I've been hearing rumors that a level 75 cap is going to be put on abby

[Krystal]

Can anyone confirm this?

[Krashport]

This is how some rumors start, Why don't you just ask this question from the source where you're getting your info from, there is your answer.

[Tamoa]

This is how some rumors start, Why don't you just ask this question from the source where you're getting your info from, there is your answer.

This ^.

Besides, upping the minimum level to enter abyssea now, almost 2 years after it was first released, is indeed like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, like someone else so eloquently put it in another thread.

[Luvbunny]

Please understand that the whole idea of this game has changed, now it's insta speed level to 99 so you can go back and learn the job and do all the fun stuffs that has become the main bread and butter of this game. Gear collection is what this game has turned into now, not taking months to level just one job to 99. I know people said you don't really learn your job properly this way, but you never really learn the job properly by doing your old school normal party anyway, its the same whackaton mob everybody kungfu fighting, which will be very apparent when you take a bunch of aby newbie to NM events where they all wiped feeding tp to the mob.

[nyheen]

Can anyone confirm this?

if i was able to i would be like the first person to show it! if that happen so many people would be crying because they cant leech abby anymore.lol

[Daniel_Hatcher]

They wont do it now, people abused it enough. If anything the cap would only be added for the two new jobs, though very unlikely.

[Scuro]

yes in short, this is nothing more than a wish of people that want the olden days back in exp, it will never happen now. And even if it did, it would hardly prevent everybody already having almost every job at 99 by now. So talk about 4 years too late.

[Camiie]

if i was able to i would be like the first person to show it! if that happen so many people would be crying because they cant leech abby anymore.lol

/rolls eyes They could still leech 75-99 and 30 merits IF this rumor were true. They could still leech 1-75 outside Abyssea. Why are you so concerned about how someone else levels? You have a choice about who you play with. If you find that someone isn't up to your standards, you have options.

[Komori]

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

[wish12oz]

lol...........

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

When you can do this AFK it'll be useful. But when you can pay to stand around doing nothing, get the money back in cruor, and then cap skills in a shorter time than it'd take you to level otherwise it will never be done by the majority.

[Randwolf]

This ^.

Besides, upping the minimum level to enter abyssea now, almost 2 years after it was first released, is indeed like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, like someone else so eloquently put it in another thread.
I admire your ability to quote very intelligent people :)

[nyheen]

I don't think people realize that outside of abyssea, with chains and exp rings so commonplace now. One can get 1k EXP off of one mob kill once the chain builds, upward of 2k at a certain point.

My LS has recently taken to doing old-school parties for the fun and walk down memory lane. Jumped from 12 to 35 still in just one night. All the way to 50 and 60 in another day; now they're getting together AF.

this is what iam talking about. would be nice if people stop leeching/afking so it can be more pts going on in them camp area again. miss seeing 10-70+ camps all over the places

[Cowardlybabooon]

Would make empys pretty hard to get. They could just adjust experience rates instead.

[HimuraKenshyn]

if they add back a old school grind to this game that would be the nail in the coffin for me for sure. I still have nightmares about the climb to 75 in 2003/4 it wasn't fun or useful at all the game is totally different at endgame if you can't figure that out by now you need a doctor.

[tyrantsyn]

If you appreciate old school grind's here's what you do.

Go to Jueno, shout for member's for an old school ls and see how many ppl ask for pearl's. My guess you'll get a few people. Now I'm willing to bet most of those ppl that join have half there job's burn up to 99 already. Because of that you start losing member's early because key job's have already been level for group support and no one wants to gimp down for the sake of the party so others can level. Next, while the shell is grinding away hard everyday trying to get up to 99, every one else will be knee deep in end game content that will probably cut your attendance in half when your so call old schooler's cut out of your 6 to 12 hour grind party to go join them. You'll lose even more when there's not enough ppl to put a complete party together when other's have time. And even more will leave because the other guy's left and there's no one left to talk too.

Anyways no one would want the old school grind cram down their throat because some one else is all nostalgic. Please take this idea and bury it under a rock.

Thank you.

[Septimus]

if they add back a old school grind to this game that would be the nail in the coffin for me for sure. I still have nightmares about the climb to 75 in 2003/4 it wasn't fun or useful at all the game is totally different at endgame if you can't figure that out by now you need a doctor.

