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Okipuit
08-03-2012, 07:03 AM
Hey, Kupo!

The Development Team is currently making progress on combining the “Mystery Boxes” super kupower effects, which should be implemented in the next version update.
With that said, that leaves 3 spots to fill with new super kupowers! We have been looking into what kind of effects we can add, and as a result of our discussions we’ve narrowed it down to 4 possibilities:

Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

Let us know which of the above are your top 3 choices!

detlef
08-03-2012, 07:08 AM
Please do not choose #3.

Tamoa
08-03-2012, 07:09 AM
My 3 would be

1. Double the amount of CP received.
2. Shops that sell San d'Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time.
3. ???

Edited because I really don't care one bit which of the remaining 2 gets picked as the 3rd one.

Sapphire
08-03-2012, 07:13 AM
I will put ALL THREE of my votes to #2. Put in the mix three times even. zomg I need conquest points if I'm ever gonna leave Windy...

Edit: Someone did point out to me the food one is nice for skill-ups... so I guess that's throw TWO of my votes to CP. :o

Alpheus
08-03-2012, 07:15 AM
1. Double CP
2. Shop one
3.Food Duration

Komori
08-03-2012, 07:20 AM
1. 2. 4.

No one wants anymore damn crystals. They're just inventory cloggers.

Mnejing
08-03-2012, 07:21 AM
Another vote for 1, 2, and 4.

Lukikii
08-03-2012, 07:22 AM
1, 2 and 4

Muras
08-03-2012, 07:26 AM
If we have no choice but to pick only those four, then I'd definately say 1, 2, and 4. There are plenty of ways to obtain crystals, and the best ways don't even involve killing regular monsters. In fact, it'd be awesome if SE added the option of turning off crystal drops entirely when you have Signet/Sigil/Sanction active, heh.

Xilk
08-03-2012, 07:27 AM
2
4
1
in that order.

Economizer
08-03-2012, 07:32 AM
Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time


Crystals are nice but anyone who wants them can farm in Sky or from other sources of elementals.

Luvbunny
08-03-2012, 07:36 AM
1,2, and 4. Finally some good news and great ideas, a breath of fresh air after the deluge of idiotic response from the developer bros in Japan.

SpankWustler
08-03-2012, 07:46 AM
Best: 2. Double the amount of conquest points received
Second Best: 1. Double duration of food effects
Still Good: 4. Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

Tamarsamar
08-03-2012, 07:47 AM
Again, 1, 2, 4.

But just the fact that you're finally combining all three of those dumb Mystery wasted-Super-Kupower-Slots into only one power instead of four is amazing news in and of itself.

Hashmalum
08-03-2012, 07:52 AM
2, 2, 2. Oh, they can't all be the same? Then 2, 1, 4. In that order. If I may suggest a completely new power, though, I would suggest increased seal/geode drop rates.

Daniel
08-03-2012, 07:56 AM
Is there a particular reason they have to be replaced?

Mirabelle
08-03-2012, 07:58 AM
First off: either put decent stuff in the mystery boxes or eliminate them as an option. All four of your suggested kupopowers are superior to the "increase mystery box" super powers.
Secondly: 1,2 and 4 are the best choices IMO
Thirdly: the crystal option should be to make them drop of mobs that don't get xp. Or better yet make a power that drops geodes off mobs that don't give xp so I can at least hunt flame geodes in valkurm dunes.

Phafi
08-03-2012, 08:00 AM
1, 2, and 4

Trisscar
08-03-2012, 08:07 AM
Option 5: Magic skill up bonus.

Malthar
08-03-2012, 08:09 AM
How about auto-reraise?

Mirage
08-03-2012, 08:13 AM
Double food effect duration
Double conquest point gain
Shops sell nation-specific items full-time

Larger font size signifies greater importance.

At the same time, wouldn't it be cool if the conquest NPCs suddenly had some new and fancy items we could spend our CP on? That would be fabulous.

Daniel_Hatcher
08-03-2012, 08:14 AM
Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time


Crystals can be easily farmed in Sky, so please not them.

kallika
08-03-2012, 08:20 AM
How about triple the conquest points received?

Theytak
08-03-2012, 08:26 AM
Again, 1, 2, 4.

But just the fact that you're finally combining all three of those dumb Mystery wasted-Super-Kupower-Slots into only one power instead of four is amazing news in and of itself.
This. So many times over, this. 1, 2, 4.


Is there a particular reason they have to be replaced?

because getting the same power in all three slots is really, really aggravating, especially since the mystery boxes powers are absolutely useless for anything except being helpful grinding GoV chests.

Treefiddy
08-03-2012, 08:26 AM
I vote numbers 2, 1, and 4 in that order.

Tile
08-03-2012, 08:28 AM
1, 2 and 4, anyone that wants crystals can just kill elementals

Kari
08-03-2012, 08:32 AM
I don't really care for any of these powers.
Obviously 3 sucks.

