View Full Version : I Knew There Was A Reason I Loved Sandra Bullock
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 03:02 AM
I mean besides the fact she's hot.:D
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/03/17/bullock.japan.donation/index.html?hpt=T2
Runespider
03-18-2011, 03:36 AM
Not to ruin your outlook or anything but her sending 1 million is like me or you sending $10.
Miera
03-18-2011, 03:41 AM
Not to ruin your outlook or anything but her sending 1 million is like me or you sending $10.
It really doesn't matter how much a person sends, hell she could have not sent any at all.
The fact that she is giving away some of her own money is nice no matter how much it really is.
Runespider
03-18-2011, 03:47 AM
The american red cross raised nearly 50mill, mass numbers of people donated. Praising one person that gave an amount of money that means nothing to them and chose to not make it anonymous seems kinda silly to me, obviosly being done for PR purposes.
To each thier own though.
Alhanelem
03-18-2011, 03:57 AM
obviosly being done for PR purposes. I think it's pointless to say things like that. Money donated is money donated, regardless of who did it or why.
TribalProphet
03-18-2011, 03:57 AM
The american red cross raised nearly 50mill, mass numbers of people donated. Praising one person that gave an amount of money that means nothing to them and chose to not make it anonymous seems kinda silly to me, obviosly being done for PR purposes.
To each thier own though.
She is often referred to as the most loved celebrity in the states after the past couple years. Trust me, she doesn't need to worry about building good PR. If anything giving her name puts pressure on more celebrities to step up. She chose not just to help, but to be a leader in getting others to help as well.
What's wrong with just being happy that someone donated $1M? Jealousy?
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 04:00 AM
Personally, with all the crap news, and not just out of Japan, I'm looking for things to be positive about. Especially, since FFXI was one of the ways to escape the crap of the world. And, Simon Cowell is organizing a "We Are the World"-type charity song.
http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979143800
Runespider
03-18-2011, 04:08 AM
She is often referred to as the most loved celebrity in the states after the past couple years. Trust me, she doesn't need to worry about building good PR. If anything giving her name puts pressure on more celebrities to step up. She chose not just to help, but to be a leader in getting others to help as well.
What's wrong with just being happy that someone donated $1M? Jealousy?
Whats to be jealous about? I'm stating the obvious, if a star offers a large sum of money and does not make it anonymous it's done for PR. The fact 1m is nothing to them pushes that even more, thats chump change for her. Just seems kinda silly to make a big deal over it when so many others have given more without a fanfare (compared to thier income).
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 04:15 AM
Since it's numbers being discussed, it's 1/125 of her estimated net worth.
Dallas
03-18-2011, 04:25 AM
Since it's numbers being discussed, it's 1/125 of her estimated net worth.
I think I can top that by searching my car for change!
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 04:27 AM
I think I can top that by searching my car for change!
Damn, how much is your car worth? Or do you keep a ton of change in there?
Myrrh
03-18-2011, 04:28 AM
I've had a massive crush on Sandra since I was like 12.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 04:31 AM
I've had a massive crush on Sandra since I was like 12.
I was never on set with her. But, I've never heard anyone who worked with her say she is anything but fun and genuine. Add to that she actually showed up to get her Razzie for worst actress. Now that is classy.
Dallas
03-18-2011, 04:31 AM
Damn, how much is your car worth? Or do you keep a ton of change in there?
Lol I meant I can beat 1/125 of my net worth. My net worth is pretty low since I just bought a house that depreciated.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 04:45 AM
Lol I meant I can beat 1/125 of my net worth. My net worth is pretty low since I just bought a house that depreciated.
I've never figured my net worth. But, with the market, home value dropping, lack of liquidity, and outstanding debt, I think that that fund may actually owe me money.