Amen.

Really, how many people who long for the "good old days" actually experienced them? I mean the 5k per hour, over a million XP to get to level 75, XPing in KRT or Moon "good old days". People who leveled before colibri parties and level sync didn't actually know how to play their job better, there were plenty of Red Mages full-timing Wise gear, people with terrible weapons, people with under-leveled or useless sub jobs, people who refused to use macros to swap gear for weapon skills, mages that didn't have all of their spells, etc. None of this is new, the only difference is that now people aren't limited to not knowing how to play one job, they have the freedom to now know how to play 5 or 10 or 20 jobs.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Can anyone confirm this?Starting your own rumor doesn't mean it's going to circulate.

[Zerich]

Starting your own rumor doesn't mean it's going to circulate.

bumped for truth

[Xantavia]

Amen.

Really, how many people who long for the "good old days" actually experienced them? I mean the 5k per hour, over a million XP to get to level 75, XPing in KRT or Moon "good old days". People who leveled before colibri parties and level sync didn't actually know how to play their job better, there were plenty of Red Mages full-timing Wise gear, people with terrible weapons, people with under-leveled or useless sub jobs, people who refused to use macros to swap gear for weapon skills, mages that didn't have all of their spells, etc. None of this is new, the only difference is that now people aren't limited to not knowing how to play one job, they have the freedom to now know how to play 5 or 10 or 20 jobs.

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

[Cowardlybabooon]

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.

[Kuvo]

Don't get me wrong I really did like old school leveling and the need for "almost" every job out there but times have changed and it's change that people are affraid of. I would like instead of bringing back the old ways maybe some new systems where all jobs can be used without segregation. Develop content that is lvl 75+ cap or even something like 90+ cap were get added benefits from skillchains and all the old style play but not as limited in choice. Either way there is no going back now like so many ppl pointed out already. Setting a cap at 75 would have been good when aby first came out but now is way to late.

[svengalis]

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

Kick the leechers problem solved.

[svengalis]

This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.

You'd level so fast the party wouldn't last that long anyway better off just joining a abyssea alliance.

[svengalis]

Don't get me wrong I really did like old school leveling and the need for "almost" every job out there but times have changed and it's change that people are affraid of. I would like instead of bringing back the old ways maybe some new systems where all jobs can be used without segregation. Develop content that is lvl 75+ cap or even something like 90+ cap were get added benefits from skillchains and all the old style play but not as limited in choice. Either way there is no going back now like so many ppl pointed out already. Setting a cap at 75 would have been good when aby first came out but now is way to late.

I guess you have never done VW...

[detlef]

This absolutely. Keep the insane xp but bring back the party. I think mobs with lots of HP that hit like a truck and give 1500xp each could work.Level synced VW, make it happen SE.

[Septimus]

I don't think anybody longs for the lower xp rate at all. Instead, it was more the co-operation of the party to kill a mob. Now, it seems that half of the alliance is leeching xp (either trying to hide or by arrangement with the leader) and everybody else is soloing mobs. Personally, it doesn't feel like a party at all, just a group of soloers that happen to be teamed up. And yet, while leveling thf, people still moved out of the way when I attempted to trick attack, so that part is the same.

People trying to leech in parties is nothing new. People tried it all the time before the days of Abyssea, the difference is that back then people had less qualms about actually kicking the person who was not contributing and getting a replacement.

Also, people didn't cooperate before Abyssea; I was convinced when I got THF to level 15 that the sound of Sneak Attack unconsciously makes people run circles around the mob, and this was in the CoP times. Ask any BLU that leveled the job the old-fashioned way if they think that the sound of Chain Affinity unconsciously makes melees hold onto their TP and use it to ruin the BLU's skillchains- I am sure that most would agree. This is an example of people wearing their Nostalgia Goggles, the "good old days" were rarely as good as people like to think they were.

[Kuvo]

I guess you have never done VW...

Oh didn't know VW was a system for leveling and EXP. As other endgame content you would be right but as for what i was saying is for normal exp leveling party situations. Endgame is endgame. I highly doubt anyone got a party together to go level up on Genbu.

[Caspin]

Nostalgia moments more than likely gone forever... Remember leveling Black Mage just so I could do some great Mega burst damage on Skillchains... Fun Times gone but not forgotten.

