New Black Belt

[Demon6324236]

So incase anyone missed it, there will be a new black belt for MNK, because a belt with

DEF: 7 STR +7 Haste +12%
"Subtle Blow" +5
Physical damage taken -5%

just isnt good enough anymore. Any predictions on stats?

DEF: 10 STR +10 Haste +15%
"Store TP" +5
"Subtle Blow" +8
Physical damage taken -10%

perhaps?

[Gokku]

i doubt haste value will move , if it does ill be happy , 16% is more in line if they do more it

White : 1str
Purple: 3 Str 4% haste
Brown Belt: 5 Str 8% haste
Black Belt: 7 Str 12% haste Subtle Blow +5 Physical damage taken -5%
Sexy Elitist Belt: 9str 16% haste 10 Counter PDT-10%

Changed out SB to counter with them saying the newer monk 2hour is to give us 100% counter rate on normal attacks *aka useless unless EVERYTHING stops having "tp" moves as default attacks*.

[hiko]

an increases "Counter" attack would fit more with a ja that give 100%counter than counter rate..
also think some kick attack + might pop

[Gokku]

id love for it to hvae KA rate / dmg up or counter dmg or even better crit rate+3-5% so i dont have to worry about changing belts EVER for VS.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

It'll be Red Belt since it's the one higher than black.

[SpankWustler]

My prediction:

It's actually not a new belt, just a secret technique that Maat teaches you. It enables you to tie your Black Belt in such a way that it can be worn as the most horrifying undergarment ever. The Black Belt NPC is so grossed out by these actions that the quest he gives you for a new Black Belt is twice as hard.

He doesn't even give any other reason. It's just, "Do all this awful stuff because I think you are disgusting and your butt-cheeks look two severely undercooked loaves of Hawaiian bread. I don't care if you have leg equipment on, I know what's going on down there. Get out of here!"

My other prediction:

"Keeps gravity away from even the most ancient monk-junk!" Maat testifies. A multitude of cutesy pink hearts flutter above Degenhard's head as he hears this claim.

[Babekeke]

Sumo Belt!

Slow +20%, reduces movement speed, damage taken -50%!

[Mostfowl]

dont forget...

jp only!

[Llana_Virren]

dont forget...

jp only!

Um... what???

[Gokku]

they will either make the belt a side grade * +1 str -5 pdt and +5 sb* or they will make it OP as fuck either way i fully expect the quest to be a monster to complete.

MY BODY IS READY!

[Protey]

either way they upgrade it (I predicted it to be a red belt like a couple years ago when they did away with level 75 cap), what needs to happen for sure... you can see it on the character model! It needs to be some epic quest to obtain and very few should obtain (like in real life, there are VERY few legitimate red belts) and as such, it should be able to be seen by everyone as an acknowledgment of your uber mnk skills. The belt is the defining gear for mnk, it should be shown, to not show it is inappropriate.

[Gokku]

I doubt they will make it visible unless they added an Aura effect to monks who have it , aka a supa sayan style red lighting aura around me 24/7 so it can match the erection ill have with it on.

[Babekeke]

I doubt they will make it visible unless they added an Aura effect to monks who have it , aka a supa sayan style red lighting aura around me 24/7 so it can match the erection ill have with it on.

Eww, {Galkan Sausage}!

[MarkovChain]

str+8 haste +12%, because of balance. Pink belt.

[Psxpert2011]

It'll be Red Belt since it's the one higher than black.

Red Belt isn't a higher degree belt.


either way they upgrade it (I predicted it to be a red belt like a couple years ago when they did away with level 75 cap), what needs to happen for sure... you can see it on the character model! ...

Again, if you want red belt, that's fine with me but it isn't related to a higher degree than Black belt.

You can only master high levels in degrees on Black belt which was know to carry on to the 4th degree by some known masters. "Titles for teacher as Sifu and Sensei, which have a combined meaning of father/teacher, are used for third- and fourth-degree black belts."
Red belt is of course associated to only Judo masters but that's not a general justification in martial arts.

