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Anapingofness
07-27-2012, 04:36 AM
Dear Dev Team... I've bone to pick with you.

So....

I've noticed that Mumor's back... yet again.

I just wanna know why?
I want to know who was it that thought that Mumor of all things was a good event?
I wanna know why she keeps coming back?

You know what else? I'm appalled that she'd be placed in the same breath with some of the leading ladies of Vana 'diel. On what planet does Mumor hold a light to Lion, Prishe, Aphmau, Lilisette?

The biggest draw to the Heroines' Holdfast is the inevitable promise that we will finally get to beat the living crap out of Mumor. I ask you, is that what you want for the old gal? I mean, she's done...so... much...

....

My dear Dev team... put an end to this nonsense.
Retire Mumor once and for all and give us a real Summerfest event.

Thanks~

cidbahamut
07-27-2012, 04:43 AM
Agreed. Mumor is a terrible excuse for an event.

Re-using the event ad nauseam is just lazy, especially since it has long since worn out its welcome.

Reiterpallasch
07-27-2012, 04:52 AM
She has more boob jiggle this year. That's what we all wanted right?

Dragoy
07-27-2012, 05:15 AM
Heh, funny. ^^

But yeah, I never really saw any appeal to it. That is to say, I can't say it's a good event, but I do still appreciate the effort of those working on it. However, they could do better, I'm sure.

Looking at the Heroines' battlefield, I also feel the order is a 'bit' off. For one, Lion always seemed the most strong to me, though that might be just because she seems the most mature, perhaps? Either way, it would more than likely be a sort of chronological order in that regard. I have to admit, I kind of like the idea of, as you put it, “the inevitable promise that we will finally get to beat the living crap out of Mumor”.

Not that I really have the wants for that!

Again though, I do appreciate it all, but it's definitely not how I would make the event(s) be.

Camiie
07-27-2012, 06:43 AM
I'm ashamed to say I never got the hang of her event. For some reason I always seem to do much worse at mini-games than whatever game they're contained within. It's probably horribly simple for everyone but me.

Dragoy
07-27-2012, 06:51 AM
I always did wish the mini-games were more of the quality the old FINAL FANTASY titles had (up to IX or so). The ones in XI always feel a bit 'stiff', or something I can't quite put my finger on it.

What comes to the Mumor itself, I always just made a macro for each dance. That's all you really need, with a bit of reaction time to do it soon enough. It's probably the least favourite of mine even though many others require you to run about a lot, but I do what I must for the items cause I have to have them for some reason...

Tamarsamar
07-27-2012, 07:10 AM
Hey screw you guys, I like Mumor. ;_;

Dragoy
07-27-2012, 07:16 AM
Tamarsamar,

That's fine!

I never said I dislike her, either. :]
(If I did, I didn't really mean it!)

Nala
07-27-2012, 07:52 AM
Eh save for post abyssea when a few of the event weapons became actually useful i've never had an interest in the in game events, i have enough storage issues as it is, guess i'm more of a pragmatic/practical use kind of person, i try not to hold onto items of no value/practical use or waste my time in the acquisition there of.

Dragoy
07-27-2012, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I sort of stopped caring when my Mog Safe had less than 20 spaces for anything other than furniture... And I still need more!

(That is to say, stopped caring for the space they take.)

Luvbunny
07-27-2012, 12:51 PM
These so called seasonal mini events are created and repeated with very little effort as a cheap time sink to provide a variety of cheap time sink for whatever crappy items they are giving you, nothing but a useless diversion which a lot of people find it fun, since not all of them are into gears and weapons collection and just there for the social aspect of the game and many myriad of useless time sink SE has devised. Hey variety and options are the spice of life!!

oliveira
07-27-2012, 01:34 PM
Hey variety and options are the spice of life!!
lol you could just post that last line and your point would be made across in a better manner. :)

Anyway, the point of the Mumor event is that Mumor is an actress entertaining kids ala "tokusatsu" (heroes for kids) which is popular in Japan. Usually there are acted "tokusatsu" shows with actors on these summer festivals.

Meiisein
07-27-2012, 03:03 PM
The environmental changes in the background to the seasonal events always interested me more. I'd be quite happy to have seasonal weather changes added to more zones.

Come to think of it the last time I enjoyed an event proper was Frightfest. I found it quite fun to be dropped to low level and sent to a random zone.

Anapingofness
07-27-2012, 06:31 PM
lol you could just post that last line and your point would be made across in a better manner. :)

Anyway, the point of the Mumor event is that Mumor is an actress entertaining kids ala "tokusatsu" (heroes for kids) which is popular in Japan. Usually there are acted "tokusatsu" shows with actors on these summer festivals.

While I have nothing personal against the cultural aspect behind Mumor and I understand how this could be popular for children when put in an actual stage + actors environment. It doesn't mean that it is a good implementation as a game mechanic or event for that matter.

That being said, the event is downright boring and it really makes SE look lazy.

I don't want to be a Mumor groupie or a fan cheering her on- that is not fun in the least.

I'm sure there are other cultural aspects of summer festivals that SE could introduce to FFXI besides Mumor/Tokusatsu.

Camiie
07-27-2012, 08:12 PM
If they really wanted to do something... cool?... with Mumor they could take the tokusatsu bit a step further and actually have us participate in the show. Have it be an actual battle where we get to ham it up with emotes and calling our attacks. Not...not that I actually want to do things like that... /blush

Anyway the point would shift from cheering on Mumor to playing the role of an ally of hers to appease a crowd of NPCs.

Infidi
07-27-2012, 08:14 PM
She has more boob jiggle this year. That's what we all wanted right?
That's only when they upgrade to DirectX 10 :P.

Keyln
07-28-2012, 05:45 AM
I like the Mumor event.

Then again, I like Pretty Cure too...

Eric
07-28-2012, 08:11 AM
I like Mumor! I definitely appreciate her more now after fighting her in Heroine's Holdfast. She's deadlier than she looks. :x

Edyth
07-28-2012, 01:00 PM
I like how Mumor has an ongoing story. I actually check out the Mumor events every year.

Rosina
07-28-2012, 07:20 PM
I like it... I wish the states did these types of shows.. but ppl so lazy with it. I always do this event. Plus its a peek at how summeris spent in japan. I played a ton of mmo, and most their holiday stuff is crap.... ffxi, wow and ffxiv only 1 I see put in any effort. (ffxiv after yoshi joined)

Ronin
07-28-2012, 11:10 PM
I love all FFXI events. They should be a little more grand though. The last one had two people in each city walking around and that was it. I personally want a grand worldwide themed celebration for each event.

Anapingofness
07-29-2012, 12:09 AM
I wish the states did these types of shows.(ffxiv after yoshi joined)

There are places that do something like this in the states. It's not the same thing exactly, mind you, but there are things for children at amusement parks, local and state faires, as well as ren faires. Not to mention various community events. It all depends on where you live, in the end.

In any case, regardless of the type of event it is in real life it translates poorly into a video game. It's fine if they want to make an event based off of something like this but to make the player be a Mumor groupie where all you do is cheer on? Really?

