So it looks like we're getting a new expansion or addon (pics. inside)

[Chilloa]

Don't know if this has been posted here or not. But I found this posted on another forum, what do you think?

http://wilddragonchase.blogspot.sg/2012/06/ffxi-bgblog-mystery-of-rom9.html

[Zumi]

That was found out a few days ago on BG, where someone on their dat mined the rom9 folder on the test server client. Someone on there pointed out the name might be Blood of Chaos, the only other name SE trademarked recently was Drakerider.

That's kinda sloppy on SEs part to but a bunch of new zone files on the test server.

[Monchat]

Don't get your hopes too high. Wait for an annoucement at vanafest, I mean, just because something is in the dats of the test server does not mean it will go live. There were many items/spells/zones etc that had been in the real game's .DATs and were never released. Altough I think a major expansion (or even a mini expansion abyssea style) would breathe more life in the game, after the shitty year that 2011-2012 have been as far as content go (old content rehash and failure at it mostly).

[Kaisha]

Wait for an annoucement at vanafest, I mean, just because something is in the dats of the test server does not mean it will go live.
Just emphasizing the necessary. Only four days to go.

[tyrantsyn]

Honestly, it's just really nice to see it in there. I don't think there's any one on this forum who hasn't ask for a new expansion and new area's. The pic's look very promising. And I'm glad to see that the Dev's have been working hard behind close door's to bring us something new. Assuming that these zone's are actually coming in a new expansion/add on.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Don't get your hopes too high. Wait for an annoucement at vanafest, I mean, just because something is in the dats of the test server does not mean it will go live. There were many items/spells/zones etc that had been in the real game's .DATs and were never released. Altough I think a major expansion (or even a mini expansion abyssea style) would breathe more life in the game, after the shitty year that 2011-2012 have been as far as content go (old content rehash and failure at it mostly).

not really, the spells were usually given to NM's so still existed, 9 new zones means they'll exist at one point. (especially seeing as they even went down the route of a new ROM folder)

(Come on Mithra homeworld)

[Sotek]

"History Directors Panel: Project XI"

I fully expect these to be old zones they never added, or heavily changed, that they're going to run around and explain to use as a little history lesson into what FFXI could have been. They have to know we dat mine and I honestly can't think why they'd release this ahead of the VanaFest for us to find if a new expansion is their big reveal.

But in all seriousness, if its a new expansion and its anything like WotG, Bye-Bye, Taisai. Maybe I'll come back in two years when they're finally finishing off the expansion, but I'm certainly not sticking around for 10 minutes worth of story every 3 months only to get an extremely disappointing endgame event at the end of it. Hopefully its more like Abyssea.

[Vivivivi]

I don't care what it is! It's new content! excited!

[Habu]

HOPE IT HAS HNMS

[Vivivivi]

HOPE IT HAS HNMS

I HOPE IT HAS COOKIES AND ICE CREAM

[Habu]

HNMS THAT DROP COOKIES AND ICE CREAM!?!?!?!?!?!

[Byrth]

"History Directors Panel: Project XI"

I fully expect these to be old zones they never added, or heavily changed, that they're going to run around and explain to use as a little history lesson into what FFXI could have been. They have to know we dat mine and I honestly can't think why they'd release this ahead of the VanaFest for us to find if a new expansion is their big reveal.

But in all seriousness, if its a new expansion and its anything like WotG, Bye-Bye, Taisai. Maybe I'll come back in two years when they're finally finishing off the expansion, but I'm certainly not sticking around for 10 minutes worth of story every 3 months only to get an extremely disappointing endgame event at the end of it. Hopefully its more like Abyssea.

I suspect this is their big announcement, which is why I'm somewhat surprised they haven't deleted this thread yet. They added the new zones to ROM9, which only appears on the test server install of FFXI. It's possible that someone just messed up when they were making the Test Client and started included ROM9 accidentally.

[Vivivivi]

HNMS THAT DROP COOKIES AND ICE CREAM!?!?!?!?!?!

HNMS THAT DROP GEAR THAT DISPENSES COOKIES AND ICE CREAM!!!

[Habu]

I'm so game

[Monchat]

I suspect this is their big announcement, which is why I'm somewhat surprised they haven't deleted this thread yet. They added the new zones to ROM9, which only appears on the test server install of FFXI. It's possible that someone just messed up when they were making the Test Client and started included ROM9 accidentally.