In Brazilian Jujitso founder/ owner/ head of the school (Carlos Gracie) was known to wear the red belt(to simbolize being the highest rank). I don't know why they do it but it's not all martial arts that practice the same ranking system.
livestrong (http://www.livestrong.com/article/196292-what-is-the-red-belt-in-martial-arts/)


str+8 haste +12%, because of balance. Pink belt.

Loooool, it would have to grant you special powers like, -100 enmity XD

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Red Belt isn't a higher degree belt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_belt_(martial_arts)

Says it is Red, or Purple, though still referred to as Black.

That said it's ridiculous something as over powered as the black belt is being upgraded at all.

[Psxpert2011]

If anything is possible, just ask the moogles! Monks can continue training and adding 2nd, 3rd and 4th degrees to their black belt!

...Or more Maat quest! Come on Maat(your older than dirt)!.

[Camiie]

it should be able to be seen by everyone as an acknowledgment of your uber mnk skills.

Somehow I doubt its acquisition will have anything to do with our skill at the job. It'll be yet another fetch quest with preposterously low droprates that requires 17 of your closest friends. SE just doesn't understand anything else.

[Babekeke]

Somehow I doubt its acquisition will have anything to do with our skill at the job. It'll be yet another fetch quest with preposterously low droprates that requires 17 of your closest friends. SE just doesn't understand anything else.

Quite true, more a recognition that you're part of an LS with the most relics/empys so are able to kill the content better to get your black belt. Personally I'd like to see it be a maat-style solo fight that you have to do on MNK. That is the only way it would show your 'uber mnk skills', yet it would likely still be a case of 'I took more potions in with me'.

[Camiie]

Quite true, more a recognition that you're part of an LS with the most relics/empys so are able to kill the content better to get your black belt. Personally I'd like to see it be a maat-style solo fight that you have to do on MNK. That is the only way it would show your 'uber mnk skills', yet it would likely still be a case of 'I took more potions in with me'.

What was funny back in the HNM days was that BB items would end up dropping to people who didn't have MNK leveled and no real intention of leveling it. Some eventually would and hit level 71. "Oh look BB items already in storage! I am teh uberz MNK rawr!"

I can't say much though. Although I did already have MNK to 75, it's not like I actually used my MNK to earn my belt. I was always BRD when we did HNMs. It didn't prove that I was a good MNK, it just proved that I did HNM a lot.

[Ophannus]

No belt today for any class compares with Black Belt, I wonder why they want to make an even better one seeing as it's already the best belt in the game. I would have thought they would give other jobs a similar boss piece of job specific equipment(not counting weapon) before they would upgrade black belt but alas. It'll probably be the Arise/Meteor for MNK I guess as they said it wouldn't be easy to get.

[Theytak]

New Belt proves that SE secretly has a hard on for monk that rivals their hard ons for sam and whm, due to mnk being the one job they got right initially, and have yet to significantly fuck up in any way, yet still manages to be one of the top jobs with almost no new, MAJOR additions. /conspiracytheory

[Protey]

New Belt proves that SE secretly has a hard on for monk that rivals their hard ons for sam and whm, due to mnk being the one job they got right initially, and have yet to significantly fuck up in any way, yet still manages to be one of the top jobs with almost no new, MAJOR additions. /conspiracytheory


I think it harkens back to the original FF, where Black Belt (the character, not the equipment) at the higher levels was the most powerful class and they want to keep up with that nostalgia.

[Psxpert2011]

I think it harkens back to the original FF, where Black Belt (the character, not the equipment) at the higher levels was the most powerful class and they want to keep up with that nostalgia.

Fighter >>> Knight
Monk >>> Master
Whm >>> White Wizard
Blm >>> Black Wizard

unneeded classes :P
Thief >>> Ninja
Rdm >>> Red Wizard

Imagine four people to make a party(epic!) XD

[Diasetsu]

Monk >>> Master


What is this garbage, is this what they are called in remakes?

It's Black Belt >>> Grand Master

[Camiie]

My main worry is that they're going to make this belt's acquisition require a style of gameplay that the community no longer supports. I guess that's one way to keep it rare, but I have never really cared about rarity or prestige. I'd rather the belts be all over the place than be something only a couple people on the server can ever realistically obtain.

