Colored Text

[Nala]

So is typing in color what all the cool kids do now?!

Just noticed a trend of people using colored text in posts now thought i'd try it out. am i doing it right?

[Arcon]

Yeah, you are. Looks just as stupid as when they do it.

[Eric]

Did you really have to start a thread about this?

[Nala]

maybe? i was bored.

[Randwolf]

So is typing in color what all the cool kids do now?!

Just noticed a trend of people trolling in posts now thought i'd try it out. am i doing it right?
FTFY. And yes, you're doing right.

[0nionKn1ght]

Using colour in posts on the internet is a new trend ladies and gentlemen.

I have to be honest though I find it hilarious that something as simple as a slightly different colour in a post and a font change has caused this much wadded up underpants. You people are the most sensitive trolls I have ever met, and terrible ones at that :)

http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/ermahgerd-sperk-Spock.jpg

[Jackstin]

It makes what you stay stand out with colour, instead of content.

[Nala]

or in your case blend in with the white background of the forums, meh i guess i am trolling for a change, mostly because i was bored though, can honestly say probably the only time i've posted with the intention of doing so too. anyways back to bordem.

[tyrantsyn]

Hello red color text, now if only I could make your drip and smear down the page

[Chilloa]

I don't know about other people, but I just go right over colored text posts. I don't even bother with them.

inb4coloredtextresponse

[0nionKn1ght]

I don't know about other people, but I just go right over colored text posts. I don't even bother with them.

inb4coloredtextresponse

Well thats a lie as the OP is in colour :)

[Reiterpallasch]

ITT: People still have no @#$%ing idea what the word "troll" means.

Being mad at fucktarded colors doesn't make you a troll.
Using colors (More than highlighting specific text), doesn't make you a troll either. (Stupid. It make's you stupid)

ERMAHGERD, CERLERS!

[Iakothm]

Why make a thread crying about Colors again? Seriously It is just a different color text....

[Arcon]

Why make a thread crying about Colors again? Seriously It is just a different color text....

It hurts my soul.

[Zachary90]

but i like colors

[Nala]

lol, as i said before i was bored and was curious as to why? no other reason besides boredom.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

maybe? i was bored.

Pointless threads are against the rules.

[Reiterpallasch]

Pointless threads are against the rules.
But luckily it's not pointless, and serves a purpose. It's a general topic in the general forums, talking about forum related things.

Be sure to blindly mash the report button like most do since you simply do not like the topic though.

[Zachary90]

This is "General Discussion", can be about anything really... In general.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

But luckily it's not pointless, and serves a purpose. It's a general topic in the general forums, talking about forum related things.

Be sure to blindly mash the report button like most do since you simply do not like the topic though.

I've never once reported a topic.

It serves no purpose, it was created out of boredom, thus it is pointless.

[Eric]

why is this thread still here? what is wrong with you people?
http://i.minus.com/iVGXwpKFWyXq2.png

[Jackstin]

or in your case blend in with the white background of the forums, meh i guess i am trolling for a change, mostly because i was bored though, can honestly say probably the only time i've posted with the intention of doing so too. anyways back to bordem.

Aww you don't get irony, that's sweet.

[Nala]

lol, i got it and while i may have created this thread out of bordem (and might i add has it done well in entertaining) i still had a point, not that it matters but then again why take the extra effort to color a whole post? that question itself was not meant to be a troll though i did present it in a trollish manner.

[SpankWustler]

I finally found something worse than the lime green! It feels like my eyes are trying to swim away in terror!

AWESOME!

[Rosina]

honestly i perfer colored text posts over plain jane black on white. First off... it seperates the posts insyead of blending them in. Second, it adds a lil flavor to the poster in question. Third it looks less dull.

If you want stuff to pop out add a bit of color thats basic rule of graphic arts. Then again uncreative ppl cry at colors.... it scares them....

[Reiterpallasch]

honestly i perfer colored text posts over plain jane black on white. First off... it seperates the posts insyead of blending them in. Second, it adds a lil flavor to the poster in question. Third it looks less dull.