The event wasn't exactly welcomed when it first came out. The year after people en mass were already kind of tired of it and by the third year well, it became "Really? This again? Lame SE... really, really lame and lazy."

The event is long due for a revamp. It's been done to death by now.

Keep in mind, I'd be saying something similar even if it wasn't Mumor we were talking about.
As I mentioned before, there is a lot of culture that SE can incorporate into this game as far as Summer Festivals in Japan are concerned. They don't have to fixate on Mumor only.

Tamarsamar
07-29-2012, 06:57 AM
If anything, Mumor is easily the least tired out holiday event. She has a freaking contiguous story arc, for crying out loud! That's a lot more than I could say for something like, say, Celestial Nights, where you can't really tell whether or not it's the exact same dang people falling for each other during their performances time and again.

The fact that the Sunbreeze Festival also has several other mini-games to go with it arguably makes it the only holiday event worth keeping any more, perhaps alongside Starlight Celebration and maybe the Harvest Festival.

Theytak
07-29-2012, 08:02 AM
I still want blitz buffalo back. This new replacement we got just isn't the same. Everyone running around naked at level 1 punching an angry buffalo that can knock you from ronfaure to qufim with no effort was awesome. Herding skittish buffalo around chigoes is not awesome.

Rosina
07-29-2012, 08:50 AM
There alot of events I want bacl. I loved buffilo blitz ffxi version of the running of the bulls. Also Mumor is episode esk. each year they progress her story. Its supposed to be atypical magical girl stage show. I used to watch sailor moon daily so seeing this return yearly is fun for me. I been here since 2004 this event used to run MUCH longer. And all we had was gold fish scooping. They added the mini games after a few years. Then mumor around wings after the dance emotes got added. I also see ppl do mumor alot even a few days into it. I personally think ppl just too cynical. They want just to solo end game with/For LEET gear. Not big on social events. If anything update the fireworks and make them fancy like bomb shapes etc. FFxiv had egg shaped ones for easter.

Rosina
07-29-2012, 09:03 AM
Also ana I did mention states doing them its just lazily done. The actors used in the ones I seen make it obvious they RATHER do something else. Heck i seen japanese high school students put on better stage shows with more spirit then actors do at a semi local theme park. Its like ppl forgot what the point is. Point of mumor is to pump you up for the various mini games there are and most r fun. I like the rifle shooting. If you wanna talk of bad event. First DCUO holidays were LATE we had valantines day a week after the fact and it was 2 versions of aphrodity vs each other. ST patty day event took place around easter. And all of these were one time rewards.. Se rewards you for doing there event a few times.

Anapingofness
07-29-2012, 12:33 PM
Se rewards you for doing there event a few times.

SE's rewarding me for doing their event's a few times?

Really?

On what planet? This year's swimming suits are a bad reskin of last years. Would it have killed them to give us new swimming suits? Lately their rewards have been reskins of existing outfits. Yeah, some reward.

The event is old. Yes they "update" her storyline but it doesn't change the fact that I'm on the side lines instead of being in there with the action itself. I feel more compassion and connection with the Star Onions and I've done their quests years ago.

Again, let me point out that I've nothing against the magical girl types or the shows they spawn. I've grown up with stuff like Sailor Moon and Card Captor Sakura, much like many people on these forums.

Also, I'm sorry you've seen sloppy versions of kids shows but the ones that I've seen were not sloppy at all. So don't assume it's just lazily done just because it's stateside. Japan isn't some sort of heaven your know and their people aren't perfect. They have people who don't put full effort in to their work as well because at the end of the day the people doing those shows are just people and they can make mistakes too. They can also have a bad day or lose motivation or just plain not want to do it.

I don't care that the even itself is Mumor the Magical Girl or Mayakov the Magical Dancer who is on his quest from rags to riches as he goes on his journey to create the best dance troupe, Troupe Mayakov!
.... It's the bloody game mechanic.

You know the difference between Mumor and Prishe?
I was up there on the front lines with Prishe and since I was right up there with her, I could see her ups and downs. I could commiserate. The same is with Lilisette or Aphmau. When I thought Lion was done for, I was genuinely sad.

I was not on the side lines cheering either of them.

If they were so serious about this Mumor event then perhaps they shouldn't be so lazy about it. I'm sorry, but /cheer to Mumor is not an acceptable event even if she has a continuing storyline.

As for people doing it? Yeah, I see people doing it. Usually the first day it comes out but it's never a lot, mainly because it's a boring event. Plus, because SE is dumb they make it difficult to do events when you can't really store the event gear right after you get it. So it's not so much people wanting the "omfgwtfbbql337g34r!!!11111oneoneoneone" as it is the aforementioned reasons.

Seriously, even you can't tell me that /cheering Mumor is a good game mechanic with a straight face and anyone who does is full of it.

SE didn't put in an ounce of effort when they created Mumor. They also need to update their remaining events since they seem to approach this game with so much minimal effort- but that's not what we're talking about here.
So, tell me who is the lazy one again?

TL;DR version:
Old event is old. A continuous storyline does not equal a good event when the event itself is empty and has you going through the same motions over and over.

Rosina
07-29-2012, 03:49 PM
Ana you raging much??? Thing u need to cool ur jets a bit. Its a mini game, that happens once a year. And the mumor is a RECENT addition. Only going on 4 years. Gold fish scooping is WAY older and the yukata is re skined, starligh only had 1 upgrade and harvest fest got 2. Yet you only complain on mumor... If u gonna complain... do so for every holiday event. Also.. can't really compare a 5 part quest line with cs and link to the windy story line to a 10 min mini game...... Again overly cynical. Also most holiday events in other mmo give u 1 reward. MEANING. said event isn't repeatable for other prizes. Se on the other hand gives various rewards from holiday themed fireworks/ food to 2 versions of event gear. This game is old just fyi... ofc the events are old.. o btw for the ppl who don't do event cuz of space there is event storage npc....

Rosina
07-29-2012, 03:52 PM
O btw too add..... you just dislike the character... Cuz every event is the same every year... but u only complaint is mumor....

oliveira
07-29-2012, 11:39 PM
O btw too add..... you just dislike the character... Cuz every event is the same every year... but u only complaint is mumor....

Haters... >_>

On the other thread the galka BLU wished people playing this game on PS2 go to hell, placed right by the bunch who make noises on movie theaters ... -_-; (Oy, I wonder what he thinks of people who spoil movie stories on Internet forums lol)

What is up with the people here ?

Anapingofness
07-30-2012, 01:18 AM
O btw too add..... you just dislike the character... Cuz every event is the same every year... but u only complaint is mumor....

Well... you're only half right about me disliking Mumor... but I guess you could call it that?

Contrary to what you may think or believe, I am not raging and I'm not nearly as upset as you think I am. I simply happen to feel strongly about this subject. I'm not trying to make excuses for myself.