[Fupafighter]

Only way to make this rare is make it a solo KSNM or something and make the orb like a legion drop off the harder mobs. Challenge the mnks to get it, otherwise it will be bought.

[Babekeke]

Only way to make this rare is make it a solo KSNM or something and make the orb like a legion drop off the harder mobs. Challenge the mnks to get it, otherwise it will be bought.

It will always be bought.

Cue: MNKs buying spots in legion alliances.

[FrankReynolds]

I just hope to god that it isn't synergy made from boob scraps.

[Fupafighter]

It will always be bought.

Cue: MNKs buying spots in legion alliances.

I'm saying the solo orb will be a drop from legion. Then they gotta go do a KSNM or something SOLO on mnk lol.

[Babekeke]

I'm saying the solo orb will be a drop from legion. Then they gotta go do a KSNM or something SOLO on mnk lol.

They'd still struggle to make this work. Either it's so hard that only a relic/emp/mythic mnk can solo it. Any less than that and everyone will be able to manage it with ease. Remember that every mnk trying this will be a black belt mnk. And even the gimpest of black belt mnks are real power houses.

[Fupafighter]

They'd still struggle to make this work. Either it's so hard that only a relic/emp/mythic mnk can solo it. Any less than that and everyone will be able to manage it with ease. Remember that every mnk trying this will be a black belt mnk. And even the gimpest of black belt mnks are real power houses.

No. A good mnk will have PDT, evasion, and a relic/emp/mythic. The rest shouldn't be obtaining this item then lol, as they have other things they should be aiming for on their job. What you define as powerhouse, is what a majority of the playerbase would define as gimp.

[FrankReynolds]

No. A good mnk will have PDT, evasion, and a relic/emp/mythic. The rest shouldn't be obtaining this item then lol, as they have other things they should be aiming for on their job. What you define as powerhouse, is what a majority of the playerbase would define as gimp.

So basically anyone who has a black belt and has spent 5 minutes at the AH then yeah? okay.

[Mirage]

My stat predictions:

10 str, 12 haste, 10 subtle blow, -7% damage taken, 5 counter.

I don't think they'll increase the haste rating, considering how easy it is to cap haste on mnk anyway.

[Fupafighter]

My stat predictions:

10 str, 12 haste, 10 subtle blow, -7% damage taken, 5 counter.

I don't think they'll increase the haste rating, considering how easy it is to cap haste on mnk anyway.
That's not the point. It helps open more gearing options, like more double attack/str to cap pDIF and shiz. And no, I'm pretty sure people with 90+ verethregna's didn't sit at the auction house. And twilight, dark rings augmented, and such aren't on the auction house.

[FrankReynolds]

And twilight, dark rings augmented, and such aren't on the auction house.

The only thing you listed that takes more than an hour or so to get is the E/R/M. Vera isn't going to win you anything other than a DoT contest and making it a requirement to spend between 200 and 600 mil on relic / mythic in order to upgrade is retarded on any level. I will agree that more haste could be useful in opening up other slots though.

[Mirage]

@Fupafighter

The belt is still undeniably better than the old belt, and I think those extra stats would be enough to make people care. Of course, it is far from as great an upgrade as brown->black is, but I think such an increase in power is unrealistic to expect.

On second thought though, it wouldn't surprise me if the belt got something like 1-2% more haste. More than that however, would surprise me.

[Diasetsu]

That's not the point. It helps open more gearing options, like more double attack/str to cap pDIF and shiz. And no, I'm pretty sure people with 90+ verethregna's didn't sit at the auction house. And twilight, dark rings augmented, and such aren't on the auction house.

What exactly would it allow for better gearing options? Mustela Gloves? With Tenryu+1 or Nomkhapa you are already at 13-14 haste before BB. Anymore haste is worthless as is.

[Fupafighter]

Maybe if they add more haste onto Bbelt, they could come out with some nice multi attack legs to replace it. What other options do they have to enhance our gear except give more haste in slots and add more stats in other slot lol?

[Fupafighter]

I just want something special for a job that actually requires skill and luck to get. Via like you know a solo KSNM orb that drops off hall 3 of legion that only a solo mnk can go into with the orb. Problem is they can't implement a fight that would actually be a challenge lol.