I'd like to see a power that brings us more seals/geodes/etc.
2x Conquest Points means almost nothing, since you get VERY LITTLE CP from anything we do these days. This might have been nice when people actually did exp parties in normal zones. [You get so little exp/mob in page parties that the amount of CP you get is ridiculously low.]

Antanias
08-03-2012, 08:32 AM
Option 5: Regain 1TP/tic up to 50% >_>

Otherwise, 2 --> 1 --> 4

Ophannus
08-03-2012, 08:43 AM
How about replacing:

Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas


with something actually useful like:

Seals and geodes will drop more often. (Enhances the drop rate of Geodes/Seals and Avatarites so that more than one of any time can drop in a shorter timeframe. As of now only a seals share the same pool and geodes/avarites share the same pool, only from each pool can drop every 3 minutes for each party in the alliance. This was test/confirmed before. If you're solo you want see more than 1 seal or geode per 3-5min or so, no matter how many mobs you kill you can't seem to bypass this time constraint. Probably built this way to prevent massive AoE burning of seals back at low level cap, now it's simply a nuissance.

Mirage
08-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Holy moly, if "increased beastmen's seal/kindred's seal drop rate" was an option, I'd put that for all three kupowers.

Especially new players (yes, they exist) are having problems getting a significant amount of bseals/kseals these days, because leveling is so fast. I know a new guy who's gotten one job to 85 and another to 70 without leeching for a second, and still doesn't have enough seals to do a single bcnm40 to get a very needed utsu ni scroll. Increased bseal drop rate would help these a lot.

Elexia
08-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time


Crystals can be easily farmed in Sky, so please not them.

Poor new players, they have to get to sky in order to reliably farm crystals.

Mirage
08-03-2012, 08:55 AM
Idk, i'm getting crystals out the wazoo without going to sky too. You end up with tons of them from doing magian trials.

Zirael
08-03-2012, 09:01 AM
Hey, Kupo!

The Development Team is currently making progress on combining the “Mystery Boxes” super kupower effects, which should be implemented in the next version update.
With that said, that leaves 3 spots to fill with new super kupowers! We have been looking into what kind of effects we can add, and as a result of our discussions we’ve narrowed it down to 4 possibilities:

Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

Let us know which of the above are your top 3 choices!

My three top choices:


Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of Beastmen Seals and Kindred Seals dropped
Magic skillup rate +

Theytak
08-03-2012, 09:08 AM
Poor new players, they have to get to sky in order to reliably farm crystals.

Ice/Dark elementals can be found in the northlands no problem, Wind, Earth, Thunder, and Water, are absolutely everywhere; that leaves fire and light, which are both admittedly obnoxious, but there are plenty of fire crystal mobs in areas that are absolutely never under beastmen control, and light crystals are a bitch to farm whether you have sky or not.

Besides, since when was getting sky access difficult?

Edit: also yea, I'm gonna join in the voting for boosted seal/geode drop rate as an alternative, so that, doubled CP, and the Vendor one, because I'm a crafter and it's always obnoxious getting mats for GP items when conquest lets you down.

Khiinroye
08-03-2012, 09:11 AM
2. Double the amount of conquest points received
4. Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time
1. Double duration of food effects

These are the correct choices.

Edit: I'm assuming that #4 is the shop inventory that is based on conquest standing. Perhaps this could be expanded to include having all regional vendors open as well?

Kaisha
08-03-2012, 09:22 AM
1. Swift Shoes
2. Swift Shoes
3. Swift Shoes


Now we'll have four chance of being able to get quickening weekly.

Gaspee
08-03-2012, 09:24 AM
1, 2, 4. No particular order.

Meyi
08-03-2012, 09:26 AM
As a crafter I have to say number 4 is the most important to me. 1 and 2 are also great.

Sapphire
08-03-2012, 09:28 AM
Mystery boxes helps TONS when farming the rare GOV items. Hence I like that it's still there - just now for most everywhere!

Xerius
08-03-2012, 09:28 AM
If #1 stacks with Sanction and/or Sigil it would be amazing! As per I'd say #1, #2 and #4 because I don't think there's really big server wide lack of crystals and #3 just doesn't even compare to the other 3 possibilities in my opinion. I mean #3 might add 1 extra stack of crystals to the AH if that considering most people that farm crystals farm elementals which drop clusters regardless of whether they're in beastman controlled areas or not.

Demon6324236
08-03-2012, 09:30 AM
1, 2, 4. No particular order.I agree with the above

Mirage
08-03-2012, 09:39 AM
Also, considering aht urhgan also is pretty abandoned these days, I suggest that kupowers should extend to those areas as well. Another idea could be to let signet gain the same effects as sanction in addition to the effects signet already offers, and perhaps give all the signet effects to sanction as well. Maybe increased food duration from sanction shouldn't stack with the coming kupower, though. 2 hours duration from a 30 minute food item might be a bit too much.

Merton9999
08-03-2012, 09:40 AM
1,2,4 if it has to be those. My preference would be faster skill up rates and higher geode drop rates.