I'll be perfectly straight with you Rosina. Am I happy with the Mumor event? No, I'm not. But I also don't look at it through rose colored glasses. The idea behind Mumor is cute to say the least but its execution is where it fails spectacularly. That is where my problem lies, not with Mumor herself.

The reason I'm not talking about the other events is simple and it isn't because I prefer them over Mumor. The reason I'm talking about Mumor right now is because that is the event in question and it's happening right now. Do I think that the rest of the seasonal events need to be changed and improved?

Yes. A thousand times yes! I can't stress that enough.

Also, you mention that this game is old. Well, yes. 10 years is a long time by any standard. However that is not an excuse that SE can use since there are quite a bit of people still playing this game. They should be giving us better events or at least events that are better thought out.

On topic of storage NPC- I am well ware of the storage NPC and Moogle. However, SE has a bad habit of not letting you store event gear immediately. When I did xmas event last year I couldn't store pants for the longest time. It becomes bothersome. D=

Lastly, do you want to know how I know that Mumor and the other events are out of favor by most of the FFXI community?

Go search FFXI wiki on a walk-through from one of the seasonal events? You'll find dated walkthroughs because nobody bothers to update them. Why should they? They're just rehashes of old events.

I've yet to see someone make a thread or express in game that they're happy to see Mumor back (or other events for that matter). The typical response that I see is "Meh, Mumor again?".

So, instead of just saying that or complaining to my friends about Mumor, I decided to let the dev's know my stance on it. Apparently, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 11:34 AM
@ ana
I suggest you revamp your topic then, your letting your dislike for this mini game prob alot of ppl find fun cloud what you really should be saying. I can tell you dislike hee. Bit the mini game is set up to go with her lore. Its a mimic mini game. As here fans we need to mimic her moves to give her power. Similar to peter pan where peter asks the kids to clap their hands to save his fairy. I will like to say that people need to lay off the "rise colored glasses" saying as at this point where it no long means what it does. I do not do or say anything with rose colored glasses. But i'm not an overly cynical nay sayer who feel the need to comaplain about everything i dislike. I love doing this mini game. I do get a sense of being a fan and helping her beat the evil baddy. I think this is do to my child like carefree spirit. I'm not the type to spoil the magic behind everything. But here is my point. Sunbreeze was changed ALOT since the games launched. It used to ONLY have gold fish scooping.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 11:36 AM
Haters... >_>

On the other thread the galka BLU wished people playing this game on PS2 go to hell, placed right by the bunch who make noises on movie theaters ... -_-; (Oy, I wonder what he thinks of people who spoil movie stories on Internet forums lol)

What is up with the people here ?

ppl on this forum are cynical people with elitist mindsets that act like kiddies in daycare. They feel they are entitled to anything and everything.

Shadowsong
07-31-2012, 12:42 PM
@ ana
I suggest you revamp your topic then, your letting your dislike for this mini game prob alot of ppl find fun cloud what you really should be saying. I can tell you dislike hee. Bit the mini game is set up to go with her lore. Its a mimic mini game. As here fans we need to mimic her moves to give her power. Similar to peter pan where peter asks the kids to clap their hands to save his fairy. I will like to say that people need to lay off the "rise colored glasses" saying as at this point where it no long means what it does. I do not do or say anything with rose colored glasses. But i'm not an overly cynical nay sayer who feel the need to comaplain about everything i dislike. I love doing this mini game. I do get a sense of being a fan and helping her beat the evil baddy. I think this is do to my child like carefree spirit. I'm not the type to spoil the magic behind everything. But here is my point. Sunbreeze was changed ALOT since the games launched. It used to ONLY have gold fish scooping.

I literally cannot even read this post. How many times do people need to berate you before you spellcheck. Half of people dont even read your posts, why do you make it so hard for the people who actually still give you a chance?

Modoru
07-31-2012, 03:26 PM
ppl on this forum are cynical people with elitist mindsets that act like kiddies in daycare. They feel they are entitled to anything and everything.

If gear swapping makes me a cynical elitist, then okay. C'est la vie.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 03:26 PM
I literally cannot even read this post. How many times do people need to berate you before you spellcheck. Half of people dont even read your posts, why do you make it so hard for the people who actually still give you a chance?

you know there was no reason to say that. And you know why I lack use of spell checker. You also know why I need it in the first place. Lastly there is no excuse or reason to berate someone on grammar and typing on a internet forum for a video game. People have different styles of writing.
But instead of the insults point out the spelling, or where you have issues understanding it. I'm wondering if it's really my typing or if your picking on me for the sake of such. Cuz realistically outside my spelling errors only people i've had mock my typing is the ffxi/ffxiv forum. The other Mud, MMo, forums i've been to never had such issues.

sorry for off topic. But oli this is what I'm talking about.

Modoru
07-31-2012, 03:35 PM
you know there was no reason to say that. And you know why I lack use of spell checker. You also know why I need it in the first place.

Lastly there is no excuse or reason to berate someone on grammar and typing on a internet forum for a video game. People have different styles of writing.
But instead of the insults point out the spelling, or where you have issues understanding it.

For the first part: ADD is no excuse, I've met many people with ADD with far superior typing skills [both in terms of spelling and grammar.]

For the second part: I'm pretty sure the English language, and any language has a strict set of rules deemed [save redundancy] grammar, semantics, spelling, structure, etc. Even with slang, there's still certain limits to what you do and don't type. As to where she might have been confused, it's mostly because your post is a block of text and has no real spacing to read with more clarity.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 03:37 PM
oh my god........ *slams head on desks* sorry Ana my forum stalkers gonna ruin this thread on you.

By cynical elitist i mean people who read wiki like the bible and live my its teachings as word of god... that its it isn't on wiki its not worth it then shove said info down everyone throats insulting them if they choose to not read it. If you do not fall into this catagory then I'm not talking about you.

But Ana just made a good point on why I dislike wiki... If it isn't on wiki its not worth doing. If its out of date on wiki its not worth doing. The wiki is a free forum user run website. Not too many people are willing to do that, Most just want to play games. Infact most of wiki is outdated. I was able to get on a few types of wiki on my pc which decided to work cuz I was looking up a movie.

No mmo on wiki will have up to date seasonal events. They only last 2 weeks and only happen once a year. So to most, people will find it a waste to update it reguardless if new rewards are added or not.

Modoru
07-31-2012, 03:44 PM
Actually, wiki is out of date because the owners moved to Gamer's Escape, and even then it's pretty meh. The seasonal events were updated yearly, back then. But even now, there's no reason to update the wikis on those events because the changes are severely limited and don't really bring anything "new" to the table anyway? So how does an outdated wiki mean anything when the quests/events haven't changed?

EDIT: Also, many people "treat the wiki like the bible" explicitly *because* it is written by other users. It is based off of experiences of others and the information they have gathered. Sure, it's somewhat outdated [however, BG wiki is not, and the community is usually pretty precise as far as efficient builds and such go] but it still holds much relevance, so why would you go against the wiki? You can pretty much do every quest with the details they give you.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 03:47 PM
@ Modoru

Honestly please stop saying "i know people with ADD..." Here is why.... 1) ADD effects people differently no 2 people will have the same issues. 2) ADD now a days is HEAVELY misdiganosed. I know ppl who got told they hadd ADD when it was infact something else entirely.