[Babekeke]

[Waist] All Races
DEF: 7 STR +7 Haste +12%
"Subtle Blow" +5
Physical damage taken -5%
Enchantment: Costume
Lv. 99 MNK
<1/1 0:30/[24:00:00, 0:30]>

Costume of course, is Maat

[Mirage]

Best idea in the thread. Just allow the costume to be used outside of town.

[hiko]

[Waist] All Races
DEF: 7 STR +7 Haste +12%
"Subtle Blow" +5
Physical damage taken -5%
Costume
Lv. 99 MNK
Costume of course, is Maat

not enchant, full time effect when equiped

[Littlefoot]

heck, i cant even get the black belt.

[darkhorror]

If they make a new black belt it needs to ignore the gear cap on haste.

[Mirage]

Nope, it doesn't. Plenty of ways to improve Black Belt without even changing the haste.

[Keyln]

I just want something special for a job that actually requires skill and luck to get.

No. Nononono. Nonononononononono.

Nonononononono No no no no! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6EA8GALUU)

[Urat]

Nope, it doesn't. Plenty of ways to improve Black Belt without even changing the haste.

Add "Enhances martial arts" to it to such a degree it makes it worthwhile using. Or something that just increases DPS on par with pieces like thaumus body or windbuffet belt.

Quadruple attack, triple attack, martial arts, +dmg of some kind, enough to make it wortwhile.

You could honestly put 25% haste on the belt and it would still be meh. So much incredibly good tping equipment also has haste on it, even if you have BB at 25% haste youd still probably find the optimal TPing build would just have you wearing it and a few other pieces of gear that ALSO have haste and stuff like double attack and etc, resulting in monks walking around wearing 30~35% haste in gear, and working out to optimal DPS anyways.

Haste is definitly NOT what BB+1 needs. Stick quadruple attack+a lot on it and everyone should be happy.

[hiko]

H2H skill +n
enhance kick attacks

n is same as on a weapon of the same ilvl than the new BB
enhance kick attacks: base kick+h2hskill*.22)

(mixed reply for the two thread)

[FrankReynolds]

In light of the new gear updates, it should get H2H skill +242, Guard Skill + 242, Magic Evasion +242, Kick Attacks +10 and damage taken -10%.

LOL

[Toioiz]

It would need to be better than the windbuffet belt for most to even consider it, and gear haste that doesn't go over the cap isn't going to do that.

[Demon6324236]

With all of the Haste gear we have now with insane stats to the point of being able to cap without any sacrifice at all off of just base gear, this belt has next to no hope of being useful once they update it really. They have to do something to make it worth while like Martial Arts, DA/TA/QA, a special bonus only it provides, or something else, because at this point Black Belt is completely worthless so far as I know(can cap Haste in a PDT Hybrid set without it even so far as I know) which is sad. At a time this belt sounded really nice, now, it seems like its only a lost cause because unless SE completely overpowers it, or redesigns its stats completely, it wont matter.

[Umichi]

So basically anyone who has a black belt and has spent 5 minutes at the AH then yeah? okay.

5 mins at the AH doesn't buy you a spot into legion... or put you into anyspot to fight delve monsters.. yep real powerhouses by skilled players standards..

[Kriegsgott]

Haste dosn matter anymore

Material Arts
Counter
Kick Attack's
Guard
Physical dmg-
Stats

i would like to see lots of these stats get added to our new BB

[Demon6324236]

Haste dosn matter anymore

Material Arts
Counter
Kick Attack's
Guard
Physical dmg-
Stats

i would like to see lots of these stats get added to our new BBThe sad thing is, so far as I know, all of those stats are useless in high buff situations/against most deadly targets, or unlikely.

Martial Arts isn't bad, but it effects the delay reduction cap, which means in any situation your getting a lot of buffs that's not really doing anything.

Counter is bad for the same reason, Counter is cool and all but since a great deal of mobs use TP moves as normal attacks, even normal mobs like Mata types and Mantis types, so giving more of that would be nice but it would become worthless against most hard targets anyways.

