Ryx
07-17-2012, 05:23 AM
Platform: Windows
ISP: Time Warner Oceanic
Type of Internet Connection: DSL
Internet Connection Speed: No Idea
Date & Time: 7/16/2012, 9:40am HAST/HST (12:40pm PDT; 7/17/2012, 4:40am JST)
Frequency: 2. Sometimes
Character Name: Rayix
Race: Elvaan M
World: Asura
Main Job: Dragoon Lv.99
Support Job: Warrior Lv.49
Area and Coordinates: Abdaljs Isle-Purgonorgo, H-7
Party or Solo: Party, 2
NPC Name: None
Monster Name: None/Any
Steps:
Went to Brenner to check on rumors of Gungnir's additional effect misbehaving. Took myself (Drg/War) and my friend, Czephiroth (Pld/War) to Abdaljs Isle-Purgonorgo for a private match to test and record the defense down effects of Dragoon's abilities.
No additional buffs were used for this test, no food, no protect, no berserk/defender, no def+% gear to throw off the #s.
Base Defense: 554
Angon (no gloves): 443
Angon (Aug'd AF2+2 gloves with 5/5 Angon merits): 415
Gungnir (Lv.95 form) additional effect: 450
Confirmed just a few basic points:
Angon (no gloves) is a Defense-20% effect
Angon (with gloves) is a Defense-25% effect with 5/5 Angon merits
Gungnir's additional effect, reported to be -17%, is in-fact closer to a -18.7% effect on the Lv.95 Form
Onto the issue:
Gungnir would overwrite Angon, despite being the weaker effect. Angon could overwrite Gungnir's def. down, as expected, but Gungnir overwriting Angon is an error. The general rule for effects is that the stronger effect should always win.
It is not possible for Angon to have worn off prior to Gungnir's additional effect, as Angon is a static duration based on merits. With 5/5, that duration is 90 seconds, or 1:30, if not erased by an effect. We did no such effect to remove Angon early.
Gungnir's effect is nice for the times when Angon isn't up, but if you're fighting a large-scale monster in say Legion, you do NOT want to have the defense down effect downgraded mid-battle while Angon should still be in effect.
Please address this issue so that Gungnir's additional effect cannot take effect while a stronger defense down effect is active.
ISP: Time Warner Oceanic
Type of Internet Connection: DSL
Internet Connection Speed: No Idea
Date & Time: 7/16/2012, 9:40am HAST/HST (12:40pm PDT; 7/17/2012, 4:40am JST)
Frequency: 2. Sometimes
Character Name: Rayix
Race: Elvaan M
World: Asura
Main Job: Dragoon Lv.99
Support Job: Warrior Lv.49
Area and Coordinates: Abdaljs Isle-Purgonorgo, H-7
Party or Solo: Party, 2
NPC Name: None
Monster Name: None/Any
Steps:
Went to Brenner to check on rumors of Gungnir's additional effect misbehaving. Took myself (Drg/War) and my friend, Czephiroth (Pld/War) to Abdaljs Isle-Purgonorgo for a private match to test and record the defense down effects of Dragoon's abilities.
No additional buffs were used for this test, no food, no protect, no berserk/defender, no def+% gear to throw off the #s.
Base Defense: 554
Angon (no gloves): 443
Angon (Aug'd AF2+2 gloves with 5/5 Angon merits): 415
Gungnir (Lv.95 form) additional effect: 450
Confirmed just a few basic points:
Angon (no gloves) is a Defense-20% effect
Angon (with gloves) is a Defense-25% effect with 5/5 Angon merits
Gungnir's additional effect, reported to be -17%, is in-fact closer to a -18.7% effect on the Lv.95 Form
Onto the issue:
Gungnir would overwrite Angon, despite being the weaker effect. Angon could overwrite Gungnir's def. down, as expected, but Gungnir overwriting Angon is an error. The general rule for effects is that the stronger effect should always win.
It is not possible for Angon to have worn off prior to Gungnir's additional effect, as Angon is a static duration based on merits. With 5/5, that duration is 90 seconds, or 1:30, if not erased by an effect. We did no such effect to remove Angon early.
Gungnir's effect is nice for the times when Angon isn't up, but if you're fighting a large-scale monster in say Legion, you do NOT want to have the defense down effect downgraded mid-battle while Angon should still be in effect.
Please address this issue so that Gungnir's additional effect cannot take effect while a stronger defense down effect is active.