Second I never used it as an excuse. That was the assumption you guys have. As is the ability to use a form of spell checker. You may not believe this is true, but while in school w/o help. I infact got A's and B's for my writing. B's only due to my penminship. If I had a means to use spell checker, i would use it. If I had a grammar checker I would use. But on the Ps3 there are no such tools. As for block of text... I'm sure you guys read books... That is basic form of text set up any book. Also, with just the text I hit the limit the ps3 does infact have when it comes typing.

At some point you guys need to be understanding as well. And not solely put blame on me.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 03:49 PM
Actually, wiki is out of date because the owners moved to Gamer's Escape, and even then it's pretty meh. The seasonal events were updated yearly, back then. But even now, there's no reason to update the wikis on those events because the changes are severely limited and don't really bring anything "new" to the table anyway? So how does an outdated wiki mean anything when the quests/events haven't changed?

EDIT: Also, many people "treat the wiki like the bible" explicitly *because* it is written by other users. It is based off of experiences of others and the information they have gathered. Sure, it's somewhat outdated [however, BG wiki is not, and the community is usually pretty precise as far as efficient builds and such go] but it still holds much relevance, so why would you go against the wiki? You can pretty much do every quest with the details they give you.

even though some of the plot line for said event did change... But you not need wiki for seasonal events >.>;;

Modoru
07-31-2012, 03:54 PM
@ Modoru

Honestly please stop saying "i know people with ADD..." Here is why.... 1) ADD effects people differently no 2 people will have the same issues. 2) ADD now a days is HEAVELY misdiganosed. I know ppl who got told they hadd ADD when it was infact something else entirely.
Maybe so, but those cases in severity would imply you wouldn't even BE here.

Second I never used it as an excuse.
Yes! Yes you have! Multiple times! You did it last year, too!


As is the ability to use a form of spell checker. I never said you had one, but even then, you should be able to re-read what you type and think "oh, I misspelled this word, I should fix it".

You may not believe this is true, but while in school w/o help. I infact got A's and B's for my writing. B's only due to my penminship. If I had a means to use spell checker, i would use it. If I had a grammar checker I would use. But on the Ps3 there are no such tools. As for block of text... I'm sure you guys read books... That is basic form of text set up any book. Also, with just the text I hit the limit the ps3 does infact have when it comes typing.
I am not doubting your academic career, nor do I really care. Books have blocks of text, yes, but they are separated into paragraphs where necessary -- and in the case of essays or informative writings, they're also divided into sections with bullets and the like.


At some point you guys need to be understanding as well. And not solely put blame on me.
I tried being understanding with you, and I have not followed every single post of yours, but you must admit that you, too, do attack others and make certain claims that aren't necessarily true. I don't have a problem with you, I just have a problem with the way you make yourself a victim.

Specifically, I don't agree with the way some people don't really try to explain themselves when they refer to you -- as it stops being relevant and just becomes personal.

TL;DR: Mumor was a boring event and we need something more interesting.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 03:58 PM
If you need wiki to do a season event that pretty weird. The moogle infact explains exaxtly what to do. And SE tells you the reward stuff on the event page before you log in. Why update a wiki when SE does it for them.

But honestly guys...

How much of you guy are actually trying to be on topic? And how much are posting for the pleasure to further berate me? Think shadowsong pretty much summed up what I've been trying to stop happening.

Insulting a person with an OT remark is pretty silly. More so when they know the reasoning behind it. At somepoint people just need to leave me alone with it. I'm not the big troll ppl assume am. I am being honest in what I have, how it effects me, and what I use to post on and the reason for it. Just people want to see it they way they want to. I do find it hilarious everyone "JUST HAPPENS" to know someone with ADD... and how they "just happen" to not have the issues I have. I'd like to meet these "people" as I'm the only one I know out of everyone I know who has ADD.

Modoru
07-31-2012, 04:02 PM
Speaking honestly, ADD isn't exactly rare nowadays. My best friend has ADHD, one of my friends in uni has ADD and she struggles tremendously with studies, but we work her through it. If you don't know anyone with it, you may have not really expanded your connections, but you will find that it's not as rare as you make it seem. s:

TL;DR On another note, Fish scooping sucked for me back when I was starting out. Those damn goldfish kept breaking my scooper. >:l

Eric
07-31-2012, 04:05 PM
I'd like to meet these "people" as I'm the only one I know out of everyone I know who has ADD.
Jesus Christ. That's pathetic, Rosina.

Please don't use ADD as an excuse for the way you carry yourself on this forum. It's embarrassing on my behalf to see you flaunt it around the way you do in an attempt to protect yourself. It makes other people with ADD look bad.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're not special. You're not the only person on this forum with ADD, but you don't see anyone else claiming that it's the cause for their stupid posts.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 04:15 PM
@ Mo

I never said it was rare. But it is hareditary(sp?) (pass on from chi;d and parent) ADD effects people different. You also shpuld realise that people insulted my typing well before I ever mentioned it... and only AFTER i said I do not do a few things. I only tried to explain that I have ADD, tried to explain how it effects me. And instead of being grown ups and cutting a lil slack, they continue to berate me. If you met me in person, or at least talk to me in game you would realise I'm not a bad person. Just misunderstood because how my typing reads like. Sometimes even rereading I do not see errors I also see people make spelling/ grammar all the time. I do not sit here and berate them. I don't bother correcting it. If i am THAT confused by it I try to ask what they mean. About the attacking... if anything it is on the defensive.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 04:20 PM
Jesus Christ. That's pathetic, Rosina.

Please don't use ADD as an excuse for the way you carry yourself on this forum. It's embarrassing on my behalf to see you flaunt it around the way you do in an attempt to protect yourself. It makes other people with ADD look bad.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're not special. You're not the only person on this forum with ADD, but you don't see anyone else claiming that it's the cause for their stupid posts.

i can Say the same for yourself... why do you need to berate me for ing I have it as to inform people I do. Anyone and everyone who has ADD know it is hard to control. Most so if you have no tools to help. I'm not sayng it to be special. I'm not flaunting it. I;m saying it solely inform the ignorant. No one this earth ny reason to do what you just do as in go out of their way to repeatedly insult a person for the same thing like a broken record. If my typing is THAT hard go over my post. You do noeed to comment on my typing.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 04:27 PM
@Mo pretty mych let me explain it like this.
People are just using my issues as an excuse to further bully me because they dislike my opinions. They dislike how I play, and they dislike how I personally do not care what they think. They only me to play like them, I get insults flung at me daily on this forum. Never in game, aside my style of rdm. But I was adult about it and just opted out. So one needs to think on the "why" i'm getting insulted rather then what I'm getting insulted for.