Daniel_Hatcher
08-03-2012, 09:47 AM
Poor new players, they have to get to sky in order to reliably farm crystals.

Seeing as how it can be done uncapped it's really nothing hard now.

Besides, we coped before. It's rare for areas to not be under control by one nation anyway.

Demon6324236
08-03-2012, 09:50 AM
If #1 stacks with Sanction and/or Sigil it would be amazing!

Wouldn't be possible. Mogpowers are only active for you under the effect of Signet, where as Sigil & Sanction do not stack with Signet, neither would this effect.

Tamarsamar
08-03-2012, 09:56 AM
Wouldn't be possible. Mogpowers are only active for you under the effect of Signet, where as Sigil & Sanction do not stack with Signet, neither would this effect.

True it wouldn't be possible, but you listed false reasons.

Only three Super Kupowers require Signet: Martial Mastery, Blood of the Vampyr, and Treasure Hound. However, Super Kupowers are only ever active in what might be considered "Signet areas." This means no Kupowers in the Near East, nor any in the past (the Explorer Moogle in Ru'Lude Gardens even gives you a strange look if you ask whether Super Kupowers go back in time).

Raini
08-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time
Double duration of food effects

Zuidar
08-03-2012, 09:59 AM
I'd pick 1 2 and 4.

Also regarding the Mystery Boxes, they should also expand it to include the region of Tu'Lia, although I don't know any reason why Tu'Lia doesn't get any benefits from the Mystery Boxes even though Caskets exist there.

Muse
08-03-2012, 10:01 AM
One, Two, and Four.

Duvemora
08-03-2012, 10:03 AM
4: Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time
1: Double duration of food effects
2: Double the amount of conquest points received

Nala
08-03-2012, 10:04 AM
i vote for NOT 3, by comparison 1, 2 and 4 are superior in my opinion.

Demon6324236
08-03-2012, 10:17 AM
True it wouldn't be possible, but you listed false reasons.

Only three Super Kupowers require Signet: Martial Mastery, Blood of the Vampyr, and Treasure Hound. However, Super Kupowers are only ever active in what might be considered "Signet areas." This means no Kupowers in the Near East, nor any in the past (the Explorer Moogle in Ru'Lude Gardens even gives you a strange look if you ask whether Super Kupowers go back in time).

And Swift Shoes, and Artisans Advantage, they don't work without Signet either so far as I know, or at least I never seem to get their effects without it : / either way the point was it wouldn't be possible to stack them sadly.

Deathbeckons
08-03-2012, 10:44 AM
2>1>3 would be my preference.

Tamarsamar
08-03-2012, 10:59 AM
And Swift Shoes, and Artisans Advantage, they don't work without Signet either so far as I know, or at least I never seem to get their effects without it : / either way the point was it wouldn't be possible to stack them sadly.

I may be mixing it up with another power, but I think I've gotten the benefit of Swift Shoes without Signet before.

ADD: And if memory serves, Artisan's Advantage requires Image Support to work, not Signet.

Kyrial
08-03-2012, 11:02 AM
1, 2, 4, in that order.

Alistaire
08-03-2012, 11:17 AM
Again, 1, 2, 4.

But just the fact that you're finally combining all three of those dumb Mystery wasted-Super-Kupower-Slots into only one power instead of four is amazing news in and of itself.

Um... Mystery boxes are pretty much the most relevant kupower at this time. After that probably the TH+1 one (which wouldn't be first due to the negligible difference between TH3 and anything higher) and then Swift Shoes.

Alistaire
08-03-2012, 11:19 AM
I'd pick 1 2 and 4.

Also regarding the Mystery Boxes, they should also expand it to include the region of Tu'Lia, although I don't know any reason why Tu'Lia doesn't get any benefits from the Mystery Boxes even though Caskets exist there.

Pretty sure this was false information. Did a Qilin run there the other day with Mystery Boxes: Frontier Lands up and there were a ton more boxes from weapons than any other time.

Sp1cyryan
08-03-2012, 12:01 PM
Personally I pick

Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time
Double duration of food effects
Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas

Being a cook I can easily say shops selling those goods full time be the best thing ever. I assume this means the regional venders you need control over, but I could be wrong. Either way the other alternative to that guess is Sandy will always have maple sugar in stock when we have the sandy boxes effect.

Behemothx
08-03-2012, 12:11 PM
1, 2, 4

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Rosina
08-03-2012, 12:16 PM
how about this as a suggestion.

why not make the first 3 kupo powers. Then add the 4th as a full time change to the game as a whole. I think that would be more benificial to the game and its players.

Trisscar
08-03-2012, 12:18 PM
Idiots, going along with Square's suggestions for this topic. Support option 5. Support faster magic skill ups.

Demon6324236
08-03-2012, 12:19 PM
Reason they are adding any at all I think is because they want to keep the same number of powers, however they could combine more powers like TH+Mystery Boxes, or they could do something else like AA+MM...