If you want stuff to pop out add a bit of color thats basic rule of graphic arts. Then again uncreative ppl cry at colors.... it scares them....
It also makes you look like a total douchebag depending on the color used.

Especially if you use white, to match the unique little snowflake that you are.

[Nala]

I have decided to adopt more colorful language in light of the (lack of) conversation good ole' #C35617

[bungiefanNA]

You could just set your web browser to override the color scheme of every page it displays anyway. I didn't even realize anyone was using different colors here, as my computer is set to force high contrast, so all my web pages use bright green text on a black background.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v338/bungiefan/?action=view&current=JPFFXISEMembers1.png

That's the way everything looks on my computer. I did it to stop the migraines of trying to read text offa lit lightbulb (since a bright white background with dark text has that effect), and because one forum I was on did an April Fool's joke of setting the entire forum to a bright pink Princess Peach theme with bright yellow text.

FireFox lets you do it in Tools -> Options -> Content -> Colors. You can specify colors to use for pages, and force the browser to enforce them, which will make all posts the same color if they bother you.

[Trumpy]

some alternate colors are ok. others strain the eyes to read. therefore many colored posts arent even read.

[Clou777]

I go peepee standing up

[wish12oz]

I don't know about other people, but I just go right over colored text posts. I don't even bother with them.

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I do the same, I also avoid reading just about anything from Rosina

[Modoru]

Because I like teal and small text looks clean and concise to me. Sue me.
At least I don't make a point out of it, nor do I pretend to be better than anyone because of it. It's just personal preference -- that's all.

[Spiritreaver]

I go peepee standing up

You sir get a like for the Wimp-lo reference!

[Teraniku]

Because I like teal and small text looks clean and concise to me. Sue me.
At least I don't make a point out of it, nor do I pretend to be better than anyone because of it. It's just personal preference -- that's all.
The small text also induces eyestrain on us poor farsighted people. =P

(What? thought I'd use orange since no one else was using it, except for some of the letters in the OP)

[Reiterpallasch]

There are only so many colors, so we're going to have to start using new fonts too!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The small text also induces eyestrain on us poor farsighted people. =P

(What? thought I'd use orange since no one else was using it, except for some of the letters in the OP)Perhaps he has an overly large screen.

[Modoru]

I have a 24" screen. 1920x1080. I'm not wearing my glasses, and I can read small text just fine.

[Arcon]

I have a 24" screen. 1920x1080. I'm not wearing my glasses, and I can read small text just fine.

I can too. I can also hop to work on one leg. But I don't want to. Partly, because it's more annoying than walking should be, and partly because I'd look like a tool. Both points apply to your font as well.

[Modoru]

I feel you're[anyone is?] making this into something bigger than it should be [versus my text boo] it's just text, and it's still being read one way or the other, so why should it really bother you? Just let it be. At least I try to post informative posts, versus other people's... questionable content.

[Reiterpallasch]

Except it's not really being read, because it's annoying to do so. Using small text with a hard to read color is just being a unique little snowflake for the sake of being a snowflake.

Know who else is a snowflake? Rosina.

[Merton9999]

Except it's not really being read, because it's annoying to do so. Using small text with a hard to read color is just being a unique little snowflake for the sake of being a snowflake.

Know who else is a snowflake? Rosina.

I agree. Coloring your whole post is like dressing like Bjork. It's just for attention. It took computer designers 20 years to figure out that despite all the neato colors easily available on a computer screen, there's a reason why every business and school project is written/typed/printed on off-white paper with black text. It is, hands-down, the easiest to read across the board.

As far as drawing attention via colors, that generalized statement is not a graphic design principle. The graphic design principle is the bolded "not" in the previous sentence. You accentuate specific details amongst a larger text set to draw attention to those pieces. If you color the whole thing you're defeating the purpose.