RAIST
03-18-2011, 06:07 AM
It may be 1/125 of her net worth(which includes all assets, like your home and cars)...it's 1/56 of her actual gross income. in comparison, that's 13 cents of every hour someone works for minimum wage, a little more than $5 a week, or over $250 a year for someone working full-time for minimum wage. I wouldn't call it breaking the bank by any means, but it's still a decent amount--especially to someone like me who has been on the unemployment line for a while. No matter how you slice it, it IS a substantial amount from one person.
Raist
Logical
03-18-2011, 06:38 AM
I've had a massive crush on Sandra since I was like 12.
Dito =) Glad RC is raising so much money for this.
We should hit up John Travolta. Bet he could set japan right.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 07:13 AM
I've had a massive crush on Sandra since I was like 12.
Dito =) Glad RC is raising so much money for this.
We should hit up John Travolta. Bet he could set japan right.
Is this a hint that you have a massive crush on John Travolta?
Helel
03-18-2011, 07:16 AM
xxxxxxxxx sorry I didn't see forum name for some reason O_o
I think it's pointless to say things like that. Money donated is money donated, regardless of who did it or why.
No Runespider makes a fine point here, and the reasons are important. Charity given annonymously because someone cares if far more noble than charity given publically to bolster your public image, and you should be able see the importance in those differences Alhanelem.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 07:23 AM
No Runespider makes a fine point here, and the reasons are important. Charity given annonymously because someone cares if far more noble than charity given publically to bolster your public image, and you should be able see the importance in those differences Alhanelem.
Actually, if I were the Red Cross, I would prefer her to give publicly. It gets more traction with the press. Even if you already have a lot of press, which the Red Cross does now. SB giving a bunch of money just gave the Red Cross more publicity, another story on the front page.
Actually, if I were the Red Cross, I would prefer her to give publicly. It gets more traction with the press. Even if you already have a lot of press, which the Red Cross does now. SB giving a bunch of money just gave the Red Cross more publicity, another story on the front page.
No I disagree.
This shouldn't be about a celebrity's public image or increasing the notoriety of the Red Cross. Charity should be about helping those in need, not the people donating the charity or the business distributing the charity - else it allows others to further selfish gains at the expense of other's hardships, and that's disgusting to me.
I suppose you could make an argument increasing the media attention to the Red Cross could make it a more effective outlet, but I'm not buying it. She should have given the money anonymously. The Red Cross has plenty of press, they don't need holywood celebs trying to ride on their coattails for good press.
Sides, it's already working - as this thread shows. Some person loving her already cause she donated money to a worthy cause. Trust me, i'm sure that's the effect she was after, and it's apparantly working out for her rather well lol
Pyrogir
03-18-2011, 07:36 AM
Deadmau5 posted up on his Facebook that he's going to put up his Diamond mau5head up for auction:
"Diamond mau5 to help Japan; In an effort to help with the relief in Japan, i will be donating / auctioning *the* diamonte mau5 head... and 100% of proceeds will go towards helping the people of Japan through this terrible time. more details on this soon! (just gotta setup all the logistics and stuff, but were all hustling on this)"
I <3 him as a person more for this.
Mattis
03-18-2011, 07:43 AM
No Runespider makes a fine point here, and the reasons are important. Charity given annonymously because someone cares if far more noble than charity given publically to bolster your public image, and you should be able see the importance in those differences Alhanelem.
OK retards, this is annoying me, do you really think the end recipients of this money give 2 shits if the person that donated it got credit for it or not?
Why are you bashing someone for donating a large sum of money? Is it in fact that you donated none? She only donated a mil what a shitty person she is.
Fact is she could have not donated and by your reasoning she would be a greater person because people would have assumed she did but didn't mention it so as not to get credit for it.
You are probably one of the people that praised SE for giving money too aren't you? Well you should but the fact is they gain more from it then good PR, they are in the affected area and so that money will be used to help there families as well as the nice tax break it will give them at the end of the year. This does not make it any less helpful.