Kick Attacks from what I am told are also very weak now by compare to punches, so much so that the stat on Black Belt wouldn't do much either anyways, however if I'm wrong then obviously it has a place, but I don't know.

Guard has the same issue as counter, any TP-only mob would hit right through it I believe, that and I think it has a crap low cap rate, like 20%.

PDT, sounds nice, but again, we can cap PDT, or at least nearly cap it, with Oatixur, the Otronif Set with augments, Wiglen Gorget, Darkness Earrings, Dark/Defending Ring/s, and Shadow Mantle. While your talking about a lot of hard to get things, specific augments on Otronif, Oatixur, and Dring, you have to think that the new Black Belt will be hard to get too, possibly something like trading in the KI for all Delve Bosses or some such, not an easy task itself. If so, people would be more likely to take this path I would think, since you would end up walking away with more Defense, and thus, less damage taken most likely anyways, but that also depends on future gear so nothing is set in stone.

Stats are possible, but its unlikely to see it come anywhere near the gear if that's what you mean, since Stats like STR & DEX are only inflated to match item levels, and no accessories have item levels, to make BB have something like +20 everything would be like I said above, completely overpowered.

[Kriegsgott]

I get your point and you ar right....
but i was focusing on the usually MNK stats which just died after SoA

[Reaper]

maybe it will follow the geometric progression of 16% haste 12 str, etc etc but with the addendim that the haste on it specifically breaks the gear haste cap? like how aegis breaks the mdt cap, burtgang breaks the pdt cap and spharai breaks the counter cap? although, 16% gear haste above the 25% cap might be OP considering the somewhat exponential growth haste has... then again, depending on the difficulty to acquire it might be appropriate, and windbuffet would still be theoretically better with HF up unless it breaks the 80% delay reduction cap as well... or had some other new stats on it

[Reaper]

Guard has the same issue as counter, any TP-only mob would hit right through it I believe, that and I think it has a crap low cap rate, like 20%.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6orP8M_nG8

[Demon6324236]

I stand corrected, Guard seems like a viable thing, though the skill would have to be a lot so it actually makes a difference on guard rate against higher level targets, since I assume it works under a similar principal as Evasion or Parry, where on high level targets they almost never go off.

[Kriegsgott]

I stand corrected, Guard seems like a viable thing, though the skill would have to be a lot so it actually makes a difference on guard rate against higher level targets, since I assume it works under a similar principal as Evasion or Parry, where on high level targets they almost never go off.

I guess thats where oat makes the difference you know?
oat + capped guard = 649

[FrankReynolds]

5 mins at the AH doesn't buy you a spot into legion... or put you into anyspot to fight delve monsters.. yep real powerhouses by skilled players standards..

The guy implied that having a BB doesn't mean that you are a good monk, but having a R/M/E and eva / pdt- set does. I have an eva/PDT- set and enough gil to build a relic or on my mule (monk level 1). Skillz yo!

Legion is largely irrelevant and I'm not sure what delve has to do with this either...

[Demon6324236]

I guess thats where oat makes the difference you know?
oat + capped guard = 649Right but that's Oats, my point was that adding Guard skill to the new Black Belt wouldn't do anything unless it was a large number itself. I don't know that Guard even accounts for much in the case of NMs like Tojil, I never go as MNK for them, only RDM, but if it does then the Guard skill would still have no real effect. If you do not Guard often on something like Tojil even with Oats though, then it could have a use so long as the Guard amount is high enough, but since there is no item level on it, I doubt it will get such a high level of skill on it.

[Kriegsgott]

Right but that's Oats, my point was that adding Guard skill to the new Black Belt wouldn't do anything unless it was a large number itself. I don't know that Guard even accounts for much in the case of NMs like Tojil, I never go as MNK for them, only RDM, but if it does then the Guard skill would still have no real effect. If you do not Guard often on something like Tojil even with Oats though, then it could have a use so long as the Guard amount is high enough, but since there is no item level on it, I doubt it will get such a high level of skill on it.

tbh i never wanted to Guard Tank Tojil so i'm fine if this wont happen even if SE consider some or all of my upgrade ideas!
i guess we get 1 or more suprises as soon the other "Nakuals" or whatever the ar called coming out with new shiny equip and we ar missing 2 Delve boss NMs if i'm correct just had to catch up in SoA still working on a lot quests but i have to agree just took a look at my guard it sucks now but still happen !