A little voice inside says those zones were zones created at beginning of ff11, they never ended releasing (like someone above said). The big annoucement could be: server merges, the crystal warrior weapons . Then every player will hop on their char in Eldiem Necropolis and level level down to 98 in protest and bury their char, then quit.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

A little voice inside says those zones were zones created at beginning of ff11, they never ended releasing (like someone above said). The big annoucement could be: server merges, the crystal warrior weapons . Then every player will hop on their char in Eldiem Necropolis and level level down to 98 in protest and bury their char, then quit.

They already said that they was working on something that wasn't quite a full expansion, and was a lot more than the add-ons.

[Arciel]

oh... this isn't good.. is it?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

oh... this isn't good.. is it?

At least it'd explain the lacklustre content they've added thus far.

[MarkovChain]

not really, the spells were usually given to NM's so still existed, 9 new zones means they'll exist at one point. (especially seeing as they even went down the route of a new ROM folder)

(Come on Mithra homeworld)

There are some zones not used yet. For instance a giant football area never used. But the fact its on the test server only means they are at least working on it.

Inbefore : a demo at the fanafest where they show us zones that they never released in FFXI.

[Arciel]

At least it'd explain the lacklustre content they've added thus far.

i mean.. posting this here :eek:

[Daniel_Hatcher]

i mean.. posting this here :eek:

Oh, I see.

[saevel]

So stuff you have to proc instead of use any amount of skill to kill then.

Exactly what skill ....

SAM: Gekko Gekko Gekko Gekko
WAR: Raging Rush Raging Rush Raging Rush
MNK: Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit Hit

Everyone Else: YAY DROPS!

I did all the old stuff, don't lie to yourself. There was no *skill* involved, hardest thing was timing stuns. And in all honestly, Voidwatch requires more *skill* then every big alliance old content ever did. Managing your Temp Items, although not hard, is something you never had to deal with before.

Inb4 "managing hate" line of argument.

[Phogg]

There are some zones not used yet. For instance a giant football area never used. But the fact its on the test server only means they are at least working on it.

Inbefore : a demo at the fanafest where they show us zones that they never released in FFXI.

Giant football field zone was used in a JP Onry 1 vs 1 PvP to see who could do the most DMG of the very few players chosen for the event.

[tyrantsyn]

I luv the "I'm a realist ppl" they always bring the worst attitude to everything.

[Eric]

Calm down you guys, this thread isn't about e-peens.

It's about getting our hopes up and then making us wait very long periods of time before SE decides to crush our dreams by announcing that all 9 new zones will be released as separate expansions and that their only purpose will be to hold NMs used in a revamp of their Hunt Registry system, where the only changes will be that you have the chance of getting a stronger "Resist Poison +10" evolith by equipping a crafted-only item(made by 100 Synergy) that can only be equipped by SAM WHM and PUP.

[Arcon]

I did all the old stuff, don't lie to yourself. There was no *skill* involved, hardest thing was timing stuns. And in all honestly, Voidwatch requires more *skill* then every big alliance old content ever did.

Take your own advice and don't lie to yourself. This is complete bullshit. If the big alliance sucked you could not clear T3 Einherjar, period. I've seen close to 36 people wipe in there. It was the difference between 2 and 10 AF items a Dynamis run. It was the difference between wiping on Ix'DRG and killing JoL. You can not tell me a full alliance of noobs even stood a remote chance of killing JoL, because they didn't. If just one party in there was useless, chances are the entire thing wouldn't have worked out. In VW, a handful of good people can carry the entire alliance, as long as the others can proc spells, while on Cerberus at 75 the entire alliance needed to be on their toes to kill it in under an hour (and good tanks to survive even, which also isn't needed in most VW fights).

Say whatever you want about what type of content you liked most, that's entirely unrelated to this. But saying random garbage like that makes you seem dishonest.

[Kitkat]

While having it in the dats makes me hopeful, I'm also reminded of various zones/spells/etc that were in the initial release that never quite made it to the final realization of the game today. I believe at one point there was speculation that there should have been a bastok train station of some form with an entire layout of tracks leading through an unreleased zone, but it was never used and eventually removed from the dats(I think).

This might just be a "we need something new guys let's test this out" tinkering on SE's part so I'm just going to wait for something from the actual devs that explains the new rom files.

[Zerich]

While having it in the dats makes me hopeful, I'm also reminded of various zones/spells/etc that were in the initial release that never quite made it to the final realization of the game today. I believe at one point there was speculation that there should have been a bastok train station of some form with an entire layout of tracks leading through an unreleased zone, but it was never used and eventually removed from the dats(I think).