Oh and BTW unless you have an employee walk in with 1mil cash I don't think it would be too easy to make a large donation like that without someone being able to find out where it came from. And like it was mentioned before, why does she need to do this for PR for? She already has a very respectable reputation and lets face it her looks and her acting get her roles not her acts of kindness, unless shes running for a public office that I don't know about. Even then I would vote for her based on the looks thing. The fact you heard about this will get other people to think about donating as well, even if its not to be outdone Japan still wins.
Everyone that donates a significant amount of money claims it for taxes, if for nothing else so they have more money to donate in the future.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 07:44 AM
No I disagree.
This shouldn't be about a celebrity's public image or increasing the notoriety of the Red Cross. Charity should be about helping those in need, not the people donating the charity or the business distributing the charity - else it allows others to further selfish gains at the expense of other's hardships, and that's disgusting to me.
I suppose you could make an argument increasing the media attention to the Red Cross could make it a more effective outlet, but I'm not buying it. She should have given the money anonymously. The Red Cross has plenty of press, they don't need holywood celebs trying to ride on their coattails for good press.
Sides, it's already working - as this thread shows. Some person loving her already cause she donated money to a worthy cause. Trust me, i'm sure that's the effect she was after, and it's apparantly working out for her rather well lol
Nope, already loved her. And guessing the Red Cross is glad you don't work on their fund raising board.
Zyeriis
03-18-2011, 07:56 AM
Why is there even an argument about this? Stupid argument is stupid. 1/25th of her fortune/net worth/whatever the hell you prefer to call it is still 1mil, and 1mil still got donated. Oh no! She wasn't anonymous! How dare she take credit for donating 1 million dollars! How dare she spark some level of thought about donating! How dare she give 1 million dollars that equates to 4,000 years of donating 1/25th of some one's minimum wage ($250 a year). /sarcasm
Thus, by my calculations she has helped about 4,000 people, at a minimum. How dare she :confused:
Stupid arguments get stupid sarcastic responses.
Nope, already loved her. And guessing the Red Cross is glad you don't work on their fund raising board.
Well that may be Randwolf, but her donating reaffirmed your love for her, least according to your post that is. So either way, she wins and got the effect she was aiming for :)
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 08:01 AM
Well that may be Randwolf, but her donating reaffirmed your love for her, least according to your post that is. So either way, she wins and got the effect she was aiming for :)
Maybe, and so did the Red Cross. I love symbiotic relationships.
OK retards, this is annoying me, do you really think the end recipients of this money give 2 shits if the person that donated it got credit for it or not?
Why are you bashing someone for donating a large sum of money? Is it in fact that you donated none? She only donated a mil what a shitty person she is.
Fact is she could have not donated and by your reasoning she would be a greater person because people would have assumed she did but didn't mention it so as not to get credit for it.
You are probably one of the people that praised SE for giving money too aren't you? Well you should but the fact is they gain more from it then good PR, they are in the affected area and so that money will be used to help there families as well as the nice tax break it will give them at the end of the year. This does not make it any less helpful.
Oh and BTW unless you have an employee walk in with 1mil cash I don't think it would be too easy to make a large donation like that without someone being able to find out where it came from. And like it was mentioned before, why does she need to do this for PR for? She already has a very respectable reputation and lets face it her looks and her acting get her roles not her acts of kindness, unless shes running for a public office that I don't know about. Even then I would vote for her based on the looks thing. The fact you heard about this will get other people to think about donating as well, even if its not to be outdone Japan still wins.
Everyone that donates a significant amount of money claims it for taxes, if for nothing else so they have more money to donate in the future.
Lol nice, you call me a retard then ask me why I am bashing someone.
I wasn't bashing her anyway, just saying it would have shown more class if she had done it anonymously, instead of turning it into a PR move. Charity should be about the victims, and when celebs come out and make it all about them - it can give the unsettling impression of them either trying to steal or share in the spotlight being put on the victims.
If you think i'm a retard for pointing this out, so be it...
I love symbiotic relationships.
I'm sure Sandra does also :)
Zyeriis
03-18-2011, 08:19 AM
Lol nice, you call me a retard then ask me why I am bashing someone.