I also do not give anyone with ADD a name. I just did the adult thing to stop insults. Which was to explain the situation on why my typing sucks. But also to say I do try my best. Which by everyones standers is NEVER good enough. I do try to seperate my text. I do try proof reading, if I had SC and GC i'd use those as well. But a Line has to be drawn some place.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 04:30 PM
Not an excuse... but I did just get a new keyboard so if my stuff is missing letters it is from that. >.>;; idk i've been having issues all day. And before you all anything. I did say in a few places that my old keyboard broke and I getting a new one.

But I'd like to point out... before people get on my case for being off topic i didn't start it. Only doing the adult thing and reply to those who insult me to make it stop. So they can stop derailing threads Just because I post in them.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 05:04 PM
Incoming Temp Ban...
Rosina. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
No one cares you have ADD, No one cares you have a heart problem, no one cares about you broken keyboard, no one cares you use your PS3 browser, no one cares you boyfriend paid for your account, no one cares you subsequently broke up, no one cares your dad now pays or some shit.
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR REAL LIFE
Type like a normal human being for gods sake you are talking in an internet forum! Do i go into a session of congress and start farting my 16 point plan for America out my ass!
And Jesus Christ, 4 posts in a row? Can you do ANYTHING right?

My point proven... thanks shadow. I knew you was going to bring all that up.

My only retort... if people do not care. Why do you go out of your way to insult for things i can't control. All i ever did was explain things like a human adult female. All i have ever got was insults as if being were human children at daycare.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 05:08 PM
for the post count, even a human child in understanding when people can't control everything. Shadow... you do realise you have no right to pretty much do what you are doing to me. And you have no reason to do so. I explained what I needed to. The ball was in everyones court and decided to foul then score a point. i Fully believe that i should never have to explain anything. It isn't there place. I only felt i had to because I unjustly insulted for things i can't control. So really either understand that or be an ignorant bully on the net all your life. Thats is more pathetic then my typing. Ur acting like i WANT to keep saying it. infact I don't. I don't like having to repeat myself but if the same insults are coming from the same people, you got to put two and two together.

Rosina
07-31-2012, 05:35 PM
ok every time i try to edit the my post my ps3 freezes ><

so ima just post the basic here.

Shadowsong and everyone else. I simply ask, and have been asking since day one to please for christ sake STOP insulting me for everything. STOP twisting my words around. If what I type is a hard read point out POLITELY which part. I will try to fix said part or better state it. Acting like a 4 year old bully stoning a person for their typinghile knowing the reasons pathetic. So so what if my typing isn't the best... I see you guys make errors all the time. Hell have the time you type stuff ouy like: "lol nub... you suck." really nub? I don't not see a ton of people doing perfect grammar/writting essay posts.
as for the poster who posted a comment about "me being the y one I knew with ADD" You took that out of complete context. It was to point out that everyone seems to know a person with ADD. Do you not find that a lil suspisous? Everyone seems to know about ADD... or know people with ADD... yet fail at the basic

Rosina
07-31-2012, 05:42 PM
understanding of whatDD is, or what it can effect, or how it affects it. Or understand it differs from person to person. It isn't some lump of everyone who has ADD does this, this and that. It varies to much. Also since the mid 90s ADD has been wrongly diagnosed by doctors. Meaning they tell parents theor kid has it... just to get them to take pills because the parent is too stressed out to deal with their own child. I know I have it I know how it affects me. All i ever did was try to explain it to stop the insults I was getting. In no way did I ever intend for it to be an excuse. I dislike being pittied. But i also dislike unjustly getting insulted for thing i can't control. Yoyu guys need to 1) accept i can't or 2) just over look my post.

Qouting my comments just to insult me or my spelling is pathetic.

Demon6324236
07-31-2012, 05:46 PM
Rosina you list these things off more often then SE tells us "balance"... Excuses are excuses, you are the one who likes to point them out to everyone, if you don't like people bringing it up, then stop telling people about it, simple fix. If people persist to do what you claim then simply leave the forums, you claim everyone only argues with you and berates you, so why stay? You want to give your opinion on the game? No one listens apparently, so thats not really doing much.
People are just using my issues as an excuse to further bully me because they dislike my opinions. They dislike how I play, and they dislike how I personally do not care what they think.If you don't care what they think then why fight back, just walk away, leave them to their ignorance.
But I'd like to point out... before people get on my case for being off topic i didn't start it. Only doing the adult thing and reply to those who insult meThe adult thing is to turn it into a giant pissing contest? Sorry, I guess I'm still very immature, I choose not to fight in most cases, most of the time I just turn around and walk away, ignoring people who do nothing except make themselves look insulting and foolish.

Now as for the beginning of this all...
WALL OF TEXTTL;DR version:
Old event is old. A continuous storyline does not equal a good event when the event itself is empty and has you going through the same motions over and over.
Ana you raging much??? Thing u need to cool ur jets a bit.
O btw too add..... you just dislike the character... Cuz every event is the same every year... but u only complaint is mumor....
Well... you're only half right about me disliking Mumor... but I guess you could call it that?

Contrary to what you may think or believe, I am not raging and I'm not nearly as upset as you think I am.To explain, this started when you misunderstood what someone meant, which led to what created this. To explain however part of what led to this was something you ignored. Look at 2 of these comments...
A continuous storyline does not equal a good event when the event itself is empty and has you going through the same motions over and over.
O btw too add..... you just dislike the character... Cuz every event is the same every year... but u only complaint is mumor....That last line alone is not about Mumor, rather then entire event itself. That single comment from you was quoted a few times by different people and led to what this has become.

You blame everyone but yourself in this, but you never step back and see that you are at least somewhat to blame. You were partly the cause of this entire thing, please don't fool yourself thinking otherwise.

Demon6324236
07-31-2012, 07:16 PM
Oh god a million times this.

Nothing would be sweeter than seeing a mod finally banhammering the fucking balls off of Rosina, knowing that there will finally even be ONE thread on these forums that she doesn't shit all over.

Think Shadow meant more that they will be temp banned for telling someone to "SHUT THE FUCK UP" since mods probably wouldn't be to happy about it.

fernando
07-31-2012, 09:01 PM
just leave the girl alone you ppl talking shit is worseerer, now about spelling, tell your government about it maybe they will fix the schools like they fixed the economy,and if that happens feel free to bash us all for any typo we may have going forward

Eurell
07-31-2012, 09:09 PM
You're right. It's the governments fault if someone can't spell.

-.-

fernando
07-31-2012, 09:39 PM
i hate being right but it happens here and there.

Tamoa
07-31-2012, 11:15 PM
Did I feel a bit of a breeze in here just now?

Camiie
07-31-2012, 11:25 PM
I still think we should be participants in the stage show somehow rather than acting as "fans." I'd like to see something a bit more action oriented and interactive. It'd be cool if we could be transported to a battlefield set up like a stage show. Heck, even something done using interactive cut scenes could be better than what we have now.

This is where concepts like phasing and instancing could really shine. Oh well ;_;

Anapingofness
08-01-2012, 01:09 AM
I still think we should be participants in the stage show somehow rather than acting as "fans." I'd like to see something a bit more action oriented and interactive. It'd be cool if we could be transported to a battlefield set up like a stage show. Heck, even something done using interactive cut scenes could be better than what we have now.