This might just be a "we need something new guys let's test this out" tinkering on SE's part so I'm just going to wait for something from the actual devs that explains the new rom files.

they're not going to give any comment on it because .dat mining itself is a breech in terms of services (3rd party).

[Dazusu]

Take your own advice and don't lie to yourself. This is complete bullshit. If the big alliance sucked you could not clear T3 Einherjar, period. I've seen close to 36 people wipe in there. It was the difference between 2 and 10 AF items a Dynamis run. It was the difference between wiping on Ix'DRG and killing JoL. You can not tell me a full alliance of noobs even stood a remote chance of killing JoL, because they didn't. If just one party in there was useless, chances are the entire thing wouldn't have worked out. In VW, a handful of good people can carry the entire alliance, as long as the others can proc spells, while on Cerberus at 75 the entire alliance needed to be on their toes to kill it in under an hour (and good tanks to survive even, which also isn't needed in most VW fights).

Say whatever you want about what type of content you liked most, that's entirely unrelated to this. But saying random garbage like that makes you seem dishonest.

So much truth in one post. I am proud.

[Kitkat]

they're not going to give any comment on it because .dat mining itself is a breech in terms of services (3rd party).

Funny, so are a lot of other things yet people are still around doing it, or in some cases SE took a hint and plan to add/added the options (dual client windows, windowed mode, higher resolution). See what literal context does? What I meant was more in terms of an announcement stating there is something new on the way. IE: the announcement of a new expansion/addon that would explain why these type of dats are being found in ROM9.

[Dieth]

Our NEW HNM!!
http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/shared/characters/non-human/najix-the-ice-cream-crapping-taco.jpg

[tyrantsyn]

I do love taco's

[Reiterpallasch]

Geez, you call one idiot an idiot, their e-feelings get hurt, and they mash the report button to nuke the post proving they're an idiot.

I for stand by my opinion that olde FFXI required more skill than current, and I hope the new content goes back to requiring it rather than just being faceroll type content like our current endgame.

[Miiyo]

Calm down you guys, this thread isn't about e-peens.

It's about getting our hopes up and then making us wait very long periods of time before SE decides to crush our dreams by announcing that all 9 new zones will be released as separate expansions and that their only purpose will be to hold NMs used in a revamp of their Hunt Registry system, where the only changes will be that you have the chance of getting a stronger "Resist Poison +10" evolith by equipping a crafted-only item(made by 100 Synergy) that can only be equipped by SAM WHM and PUP.

You forgot to add that the "Resist Poison +10" ground breaking and game changing evolith is a circle shape and is only effective against rabbits... >.>. SMH. synergy has to be the biggest let down in the history of gaming. Who actually thought it was a good idea? "The gaming community will go crazy over how specific (limited) this gear is!" Fire him, then fire the one that approved letting this into the game. And of course they wasted some of the cooler looking gear on that crap, while Nares rehashes ugly ass goliard. That mnk body was cool as hell.

[Miiyo]

Changing ps2 space requirements from 12gb to 19gb was the first "hint" that an expansion was coming. The zones that are found only support that reasoning. 7gb is over half their current game space. Sounds like a pretty big expansion at that.

[Benihana]

in b4 no police

[mistmonster]

in b4 no police

Have not seen the no police in a few days, maybe they are on vacation!

[Ashido]

Either way a full blown expansion would be nice. but this is a decade old MMO. so i'll not get my hopes up. if it happens it happens , if it doesnt ill just go do something more constructive with my life, perhaps master making the ultimate bacon dish.

[Kaisha]

Either way a full blown expansion would be nice. but this is a decade old MMO. so i'll not get my hopes up. if it happens it happens , if it doesnt ill just go do something more constructive with my life, perhaps master making the ultimate bacon dish.
It's a decade old MMO with a declining population. You need to spend money to make money, and SE has gotten lazy on that for the past couple years. I also doubt development costs for XI are remotely anywhere near that of modern MMOs due to the lower expectations of the visuals due to the game's age.

[Nala]

Eh for the game to require skill again they need to look the elephant in the room in the eye, looking at you emity system. I'd agree that older content took more skill because you could actually coordinate who tanked, and NM's didn't spam i win moves. 5++ years later we have massive damage inflation a level 60 cap enmity system that they refuse to either adjust, acknowlage that it needs adjustments or all the above.

As far as the evolith system goes it could have had promise but it was "balanced" into obscurity and utter futility. If they revamped the way it functioned and alot of the limitations that existed along with adding relevant stats to evoliths it could be a very well received system, that said im going no police on myself because that would make too much sense for them to make something useful.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I also doubt development costs for XI are remotely anywhere near that of modern MMOs due to the lower expectations of the visuals due to the game's age.