I wasn't bashing her anyway, just saying it would have shown more class if she had done it anonymously, instead of turning it into a PR move. Charity should be about the victims, and when celebs come out and make it all about them - it can give the unsettling impression of them either trying to steal or share in the spotlight being put on the victims.
If you think i'm a retard for pointing this out, so be it...
The fact of the matter is, there would not be such a stupid argument in the first place had she done it anonymously. A man can dream.
The fact of the matter is, there would not be such a stupid argument in the first place had she done it anonymously. A man can dream.
It's not a stupid argument. A lot of Celebs do this, and it's a very valid debate to have.
Zyeriis
03-18-2011, 08:28 AM
It's not a stupid argument. A lot of Celebs do this, and it's a very valid debate to have.
Go back and read my post before that one.
Go back and read my post before that one.
I did read it, and I'm saying I don't think this is a stupid argument :)
Runespider
03-18-2011, 08:38 AM
Anyone giving money to this is doing a good thing, I just commented on the fact this was a PR stunt and cheapens the whole thing, same as some guy donating $10 to get in the good books with his GF to get some. The red cross still get the money to do the work there though I agree.
For many including mr "your a retard" man, the end is the only thing that matters, hence a drug dealer that ruined lives donating money is still a good person cause, hey they gave a lot of money. The reasons or means that lead to the donation don't make any difference at all as to comment on.
The point I was ultimately making was praising someone for doing something when huge numbers of others have done the same is silly, especially when what they are doing has less effect on them financially and was done for selfish reasons (to rework the idea they are a nice person, when in reality if that were truely the case it would of been done anonymously).
Tsukino_Kaji
03-18-2011, 08:40 AM
Besides, she doesn't give a damn. It was only for appearence/tax purposes.
Zyeriis
03-18-2011, 08:45 AM
I did read it, and I'm saying I don't think this is a stupid argument :)
Reasons don't matter. Results do.
Anyone giving money to this is doing a good thing, I just commented on the fact this was a PR stunt and cheapens the whole thing, same as some guy donating $10 to get in the good books with his GF to get some. The red cross still get the money to do the work there though I agree.
For many including mr "your a retard" man, the end is the only thing that matters, hence a drug dealer that ruined lives donating money is still a good person cause, hey they gave a lot of money. The reasons or means that lead to the donation don't make any difference at all as to comment on.
The point I was ultimately making was praising someone for doing something when huge numbers of others have done the same is silly, especially when what they are doing has less effect on them financially and was done for selfish reasons (to rework the idea they are a nice person, when in reality if that were truely the case it would of been done anonymously).
A thoughtful post and I agree with it. The end result - more money to the victims - is a good result, no matter the motives of the person giving the charity. Giving the money anonymously would have showed more class however - and turning it into a publicity stunt does cheapen the whole thing. But I do agree, the fact victims got more aid is a good thing, even if it was done for selfish gains.
Reasons don't matter. Results do.
I disagree with you again Zyeriis. Results matter, but i believe reasons do too, and is at the very least debate worthy.
Zyeriis
03-18-2011, 08:52 AM
Not going to repeat myself after this post, said debate is stupid and shallow. There was no crime or wrong-doing in the reason (no matter what it was).
Edit: If you're argument is now about what the reason truly was (pure speculation at best), I elevate my stance of it's stupidity, to an even higher degree.
Randwolf
03-18-2011, 08:54 AM
A thoughtful post and I agree with it. The end result - more money to the victims - is a good result, no matter the motives of the person giving the charity. Giving the money anonymously would have showed more class however - and turning it into a publicity stunt does cheapen the whole thing. But I do agree, the fact victims got more aid is a good thing, even if it was done for selfish gains.
You of course realize your assumption that someone who does something good publicly, does it for PR and selfish gains is the exact reason that some people on this forum think that those who in one sentence say they care about the Japanese and in the next one ask where the servers are do so simply to have people think well of them before they ask for something. And, it's a lot cheaper to say something than to do something. So, is it really surprising they reach that conclusion?