This is where concepts like phasing and instancing could really shine. Oh well ;_;

If the event was like that it would be pretty cool. I'm up for more of that delicious interaction and action >D!

Teraniku
08-01-2012, 02:06 AM
There's an idea. SE next year have Mumor discover the maws, and go into the past to rally the troops during the Crystal War. That way Once her enemy attacks, We can help participate by fighting along side her.

geekgirl101
08-01-2012, 05:26 AM
Wow, talk about a derailing topic... I was at least hoping someone might've asked how you get the +1 gear here, not people megabashing each other.

Iakothm
08-01-2012, 07:09 AM
to get the +1 version of the gear you just sync with her again and talk to the moogle.

you have to sync perfectly with her against cecelia or you dont get the +1.

Theytak
08-01-2012, 09:07 AM
@ Modoru

Honestly please stop saying "i know people with ADD..." Here is why.... 1) ADD effects people differently no 2 people will have the same issues. 2) ADD now a days is HEAVELY misdiganosed. I know ppl who got told they hadd ADD when it was infact something else entirely.

Second I never used it as an excuse. That was the assumption you guys have. As is the ability to use a form of spell checker. You may not believe this is true, but while in school w/o help. I infact got A's and B's for my writing. B's only due to my penminship. If I had a means to use spell checker, i would use it. If I had a grammar checker I would use. But on the Ps3 there are no such tools. As for block of text... I'm sure you guys read books... That is basic form of text set up any book. Also, with just the text I hit the limit the ps3 does infact have when it comes typing.

At some point you guys need to be understanding as well. And not solely put blame on me.

How about this, I have Predominately Inattentive ADHD (this is the formal name, ADD is not medically correct), and was diagnosed with it when I was 13. It's symptoms are regular, and have continued even to today, 7 years later. I have been on medication to treat it for 7 years (Initially Concerta, then Vyvanse after I turned 18), and said medication works properly. If you have ADHD and do not take your medication, you have no right to use it as a justification for anything, because the proper medication (note that some people only respond to certain medications, and get no benefit from others, so it's something that needs to be tried out with a psychiatrist's assistance) would fix anything caused by being inattentive. Additionally, being inattentive does not, in any way, justify the level of atrociousness present in your grammar and spelling. That you claim to have gotten moderately high grades for your compositional abilities, yet you communicate this poorly, implies that either you're simply lying, that your classes were incredibly easy, or that your teacher was very bad at their job.

That said, spelling and grammar have no impact on whether someone is right or wrong (except when similarly spelled words with opposite meanings are involved, in which case it's an issue of apparent meaning). They do, however, make it incredibly difficult to communicate, because trying to read a post that looks like a 13 year old typed it with their toes causes headaches, and headaches lead to short tempers, which leads to pointless arguments.

Some people argue that "I don't need to be grammatically correct, or spell things correctly, on the internet," because, "I type the way I speak" or "I'm relaxing, and don't want to put any thought into it" however, the former is almost never the case (as can be proven by simply reading most of said posts out loud) and the latter is simply an excuse to be lazy, and not a justifiable argument. Additionally, there is absolutely no reason to be lazy with your spelling, when both Firefox and Chrome have readily available free spellcheck plugins that will point out your spelling mistakes and correct them with a simple click or two. If you're using IE, that probably has one as well, but you should really stop using IE.


@ Mo

I never said it was rare. But it is hareditary(sp?) (pass on from chi;d and parent) ADD effects people different. You also shpuld realise that people insulted my typing well before I ever mentioned it... and only AFTER i said I do not do a few things. I only tried to explain that I have ADD, tried to explain how it effects me. And instead of being grown ups and cutting a lil slack, they continue to berate me. If you met me in person, or at least talk to me in game you would realise I'm not a bad person. Just misunderstood because how my typing reads like. Sometimes even rereading I do not see errors I also see people make spelling/ grammar all the time. I do not sit here and berate them. I don't bother correcting it. If i am THAT confused by it I try to ask what they mean. About the attacking... if anything it is on the defensive.

yea... no... Yes, ADHD has been shown to be a genetic disorder in the majority of individuals (according to twin studies, anyway), but the general symptoms are the same for everyone. The degree of severity, differs, and which symptoms any given individual case experiences will vary somewhat, but it's not a matter of "every single case is different" or else it would be impossible to properly classify and diagnose it. Besides, ADHD really has absolutely no relation to your inability to properly spell, just your inability to notice that you fucked up your spelling. ADHD is not a fucking justification for terrible communication skills; my own ADHD tends towards the more severe side of the inattentive symptoms, and even if I go a month without my meds, my grammar and spelling are still nearly perfect, even if I can't focus to retain my train of thought for more than 5 seconds. You're just lazy and don't want to admit it, don't use ADHD as crutch, because it makes the rest of us who have it look bad.

That, and people are going to continue attacking your spelling and grammar until you stop typing like a 13 year old kid who's never touched a keyboard before. Seriously, I don't have anything against you, but I cannot read your posts without getting a headache, because they're like reading youtube comments. Get Firefox or Chrome, get a spell check plug in, and then for a few days, before you post something, read it out loud and see how the pacing sounds. It will do wonders for your ability to convey what you're trying to say, and greatly improve how people view you, because poor grammar and spelling severely reduce one's apparent intelligence, regardless of how smart they actually are.

cidbahamut
08-01-2012, 01:37 PM
<3 Jinte
rate up!

Trisscar
08-01-2012, 05:45 PM
I still think we should be participants in the stage show somehow rather than acting as "fans." I'd like to see something a bit more action oriented and interactive. It'd be cool if we could be transported to a battlefield set up like a stage show. Heck, even something done using interactive cut scenes could be better than what we have now.

This is where concepts like phasing and instancing could really shine. Oh well ;_;

There was an event way back when where you had to fight Dynamis skinned beast men in the three strongholds. If the Mumor event had you fighting with her in BCNM against something like that it would be cool. Stake some money on it and get return based upon some kind of style system and I believe you have a winner.

Rosina
08-01-2012, 07:21 PM
Theytak

i hate to ask this, but where is you get your info about it? I was diagnosed @ 7-8 years old. Been on ritalin from second grade to 12th grade. I didn't like the effect I had it. But most of your info is incorrect. Not all doctors are fully aware of ADD/ADHD. And they stupedly lumped it under one catagory. No 2 people actually have the same symtopms or have the same level of them. You guys twist my words WAY to much. But here is the big thing, taking meds will not make me type better. I also want to ask if you actually had a neurological exam along with the 3-4 page testing as well as cognitive testing. As i repeatedly said doctors just lable ppl with ADD/ADHD. I also read some pamphlets that also gave wrong info about it... Doctoters today do not know much about ADD/ADHD heck some don't even know about SVT...

But why should I be temp ban.... you guys started with me first. You guys gets on my case first... And you guys START the topic first. I didn't bring up my ADD once when I first posted.