On the contrary: the age of the code means there's a decade's worth of changelogs to pore over before making any modifications. It's also written for older, dated technologies that require specialized (read "expensive") knowledge to work on.

Nobody writes PS2 games any more, let alone ports them to Windows 98.

[Daremo]

It's about getting our hopes up and then making us wait very long periods of time before SE decides to crush our dreams by announcing that all 9 new zones will be released as separate expansions and that their only purpose will be to hold NMs used in a revamp of their Hunt Registry system, where the only changes will be that you have the chance of getting a stronger "Resist Poison +10" evolith by equipping a crafted-only item(made by 100 Synergy) that can only be equipped by SAM WHM and PUP.

As if PUP would get anything that cool.

[Vivivivi]

It's a decade old MMO with a declining population. You need to spend money to make money, and SE has gotten lazy on that for the past couple years. I also doubt development costs for XI are remotely anywhere near that of modern MMOs due to the lower expectations of the visuals due to the game's age.

If they make a new expansion with new zones, and new storyline, and charge $10-30 for it... even if 100,000 players purchase it, that's a cool $1-3M on top of normal subs.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

even if 100,000 players purchase it, that's a cool $1-3M on top of normal subs.

Gross, not net.

[Vivivivi]

Gross, not net.

I'm not gross I'm stupidaru <(;_;)>

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I'm not gross I'm stupidaru <(;_;)>

>.>
/comfort

<Ginger cookie> <Do you need it?>

Anyway, I'm just saying that writing the expansion isn't free (costs man-hours on top of normal server maintenance), and that $1 million may not be enough to justify the expense.

[hideka]

no that level of work does not imply something that will not be used. SE thankyou, you have made me regret canceling my subscription. i will be reactivating it the day i hear that you are officially releasing this as an Xpac.

[Zumi]

With the updates we been getting any expansion at this point should be free, but I doubt it will be.

[Benihana]

With the updates we been getting any expansion at this point should be free, but I doubt it will be.

lmao! inorite? haha

should be a gift to us tbh

[Fupafighter]

As if PUP would get anything that cool.

Thaumas. Verethregna. Kenkonken. Shut up.

[Arcon]

Anyway, I'm just saying that writing the expansion isn't free (costs man-hours on top of normal server maintenance), and that $1 million may not be enough to justify the expense.

Ultimately, the main motivation for a new expansion would be to get people to resubscribe (which I assure you would most definitely happen, as you can see in this thread alone). The profits would not be just from expansion sales, but mostly from monthly subscriptions. Even if it was very short-lived and would only keep people playing another 6 months, that's ten times more than what they'd make from the actual purchase of the expansion. And 100k is a low estimate in this regard (FFXIAH is currently tracking ~260k active characters and in times where multiboxing is becoming more and more common, the demand for same-account mules is going down, especially active ones). Server maintenance is a constant cost (they'd have to pay it with or without a new expansion), so after the initial release it wouldn't cost them anything extra.

I'm reasonably certain it would actually net them a good $10M if it didn't completely suck.

[Hercule]

And about this old rumor of FFXI on PSvita?

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/12/square-enix-looking-into-playstation-vita-port-for-playstation-vita-but-not-ps3/

http://youtu.be/eMvYRtF8SAk

http://deltagamer.com/9268/ffxi-on-ps-vita-ffiv-still-coming-to-ps3

Etc...

This could made the best MMORPG ever on a portable, and made me buy a PSvita lol

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

I note all your links are about a year old.

[Hercule]

Yeah its not new, but it take time i think to convert FFXI for PSvita + SE prolly would like launch the game with a new expention pack (like XBOX 360 with TOAU)

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Yeah its not new, but it take time i think to convert FFXI for PSvita

A year with no news usually means a project has been dropped. Otherwise, there'd be screenshots (if not a call for beta testers) by now.

[Hercule]

A year with no news usually means a project has been dropped. Otherwise, there'd be screenshots (if not a call for beta testers) by now.

Oh yeah, you mean like FF14 on PS3?

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Oh yeah, you mean like FF14 on PS3?

Final Fantasy XIV roadmap: http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/download/en/FFXIV_2.0_Roadmap_EN.pdf
Note the presence of the PS3 client in late fall. The outline itself has PS3 beta slated about four months from now. There has also been repeated news, from a tentative release date to the pushing back of that release date.

