the elusive Facio Bliaut

[spamson]

has anyone really gotten a Facio Bliaut with both Refresh+1 and Cure potency+% on it in a reasonable amount of time? I have spent at least 50 1st echelon trophies attempting to get one with both augments. it really is quite tedious to exchange trophies all day, if someone could give me a ballpark idea of how much longer i have to suffer through this, it would be much appreciated.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

0/20 now, best I've gotten is a 7% with no refresh, most people I ask say it took them 50+.(Except for one bastard that took him 2...) Perhaps the drop rate could be adjusted a little? /whistful

[Neisan_Quetz]

6 tries for Cure Potency+14%, 20+ more tries for Refresh+1 and cure potency+7%, tried about ~15 more but stopped caring since I finally got pluviale (already had loldalm but was glad to be rid of it) and started to see if haste on bellicus pieces actually existed, 0/25 on those too... It's really random.

[Hoshi]

15 tries to get cure potency +13% and then I got bored. I have max trophies at all ranks but don't really have the interest to spam any more lol.

[Babygyrl]

it took me like 20 times to get curep otecny + 14% didnt bother trying to get one with refresh too.. no need for it with atmas and stuff.. or i use the af + 1 bod for refresh/stone skin if i need it now im trying to get the blm one with magic attack bonus + 5 but no luck lol

[Macrom]

I must have been one of the lucky ones, all though i did rotate from blm to whm body, in 8 tries for whm i got a few with refresh +1 and a few with cure potency 10% or higher but never on the same one. i was about to give up cause i got the blm that i wanted but figured meh one more trophy might as well have a last go, ended up with with Refresh +1 and cure potency 12% and something else stupid that i didnt care about.

[Ganukay]

Haven't really kept track, but I think I've turned in around 45 trophies. plenty with refresh, none with both cure potency and refresh. best i got so far is cure potency +12% i think. Don't really use it except when I'm using club for proc or solo meleeing

[Zerayla]

I'm tried at least 30 times, and haven't even managed to get anything better than Cure Potency +7%.

[Nacht]

Took probably 70 tries total to get an 11%, 1 refresh body for 2 separate characters. Upgraded one to +13% after a lot more tries, but tossed it into storage due to Orison+2 and capped cure pot without it.

[Mojo]

I've gone through around 50 tries and the best I got was cure potency +12%. wat

[Charismatic]

Not worried about getting both... I don't mind swapping to the bliaut on cures.

[Silvermane]

I got a cure +13% and conserve mp +3 which im happy with, just us the wait command and swap in a refresh body, it looks nicer anyway

[Bassclef]

It took about six 1st Echelon trophies, but I got Evasion +1, Refresh +1, and Cure Potency +11%. Been trying to get more trophies in hopes of getting at least Cure Potency +10% with Refresh +2.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It took about six 1st Echelon trophies, but I got Evasion +1, Refresh +1, and Cure Potency +11%. Been trying to get more trophies in hopes of getting at least Cure Potency +10% with Refresh +2.Refresh can only be 1.

[Baroka]

I went 1/12 for cure pot +14% and refresh +1 :o guess i was lucky

[Silvermane]

Wiki lists cure potency as upto 14% and refesh as 1-2, remember that with the release of Heroes of Abyssea there are now a range of items with 2/tick refresh blm and whm bodies +2 and smn horn +2 for example

took me 4 attempts to get refresh 13% conserve mp +3

the first time I was trading rank 1 trophes it was raining cure potency but a few weeks later hardly got anything, maybe Dominion status or NM status heavy affects the augments?

[Nacht]

Wiki lists cure potency as upto 14% and refesh as 1-2, remember that with the release of Heroes of Abyssea there are now a range of items with 2/tick refresh blm and whm bodies +2 and smn horn +2 for example


I've never heard or seen anyone get 2 refresh on the bliault. Ever. Wiki has a lot of bullshit. Always take stuff from there with a grain of salt.

[Bassclef]

Refresh can only be 1.

Darn, oh well :/

[Khiinroye]

Over 340 and I still haven't seen a 14% cure potency. Refresh doesn't matter since Bliault +2 gives 2/tic refresh (I've had this for a while, it is true); enmity and conserve mp (or spell interrupt) would be the best additional augments.

13% was around 130 trades or so.

[Dmer]

I have yet to get a cure potency + refresh body in one. I do have a +13% cure potency one without refresh which caps my potency even without Rescuer atma, so I am satisfied. A LS member got a +12% cure potency + refresh + enmity - body on the first try.

[Miiyo]

No 14% & refresh as of now. 12% is the highest i've seen with refresh. +1 refresh is meh with 20/tic refresh.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

No 14% & refresh as of now. 12% is the highest i've seen with refresh. +1 refresh is meh with 20/tic refresh.Life outside of abyssea dose still exist.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Getting refresh on the Bliaut doesn't really matter unless you're never getting any refresh body Whm can use and you desperately need to sell Noble's/Aristocrat's for some reason. It's a nice perk but all that really matters is the cure potency.