[Teraniku]

Nostalgia moments more than likely gone forever... Remember leveling Black Mage just so I could do some great Mega burst damage on Skillchains... Fun Times gone but not forgotten.

Yes the Dying art of the Skillchain + Magic Burst. Would be nice to see the system revitalized.

[Reiterpallasch]

I highly doubt anyone got a party together to go level up on Genbu.
Genbu gave like 10 exp, not the 20k or w/e the hell you can get from VW.

[Deathbeckons]

if youre hearing those rumors, you should probably stop talking to retarded people.

[Demon6324236]

If this were to happen, GoV partys would just become more popular, people would pay to leach in these partys I'm sure because leaders would let them, and almost nothing would change. GoV is what kills any chance of leveling the old style that was actually somewhat fun to level.

[Jackstin]

GoV is fine. It's a little easy, and not as fun as old style levelling, but then old style levelling was never fun in the first place; its only nostalgia which makes people think it was. If you really want to try old style levelling, DO IT. There's so many nostalgia junkies in game talking about how they'd like to go back and do Bhaflau, Khazam, Qufim, Vallurm, it wouldn't be hard. But no one ever does because they'd rather level the new way.

In reply to this thread. I'd love it if they changed the cap to 75 but they'd have to introduce interesting mid level, levelling opportunities. 1-15 FoV is fine, and 15-30 GoV is fine. But who really wants to just to GoV till 75. That really would be far less interesting than old style levelling.

[Demon6324236]

GoV is fine. It's a little easy, and not as fun as old style levelling, but then old style levelling was never fun in the first place; its only nostalgia which makes people think it was. If you really want to try old style levelling, DO IT. There's so many nostalgia junkies in game talking about how they'd like to go back and do Bhaflau, Khazam, Qufim, Vallurm, it wouldn't be hard. But no one ever does because they'd rather level the new way.

In reply to this thread. I'd love it if they changed the cap to 75 but they'd have to introduce interesting mid level, levelling opportunities. 1-15 FoV is fine, and 15-30 GoV is fine. But who really wants to just to GoV till 75. That really would be far less interesting than old style levelling.

Its far less interesting to put keys in boxes for 10 hours while everyone in your partys kills things, but people do it alot. I think if a lv75 limit was put on abyssea people would just move to caves for GoV and hang out there for a while.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Man if old school leveling is considered fun I hate to see what Boredom and pain and frustration is to these people.

[Zerich]

Man if old school leveling is considered fun I hate to see what Boredom and pain and frustration is to these people.

^my response when someone mentions an oldschool pt^

[Rosina]

they won't/can't the story line for abby starts @ 30. And one "mission" is to go in there and walk around. Plus there are fairly easy to do quests in abby. Such as the one in vunkrel inlet where u look @ a few eco places. (and its repeatable) If they cap it @ 75, they would have to change the cap you get the abby cs from.

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.

remember mobs outside of abby did get a exp increase. plus exp ring plus signet if in base world. plus add the fact fov and gov are on auto repeat so u can prob get the same amount of exp old school as u do in abby if u know good camps to kill fast. (and hey beats having a nm up ur bum or having to reget stones ever 3 hours)

[Tamoa]

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.



............what?

[Slaxx]

I actually had to create an account here to express how happy I am that you're back Rosina. Your particular brand of derp has been sorely missed from these forums.

Edit: This thread started with herp.

[Andreja]

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.

remember mobs outside of abby did get a exp increase. plus exp ring plus signet if in base world. plus add the fact fov and gov are on auto repeat so u can prob get the same amount of exp old school as u do in abby if u know good camps to kill fast. (and hey beats having a nm up ur bum or having to reget stones ever 3 hours)

You're kidding me right? If you've been to GoV and abby quite a bit, you can definitely tell you get allot more xp in abyssea than you do in GoV, even compared to doing leeches at Bostaunieux Oubliette. If it takes an hour to get to 200 xp per kill, then your party sucks balls. You know you can get up to 600ish xp max per kill in abyssea right? Tell me where you can get that amount of xp outside of abyssea at a fast rate. You should never have to re-time for xp parties in abyssea unless you have no-one getting azure lights or opening blue chests. And there are areas in abyssea to xp in where theres no nms such as the frogs at la theine or some of the various dom ops camps if you're so afraid of nms.