Raksha
08-03-2012, 12:19 PM
1/2/4

10char

SharMarali
08-03-2012, 01:01 PM
A few things:

First of all, among the choices given, I, too, am voting for 1, 2, and 4.

As many other players have stated, crystals are an inventory clog when you're killing enemies in fields/dungeons. Generally speaking, those who want crystals will farm them via other means. No one wants more crystals to drop off regular enemies.

Second, I am curious as to whether the proposed "double conquest points received" will stack with "Moghancement: Conquest" and the related Conquest Moghancements for specific nation-controlled regions. If so, would the doubling be applied before or after Moghancement effect?

Third, while we're talking about kupopowers, is there any possibility of getting a magic skill up kupopower or adding magic skill ups to Martial Mastery? It seems... IMBALANCED... that combat skill ups are represented in a kupopower and magic skill ups are not.

Mayoyama
08-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Is there any possibility of getting a magic skill up kupopower or adding magic skill ups to Martial Mastery? It seems... IMBALANCED... that combat skill ups are represented in a kupopower and magic skill ups are not.

^This

As for voting, 2, 1, 4 please

Iceni
08-03-2012, 01:43 PM
4. Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time
1. Double duration of food effects
5. Magic Mastery<----------------Yes, please!

4 & 1 are time and gil savers for crafters. I won't need to go to ToAU or the past to get sanction or sigil food support to make kitron macrons or rusks to last twice as long when doing mass crafting. Add "Artisan Advantage" and you get supreme crafting support!

Eric
08-03-2012, 03:13 PM
1 and 2 (|Yes, please.|)

Kraggy
08-03-2012, 03:57 PM
4, 1, 2 .

Zhronne
08-03-2012, 04:06 PM
Please do not choose #3.
^ please!


My choices would be 1, 2 and 4, they would be awesome for sure.

Kristal
08-03-2012, 04:35 PM
4 and 2 at the very least. I'm split between 1 and 3. 1 is already available from several sources on demand, while 3 could be usefull. Can't do wrong with more crystals, even if just to feed the synergy furnaces.

So I guess I go with 4,2,3 (in that order)

Unaisis
08-03-2012, 05:06 PM
All SE sees is everyone saying "OMG #3!!!!!! PLEASE #3!!!! DONT ADD ANYTHING ELSE!!! JUST 3!!!!!!"

deces
08-03-2012, 05:30 PM
As for “Mystery Boxes” super kupower effect could you please get rind of Meds in the boxes, I think all alchemists would agree.
Also please add Caskets to CoP, ToAH and WotG zones.

Tyrion
08-03-2012, 07:08 PM
2, 4, 1, in that order plz

Lynchilles
08-03-2012, 08:53 PM
1,2,4 respectively

Aarahs
08-03-2012, 09:08 PM
1, 2, 4 for here. If I want crystals, I'll farm clusters.

Mirage
08-03-2012, 10:40 PM
As for “Mystery Boxes” super kupower effect could you please get rind of Meds in the boxes, I think all alchemists would agree.
Also please add Caskets to CoP, ToAH and WotG zones.
Agreed. All nonabyssea areas should get caskets, as well as field manuals and ground tomes.

Except maybe a few places where it would be dumb to find tomes and manuals, such as in a different dimension where gray mindless monsters walk around and the ground is being eaten away by emptiness. In other CoP areas such as lufaise however, there should definitely be field manuals.

Furhtermore, field manuals should be made as awesome as grounds tomes are.

Windwhisper
08-03-2012, 10:42 PM
1. Double CP
2. Shop

last 2 i give a "damn" to be frankly

Vivivivi
08-03-2012, 10:42 PM
Conquest Points all the way!

Babekeke
08-04-2012, 12:04 AM
2 then 1 then 4.

Change #3 to be increased Geode/avatarite drops, and we'll talk.

Daniel_Hatcher
08-04-2012, 12:10 AM
Idiots, going along with Square's suggestions for this topic. Support option 5. Support faster magic skill ups.

Shouldn't be a separate option. Martial Mastery should just be updated.

Godofgods
08-04-2012, 12:14 AM
1. 2. 4.

No one wants anymore damn crystals. They're just inventory cloggers.

I love crystals!

Godofgods
08-04-2012, 12:17 AM
Let us know which of the above are your top 3 choices!

How about a system that lets vote be casted for which kupo powers a server wants. The system can start when the mog tablets break. And when the last one is found, the vote is tallied, and the highest votes are the powers we receive! And it resets every time they break, so you can always choose new ones!

Eric
08-04-2012, 12:19 AM
How about a system that lets vote be casted for which kupo powers a server wants. The system can start when the mog tablets break. And when the last one is found, the vote is tallied, and the highest votes are the powers we receive! And it resets every time they break, so you can always choose new ones!
Speaking of this, why doesn't the forum system let us incorporate user polls into the starting post of a thread? From what I can see here, the community devs aren't even able to do that sort of thing. I am pretty sure that it wouldn't be that hard to implement, considering that there are so many forums with this option.

