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Hasendon
06-24-2012, 03:14 PM
In regards to relic weapons, are there any plans to make dancers able to wield a Mandau? The same question applies to scholars and their ability to use a Claustrum and/or Mjollnir.

This one may be jumping the gun, but are there plans to allow the new jobs (from Seekers of Adoulin) to wield already existing relic and/or empyrean weapons? Will there be new mythic weapons for these jobs as well?

Teraniku
06-25-2012, 03:41 AM
In regards to relic weapons, are there any plans to make dancers able to wield a Mandau? The same question applies to scholars and their ability to use a Claustrum.

This one may be jumping the gun, but are there plans to allow the new jobs (from Seekers of Adoulin) to wield already existing relic and/or empyrean weapons? Will there be new mythic weapons for these jobs as well?

Honestly, I can see them changing Empyreans to allow the new jobs to use them, but the deal with Mythic is that there was a weapon for each job. So to add them they'd need to add 2 specific weapons to Nyzul Isle to get the new Mythics, if they are added. The Relic weapons won't be modified, since the new ToAU jobs or the WotG jobs were never added to any of the relic weapons.

-They may change their mind on this, but so far, the relic weapons have been pretty locked in on who can use them.

Hasendon
06-25-2012, 11:18 AM
The Relic weapons won't be modified, since the new ToAU jobs or the WotG jobs were never added to any of the relic weapons.

-They may change their mind on this, but so far, the relic weapons have been pretty locked in on who can use them.

My mistake. I forgot to mention ToAU jobs and relics in the original post; I didn't mean to exclude them. Also, just because they haven't changed them doesn't mean they won't (or shouldn't, in my opinion).

I just see it as a little bit of a continuity issue (I think those are the words I'm looking for). My reasoning is that all other equipment changes to reflect the times, should end game weapons (aside from job specific ones) be stuck in the past?

Raksha
06-25-2012, 01:56 PM
If anything, SCH would be added to Mjollnir. Since SCH is on Molva Maul but not Chthonic Staff.

Ophannus
06-25-2012, 02:24 PM
Every job is able to wield an 'ultimate weapon' so if the new jobs cannot use a relic or empyrean(likely) we'll probably be seeing a 4th generation of ultimate weapons. Relics, Mythics, Empyreans and get ready...I'm calling it now, you've seen it here first... Fable Weapons!

Hasendon
06-26-2012, 07:30 AM
If anything, SCH would be added to Mjollnir. Since SCH is on Molva Maul but not Chthonic Staff.

I'd say my point still stands. Just make every job able to use one of each of the end game weapon types.


Every job is able to wield an 'ultimate weapon' so if the new jobs cannot use a relic or empyrean(likely) we'll probably be seeing a 4th generation of ultimate weapons. Relics, Mythics, Empyreans and get ready...I'm calling it now, you've seen it here first... Fable Weapons!

They still haven't used "Legend" or "Legendary," but the thing that sets relics apart from the other weapon types is that each one has the chance to deal x2-x3 (or something like that) damage on an attack.

Twille
06-27-2012, 05:41 AM
What this game really doesn't need is another version of an "end-game" weapon/armor. Unless the new pieces are significantly stronger/better than existing pieces. Trying to keep extremely outdated gear relevant doesn't do anything but create more of a hodge-podge of junk. (in my opinion)

Hasendon
06-28-2012, 07:26 AM
Honestly, I can see them changing Empyreans to allow the new jobs to use them, but the deal with Mythic is that there was a weapon for each job. So to add them they'd need to add 2 specific weapons to Nyzul Isle to get the new Mythics, if they are added. The Relic weapons won't be modified, since the new ToAU jobs or the WotG jobs were never added to any of the relic weapons.

-They may change their mind on this, but so far, the relic weapons have been pretty locked in on who can use them.

A thought occurred to me since my last post. With mythic, they did add SCH and DNC weapons to Nyzul. Looking at relics, all jobs (ToAU and WotG included) get their relic armor from Dynamis, yet the newer jobs are absent from the weapons that you can obtain there. Again, just what I think is a flaw in either design or logic.