Rosina
08-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Also the mumor event isn't rehashed as much. I like it. I also like her eternal vana Illusion move. The bikini isn't a reskill either really and if you look closely on the females the nails are painted white. As for a bcnm fight.... There already is one for 75+ in the new battle event. You guys got to remember level 1s are suppose to be able to do these holiday events.

I personally think SE did a good job with the mumor protion of the event.

If you dislike this part of the event just don't do it. There is still goldfish scooping and the 3 mini games. Don't ruin the event for those who do like it be calling for it removal. Thats not very fair thing to ask for because of ur dislike on how the mini game plays out. I personally like the mini game.

Tamoa
08-01-2012, 08:41 PM
And you guys START the topic first. I didn't bring up my ADD once when I first posted.

If you didn't bring the subject up, how do we even know that you have ADD in the first place?



The bikini isn't a reskill either really and if you look closely on the females the nails are painted white.

Going to assume "reskill" is supposed to be reskin. Do you even know what reskin means? I think not.

Infidi
08-01-2012, 10:01 PM
Going to assume "reskill" is supposed to be reskin. Do you even know what reskin means? I think not. I thought it was fairly obvious it was supposed to be reskin. ^^ Little harsh there.

Demon6324236
08-01-2012, 10:08 PM
But why should I be temp ban.... you guys started with me first. You guys gets on my case first... And you guys START the topic first. I didn't bring up my ADD once when I first posted.

Look back at my last post, as I showed, you were the 1st one to take what someone said out of context, assume they were all RWAR:mad: and then it all started from there. You at the same time ignored the last thing they said, and said they only complained about a character, rather than the event, which was wrong because that entire last part was about the event as a whole.

You assume everyone is out to get you or something. For me its actually that I see threads like this one spiral down a bad path due to the fact you post in them, and all hell breaks loose shortly thereafter. That is not to say you are not welcome to post, but don't think everyone is after you trying to strike down your words as we are villains trying to do evil by following and picking on a single person.

Seriously, take a step back, look at where things began in this thread, and look over my last post. Not only that, but look in all threads real quick, where you are or arnt present. See if people really are following you and trying to burn you like a little kid trying to light an ant on fire with their magnifying glass. Most people who you claim are following and stalking you on these forums are actually present in many threads around the place. I see them in RDM, Battle Content, here, the main 3 places I post. They are also posting in many of the same threads. They arnt stalking me, trust me, I'm not nearly worth that kind of attention :p they are just people like me who post on a forum, and coincidentally in many of the same threads as me.

Trisscar
08-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Someone mind telling me why people allowed Rosina derail the conversation to be about her yet again?

Just report her, I know I did.

Theytak
08-02-2012, 02:00 AM
Theytak

i hate to ask this, but where is you get your info about it? I was diagnosed @ 7-8 years old. Been on ritalin from second grade to 12th grade. I didn't like the effect I had it. But most of your info is incorrect. Not all doctors are fully aware of ADD/ADHD. And they stupedly lumped it under one catagory. No 2 people actually have the same symtopms or have the same level of them. You guys twist my words WAY to much. But here is the big thing, taking meds will not make me type better. I also want to ask if you actually had a neurological exam along with the 3-4 page testing as well as cognitive testing. As i repeatedly said doctors just lable ppl with ADD/ADHD. I also read some pamphlets that also gave wrong info about it... Doctoters today do not know much about ADD/ADHD heck some don't even know about SVT...

But why should I be temp ban.... you guys started with me first. You guys gets on my case first... And you guys START the topic first. I didn't bring up my ADD once when I first posted.Where did I get my info? The DSM-IV. I'm thinking that if any source is going to reliable, it's probably the APA. You've read some pamphlets? That's cute. I've read a couple of the twin studies' journal publications, as well as other publications on ADHD. I'm a psychology major, after all, I live for this stuff (insert lolinternetpsychmajor here). Yes, I did take all of those tests. And no, you're misunderstanding the variation of symptoms. Personal experience differs, but the root cause and the basic symptoms are always close enough to a single type to be identifiable. If every single individual experienced ADHD so differently that none of them could agree on what it does, it would simply be impossible to categorize and diagnose with any degree of accuracy. There are always similarities.

Also, I made the same point about meds not helping your spelling, because they don't do anything for mine. Your ADHD has absolutely nothing to do with your inability to use proper spelling or grammar. That's entirely on you simply being lazy. Your ADHD is not an excuse for typing with your feet, so don't try to use it as such, especially when you have no idea what you're talking about, thanks.

oliveira
08-02-2012, 02:12 AM
Not supposed to mean an attack to any party here, but how you make it easy on everyone here in the most mature fashion ?

By completely ignoring who ever is being disruptive.

The person disrupting the conversation will either get bored and stop being annoying or will step up with the abuse, resulting in moderation. Just don't reply or fight back and things will eventually get back to normal levels.

Back into the topic, while I was doing the event yesterday I noticed that this time Mumor will lose and get KO'd if there's not enough people cheering for her. Interesting change.

Theytak
08-02-2012, 02:56 AM
Not supposed to mean an attack to any party here, but how you make it easy on everyone here in the most mature fashion ?

By completely ignoring who ever is being disruptive.

The person disrupting the conversation will either get bored and stop being annoying or will step up with the abuse, resulting in moderation. Just don't reply or fight back and things will eventually get back to normal levels.

Back into the topic, while I was doing the event yesterday I noticed that this time Mumor will lose and get KO'd if there's not enough people cheering for her. Interesting change.

I'm of the opinion that the "lalalala, I can't hear you, lalalala" approach you're suggesting is not particularly mature. Pointing out to someone that there are flaws in their posting method that make it difficult to read their posts, or to understand their points, regardless of their validity, and offering them advice on how to correct that issue is really the more mature approach. The problem lies in just how people go about pointing out said flaws.

oliveira
08-02-2012, 08:12 AM
I'm of the opinion that the "lalalala, I can't hear you, lalalala" approach you're suggesting is not particularly mature. Pointing out to someone that there are flaws in their posting method that make it difficult to read their posts, or to understand their points, regardless of their validity, and offering them advice on how to correct that issue is really the more mature approach. The problem lies in just how people go about pointing out said flaws.


My point is, by what I've seeing here... People have been trying that for a while already, no ?

scaevola
08-02-2012, 08:12 AM
There's an idea. SE next year have Mumor discover the maws, and go into the past to rally the troops during the Crystal War. That way Once her enemy attacks, We can help participate by fighting along side her.

Turning Mumor into the canonical savior of the Crystal War would be such a straight-up hilarious way to shoot the shaggy dog I can't help but support this idea.

Sp1cyryan
08-02-2012, 08:46 AM
So collecting eggs, following around Prince Yahiko, herding buffalo for the same prizes every year, and so on is better than Mumor?

At least Mumor and the prizes change yearly. Feast of Swords never does.

The Sunbreeze Festival is easily the best (or in the top two) of the seasonal events in FFXI and Mumor is a big part of that.