I'm probably being trolled right now, but if not, wow.

[Reiterpallasch]

Don't feed the trolls.

[nyheen]

remember mobs outside of abby did get a exp increase. plus exp ring plus signet if in base world. plus add the fact fov and gov are on auto repeat so u can prob get the same amount of exp old school as u do in abby if u know good camps to kill fast. (and hey beats having a nm up ur bum or having to reget stones ever 3 hours)

this is what people fail to understand. now when i was duoing at lvl 30-40+ fighting T and VT was getting like 300-500+ exp chaining. with just 2 people. no ring. + pages at eastern altepa, garlaige etc. now if that was with a full pt on IT like the way people did before. would go much better and fast. also iam doing something there, fun exitement!

what kinda fun is there when iam 30 and just keying/leeching all day long to hit 99?. "hey good pt man was FUN lolleeching and watching you guys fighting. best pt ever"

[Reiterpallasch]

now if that was with a full pt on IT like the way people did before. would go much better and fast.
Fighting IT mobs was never the best way to get exp, ever.


and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.
You can get 100k+/hr in a good GoV alliance, and an average abyssea party can do the same easily. You saw no difference, really? You're one of those people that thinks ruby light is bad, aren't you?

Edit: I know I said don't feed the trolls, but she's just sooo good at it.

[Zerich]

they won't/can't the story line for abby starts @ 30. And one "mission" is to go in there and walk around. Plus there are fairly easy to do quests in abby. Such as the one in vunkrel inlet where u look @ a few eco places. (and its repeatable) If they cap it @ 75, they would have to change the cap you get the abby cs from.

and tbh >.> i really saw no difference from 5K an hr pts - abyssea leeching. it took the same amount of time if not longer in abby to get levels. then a "old school" party. In most cases u start from zero and base on lights can be 30min-an hr befor hitting the 200 exp a kill mark.

remember mobs outside of abby did get a exp increase. plus exp ring plus signet if in base world. plus add the fact fov and gov are on auto repeat so u can prob get the same amount of exp old school as u do in abby if u know good camps to kill fast. (and hey beats having a nm up ur bum or having to reget stones ever 3 hours)

ever heard of capping azure and pearle?

[Rosina]

I just based it off my own personal experince 2 years ago. And in no way saying that is exactly how it is for everyone. So please refraine the "troll" tag when someone share their personal experience. I saw no difference in worm parties and gov hunting in gusgen mines or crawlers nest. Never been to the sandy dungeon. Well... for gov. I'm actually an easy to please person, I don't put much stoke in exp/er as long as I have fun I can careless. But I can kill even matched for 300+ a kill in a decent time frame.
And no I'm not a "anti ruby light" Infact I don't care much in the light gathering Only when I solo'ed my feet hunts. But really lable a person a troll for giving thair personal experaince is a bit silly.


edit: yes i know you can get 600+ a kill in abby. This us after you hit max lights. Which is per character not party. So a new party member starts off with 0 lights. If that party has capped lights they gather lights less. So for a new party member it can take time to get that 600+ exp a kill.

[Rosina]

ever heard of capping azure and pearle?

yup but you guys, I guess do not understand what I was trying to get at. You need to build lights, which can take time based on when you join said party. More so if they have been capped a while. I've been in parties wjere I had to beg for azure for TE. I've been in parties where it was a good 2 hours before I got that 600+ a fight. Only then to have to leave to re up stones and start all over. Again this is just MY experience which I know isn't the same for everyone. Which is why I said " I saw no difference".

Tbh I much rather party up outside of abby so I'm not worrying about Light, TE, or stones. I much rather Kill mobs w/o concern and talk to the people who are in my group. And just have fun.

[Rosina]

............what?

my personal experience... ~.~ you guys treally need to look at the main part what I said rather my experience with abby pts....

[Reiterpallasch]

If all of your abyssea parties have been crap, then it's pretty easy to single out the common factor between them all.

[Zerich]

my personal experience... ~.~ you guys treally need to look at the main part what I said rather my experience with abby pts....

it's still faster getting exp from chests than it is from 2k~3k page caps

[Rosina]

I love the assumption you guys have.... here is my abby pt experience. I join a party that has been around 3+ hours full capped lights, no one listening to anyone, and 3/4th of the party afk. That is a typical abyssea party. At least from my experience. I in no way stated my parties sucked. That was you guys. All i said was i saw no difference.