Theytak
08-04-2012, 12:49 AM
Speaking of this, why doesn't the forum system let us incorporate user polls into the starting post of a thread? From what I can see here, the community devs aren't even able to do that sort of thing. I am pretty sure that it wouldn't be that hard to implement, considering that there are so many forums with this option.

Same reason we don't have a PM system; they don't want us expressing our opinions in any mathematically tangible form, and they don't want us to collude behind the scenes where they can't nuke our comments.

Harnao
08-04-2012, 01:15 AM
These are the three most usefull, I think.

1.Double duration of food effects
2.Double the amount of conquest points received
4.Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

Teraniku
08-04-2012, 01:50 AM
At the same time, wouldn't it be cool if the conquest NPCs suddenly had some new and fancy items we could spend our CP on? That would be fabulous.

Another thing that hasn't been touched since the level cap increase. CP was a great way to get decent gear while levelling up, without wasting your gil. Would be really nice if they added some Alternate gear to Perle, Aurore, and Teal sets buyable with CP.

Mirage
08-04-2012, 02:11 AM
Yes indeed. The entire CP attainment and purchasing system should be looked and rebalanced, in my opinion, so that new players could get decent gear progression as they leveled and gained CP. The low-level gear from the AH is in very low supply these days anyway, so it would be fine if they could get something like 33-50% of their gear from CP by leveling up normally. It could supply enough for them to replace for example their weapon, body armor, legs and feet every... 15 levels? Something like that.

Twille
08-04-2012, 02:21 AM
Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time



#4
#2
#1

Waldrich
08-04-2012, 02:33 AM
4, 2 and 1.

Shadax
08-04-2012, 03:17 AM
Add me to the 2, 4, 1 crowd

Vizardx
08-04-2012, 03:28 AM
I get the feeling they are going to pull the vote for a jug move and give us #3 <_<

Theytak
08-04-2012, 04:22 AM
I get the feeling they are going to pull the vote for a jug move and give us #3 <_<

that would be incredibly infuriating

Samosa
08-04-2012, 10:19 AM
1,2 and 4 here

Limecat
08-04-2012, 02:39 PM
4, 1, and 2, in that order.

How about one that makes guild stores stay open at all hours and every game day?

sc4500
08-04-2012, 07:54 PM
As a crafter on cooking do not allow the food to last longer and more crystal to drop the price down, but on the other side make food last longer.

Conquest points would be great, since no one does the 200exp party no more.

The city ones would be good, It can keep some the alchemy and cooking foods in check, and help some people to craft up to 70.

Psxpert2011
08-04-2012, 08:17 PM
I choose twoooooo!!! (#2) ^^

Gropitou
08-04-2012, 11:03 PM
3
1
2
4
in that order.

Mirage
08-05-2012, 12:03 AM
As a crafter on cooking do not allow the food to last longer and more crystal to drop the price down, but on the other side make food last longer.

Conquest points would be great, since no one does the 200exp party no more.

The city ones would be good, It can keep some the alchemy and cooking foods in check, and help some people to craft up to 70.

It wouldn't change things too much. First, only conquest areas would be affected. Second, it is one out several possible kupowers. It wouldn't even be active most weeks.

Krashport
08-05-2012, 01:07 AM
There is a lot of good ideas, I personally think Super Kupowers should get more lines, Cause 3 up at once is not cutting it.

Bulrogg
08-05-2012, 02:03 AM
#2
#2
#2

in that order.

Chilloa
08-05-2012, 03:34 AM
Are these being promised to us? Or are you just informing us that we'll have the possibility of three new Kupowers? And if I, along with a bunch of other NA players, vote #2, #4, and #1 in that order and a single Japanese votes #3 does that mean we'll get #3?

Apparently, these are the things that we need to be clear of.

FrankReynolds
08-05-2012, 03:43 AM
Are these being promised to us? Or are you just informing us that we'll have the possibility of three new Kupowers? And if I, along with a bunch of other NA players, vote #2, #4, and #1 in that order and a single Japanese votes #3 does that mean we'll get #3?

Apparently, these are the things that we need to be clear of.

I think its pretty obvious at this point that they don't really care about the votes so much as the reasoning behind them and that far more Japanese input get's taken into consideration. This is probably largely due to the fact that the Devs / producers can pop in and read the JP threads just like we do, where as they have to schedule time with Camate and crew (different time zones / busy schedules) to get our opinions. Which means that they probably get a very condensed version with a lot of the better parts glossed over completely.

That said, I would love 2 and 4 because I hate having to go to a different city to buy a friggin piece of garlic or something, and I never can seem to get enough CP.

I don't like the other two choices, because one hurts crafters by cutting sales to people exping / skilling in these areas in half, and the other increases drop rates on something that there are too much of already.

Komori
08-05-2012, 04:42 AM
I don't know about anyone else but I had an experience where I bought cells with CP by accident and now I'm finding it difficult to build that back up to a decent amount.