Final Fantasy XI roadmap:
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/ffxi/US/2012roadmap.jpg
Note the complete lack of any mention of the Vita, or any other mention of XI on the Vita, in any media channel, since that one off-the-cuff remark back in July '11.

We'll likely see Battletoads on Wii before FFXI gets published for a new platform.

[Hercule]

maybe it could be a special surprise for the 10 years anniversary (there is nothing wrong with dreaming)

anyway, only 2-3 days to wait for the reply :p

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

maybe it could be a special surprise for the 10 years anniversary

Vana'fest 2010 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafes2010/index.html

Keep your ears perked for an extra-special announcement!

Vana'fest 2012 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/
No "announcements," "extra-special" or otherwise mentioned. Not even a "much much more."

There. Will. Be. No. Surprises. If there were to be one, marketing would be hyping it.


(there is nothing wrong with dreaming)

There's dreaming, and then there's wild speculation and rumor-mongering.

Just to repeat: if you go into this weekend expecting more than music, cosplay, and self-congratulatory anniversary statements, you will be bitterly disappointed.

[Hercule]

PS: i still believe in Shenmue 3 :p

[Croy]

Vana'fest 2010 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafes2010/index.html


Vana'fest 2012 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/
No "announcements," "extra-special" or otherwise mentioned. Not even a "much much more."

There. Will. Be. No. Surprises. If there were to be one, marketing would be hyping it.



There's dreaming, and then there's wild speculation and rumor-mongering.

Just to repeat: if you go into this weekend expecting more than music, cosplay, and self-congratulatory anniversary statements, you will be bitterly disappointed.

And there is realism and then there is deluded cynicism. They have stated constantly for months that they were planning something worthy of FFXI's 10th anniversary, this was before Vanafest was even announced. Just because its not on the official site like the previous vanafest had (which at the time did not have official forums I might add) does not mean they haven't been hyping some big announcement for months. They are taking the time after all these years to make a new UI, we have the new ROM folders with distinctly different zones (even if they are using reused textures and placeholder objects at the moment) speculating an actual expansion.

Something of a 'surprise' is coming and it within reason someone could speculate on a new and (hinted) platform release + expansion due to all the effort in renovating the base of the game. Even we hadn't heard about Vita for a while means nothing about its status, I mean ToAH was basically announced in a snide off topic comment and then officially announced nearly 9 months later at a large gaming convention and nothing was said about till then. The same with FFXIV which had exactly 4 years of us waiting on the 'concept' to become an official product. No news does NOT mean its been canceled with this dev crew, especially with Tanaka back at the helm. Does that mean its coming? Of course not but don't assume something has been cancelled just because you haven't heard an update on comment that was said in the middle of the concept stage.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

They have stated constantly for months that they were planning something worthy of FFXI's 10th anniversary, this was before Vanafest was even announced.

And it doesn't occur to you that VanaFest itself is what they were talking about?


does not mean they haven't been hyping some big announcement for months.

Where? Here on the forums? The Japanese gaming media? The official Twitter feed? Playonline.com?


I mean ToAH was basically announced in a snide off topic comment and then officially announced nearly 9 months later

So you're saying it takes 9 months to go from first announcement to publishing on a new platform, and it's now been well over that in the supposed case of the Vita?


The same with FFXIV which had exactly 4 years of us waiting on the 'concept' to become an official product.

Even "Project Rhapsody" had screenshots.

At any rate, let me put it this way: the events of VanaFest 2012 that are considered to be the most notable will have a live English (et al) simulcast with the community reps, while other, less-promoted aspects of VanaFest will have a delay before any official translation makes it to the wider internet.

The community reps will be covering the cosplay contest, the trivia quiz, and talk of the new play-as-a-monster feature live. On the other hand, the "Dev Talk" sessions (where such momentous news would be announced and has been announced in the past) won't receive an official translation until half an hour after it's actually ended, while the "Director's Panel" won't be mentioned by the community reps until a full day after it's over.

And it's not like there's no script.

I'd be looking forward to the outpouring of bitter disappointment on these forums come Sunday morning if I weren't full up on schadenfreude for the month.

[Benihana]

Vana'fest 2010 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafes2010/index.html


Vana'fest 2012 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/
No "announcements," "extra-special" or otherwise mentioned. Not even a "much much more."

There. Will. Be. No. Surprises. If there were to be one, marketing would be hyping it.



There's dreaming, and then there's wild speculation and rumor-mongering.

Just to repeat: if you go into this weekend expecting more than music, cosplay, and self-congratulatory anniversary statements, you will be bitterly disappointed.

