Question about Seekers of Adoulin and JP PS2s.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I would like to know in what fashion will SE be distributing the new expansion so said PS2s? If it's a disk, I would like to also ask, why not make it region free?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Because it'd be in Japanese!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Because it'd be in Japanese!Simple update to fix.

[Joslyn]

Simple update to fix.

Ya know I usually would say no to this but this is a good idea. Since region lock was only done to prevent ppl from playing foreign dvd movies on non compatible players I see this as an idea I could get behind. Now if they don't have it happened it wouldn't surprise me

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Especialy simple patch fix since they are already relasing it in english on other platforms.

But realy. Reps, how is SE planning on distributing this for JP PS2s?

[Joslyn]

Especialy simple patch fix since they are already relasing it in english on other platforms.

But realy. Reps, how is SE planning on distributing this for JP PS2s?

It will be available in the stores, unlike here in the states were all ps2 games are on clearance or in the $1 bin at GS they still have places that sell new ps2 games.

They might even sell it in there actual store located in Tokyo

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Bump.

Do you know how they are are distibuting this yet?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Bump.

Do you know how they are are distibuting this yet?

It's already been answered: By disk, they still sell PS2 games in Japan, and Sony blocks things from being Region Free not SquareEnix.

[Dazusu]

Dog. With. Bone. Let it go.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

It's already been answered: By disk, they still sell PS2 games in Japan, and Sony blocks things from being Region Free not SquareEnix.Who answered it?

[Llana_Virren]

Who answered it?

Both the JP Developers and Camate via the English stream of the Vana'fest.

[RagingAvatar]

Indeed, PS2 games are region locked by Sony. There is no region free option for PS2 games unlike PS3 games.

[Gilraen]

And if you look at the importer sites, they do still make PS2 games in Japan. If a game doesn't need the latest, greatest hardware then developers usually go with more appropriate hardware over there, often at more reasonable price points. This is not the case outside of Japan where people just want to take all the moneys, and push developers to create on the best and latest hardware so they can charge the higher price points. Case in point, the new Rayman. That so could have been released on the PS2 with nearly no loss in quality.

[wish12oz]

Why dont you just important a JP PS2 and a get one of those aftermarket power adaptors so you dont burn it out plugging it into your american outlets and rebuy all of FFXI for the JP PS2, and set the language to English and play on that? Or you could spend less money and buy a PC copy of the game and play on that PC youre using to post on this forum and have better graphics and everything else that comes with using a PC.

Quit living in the past.

[RagingAvatar]

..and set the language to English and play on that?...

Because you can't do this.
Try being helpful rather than telling someone to play how you want them to.

[Gilraen]

...and have better graphics and everything else that comes with using a PC.
Believe it or not, I don't like how it looks on the PC. Admittedly, playing on the PS2 isn't that much better, but I've since upgraded to a 60g PS3 and it looks just fine on there. That said, this is all beside the point. The original post asked how it was being released for the Japanese PS2 and he's since gotten his answer. No need to jump in with snide comments that have nothing to do with the topic at large.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Believe it or not, I don't like how it looks on the PC. Admittedly, playing on the PS2 isn't that much better, but I've since upgraded to a 60g PS3 and it looks just fine on there. That said, this is all beside the point. The original post asked how it was being released for the Japanese PS2 and he's since gotten his answer. No need to jump in with snide comments that have nothing to do with the topic at large.

Clear and non-interlaced?

[wish12oz]

Believe it or not, I don't like how it looks on the PC. Admittedly, playing on the PS2 isn't that much better, but I've since upgraded to a 60g PS3 and it looks just fine on there.


Clear and non-interlaced?

How can you guys even compare PS2 level graphics to what you can do with the PC?
Here's some old PS2 SS's compared to some PC ones.

