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Ezikiel
07-24-2012, 05:33 AM
i want stats
Reiterpallasch
07-24-2012, 05:43 AM
I want to know what an "Iridal Staff" is.
Edit: Was answered below. Didn't realize it's the name of the NQ. Thanks!
Spiritreaver
07-24-2012, 05:49 AM
i want stats
Sorry, did the +1, but here they are anyways:
Chatoyant Staff
(Staff)All Races
DMG45: Delay:356 STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5
AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5
All elemental resistances +20
"Cure" Potency +10%
MP recovered while healing +10
"Iridescence"
Lv.51 All Jobs
Spiritreaver
07-24-2012, 05:54 AM
I want to know what an "Iridal Staff" is.
Its the long over-due revamp of the lvl 51 elemental staffs. Iridal is the NQ combo staff and Chatoyant is the HQ combo staff.
I'm kind of regretting it. I have been testing it in Aby Vunkerl on Jasconius, and it's definitely doing less damage than my HQ ice. Seems to cap at 4000 damage, I got 5/8 at 4000, a few under 4k, and one 4227. Overwhelmingly evenly at 4000 exactly though.
Demon6324236
07-24-2012, 06:12 AM
This staff (especially with the bonus from weather) will be amazing for SCH. The current main question is what level affinities do we have on it?
As soon as HQ prices come down I want to compare it to the ice staff. Everything I'm seeing says it's not as potent.
Demon6324236
07-24-2012, 06:28 AM
As soon as HQ prices come down I want to compare it to the ice staff. Everything I'm seeing says it's not as potent.
Level 99 Ice staff?
Sotek
07-24-2012, 06:46 AM
From what I gather, its the same +15% as old HQ elemental staves with +10% weather in the fashion of Twilight Cape.
For SCH this might actually come out on top, easy access to weather makes that +10% more or less permanent and with TP from Occult Acumen Shattersoul is actually a viable weapon skill. It effectively does 10% less damage than Trials for SCH, but when you account for Shattersoul is actually becomes more or less equal. Extra INT, MACC and inventory space being obvious bonuses in favor of this staff. Reduced cast time and the fact that you wouldn't be putting any effort into that extra 20% on Trials staves go in their favor. Honestly, the amount of effort that would go into making this new staff deal the same amount of damage will probably hurt your DoT in the long run, but it's certainly something to look into.
That does all of course depend on how viable it actually is to use Shattersoul on SCH. In theory with no TP loss to changing weapons and Adloquium there really is no reason not to throw down Shattersoul. I'm probably forgetting something like "Shattersouls -10 magic defense isn't 100% and is completely resisted on anything worth a damn" though.
Edit: Oh hi derp, of course... If you're using Shattersoul it gives anyone using a Trials staff the same bonus leaving you ~10% behind anyway. Though I guess if nobody currently uses Shattersoul you're effectively adding 10% for every nuker in your party...
Level 99 Ice staff?
No the HQ Ice staff. I was getting even 4000 shots on Jasconius compared with 4700's yesterday. Only thing I don't know is what elemental day it was yesterday, so I can't really do a scientific comparison.
Demon6324236
07-24-2012, 07:02 AM
No the HQ Ice staff. I was getting even 4000 shots on Jasconius compared with 4700's yesterday. Only thing I don't know is what elemental day it was yesterday, so I can't really do a scientific comparison.
Ok, well that does kinda look bad, looks like this staff might not be all it should be ;;
The only reason I mention it is because it's consistent 4k's, not even random numbers, but even 4000 after 4000.
Spiritreaver
07-24-2012, 07:23 AM
What Atmas you using Wint?
Beyond, Merciless Matriarch, and Minikin. The previous day I had the same exact setup except for the HQ Ice Staff and was getting well over 4000, 4700 at one point. I don't remember the elemental day however. Hopefully when staff prices come back down I can do some comparisons.
Spiritreaver
07-24-2012, 07:38 AM
Beyond, Merciless Matriarch, and Minikin. The previous day I had the same exact setup except for the HQ Ice Staff and was getting well over 4000, 4700 at one point. I don't remember the elemental day however. Hopefully when staff prices come back down I can do some comparisons.
Well damn. Two marks(no att/ratk boooo!!!) against it in my book now, though even the few inventory slots i got back still pulling ahead.
Tsukino_Kaji
07-24-2012, 07:50 AM
I'm kind of regretting it. I have been testing it in Aby Vunkerl on Jasconius, and it's definitely doing less damage than my HQ ice. Seems to cap at 4000 damage, I got 5/8 at 4000, a few under 4k, and one 4227. Overwhelmingly evenly at 4000 exactly though.Yes, because Chat loses the MAB.
Yes, because Chat loses the MAB.
Oh really? I hadn't heard that.
saevel
07-24-2012, 08:25 AM
Yes, because Chat loses the MAB.
What MAB?
No ele staff ever had +MAB on them. They just had affinity+1/2 which where direct 10/15% damage bonus's.
Zeargi
07-24-2012, 09:30 AM
I don't want to assume, but does this staff also lower all the prep costs for Avatars by the respected value of -2/-3?
Khiinroye
07-24-2012, 10:04 AM
Beyond, Merciless Matriarch, and Minikin. The previous day I had the same exact setup except for the HQ Ice Staff and was getting well over 4000, 4700 at one point. I don't remember the elemental day however. Hopefully when staff prices come back down I can do some comparisons.
The new staff's damage bonus is calculated like maigan staves--it is additive to atma affinity, not multiplicative. The 4000 vs 4700 works out to be about right for the 4700 being on iceday with a twilight cape. On iceday, the new staff should do ~5000.
Tsukino_Kaji
07-24-2012, 11:08 AM
What MAB?
No ele staff ever had +MAB on them. They just had affinity+1/2 which where direct 10/15% damage bonus's.Meant to say elemental, but I was thinking of the potentcy too much at the time. Chatoyant dose less then aquilo because it's laking this stat.
Iakothm
07-24-2012, 11:17 AM
Meant to say elemental, but I was thinking of the potentcy too much at the time. Chatoyant dose less then aquilo because it's laking this stat.
No he was saying the HQ staff does more than the NQ new staff which makes sense. Since well... The HQ adds more %.
Tsukino_Kaji
07-24-2012, 11:21 AM
No he was saying the HQ staff does more than the NQ new staff which makes sense. Since well... The HQ adds more %.No, my responce was to the guy saying that chatoyant did les dmg then his aquillo. I was stating that chatoyant was missing the relevant stat that aquillo has. Hence teh dmg difference.
I'm kind of regretting it. I have been testing it in Aby Vunkerl on Jasconius, and it's definitely doing less damage than my HQ ice. Seems to cap at 4000 damage, I got 5/8 at 4000, a few under 4k, and one 4227. Overwhelmingly evenly at 4000 exactly though.
Iakothm
07-24-2012, 11:25 AM
No, my responce was to the guy saying that chatoyant did les dmg then his aquillo. I was stating that chatoyant was missing the relevant stat that aquillo has. Hence teh dmg difference.
actually he doesnt even mention what staff he is comparing it to but if you read later he says he will try when the prices drop so i assume he means the chatoyant when it drops?
Tsukino_Kaji is right, I'm comparing the new HQ Chatoyant staff to my old Aquilos staff. The Aquilos seems to have performed better, but I need to test more to be sure.
Since you lose your HQ staves making the Chatoyant, and since prices are crazy for them right now, I will be waiting to perform said testing :cool: