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Gippo
07-24-2012, 02:07 PM
Dear Playerbase,

This staff is for wildfire cors. Don't use it on blm. It is garbage. Stop being lazy and get magian staves

Unless you fit the category of teal blms that aby burned your job, in which case this staff is perfect for you!

Thanks.

Dantedmc
07-24-2012, 07:25 PM
Um not everyone feels the need to make elemental staves for elements they hardly use (especially with blm being mainly a proccing job). I have my Ice and thunder magians, and I work on the others when I have time. Not to mention Chatoyant is still better than the DMG magians for the macc assuming it has the same macc as HQ staves, so unless you also run with all macc magian staves pretty sure the staff still has a use.

Ordoric
07-24-2012, 09:41 PM
how bout if you god forbid play more than one mage job?

Flyinghippress
07-25-2012, 04:48 AM
For those short on inventory space this staff is amazing. If you're looking to totally minimize your inventory need for a job like SMN, just pair this with a Soulscourge and you're set. Sure the magian staves are better but I know I for one don't have the inventory space to make staves for my SMN, SCH and BRD.

Some reasons to use this item:

This staff can be used for EVERY enfeebling magic spell and song.


This staff can be used for EVERY avatar -3 perpetuation cost.


This staff only gives 10% less damage than a magian staff when under the corresponding weather effect.


This staff inside abyssea will outperform magian staves due to the difference in "affinity" and "hidden elemental damage increase" when paired with other affinity+ atma (such as Beyond).


This staff can be used for EVERY Quick Draw.


This staff has +20 to all resistances making it ideal for mages that solo avatars (I've seen players killed even at 99 due to same day bonus landing).


Allows for mages to nuke with only one staff, freeing them up to use a WS to get MP back or use Shattersoul.


It's pretty!


Some reasons not to use this staff:

Outside of abyssea the magian staves will outperform it for damage.


Your inventory space is plentiful.


You can't cap cure potency without magian staff.


Doesn't retain the bonus (such as Terra's -pdt%) on most individual staves.


Edit:
Potential jobs to make most use out of this:
BRD - every enemy-targeted song
SMN - every avatar perpetuation
COR - Quick Draws and Wildfire
RDM - every enfeeble and nukes in abyssea or if short on inventory for outside abyssea
SCH - [RDM reasons] and cure staff if capped cure potency without using Arka IV
WHM - [RDM + SCH reasons]
BLU - Every magic based spell if playing backline
BLM - [RDM reasons]

Dragoon9
07-25-2012, 12:39 PM
Dear Playerbase,

This staff is for wildfire cors. Don't use it on blm. It is garbage. Stop being lazy and get magian staves

Unless you fit the category of teal blms that aby burned your job, in which case this staff is perfect for you!

Thanks.

just because you say one is lazy because they don't want a magian staff don't mean they are, honestly, its too much work for a staff that ain't used very often, for a black mage the Iridal staff is a better choice for pretty much all posistions and uses oh so much less inventory space. your probably just an old player who is jealous of the new staff because you worked on the magian staves

Babekeke
07-25-2012, 03:02 PM
As a player who has BRD SMN and BLM levelled and well-geared, and SCH and RDM levelled and not-so-well geared, this stave actually frees up enough inv space for me to make a magian stave or two. Before-hand it wasn't worth doing magian staves as I had to hold all 8 staves for other jobs anyway, and even just doing the thunder and ice nuking staves didn't seem worth it as whenever I play BLM it's either abyssea or VW and I'm just there to proc.