If you want proof hop over to dribbble.com. It's a site where professional graphic designers post their work for critique and recognition. The site itself uses a neutral background with neutral contrasted text, reserving color for the thumbnails of contributor projects. Also, if you browse the contributions, you'll notice the vast majority of site designs use neutral backgrounds and neutral text when they want you to read and comprehend an informational paragraph. Color is used for a reason to draw attention to pictures, links, headers, advertisements and other specific pieces that just need to grab you for a second away from the text.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Except it's not really being read, because it's annoying to do so. Using small text with a hard to read color is just being a unique little snowflake for the sake of being a snowflake.

Know who else is a snowflake? Rosina.Can't you just set your preferences so it comes out black and standard regardless?

[Modoru]

Honestly? Comparing me to Rossina over a font color and type size change is a huuuge fallacy. Why should it suddenly bother everyone, when there hasn't been a single complaint in over a year? Honestly -- this is not a contest to "stand out", but why would you make it seem that way? Just ignore my posts, if it truly is as cumbersome as you make it out be. I'm sure there's a middle ground, but at this point I'm pretty sure everyone' just nitpicking for the sake of having something to complain about.

[Demon6324236]

Honestly? Comparing me to Rossina over a font color and type size change is a huuuge fallacy. Why should it suddenly bother everyone, when there hasn't been a single complaint in over a year? Honestly -- this is not a contest to "stand out", but why would you make it seem that way? Just ignore my posts, if it truly is as cumbersome as you make it out be. I'm sure there's a middle ground, but at this point I'm pretty sure everyone' just nitpicking for the sake of having something to complain about.

I honestly don't know either, I think everyone is just getting dumber on here.

[Trumpy]

you've been posting that tiny ass ugly green txt for a year? have you not been postin much cause i have only noticed this in the last few weeks. and its annoying to lean in closer to the screen jsut to read ur crap.

[Arcon]

Honestly? Comparing me to Rossina over a font color and type size change is a huuuge fallacy.

Only if your interpretation is unreasonably shallow. In terms of wanting to stand out for something irrelevant it does compare.


Honestly -- this is not a contest to "stand out", but why would you make it seem that way?

We're not making it seem that way, you are. What other reason could you possibly have to use a different font? Because rationally there is none. In fact, rationally there are several reasons against it. You may have noticed my post suddenly looking like ass as well. That's not my doing. I'm specifically didn't bother erasing your ugly-ass font when I started my post to prove a point, because that's what everyone quoting you partially will have to do. That's just one of the problems, that your font brings. Aside from that, both the size and the color are harder to read than the regular font, it may actually physically hurt some people with certain eye-related disabilities.

It carries zero intellectual information, only cosmetic information. And cosmetic information is, by default, only useful to look pretty. And what possible reason could you have for wanting your forum posts to look pretty (disregarding the fact that most people seem to disagree with you on its effect in the first place)?


[..] at this point I'm pretty sure everyone' just nitpicking for the sake of having something to complain about.

This is the FFXI forums. Trust me, the people on here have more than enough things to complain about. I wouldn't be writing any of this if I didn't have a reason to disagree. There are only reasons against it and no reasons for it (aside from personal ones). That makes your posting style factually bad.

Edit:
Note that I have nothing against formatting text for a specific purpose. It's a good feature for highlighting certain parts of a post or when used to convey some sort of information in a specific way. But I don't see any reason why everything you say has to be of a certain format. And for the same reason, I don't get why people format their instant messenger text either, but at least I can override all of those.

[Modoru]

Posting from phone so I'm screwed for pretty-making, but I did say earlier: "I like teal and smaller font feels more clean and concise for me". And I forgot the rest 'cause I can't quote. ;;
I'll get back to you tomorrow when I can read your post calmly.

[Kristal]

I have decided to adopt more colorful language in light of the (lack of) conversation good ole' #C35617

Did you know there is a color called #FFDEAD? Sounds more like a twitter feed then a color to me...