[Demon6324236]

No matter if its Tojil you want to fight or not, Guard skill itself has to be given in a high enough amount on Black Belt for it to change things enough to matter. If I cap rate already fighting Fluffy Sheep outside of Adoulin in Ceizak, then the Belt does nothing for me no matter how much skill it has so far as guarding goes, I cap already. At the same time, if I'm fighting Tojil, and I have a floored rate for guarding, and it gives me 10 skill which does not change my floored rate, then again, it does nothing for my guarding. Now if it gives 100 Guarding, that could make the difference between a floored, like, 5% rate, or a nice 20~30% rate. The thing was if its to small a number, the guard will not be any sort of deciding factor in its use really. :x

[Kriegsgott]

No matter if its Tojil you want to fight or not, Guard skill itself has to be given in a high enough amount on Black Belt for it to change things enough to matter. If I cap rate already fighting Fluffy Sheep outside of Adoulin in Ceizak, then the Belt does nothing for me no matter how much skill it has so far as guarding goes, I cap already. At the same time, if I'm fighting Tojil, and I have a floored rate for guarding, and it gives me 10 skill which does not change my floored rate, then again, it does nothing for my guarding. Now if it gives 100 Guarding, that could make the difference between a floored, like, 5% rate, or a nice 20~30% rate. The thing was if its to small a number, the guard will not be any sort of deciding factor in its use really. :x

with all the insane gear around i dont mind having +100 or even +200 Guard on this belt or a 10-20%+ counter or 5-10% Martial Arts or even DMG tagen-10% instead of -5% phys its all open i'm just saying i want the usually MNK stats on it even Kick Attacks !

[Demon6324236]

I agree with you, I am just trying to point out why I think it will still end up messing up. Like I said, its not an item level piece of gear because its an accessory, so while I am sure it will be powerful, I doubt it will be on par with other Adoulin gear so far as how strong it is on stats, be it guard skill, STR, or so on. Its for that reason I think MNK specific stats like MA, KA, Counter, Guard, and PDT, are not going to cut it, and why they have to add on something like Triple or Quad Attack for it to be a competitive piece again for the job.

By all means, if they can make it good and worth using while at the same time keeping it true to MNK, with mostly MNK specific stats like those listed, then I would be more than happy to have that, but I just don't see those stats making it good enough to truly be great, or above Windbuffet.

[Danita]

Here is the belt that every monk would love, that would inspire many to acquire it, and which fits with the themes of our job.

Change Defense 7 to: 70.
Change Physical Damage Taken -5% to: Damage Taken -5%.
Change Subtle Blow +5 to: Counter +5
Change Haste +12% to: Quick Strike +12% (12% chance that next combat round delay is as if we have 100 fists active)
Change STR +7 to: Enhances Kick Attacks (Treats kicks as if we are equipping kick boots with a D = main weapon)

So final stats:
Black Belt Def: 70
Damage Taken -5%
Counter +5
Quick Strike +12%
Enhances Kick Attacks

[Demon6324236]

Yep, that would do the trick.

[Kriegsgott]

Here is the belt that every monk would love, that would inspire many to acquire it, and which fits with the themes of our job.

Change Defense 7 to: 70.
Change Physical Damage Taken -5% to: Damage Taken -5%.
Change Subtle Blow +5 to: Counter +5
Change Haste +12% to: Quick Strike +12% (12% chance that next combat round delay is as if we have 100 fists active)
Change STR +7 to: Enhances Kick Attacks (Treats kicks as if we are equipping kick boots with a D = main weapon)

So final stats:
Black Belt Def: 70
Damage Taken -5%
Counter +5
Quick Strike +12%
Enhances Kick Attacks

looks nice but i'm guessing about another high value for H2H skill maybe ?

[Ophannus]

Change Haste +12% to: Quick Strike +12% (12% chance that next combat round delay is as if we have 100 fists active)

You mean a stat that makes you instantly attack again after your current attack round? Wouldn't that just be more or less Triple Attack/Double Attack+12?