Another delusional No-police poster who doesn't even bother to read the threads! YOU'RE WELCOME!
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/24203-VanaFest-Stream-Content-Breakdown?p=325315#post325315



Development Team Talk Sessions
The development and operations team will be discussing the future of FINAL FANTASY XI and all the plans they have in store for the game. There will be two sessions taking place on each day of the event, and each session will contain different content. Bayohne and I will be appearing shortly after the Japanese dev talk sessions conclude to give a full English breakdown of all the announcements and to discuss the content. If you are looking to see some big announcements, be sure to watch this portion of the stream!


Umad

[Arciel]

stuff

/dislike for shitting up my thread :(

Something worthy of the 10th anniversary does include Vanafest, but to a small extent, because only a small percentage of our FFXI population will experience that. It's meant to be something everyone can have a go at. Something universal. Something within the game.

...they've been hyping by dropping hints for quite some time. The community letter. The Vanafest website. The dev comments.

..Vita is different because they haven't announced it officially yet. If they did an official announcement in Jul 2011 and never talked about it again then maybe you could say its an abandoned project, but Tanaka was merely looking into the possibility. So long as they didn't come out and say it (in a press release, to be sure), they never did announce it.

Events at Vanafest. Live event. Scripts given. Not everyone has access to all info. Information subject to change right up to event start. Translators are demi-gods and can thoroughly translate everything the devs say and convey the proper message in a matter of seconds.

They already explained why they stagger certain streams. A big surprise reveal preceded by screenshots is not. Nevermind the fact it may have been spoiled by someone else already. If it doesn't come out of the horses mouth, it doesn't count.

I SO look forward to being disappointed. Wish you could join us.

[Hercule]

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/07/vita.jpg

[Arciel]

seems legit

edit: change your aspect ratio.

[FrankReynolds]

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/07/vita.jpg

I would think that the smarter move for SE would be to make sure that FFXI runs on Windows 8. It's probably a hell of a lot easier than porting to Vita and I guarantee that there will be a lot more windows 8 portables than Vitas.



http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/default.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/publishingimages/new/gallery_1_large.jpg

[hideka]

hate to shit in your cheerioes bro, but a new expac is coming out. idc what any naysayer says. it is coming. deal with it.

[FrankReynolds]

hate to shit in your cheerioes bro, but a new expac is coming out. idc what any naysayer says. it is coming. deal with it.

I expect that there will be more expansions.

I'm not so jazzed about the idea of the already short handed dev team working on porting ffxi to another soon to be out dated Sony device like the Vita though. what is the expected lifespan on the vita before something replaces it? 1... maybe 2 years?

[Septimus]

Maybe there is a new expansion planned, maybe there isn't. People need to temper their expectations or anything that is announced will be a disappointment.

[Croy]

I expect that there will be more expansions.

I'm not so jazzed about the idea of the already short handed dev team working on porting ffxi to another soon to be out dated Sony device like the Vita though. what is the expected lifespan on the vita before something replaces it? 1... maybe 2 years?

Huh? The Vita just came out this year and its cousin lasted for more then 5 years (Hell still selling more then Vita in Japan right now because there isn't enough games on it yet to support the price). Its not like the iPad where a new stronger version comes out each year, what's there should last a while, especially coming from the development and publishing company that still won't let the PS2 version of this game die :P. Seriously I'd easily play FFXI a lot again if it was on the Vita, there is an untapped market for MMO's on portable systems that they would be wise to get in to. A new playable format on top of revitalized UI with touch capabilities (which would mean a lot easier porting to Windows 8 as well I might add!) and a new expansion is just what this game needs to keep chugging along.

[FrankReynolds]

Huh? The Vita just came out this year and its cousin lasted for more then 5 years (Hell still selling more then Vita in Japan right now because there isn't enough games on it yet to support the price). Its not like the iPad where a new stronger version comes out each year, what's there should last a while, especially coming from the development and publishing company that still won't let the PS2 version of this game die :P. Seriously I'd easily play FFXI a lot again if it was on the Vita, there is an untapped market for MMO's on portable systems that they would be wise to get in to. A new playable format on top of revitalized UI with touch capabilities (which would mean a lot easier porting to Windows 8 as well I might add!) and a new expansion is just what this game needs to keep chugging along.


I don't have any inside information about what apple / microsoft / <insert vendor here> have up their sleeves, but I would not be surprised at all to see cell phones and tablets popping up all over the place with better specs than the vita in the next year or so.