PS2
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/f849ad81ee479f32a89bb890e8936e81.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/f849ad81ee479f32a89bb890e8936e81.jpg

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/f06f42cedb169831a120285c29a5d1d5.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/f06f42cedb169831a120285c29a5d1d5.jpg

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/ba7755b4bd85993c474c32e7a7e6082b.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/ba7755b4bd85993c474c32e7a7e6082b.jpg

PC
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/e944b0b9d48e6115c0b0887ba6030392.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/e944b0b9d48e6115c0b0887ba6030392.jpg
(this one is not mine =3)

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/89b589e75c1f9329d34b56a4f8d76523.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/89b589e75c1f9329d34b56a4f8d76523.jpg

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/fa3aa524cdda327119395bf1f2863466.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/fa3aa524cdda327119395bf1f2863466.jpg

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/778f4d079c4aac4c65ae86cfc764bcd4.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/778f4d079c4aac4c65ae86cfc764bcd4.jpg

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/9d16117247f324332a16f1dbc626394c.jpg
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/9d16117247f324332a16f1dbc626394c.jpg

You guys are totally right, PC looks like trash and PS2 is AMAZING! oh wait.... thats backwards.

EDIT: All SS's are resized down by the forums, click the links to see them.

[Gilraen]

Again, off topic by a long shot. Further, I said I don't like how the PC version looks, didn't say a thing about the PS2 version being better looking. Quite the contrary, in fact, I having admitted to not playing on an actual PS2 anymore. I don't really get what it is you're trying to accomplish beyond trolling a thread inquiring about Japanese PS2 version distribution, I truly don't.

[Teraniku]

Actually they could get around the Region Lock by making the disc double sided, with The JP region on one side and the NA region on the other. I doubt they will do this, since it will increase production costs, but it could be done.

[RagingAvatar]

Actually they could get around the Region Lock by making the disc double sided, with The JP region on one side and the NA region on the other. I doubt they will do this, since it will increase production costs, but it could be done.

Apart from that SCEJ would never approve that (as they can't approve discs with a region code that isn't theirs on it) and therefore to have the SCEA codes approved S-E would still have to go through the publishing process with SCEA.
Basically, the same process as releasing it in America.

PS2 discs have codes that encrypt the executable on it that can only be signed by Sony and not the publisher.
To legally release a game on PS2 you can't go around the Sony processes.

[wish12oz]

Mod chips that let your PS2 read JP disks also exist.

But for the price it would cost you to get/have installed, and then import a ps2 disk from japan, you could buy a PC that runs the game better than a PS2 anyway, so theres no point.

[oliveira]

1- Modchips will prevent the game install disc from working.
2- The actual data on the US and Japanese discs for the Wing of the Goddess expansion (I own both) was (almost) identical.
3- The PS2 will not accept discs from wrong regions as it's not designed for that. Additionally DNAS (which would prevent a modchip from working with FFXI) will also serve as second regional lockdown.

Absolutely the only thing that keeps SE from releasing the expansion for NA market is the lack of interest by the customers or lack of distribution channels.

[bungiefanNA]

I would like to know in what fashion will SE be distributing the new expansion so said PS2s? If it's a disk, I would like to also ask, why not make it region free?

PS2 has no region-free designation code for discs, the disc MUST be locked to a region. It is being distributed on a disc in Japan.

However, there are toold to read the files from the PS2 hard drive and copy them to a USB device, so it should be possible to copy the new files from the expansion between a Japanese and NA PS2, and thus transplant the expansion, with a file check to fix it. If so, someone just has to upload the tool and the files to a server that you can pull it from and install yourself. It can be done with PC expansions already, and the file/directory structures are nearly identical.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

PS2 has no region-free designation code for discs, the disc MUST be locked to a region. It is being distributed on a disc in Japan.I own region free SE PS2 games. FFX for example.
How can you guys even compare PS2 level graphics to what you can do with the PC?
Here's some old PS2 SS's compared to some PC ones.I've actualy had the luxary of playing PC and PS2 side-by-side for years. The difference in not only graphics, but reaction time is immence.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

How can you guys even compare PS2 level graphics to what you can do with the PC?
Here's some old PS2 SS's compared to some PC ones.

I didn't, I stated PC was better.

Them:
Believe it or not, I don't like how it looks on the PC.

Me:
Clear and non-interlaced?

[bungiefanNA]

I own region free SE PS2 games. FFX for example.

No release of Final Fantasy X was region-free. The International version has an NTSC J designation on the disc and doesn't boot on a system with a different designation. You either have a modchip or a TEST/TOOL system that ignores the region lock. NA version has an NTSC U/C designation, and European/Australian version has a PAL designation.

Scan the disc and I'll point out the designation.