You could just set your web browser to override the color scheme of every page it displays anyway. I didn't even realize anyone was using different colors here, as my computer is set to force high contrast, so all my web pages use bright green text on a black background.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v338/bungiefan/?action=view&current=JPFFXISEMembers1.png

For some reason, green-on-black makes me want to gouge out my eyes... it pierces the soul like a million tiny needles >_<


I don't much care about colored posts, as long as they stick with darker colors so it doesn't become a pain to read. I get more annoyed by size tags... size=ant just invites the boot stomping all over it...

[Dragoy]

Modoru, et al,

I have transferred here from another topic, mostly unchanged.
So very nice to meet you all!

Due to the discussion sparked over there by this post I believe, I felt like posting something about this topic as well!


If you post merely for your own delight, it's of course perfect the way you best like it!

However, if you consider being a part of this community, and actually receive complaints (mainly talking about valid, well mannered ones, not so much about the 'complaining just to complain and/or to be rude' ones), it would be courteous to at least consider if something could be done to enhance their reading experience as well (could think of it as customer service of sorts, from user to another). Just because you can read it fine, doesn't mean everyone else can, obviously, which I'm sure everyone would agree with. ^^;

Surely everything is readable, whatever it is, where ever it is.
The question is, by whom, and where, as well as how?

But yeah, if only thing that matters to you is your personal experience, that is, as they say, that. I just figured I'd share my tiny opinion on that since someone had quite a valid request: “could it be slightly larger in size?”

Personally, the colour Modoru uses is quite pleasant for my eyes, but user experience will vary, just as does eyesight, which might be not so perfect more often than it is. The same font is a little bit too tiny in my opinion as well, but I can still read it OK (though I do sit perhaps relatively close to my display), and don't really care what people do with their text either way!

I don't think there has been any such colour that has been really annoying to me. Not even the clever white ones. I guess I still have better things to do, than to get annoyed not to mention angry about frivolous stuff. \ö/

As also mentioned, one can always override the user-settings if one really wants to do something about it. I, for one, don't mind it, really, and I do agree with Rosina that it can add some amount of personality to a user.

Just a few thoughts on that. I have to say that it was rather funny to see this thread as I had been more or less expecting something like this to happen soon... So if nothing else, at least it made me nearly smile a little.

As a conclusion: Forum features like to be used. I wouldn't be surprised if this one would be the next one to go, though.

Oh and that green on black is surprisingly OK to me.
I imagined it would be quite terrible indeed before I saw the picture. :S


And that is, as they say, a hat.


Edit:

Oh and as for it being the General Discussion forum, one might say that this topic has very little to do with FINAL FANTASY XI itself, as topics here should be, according to the welcome-thread though I guess it can be a little bit open for interpretation, heh. Well, at least it has something to do with the forum. ^^

[Modoru]

I have absolutely no problem seeking for a middle ground in which we could all agree on, that much is sure -- but calling my style "eye-cancer", among others, is hardly the way to do it.

If you don't like it, discuss it with me in a more tranquil way, there's no reason to get ad hominem on the matter. I'll gladly take suggestions that don't involve any more arguing. As I said twice before: "I like teal and smaller font feels more clean and concise for me". So please, take that into consideration before you pin it down as a form of standing out for attention. Send me a message if you so feel inclined.

[Arcon]

If you don't like it, discuss it with me in a more tranquil way, there's no reason to get ad hominem on the matter.

I do apologize for my earlier aggression. I don't respond well to stubbornness, which was what I interpreted your attitude as. And I'm aware of your preference, but that alone is not a reason. I like the color blue more than I like the color black, but I don't format my posts blue. Because I don't think that's relevant to these forums, or any forums, which are a matter of expressing thoughts and opinions on a game. Its entire purpose is of an intellectual nature, not a cosmetic one. I just can't follow the reasoning that lead to your decision, but now I admit I have thought too much into it. I guess there was no further reasoning beyond a design choice.

Also, did they implement messaging on these forums yet? I thought they weren't gonna do that. And if they did, I don't know how.

[Modoru]

Er, sorry, I just kind-of assumed everyone uses BG. lol.