[Croy]

I don't have any inside information about what apple / microsoft / <insert vendor here> have up their sleeves, but I would not be surprised at all to see cell phones and tablets popping up all over the place with better specs than the vita in the next year or so.

Well its a good thing the Vita isn't either one of those! Playstation Vita is portable console, there is one defined spec that lasts till the next iteration which is intrinsically designed to not show up for 4-5+ years. There are revisions, but they rarely involve making the device more powerful, just more efficient (Longer battery life, slimmer design, couple extra superfluous accessories etc. but the actual power like RAM, CPU, GPU etc. do not change till the next generation.) Their only competition is the Nintendo 3DS in this type of format. The Vita already has significantly better specs then the PS2 (And more RAM then PS3!) so as long as they keep the PS2 support, there is absolutely zero reason not to try and tap the Vita market when its a platform that should be supported for several years.

[Eric]

I'm kind of surprised that this thread hasn't been closed, but now that I think about it, is there a legitimate reason for why this thread could be closed? Other than possibly exposing future plans for the game before they could officially announce it? IDK.

[Vivivivi]

I'm kind of surprised that this thread hasn't been closed, but now that I think about it, is there a legitimate reason for why this thread could be closed? Other than possibly exposing future plans for the game before they could officially announce it? IDK.

Cause closing this thread would cause a lot of attention when Vana'fest is one day away when we'll likely get answers as to WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN!!!!????

[Reiterpallasch]

Vana'fest 2012 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/
No "announcements," "extra-special" or otherwise mentioned. Not even a "much much more."
Did you even read your own link?


A decade of FINAL FANTASY XI deserves a fitting celebration and what better way to celebrate than to play host to a two-day event featuring huge announcements, in-depth retrospectives, future plans, and more things we can’t wait to reveal?

[Benihana]

Did you even read your own link?

LMAo, THATS what i said.

haha, that person was just talking trash, lol

[tyrantsyn]

/sigh, see what happens when you don't go to school kids.

[hideka]

i realllllyyyyyy hate naysayers.

[Kaisha]

Naysayers can eat their own hat any rate. Cya guys in Selbina, I'm boatin' west.

[Croy]

Looks like we are heading West. Trademark through Square-enix just showed up with the name "Seekers of Adoulin" I don't think that could be deciphered as anything other then FFXI oriented :P.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479522

[Zerich]

Final Fantasy XIV roadmap: http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/download/en/FFXIV_2.0_Roadmap_EN.pdf
Note the presence of the PS3 client in late fall. The outline itself has PS3 beta slated about four months from now. There has also been repeated news, from a tentative release date to the pushing back of that release date.

Final Fantasy XI roadmap:
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/ffxi/US/2012roadmap.jpg
Note the complete lack of any mention of the Vita, or any other mention of XI on the Vita, in any media channel, since that one off-the-cuff remark back in July '11.

We'll likely see Battletoads on Wii before FFXI gets published for a new platform.

Combat Amphibians is an xbox360 exclusive

[Sotek]

Looks like we are heading West. Trademark through Square-enix just showed up with the name "Seekers of Adoulin" I don't think that could be deciphered as anything other then FFXI oriented :P.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479522

"So where shall we make this new expansion take place? The Mithran homeland to the south, the long awaited far east, the western continent or the Giga and Orcish Empire to the north?"

"How about that one isle mentioned only twice in the game?"

In all seriousness though, I do like the sound of that. Only thing I know about Adoulin from the game is that its home to a large library and a Dragoon. The Scholar and Dragoon in me certainly don't mind that.
I'm still going to expect more of the same until they prove differently, but I'll certainly play to experience the new zones and (hopefully) story. Hopefully it will be enjoyable enough to keep me around longer, but if its anything like recent content or WotG then... Ugh...

[Arciel]

Go West~!

life is peaceful there.

[Monchat]

Looks like we are heading West. Trademark through Square-enix just showed up with the name "Seekers of Adoulin" I don't think that could be deciphered as anything other then FFXI oriented :P.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479522

well this time there is no doubt.

Iwantobelieve.jpg

[hiko]

"So where shall we make this new expansion take place? The Mithran homeland to the south, the long awaited far east, the western continent or the Giga and Orcish Empire to the north?"