Rubicant82
07-26-2012, 06:40 PM
I personally support this stave :)
I am glad to have 7 more inventory places.
As far as putting it in the same category as teal ... yea.. no.
This staff is a smart choice for those who do not have time to complete all the trials. Lazy has nothing to do with it. I work, go to school nights, and rarely get to play. So for me spending what little time I have on staves I will never get to use because I am always doing Voidwatch, or other events that are more important then trials.

zadian
07-27-2012, 03:27 AM
you missed something off your list macro space +1
one extra line for what ever you may need it for

Babekeke
07-27-2012, 03:13 PM
you missed something off your list macro space +1
one extra line for what ever you may need it for

Very true, I now only need to swap 12 pieces of gear when swapping form enfeeb to nuke macros, instead of 13 ;p

Tamarsamar
07-27-2012, 03:23 PM
OP:

Because BLM and COR are the only jobs in the game.

Babekeke
07-28-2012, 08:24 PM
Just been using this in VW on BRD (but it is the same reasoning for BLM) and it's nice to actually have TP available (using monarch's drink whenever I have 1) to proc any staff procs that come along. Always have TP from the monarch's drink, and then still have wing available for a 2nd ws.

Edit: Not to mention that Occult Accumen is now worth having.

Daniel_Hatcher
07-28-2012, 08:58 PM
OP how about you just realise people can use what they want on accounts they pay for, trying to insult them by using such a dated means wont change that...

For some people they'd rather have the 6+ spaces back and loose the 10% boost then have 7+ staves that rarely get used just to hog space, and because someone tells them they should.

PS. You're wrong about it being a Wildfire staff too just so you know, many jobs who are not on the magian staves get use out of this.

Nawesemo
08-06-2012, 02:03 AM
O.o 10% <<<<<<!!!!!! I dunno, tp meh, it's nice when I have it but only on the rare occasion i need it. I prefer My using the Max I can get when I can use it, 10% may not seem like alot but O.O I like that 10%. Blm Whm Drk so inventory isn't all that but I make use of porters like mad, and do what I can to consolidate. running @ 72/80 on blm so I miss alot of goodies in the midst of the storm if i don't start hucking things into moogle sacks and what have you. I could see owning this staff and never using it being as much a problem as my current staffs are, ... I probably won't have one.

0nionKn1ght
08-16-2012, 01:52 AM
Not everyone is a min/maxer. Heck im going for a Twashtar but would never even think of taking it passed the WS unlock version, as it's just insane what needs to be done to poke up a little extra damage.

Some people are perfectly happy doing a few points less damage than others to conserve on space in both their inventory and macro lines.

Don't be so arrogant as to assume that everyone wants to play to the pinnacle, in full +9's and nothing less.

Waldrich
08-16-2012, 02:04 AM
Dear Playerbase,

This staff is for wildfire cors. Don't use it on blm. It is garbage. Stop being lazy and get magian staves

Unless you fit the category of teal blms that aby burned your job, in which case this staff is perfect for you!

Thanks.

Someone clearly love to use spellcast.

Thelona
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
I can see a use for Blu with magic builds, a real space saver seeing as every spell has a different mod to gear for.

As for those non min/maxers, the op has exempted you. This staff would be good for you.

Mirage
08-19-2012, 12:25 PM
Maybe it's not for BLM, but it's definitely not for COR Only.
I'm going to make an arka iv, two trial nuke staves for SCH, two trials staves for SMN, and use the Chatoyant staff for everything else. With the appropriate obis and storms on SCH, it is actually pretty decent.

Metaking
08-20-2012, 05:03 PM
on the subject of blu, alot of its nukes have add effects, which more often than not don't match the spells element, and they have a few that do 2 different element debuffs at once, its kinda nice to be able to max both aspects of said spells finally ^^/

Nawesemo
08-21-2012, 06:31 AM
I lied, this staff is pretty nifty, after taking some in shell flack over my previous post, my linkshells Fearless leader hit me over the head with the stupid stick and had me hunt down our shells Sr. crafter and he smashed my staves into one, replaced my Terra with a earth and went to see what was up, ..... here is my speculation, the staff acts finniky on matching days and spells, but otherwise inventory alone would make it worth its price, and or the small if any change in performance. I do own one now, and love my shell for breaking my stubborn brain bucket of its foul content...... My bad gang, my bad. (ToM when possible though)