Theytak
08-05-2012, 05:09 AM
it's funny, but the double food duration won't impact the sale of any stackable food, because you can still only buy them in stacks, and the price of material won't change. It might influence the non-stacking food, because people won't want to pay as much, but honestly, crafters are a stubborn lot, and we're not going to just sell things at half price because DDs will get twice as much use out of them. We still need to make a profit, and our crafting cost won't change, so why in the world would we change our prices more than they normally fluctuate?

That, and anyone who things #3 would actually result in more crystals, it will, maybe a whole extra 2-3 stacks a day, to go on top of the already perpetually high double digit stacks of crystals made up of people selling crystals for 2-3 times what they're worth because they can get way with it. Seriously, how often do you try to buy a few stacks and of the 70+ stacks, not a single one is at the listed price, or even 1-2k over it?

Zumi
08-05-2012, 07:23 AM
I vote 3 because crystal prices are stupidly expensive.

FrankReynolds
08-05-2012, 02:51 PM
it's funny, but the double food duration won't impact the sale of any stackable food, because you can still only buy them in stacks, and the price of material won't change. It might influence the non-stacking food, because people won't want to pay as much, but honestly, crafters are a stubborn lot, and we're not going to just sell things at half price because DDs will get twice as much use out of them. We still need to make a profit, and our crafting cost won't change, so why in the world would we change our prices more than they normally fluctuate?


You really don't see how people buying stacks half as often would affect your sales? Are you sure crafting is for you?

Tsukino_Kaji
08-05-2012, 03:15 PM
Hey, Kupo!

The Development Team is currently making progress on combining the “Mystery Boxes” super kupower effects, which should be implemented in the next version update.
With that said, that leaves 3 spots to fill with new super kupowers! We have been looking into what kind of effects we can add, and as a result of our discussions we’ve narrowed it down to 4 possibilities:

Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

Let us know which of the above are your top 3 choices!Not the one involving crystals.

Tile
08-05-2012, 04:58 PM
I vote 3 because crystal prices are stupidly expensive.

in sky there are all 8 types of elementals up at all times, in all 3 of the zones.

Mirage
08-05-2012, 07:46 PM
You really don't see how people buying stacks half as often would affect your sales? Are you sure crafting is for you?

I can clearly see how buying stacks half as often would affect sales, but you gotta remember that they won't buy stacks half as often every week. With 12 kupowers, 3 active at the same time, this particular food duration will over time only be active roughly 25% of the time. And the duration still isn't further increased in non-conquest areas, where a lot of the playing is taking place. Then you also gotta remember that if you for some reason die within an hour, you lose the food effect prematurely too.

lllen
08-05-2012, 10:45 PM
1
2
3
in that order

Godofgods
08-06-2012, 12:07 AM
I like the idea of more crystals. But letting them drop in beastmen zones, and only when this kupo power is active, wont impact crystal availability at all. (and as for farming them in sky, that doesn't help new or low lvl players much) (altering it to current crystal drops are tripled, now that would be nice!)

Double food duration is nice to. But along the same lines, i don't think it will be all that effective. If we still had a majority Man pt system, then yes this would be great. But most leveling is either solo low lvl (where food not really needed), GoV parties with 18 ppl in which case food really isn't needed, or abyssea for mid-high lvl players where kupo powers don't effect players. Now their are some areas this would be nice. But as a whole, its effect would be quite limited.

Double conquest points and town item supply, i can argue against them. Even if limited, they would be helpful.

Theytak
08-07-2012, 09:52 AM
I can clearly see how buying stacks half as often would affect sales, but you gotta remember that they won't buy stacks half as often every week. With 12 kupowers, 3 active at the same time, this particular food duration will over time only be active roughly 25% of the time. And the duration still isn't further increased in non-conquest areas, where a lot of the playing is taking place. Then you also gotta remember that if you for some reason die within an hour, you lose the food effect prematurely too.

Which was basically the point I was implying. Basically, the only things double food duration would greatly influence are voidwatch, KS99/ground Kings (if doing more than 1), and skilling up. Sky, Sea, Limbus, Dynamis, all of ToAU (Einherjar, Salvage, Assault, Nyzul, Neo-Nyzul), all of WotG (Walk of Echoes, MMM, the upcoming Meeble Burrows (which takes place in one of the WotG dungeons, like MMM)), Abyssea, Legion, and Provenance are all excluded from super kupowers. People use food for a lot more than just voidwatch, so while it might slow down sales a bit, it won't be huge. Especially since most of the buyers aren't intending to use the entire stack of food in a single sitting every single time. Some will, sure, but most people don't have the patience to burn the same thing for 6 hours. And as mentioned, that also assumes they don't die, which negates the increased duration regardless.

Kristal
08-07-2012, 07:56 PM
Change #3 to be increased Geode/avatarite drops, and we'll talk.

That.. is actually a pretty sweet option. It would totally rock the vote, lol.

Tsukino_Kaji
08-08-2012, 08:54 AM
Change #3 to be increased Geode/avatarite drops, and we'll talk.I would like add add this as a write in vote. Please everyone else add it in as a write in vote as well.