[Miiyo]

Life outside of abyssea dose still exist.

Life outside of abyssea requires a mp regen set. Refresh doesn't do much. Takes a good amount of time to get 100 mp with just regen. Orison Bliaut if anything if you want a refresh body piece.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Life outside of abyssea requires a mp regen set. Refresh doesn't do much. Takes a good amount of time to get 100 mp with just regen. Orison Bliaut if anything if you want a refresh body piece.Ewww, but it doesn't do anything for you otehr then rfresh.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Enhances Auspice does nothing now?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Enhances Auspice does nothing now?Waste of space for a spell that's never used. If it had cure+, then it would be useable.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Wait, why did I say auspice, meant Afflatus: Solace. Why are you not using auspice anyway, that annoys me so much when I'm not on whm, I can forgive the whm my lowman runs with since it's being dboxed.

[Nacht]

Ewww, but it doesn't do anything for you otehr then rfresh.

Orison bliaud +2 is the best curing body, assuming you have the other cure potency pieces. I don't know why you would think it doesn't do anything beside refresh.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Orison bliaud +2 is the best curing body, assuming you have the other cure potency pieces. I don't know why you would think it doesn't do anything beside refresh.Healing magic+20 and refresh doesn't surpass cure+10% and refresh. Which you can buy on AH.

[Nacht]

Healing magic+20 and refresh doesn't surpass cure+10% and refresh. Which you can buy on AH.

You can cap cure potency without a body piece. If you cap with other gear, then the bliault adds 0% potency, making it a worse curing piece than Bliaud.

22% Staff
10% Head
3% Neck
2% Ear
5% Ear
5% Hands+Feet
3% Back
= 50%. Although Augur Gloves + Mind feet is better than Serpentes' 5% Cure Pot.

And the Enhance: Affatus Solace is the important part, not the healing magic skill.

[Radio]

I have 12% which is just enough to hit 50% with my current set up. I've done around 25 whm bodies to get it.

[Limecat]

I've not counted my actual attempts, but I'm somewhere in the 45-50 range myself. My current one has curepot +10/conserve MP +2/enmity -1 for it's augments. I'm not sure how many more I'm going to actually churn through, since I'm getting sick of converting trophies and would rather just deal for the time being while finishing the AF3 +2 instead.

[Rioux]

After 10 tries I got 9% cure potency with refresh on it. 10 more tries later I got a 13% cure potency with no refresh. I keep both.

[Faule]

Over 60 tries and haven't seen anything higher than 7%.

[Ganukay]

Think I'm around my 60th try. New record:
Refresh+1
Spell interrupt -3%
Cure Potency +12%

[Medea]

I got mine first try with cure+12% refresh and -4 enmity :). After give away my HQ noble's i think i should be very greatful, didnt know it was rare till i saw this thread. Still ^^, it has an extra -4 enmity than Noble tunic, smn can use it too. Also got a hat with -1 avarta cost and - enmity first try.

[Aleste]

I managed to luck out on 5MAB literae coat first time.

Never any luck with the facio though.

[Avarice]

I fail to see why people need Refresh on a Facio Bliaut, period. You don't idle in it (that's what Noble's/Pluviale/Bliaud +1/+2 are for), you macro it in for cures, then take it off. If there's any true secondary augment you want in addition to Potency+13/14%, then it's Conserve MP; not Refresh.

[Miiyo]

Orison bliaud +2 is the best curing body, assuming you have the other cure potency pieces. I don't know why you would think it doesn't do anything beside refresh.
Not everyone feels the same. Yes you can use the other slots to cap cure potency (about 7or 8 i believe), but some want as strong a cure as possible. Cure potency is obviously the top priority to increase cure strength. Second to that would be mnd. 4 pieces for cure potency and the rest for mnd > 8 pieces for cure potency and the rest for mnd. If you don't have a 14% Facio, it's gonna take up alot of slots to get that when you could just be stacking up more mnd. The only benefit i see to having orison is an extra 100-200(if that much) stoneskin. You'll need it since your cures don't add up to someone maxing potency & mnd.

[Aleste]

Unless my math is wrong....

Base stats of 80MND, 70VIT, 361Skill

Main "Surya's Staff +2"
Sub "Reign Grip"
Ammo "Aqua Sachet"

Head "Orison Cap +2"
Body "Orison Bliaud"
Hands "Augur's Gloves"
Legs "Augur's Brais"
Feet "Marduk's Crackows"

Neck "Ajari Necklace"
Ear1 "Roundel Earring"
Ear2 "Neptune's Pearl"
Ring1 "Medicine Ring"
Ring2 "Aquasoul Ring"
Back "Sunbeam Cape"
Waist "Cascade Belt"

+1 Bliaud +51% Potency +71MND +15 skill
Cure V would heal for 1084 w/ a solace stoneskin of 325(.8)
Total : 1409

+2 Bliaud +51% Potency +71MND +25 skill
Cure V would heal for 1086 w/ a solace stoneskin of 380(.1)
Total : 1466

w/out Medicine Ring

Neck "Fylgia +1" - Loose 6 MND, gain 3% potency
Ear2 "Orison Earring" - Loose 4 MND, gain 2% potency
Ring1 "Aquasoul Ring" - Loose 10% potency, gain 7 MND
Back "Orison Cape" - Loose 6 MND, gain 3% potency

~ EDITTED SECTION ~
Notified that I counted the potency up wrong.