[Psxpert2011]

I don't have a Black Belt. I would want one if I get help.
If it was up to me, I'd leave it up to the moogles for Magian Mog trials.

NQ:DEF: 7 STR +7 Haste +12%
"Subtle Blow" +5
Physical damage taken -5%

HQ:DEF: 7 STR +7 Haste +15%
"Subtle Blow" +10
Physical damage taken -10%
Counter +50%
Counter attack +25%(percentage of base attack0

Now, anyone off Sylph server care to team up for the BB quest?

[FrankReynolds]

You mean a stat that makes you instantly attack again after your current attack round? Wouldn't that just be more or less Triple Attack/Double Attack+12?

Sort of, except that triple / double attack could still proc on these hits, so it's even better.

[Kuroganashi]

won't need Haste on new BB but DA+ TA+ QA+ be nice, Counter too , PDT-10% be awesome (even tho most of us already cap anyways)

only benefit i see would be DA TA QA / Counter / STR+20 DEX+20 Other than that , u better off with Windbuffet Belt (TA / QA) for DD-ing due to skirmish armor + Thaumas being cap haste already.

[DrWho]

DEF: 10 STR +20 Haste +25%
"Store TP" +15
"Subtle Blow" +18
Physical damage taken -20%
accuracy 25
Call it the Bruce Lee Belt in honor of him

[Demonjustin]

I think at this point, the belt might just have Haste II +5% or something like that. A haste amount that breaks the cap since it's so easy to hit as it is, it's nothing new since they're releasing all kinds of II stats that break caps like PDT, MDT, BP, and so on.

[FrankReynolds]

In light of the fact that almost every piece of 99-119 gear has enough haste on it to cap gear without any belt at all, they need to add some other super beefy stats. More haste won't help much unless it breaks the gear cap.

Even if it broke the gear cap, it wouldn't be useful in full buff situations, which is where people who collect this sort of stuff tend to spend their time.

[Babekeke]

Might have PDT II on it though

[Camiie]

I'm waiting for them to come along and say they never promised us a new Black Belt.

[Gwydion]

I'd love to see a new iLvL black belt. ...Maybe one that requires all 6 delve boss KIs?

[Ethereal]

Fighter >>> Knight
Monk >>> Master
Whm >>> White Wizard
Blm >>> Black Wizard

unneeded classes :P
Thief >>> Ninja
Rdm >>> Red Wizard

Imagine four people to make a party(epic!) XD

What is this garbage, is this what they are called in remakes?

It's Black Belt >>> Grand Master



You never played Final Fantasy I ??

Edit: also nice necrobump Gwydion

[Gwydion]

You never played Final Fantasy I ??

Edit: also nice necrobump Gwydion

I didn't want to start a new thread when a long-running one already existed. Besides Camate has necro-bumped a few older threads with updates from the dev team. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Bahamut]

i just got my Black Belt today!

I am so happy, but sad at the same time.... I came here to find... this!

When is the NEW belt coming and what is it going to be like?????

My belt spent more time and gil then a relic so "IT BETTER BE GOOD!"

/cheers!

[Bahamut]

One last thing... Please make the next black belt very challenging but obtainable through a solo path as well, even if it takes forever!!!

I love playing solo, so plz give me a solo pathway as well.

NEW BELT, SOLO PATHWAY OPTION PLEASE!

[DrWho]

DEF: 25 STR +15 Haste +20%
"Store TP" +15
"Subtle Blow" +18
damage taken -10%
Accuracy + 100

[MiriOhki]

Here's a thought. The new Ambuscade armor is pretty decent, but lacking in haste. If the next update or two gives Monk some badass armor that just happens to be lacking in haste, perhaps the classic Belt could come back into vogue? A high Att/Acc set would be particularly nasty, I would think.

[Gwydion]

Almost a year has passed since I necro'ed this thread...and no response from SE. This is just making me sad. It's a shame that more quests like Black Belt aren't added for the current version of FFXI. Imagine folks being invigorated by a new fetch quest that requires you to obtain 3 rare boss drops to obtain an uber piece of JSE armor.

/me sighs. :(