In any case what I stated is fact, no matter when you join an abyssea party or a gov burn party. it still takes time to build up to reach the max cap of exp. Where as if you say take 6 ppl go to a camp spam kill IT you can get decent exp. W/o waiting for the build up. This is due to the simple fact that exp on mobs got raised 100% across the board.
EP- 90-120 exp a kill.
DC- 140+ exp a kill
EM- 200+ exp a kill
T- 220+ exp a kill
VT 300+
IT 420+

this is base exp no ring no chain. I was duoing with my friend today in valkurm dunes at lvl 16. just on dc-t we got from 202exp-540(chained) per mob. and in the first min got total of 956 exp. (equal 1 page for 500 in gusgen)

[Rosina]

ran out of text room cuz i'm on my ps3 due to my brother laptop died thanks to my nephew.

so in short me and 1 other person killing 4 mobs in 60 secons got 956 exp. (well for me) that isn't a full page of mobs. with full page we got over 1K in mob exp + 475 for page complete. (took us about 3 min to complete a page + killing non page mobs for the heck of it)
so 5 min for 500 exp (roughly due to spawn rate)
or 60 seconds for 956 exp. >.>

[Shadowsong]

my personal experience... ~.~ you guys treally need to look at the main part what I said rather my experience with abby pts....

Hmmmmm who to take at face value; the vast majority of the community (including myself) pooling their experiences and averaging, or the "personal experience" of someone who hasnt been in Abyssea in 2 years, doesnt gear swap, and openly hates Abyssea and everything it stands for?
I reject your standpoint as invalid.

[Zerich]

Or you can just solo whichever Op/page in the heroes zones with 200~300 a kill (only growing) and an average of 3k per page. With mediocre to low gear and atma, you can rip through a mob every 30 seconds. I don't know why, but there's an overload of people doing the lower exp camps in [A], recently.

[Rosina]

Hmmmmm who to take at face value; the vast majority of the community (including myself) pooling their experiences and averaging, or the "personal experience" of someone who hasnt been in Abyssea in 2 years, doesnt gear swap, and openly hates Abyssea and everything it stands for?
I reject your standpoint as invalid.

actually last time i was in abby was 6 mths ago just b4 i quit.. But your poor insults pretty much make your point invalid if you think about it. cuz what does gear swap have to do with anything... I've ben playing since 2004... i could careless about vitural life reputation. I am just here to play a game, have fun, meet people from all over the world. digital items, time it takes me to level up, or being over powered for sake of such is not something i care for.

I was just sharing something OF two years ago. instead of 6 mnths ago. If i do not see a difference then I don't because I'm not looking for it as I could care less. that is my personal opinion.

[Rosina]

but may i ask what any of this has to do wuth the simple fact (the statement i made above my opinion) that SE can't raise cap entry on abyssea from the simple fact the cap is based on the story line... which incidently was over looked because people saw WHO posted. and wanted to pick apart their opinion to cause drama. WHICH is petty and not needed.

[Shadowsong]

I am just here to play a game, have fun, meet people from all over the world. digital items, time it takes me to level up, or being over powered for sake of such is not something i care for.
It doesnt sound like you are having much fun, and it also doesn't sound like you are playing the same game as the rest of us lol
Also, may I ask how it is possible to become overpowered in this game? Id really like to learn how to solo Providence Watcher

[Rosina]

@ shadowsong

Get on topic or don't post >.> your just harrassing me at this point, I hope you realise that.
Oh and incidently, I am having fun :) I've always had fun in ffxi. only reason for the breaks was due to money, not the game. Only thing i dislike if anything is how the community turned out. Things went from playing as a team, planing before fights/ dungeons, and fun parties where ppl talked/ had fun/ got to know each other/ made friends. To over kill in harrassment to play style, what gear u had, zerging fights and dungeons w/o any plan wiping and crying for nerf. (funny legion videos btw XD u think 7+ years of fighting said hnm woulda taught ppl not to zerg them) and mass leeching. no one really plays as a team anymore from what I see. They just solo in a group on who can kill the mob the first.
But out side of seeing that. I'm having fun. But really if you dislike me and my opinion, then ignore it. No need to constently harrasse me over non issues which where not always the norm.