+1 Bliaud +50% Potency +62MND +15 skill
Cure V would heal for 1077 w/ a solace stoneskin of 323(.1)
Total : 1400

+2 Bliaud +50% Potency +62MND +25 skill
Cure V would heal for 1078 w/ a solace stoneskin of 377(.3)
Total : 1455

~ END EDIT ~

Switching Orison Bliaud for Facio Bliaut at best case scenario (+15% potency)

Body "Facio Bliaut" - Loose 20 skill, gain 15% potency
Hands "Healer mitts +1" - Loose 4% potency, gain 10 skill
Ring1 "Aquasoul Ring" - Loose 10% potency, gain 7MND

Facio 15% +51% Potency +78MND +15 skill
Cure V would heal for 1089 w/ a solace stoneskin of 272(.25)
Total : 1361

Facio should cure for slightly more (~3 actual hp in above conditions), although the loss of the additional solace stoneskin (~105 damage) is noticeable. There are very few situations when an augmented Facio would win out (melee, no cure potency weapons for example), but at least it makes for a very good 90 piece of gear at least until AF3+1(/2) body is obtained.

[Miiyo]

Body "Facio Bliaut" - Loose 20 skill, gain 15% potency
Hands "Healer mitts +1" - Loose 4% potency, gain 10 skill
Ring1 "Aquasoul Ring" - Loose 10% potency, gain 7MND

Facio 15% +51% Potency +78MND +15 skill
Cure V would heal for 1089 w/ a solace stoneskin of 272(.25)
Total : 1361


You'd have to change up a few pieces you have to make this work to it's full potential.
I was doing 1168 Cure V @ 47% Cure Potency (Because AF3+1 Head was only 7%). Basically, Facio is ONLY wearable as a main if you use these pieces. Staff 22 Head 10 Body 14 Hand 4. That gives you 50% and you have your rings, earrings, back, waist, legs and feet, all for MND build. If you do more cure potency pieces than 5, yes, I agree Orison would be better.

[Aleste]

If you're going along that way:

surya's Staff - 22%
reign grip - 3mnd
empty
aqua Sachet - 2mnd

orison+2 - 10% 10mnd
ajari necklace - 6mnd
neptune pearl - 4mnd
neptune pearl - 4mnd

Facio - 14%
augur - 4% 7mnd 5 skill
aquasoul - 7mnd
aquasoul - 7mnd

sunbeam cape - 6mnd
cascade belt - 7mnd
augur - 9mnd
marduk - 10mnd

Equates to : 50%, 82mnd, 5 skill.

Add onto base stats of 80mnd 70vit 361skill

50% potency, 162mnd, 70 vit, 366 skill

Cure V value : 1090 with a stoneskin of 272(.5)
Total : 1362

Still 104 less...

And on comparison, my cure V's can hit 1368 (hp healed, not including stoneskin).

[Merton9999]

5th trade: Cure +13%, Divine+1, HHP+1
~10th: Refresh+1
15 total, nothing with both on it.

I want Refresh on my Facio because Orison Bliaud is horrendously ugly. I guess Nobles is still OK looking, but makes me feel old.

[Momotarotaru]

20+ times got 2 times refresh +1.
and another 3 times with cure potency 7 7 9.

[Kimiko]

Took me around 75 odd tries to get a 13% Cure Pot Facio, but it didn't have refresh on it. Did manage to get Conserve MP +1 on it so that made up for it a bit. Still a darn good piece overall.

[Eldelphia]

My first cure potency briault had 10% Cure pot, refresh +1 and Conserve MP +2. I got that within 10 tries. Since when I've been aiming for a 13% Cure potency augment so I can change out my backpiece and have managed an 11% and 12% one. But its taken a LOT of trophies and neither of those last two have Refresh. That's fine with me, I'll idle in Orison's +2/serpentes etc.

[Makenshii]

I done about 25 got a few refersh with eva and magic eva, my best was cure pot +12% and 1 eva.

[Cursed]

cure potency +12%
refresh+1
mp recovered while healing +2

total tries to get that: 67

[Kitheren]

I got a 13% with no refresh on mine. I have been trading in my trophies but 13 is the highest I have got.

Honestly, in Abyssea I could care less about refresh on a body. I have an Aristocrat's coat if I need it. But swapping it out for a cure body is no big deal.

Don't seem to do much outside of Abyssea these days though :( Bleh.