Okipuit
08-10-2012, 07:58 AM
Good evening!

Thank you for placing your votes on the new Super Kupowers!
Your first set of votes were tallied up last Monday morning, so let's take a look at what we have here:

<table width="580" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" class="ta01"><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="th01"><td width="10%" align="center" class="th01" bgcolor="#a8d0d7">No.</td><td width="75%" align="center" class="th01" bgcolor="#a8d0d7">Super Kupower</td><td width="15%" align="center" class="th01" bgcolor="#a8d0d7">Votes</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">1</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Double duration of food effects</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3">59</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">2</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Double the amount of conquest points received</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb">63</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">3</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3" align="left">Crystals will be dropped in beastmen controlled areas</td><td bgcolor="#eaf2f3">7</td></tr><tr valign="middle" align="center" class="td01"><td bgcolor="#c6e9ef">4</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb" align="left">Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time</td><td bgcolor="#f5fafb">55</td></tr></table>
Seems like #3 was not too popular. /comfort crystals
Option #2 was the most popular but the number of votes compared to the other two candidates was not a huge difference.

We will continue to survey your votes throughout the week and all region's feedback will weigh in on our moogles' final kupo'rmation. Ahem... confirmation.

We continue to look forward to your feedback!

Tptn937
08-10-2012, 09:33 AM
#1, #2 in that order.

Byrth
08-10-2012, 09:41 AM
2, 1, and 4 in that order. I don't know why you're still collecting data for this. If you were looking for 3 results than the community's preference is obvious.

Theytak
08-10-2012, 09:49 AM
2, 1, and 4 in that order. I don't know why you're still collecting data for this. If you were looking for 3 results than the community's preference is obvious.

The fact that they're still looking for votes implies that one of the other regions is voting for 3 over the other too, and god help us if it's the JPs. Someone quickly, Rosetta Stone Japanese, German, and French, and make sure they're not doing something weird.

edit:
Looks like the JPs (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/14328-%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AB%E5%AF%BE%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E6%84%8F%E8%A6%8B%E3%80%81%E8%A6%81%E6%9C%9B?p=350336#post350336) seem to be agreeing with us, and the Germans only got one response. The French don't seem to have even gotten a thread about it.

That said, it was rather amusing to skim through the JP thread and, while not being able to read it, still make out a very obvious pattern of 1s, 2s, and 4s :D

Ophannus
08-10-2012, 10:00 AM
#4 is winning with JP. 1+2 are tied.

Mirage
08-10-2012, 10:16 AM
All is well in the world, then.

noirin
08-10-2012, 11:08 AM
i still say 1,2 and 4. i have enough access to crystals, thanks.

Fistandantilus
08-10-2012, 11:29 AM
2
3
4

in that order

Trisscar
08-10-2012, 12:10 PM
Magic skill ups, or bust.

Ryuujin
08-10-2012, 02:56 PM
why not a kupopower that increases crafting skill gain rate

Babekeke
08-10-2012, 03:08 PM
Your first set of votes were tallied up last Monday morning, so let's take a look at what we have here:

(apparently I can't quote the table)

Can we see the results from the other nations too please? Would be horrible for us to have it sprung on us at the last minute like it was with the new BST pet.

Duvemora
08-10-2012, 03:10 PM
2 then 1 then 4.

Change #3 to be increased Geode/avatarite drops, and we'll talk.

I like the sound of that.

sluggo
08-10-2012, 03:14 PM
2
1
4

in that order

Windwhisper
08-10-2012, 04:45 PM
The fact that they're still looking for votes implies that one of the other regions is voting for 3 over the other too, and god help us if it's the JPs. Someone quickly, Rosetta Stone Japanese, German, and French, and make sure they're not doing something weird.

edit:
Looks like the JPs (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/14328-%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AB%E5%AF%BE%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E6%84%8F%E8%A6%8B%E3%80%81%E8%A6%81%E6%9C%9B?p=350336#post350336) seem to be agreeing with us, and the Germans only got one response. The French don't seem to have even gotten a thread about it.

That said, it was rather amusing to skim through the JP thread and, while not being able to read it, still make out a very obvious pattern of 1s, 2s, and 4s :D

The germans prefer to reply in the english section like me =P

Fistandantilus
08-10-2012, 05:23 PM
(apparently I can't quote the table)

Can we see the results from the other nations too please? Would be horrible for us to have it sprung on us at the last minute like it was with the new BST pet.

Yes please

Delvish
08-10-2012, 08:31 PM
Change #3 to be increased Geode/avatarite drops
1
2

In that order.

Glamdring
08-11-2012, 07:58 AM
4, 1, 2 in that order. (I go to beastman controlled areas to AVOID crystal clutter, if I need crystals 20 minutes in sky has me coverred)

Unaisis
08-11-2012, 02:26 PM
Glad to see that JP Votes are the same as ours~ since its their votes that matter XD

Trisscar
08-11-2012, 03:44 PM
Good evening!