Garota
08-02-2012, 11:19 AM
She has more boob jiggle this year. That's what we all wanted right?

I guess she hit puberty? How many more Summer Fests 'til she's legal?

Meyi
08-03-2012, 01:26 AM
I guess she hit puberty? How many more Summer Fests 'til she's legal?

Well, since FFXI is a Japanese game, she's probably already legal.

Just like Prishe and Lilisette.

Elexia
08-03-2012, 01:42 AM
Well, since FFXI is a Japanese game, she's probably already legal.

Just like Prishe and Lilisette.

Prishe though is well past legal, she's technically a gilf for all intents and purposes.

Dragoy
08-03-2012, 01:54 AM
Hrhr... Let's see if there's still a thread to post in after I'm finished writing... (Hurray, it was, but will it remain!?)

Note that only the first part is about the behaviour of users in general, the latter is actually related to the topic(s). I hope I wrote it in a way that there is nothing one feels the need to respond to (the first part, that is), as I don't intend to further prolong that 'discussion'.

I just wish everyone could get along, but that is not life, after all.


I'm of the opinion that the "lalalala, I can't hear you, lalalala" approach you're suggesting is not particularly mature.

Thing is, on the internet, the other part often doesn't listen either, be it intentional or not. ^^;

That is to say, Rosina, there is no need to reply to this but, do you still not see that it simply does not work explaining things or asking people to stop? It doesn't really matter who started it, but each and every one of you are keeping it going, and I see no happy ending for it.

I understand your want to explain yourself, but you really shouldn't feel like you have to explain yourself. I have said this before, as many others have including yourself: ignore the posts you don't like, and if you feel insulted, report them. Talking to them simply does not work, and give only fuel to the fire. It should be much easier and relaxing on you as well, as I doubt you enjoy this kind of 'discussion'.

Try not to take insults on the internet so seriously. I'd simply laugh at insults towards me (not that insulting anyone is funny, but you know what I mean, I'm sure). ^^;

In short, I do not think you will ever able to 'win this war' by explaining yourself, or claiming you did not start anything. It doesn't even matter who did, and they will not care for your explanations nor reasons, it would seem.

I do think that you will either need to learn to ignore the 'insults' by using the ignore function of the forum, or simply 'mentally ignoring' them by not replying to them at all, and not taking their comments to heart.

If you really feel insulted still, I can't imagine your stay to be a pleasant one. :/


OK, just wanted to 'chime in' on that as one of the users who actually welcome Rosina to the community as a part of it, instead of trying to get rid of anyone here. I don't understand why people have to be so edgy against other users anywhere. Only reason I can understand it, is that they find it enjoyable to bash, insult, or otherwise behave in the manner they do.

But that is, as they say that. I mean, my opinion, and I also think anyone should do whatever they want to do, so get to it! Or don't... you know, what ever! Be happy, leave the pessimism to me~


\ö/


What comes to guides that are found from website like the wikis, I also like to find out things myself, instead of relying on other people, but when it comes to something like FFXI, with many things, it is simply a great time-saver to check what item you need for a quest for example, as it can take a lot of time to just walk to the start of the quest, only to find out you need to go all the way back again.

Many people simply don't have the time to waste, or they don't enjoy finding things out by themselves like some do, or/and they just want the prizes, where the guides help a lot, no doubt. I certainly didn't use the wiki much, if at all in the beginning of my FFXI days, but after I learned how ambiguous the quest descriptions can be, and that they never update during the quest, it became quite tedious for some quests not to take a look. After some time, I started making them better (hopefully), and uploading many images of monsters, and so on.

I have been editing the FFXIclopedia and Gamer Escape quite a bit, but lately I have not had lots of motivation nor time, which it takes a lot. I often wrote guides for events, even if it was more or less the same, but it takes time, and effort, and this is why they are out-dated. Anyone and everyone can edit them, though, which is both a good and a bad thing.


If they really wanted to do something... cool?... with Mumor they could take the tokusatsu bit a step further and actually have us participate in the show. Have it be an actual battle where we get to ham it up with emotes and calling our attacks. Not...not that I actually want to do things like that... /blush

Anyway the point would shift from cheering on Mumor to playing the role of an ally of hers to appease a crowd of NPCs.

Yeah, it's not that I exactly like to be dancing against a foe, or that I would like about cutesy things like the magical-girl stuff this is all about, but it would be great if the event was more like that.

In the end, basically all of these events are rather simple though, and obviously restricted by <cough> platform(s), so I never really expected more from them. It is what it is, and I still appreciate the effort of the people who created it, though I still do think it could be better.


Then again, a lot of things could be better...

Qeepel
08-03-2012, 02:52 AM
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Theytak
08-03-2012, 03:29 AM
Hello everyone,

I'd like to remind everyone to please refrain from making inflammatory comments towards others and off topic discussions. Such language and actions are considered a violation of the forum guidelines, and can result in the termination of your account.

Remember, everyone is entitled to their opinion. There is no need to make inflammatory comments towards other members that have opposing or different points of views or opinions. The same goes for those who feel the need to defend themselves against such comments, which is needless and futile. Such behavior is not constructive and only clutters the thread. If you have a problem with a post, please place the player on your ignore list and report the post if necessary.

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People make it so hard to hold back, though, and are so easily offended by things that aren't meant to be inflammatory :(

Not that I hold it against you, you guys have a rough job <3

Rosina
08-03-2012, 11:50 AM
If you didn't bring the subject up, how do we even know that you have ADD in the first place?




Going to assume "reskill" is supposed to be reskin. Do you even know what reskin means? I think not.

es I do know what reskin means, I was a graphic arts student. Are YOU sure you know what reskin means?

Reskin is taking the SAME design, and changing its color.
Case in point, the yukata are reskined. They are the same basic style just different colors. Each bikini is a completely different style. They also have different statesa/ enchanements. The +1 on the new one is good for starter mages.

Bearstar
08-10-2013, 03:14 PM
I <3 Sunbreeze! And I <3 the dancing game! FYI I'm the crazy Mithra running around Bismarck in replica Mumor and Uka costumes I've pieced together from various equipment. :3 Shinning Summer Samba!

Bearstar
08-10-2013, 04:00 PM
Mumor = Charis tiara (+1, +2), Black bathingsuit Top (+1), Gemini Subligar, Etoile toe shoes (+1, +2), Charm wand (+1) and/or Miracle (+1) [Mumor uses 2 heart wands for Fireday Night Fever]

Uka = Jester's hat, Charis casaque (+1, +2), Charis tights (+1, +2), Hands idk, weapon Owleyes not equipable by dancer.

Other outfits:

Blue bathingsuit (+1) and Glory Crown, Blue ribbon alternate

Red bathingsuit (+1) and Opo-opo crown, any red ribbon alternate

Himegami yukata, Decennial tiara (+1)

The female Taru dancers: Lilac/Gala/Wedding Corsage, Omina/Lady's/Onago/Onnagimi yukata

And for the men:

The male Taru dancers: Blue Ribbon, Onoko/Lord's/Otoko/Otokogimi yukata