[Trumpy]

i dont like the color much myself that you use, but id be willin to deal with it as i usually am unless the color nearly matches the background and makes it unreadable. but as i said before its the tiny text thats prolly the worst of it. my lcd is at the back of my desk there so its a good 2-3 feet from my eyes. so other than just leanin right up to the screen there is nothing to do but squint to read what u say. I wish i could jsut decide "if i cant read it i aint gonna bother" like some do, but i really do try to read every post in a thread im checkin so it is a bit frustrating to see posts formatted like yours have been lately.

[Demon6324236]

A somewhat easy fix to it is just click "Reply With Quote" and read it that way, should show just like normal in the box except you gotta read around the [blah blah] boxes.

[Modoru]

i dont like the color much myself that you use, but id be willin to deal with it as i usually am unless the color nearly matches the background and makes it unreadable. but as i said before its the tiny text thats prolly the worst of it. my lcd is at the back of my desk there so its a good 2-3 feet from my eyes. so other than just leanin right up to the screen there is nothing to do but squint to read what u say. I wish i could jsut decide "if i cant read it i aint gonna bother" like some do, but i really do try to read every post in a thread im checkin so it is a bit frustrating to see posts formatted like yours have been lately.

It's a bit concerning to me actually, I don't remember this many people other than Dragoy and I with formatted posts. Hence why I kept responding with " a year ago", because it was really only us who really bothered. s:

[bungiefanNA]

For some reason, green-on-black makes me want to gouge out my eyes... it pierces the soul like a million tiny needles >_<

I've seen people choose other color combinations, but that's the beauty of it, you can pick it and enforce it system-wide. My Apple ][ I had as a first computer came with a green monochrome monitor, and I remembered that I didn't get headaches with it, so that's what I set my system to. One of my friends like more blueish text on black, and another likes yellow on black. I picked the color that worked for me after tinkering with it a bit, and I've been on that color scheme since 2005.

Either way, a dark background with bright text is much easier on the eyes when your screen is backlit. Paper isn't backlit, lightbulbs are. Reading black on white on a computer screen is like reading off a lit lightbulb all the time.

[Arcon]

Either way, a dark background with bright text is much easier on the eyes when your screen is backlit. Paper isn't backlit, lightbulbs are. Reading black on white on a computer screen is like reading off a lit lightbulb all the time.

Sure, if the lightbulb operates at 1W. And even that is probably too high. A black screen is still backlit (in virtually all cases, depending on the hardware) and can give you headaches just as well. It's a matter of tolerance which varies from person to person and you can actually adapt to it so it doesn't ever bother you again in your life. Enough with the propaganda already.

[Nala]

Depending on if you're still using a CRT style monitor could also be the refresh rate as well, either way i originally meant only to poke a little fun at people doing this not start a huge debate x.x i'm sorry should i delete the op?

[0nionKn1ght]

Depending on if you're still using a CRT style monitor could also be the refresh rate as well, either way i originally meant only to poke a little fun at people doing this not start a huge debate x.x i'm sorry should i delete the op?

Your intention was to troll a little, which attracted trolls. All I have seen so far in this thread is a lot of sand being blown into private locations, and it is continually amusing that people can get this bent out of shape over the colour on an internet forum :D

[Dragoy]

so other than just leanin right up to the screen there is nothing to do but squint to read what u say.

Ever tried Ctrl+mouse-wheel? xd
Sort of the same effect, but kind of backwards to leaning towards the monitor.

I already kind of miss Modoru's font, as I did/do kind of like it heh. :S

[Modoru]

Ever tried Ctrl+mouse-wheel? xd
Sort of the same effect, but kind of backwards to leaning towards the monitor.

I already kind of miss Modoru's font, as I did/do kind of like it heh. :S

I miss my font too. Default looks ugly~.

[Dragoy]

I miss my font too. Default looks ugly~.

By the by, I don't think anyone had a problem with you signature having it. :b

[Modoru]

By the by, I don't think anyone had a problem with you signature having it. :b

I'm aware, but I'm just faaaaar too lazy to bother.