Thank you for placing your votes on the new Super Kupowers!
Your first set of votes were tallied up last Monday morning, so let's take a look at what we have here:

*snip*

Seems like #3 was not too popular. /comfort crystals
Option #2 was the most popular but the number of votes compared to the other two candidates was not a huge difference.

We will continue to survey your votes throughout the week and all region's feedback will weigh in on our moogles' final kupo'rmation. Ahem... confirmation.

We continue to look forward to your feedback!

Hey, way to ignore magic skill up support. Again.

Xantavia
08-11-2012, 04:27 PM
(apparently I can't quote the table)

Can we see the results from the other nations too please? Would be horrible for us to have it sprung on us at the last minute like it was with the new BST pet.
Wasn't it Faithful Falcor that BST's got instead of a scorpion? Yeah, I can see why people are still upset with that outcome.

Eric
08-11-2012, 07:06 PM
(apparently I can't quote the table)

Can we see the results from the other nations too please? Would be horrible for us to have it sprung on us at the last minute like it was with the new BST pet.

The third post made after Okipuit's has the information that you're looking for.


The fact that they're still looking for votes implies that one of the other regions is voting for 3 over the other too, and god help us if it's the JPs. Someone quickly, Rosetta Stone Japanese, German, and French, and make sure they're not doing something weird.

edit:
Looks like the JPs (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/14328-%E3%83%8F%E3%83%83%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AB%E5%AF%BE%E3%81%99%E3%82%8B%E6%84%8F%E8%A6%8B%E3%80%81%E8%A6%81%E6%9C%9B?p=350336#post350336) seem to be agreeing with us, and the Germans only got one response. The French don't seem to have even gotten a thread about it.

That said, it was rather amusing to skim through the JP thread and, while not being able to read it, still make out a very obvious pattern of 1s, 2s, and 4s :D

0nionKn1ght
08-11-2012, 10:41 PM
Double the amount of conquest points received
Double the amount of conquest points received
Double duration of food effects



Always thought that one of the Super Kupopowers should have been increased spell potency, or activation of port points in that zone, allowing you to travel quickly across larger places like Meriphataud Mountains, directly to key locations like the entrance to Castle Oztroja, by zoning into the mountains, a moogle pops up and asks where you want to go sightseeing.



Hey, way to ignore magic skill up support. Again.


Do you ever stop complaining?

Seha
08-13-2012, 09:18 PM
1
4
2

_____________________________________________________________

Archahngel
08-14-2012, 12:08 PM
1,2, and 4. :)

Raka
08-14-2012, 02:44 PM
Who votes for Crystals? Rofl Farm Elementals if you're that concerned about Crystals dropping in Beastmen Controlled areas, mates. XD

Okipuit
08-17-2012, 06:52 AM
Hello and thank you for submitting your votes!

After reviewing all each region’s votes, it has been decided that the following 3 Super Kupowers will be added:

Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

As long as everything goes smoothly, these should be implemented in the next version update along with the consolidation of the mystery box effects.

Komori
08-17-2012, 07:05 AM
Yeeeees. Thank you, was so worried lolcrystals would make it in.

Nala
08-17-2012, 09:14 AM
wow for probably the first time in a long while it seems like the dev team is actually listening... insert meme: "not sure if dev team is listening or am just being optimistic"

Demon6324236
08-17-2012, 09:27 AM
wow for probably the first time in a long while it seems like the dev team is actually listening... insert meme: "not sure if dev team is listening or am just being optimistic"

Not sure if its the new producer but with how he seems, I would like to think so, and if thats the case, I like this guy already! :D

SpankWustler
08-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Hello and thank you for submitting your votes!

After reviewing all each region’s votes, it has been decided that the following 3 Super Kupowers will be added:

Double duration of food effects
Double the amount of conquest points received
Shops that sell San d’Oria/Bastok/Windurst specific items will sell them full-time

As long as everything goes smoothly, these should be implemented in the next version update along with the consolidation of the mystery box effects.

Happy normal-sized tortoise...

http://split2personality.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/smiling-turtle.jpg

...is happy!

Kristal
08-17-2012, 11:40 PM
Aww.. now I have to walk all the way to sky for my crystals...

Worldwise
08-21-2012, 08:32 AM
My choices would be 1, 2 and 4

Worldwise
08-21-2012, 08:36 AM
There should be an expansion for Ease of exploration, like going to Jeuno or even Kazam, Norg, Rabao, Tavnazia safehold, Al Zabi,and Nashmau with expansion pack use!

Theytak
08-21-2012, 08:56 AM
Aww.. now I have to walk all the way to sky for my crystals...

Can farm a stack of clusters in sky in a relatively short period of time, far, far less than suddenly having random crystal drops in a few extra areas.

/totallymissesthejoke

Mirage
08-21-2012, 10:18 AM
Aww.. now I have to walk all the way to sky for my crystals...

Hey that's pretty clever!