"How about that one isle mentioned only twice in the game?"

agree that weird to use that for a full expansion, but can make sens for an add-on



In all seriousness though, I do like the sound of that. Only thing I know about Adoulin from the game is that its home to a large library and a Dragoon. The Scholar and Dragoon in me certainly don't mind that.
I'm still going to expect more of the same until they prove differently, but I'll certainly play to experience the new zones and (hopefully) story. Hopefully it will be enjoyable enough to keep me around longer, but if its anything like recent content or WotG then... Ugh...
if dragoon lived there some wyrms might be there too
SE said they will add the missing elements wyrms.

a new wyrm centered add on look good for me, just hope some story line and not all the new wyrm being world pops HNM

[Nala]

... well im excited that there is full proof of an expansion... however i've never even talked to any npc's that mentioned the area, i had to go to the BGwiki to find links to the campain dragoon mercenary in order to find mention of this location.

some how im with spank in the wotg -1 department considering their choice of area to be an expansion...

Seriously... far east, mithran home land, home land of the gigas and orc's, wotg era tavnazia or present area tavnazia even seriously... actually i still do not understand why we can not access the actual city of tavnazia, in any case ima go find a brick wall to mash my head against for a few months.

[Eric]

Wow way to freak out over nothing. Just because it's not one of the areas you've been dying for doesn't mean that the expansion's not going to be good.

You look like a little kid tossing a fit because you didn't get exactly what you wanted.

[Llana_Virren]

I'm waiting for a fan-made spoof expansion called Seekers of Barance, which feature the new job, Developer.

Special ability: None. Because anything would be overpowered!

[Kitkat]

Anyone else notice that PS2 is suspiciously missing from supported systems on the official site (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/) for the expansion?

[Eric]

Anyone else notice that PS2 is suspiciously missing from supported systems on the official site (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/adoulin/) for the expansion?

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes a million times Yes .

[Sotek]

I'm waiting for a fan-made spoof expansion called Seekers of Barance, which feature the new job, Developer.

Special ability: None. Because anything would be overpowered!

I found it hilarious when they showed some mining and logging. More ore and logs? That is exactly what we need!

[Eric]

I found it hilarious when they showed some mining and logging. More ore and logs? That is exactly what we need!

Apparently it's part of a new game system related to "Reclaiming the land".

[Sotek]

New HNM, massive Rocks and Trees.

[Nala]

Well... a new job is being added... for the love of god... actually fix the jobs that need it first /wrist

Geomancer with luopan a sch/pup hybrid... luopan = totums in wow for shawman, VW type aoe will eliminate em /sigh.

[Sotek]

Geomancer gets Bells and Scholar never really got Tomes? F*%^ing rage quit.

Actually a bit worried about Geomancer now. Refresh, Regen, Regain, ATK/DEF up and enfeebles? They just really hate Red Mage, don't they? -ras I assume are Barstonra so I'm sure White Mage just loves that prospect. The other job, which I'm now stating as a fact is Mythic Knight, would be heavily based on Enspells as well I'd imagine. Again, they just really hate Red Mage, don't they?

[Merton9999]

Geomancer gets Bells and Scholar never really got Tomes? F*%^ing rage quit.

LOL um yeah, ... bells. I'm holding off on any more insane excitement despite the fact that I've always wanted this job. As usual it will be all about the implementation. The concept of the Luopon, Polarities and direction/area system sounds interesting, but I'm not sure if I can run around the mob and the party with an umbrella on my head ringing bells.

[Nala]

Damn Kitkat you beat me too it but im going to repeat it because i want to.

Any yall notice on the official home page for the expantion that it does not list ps2 support?

[Llana_Virren]

Damn Kitkat you beat me too it but im going to repeat it because i want to.

Any yall notice on the official home page for the expantion that it does not list ps2 support?

It's as it should be. PS2 needs no support. No one should be condoning playing FFXI on PS2 since 2005 <.<

[Demon6324236]

Damn Kitkat you beat me too it but im going to repeat it because i want to.

Any yall notice on the official home page for the expantion that it does not list ps2 support?

True however I would have to expect it to be on PS2 still due to the recent change to it, however it is absent so who knows :x

[Arcon]

Any yall notice on the official home page for the expantion that it does not list ps2 support?

The japanese version of the site does have it listed.

[Zeargi]

Naysayers can eat their own hat any rate. Cya guys in Selbina, I'm boatin' west.

Crap!! I don't want to wait even longer to catch a boat to Mhaura!

[Mirage]

Crap!! I don't want to wait even longer to catch a boat to Mhaura!
I'd put my money on an airship/watership from Tavnazia myself.

[Iakothm]

hmm maybe.... do you guys think that this could be the boat from norg?

[Demon6324236]

Norg & Tav are not bad ideas but SE has made a habit of not making expansions or addons require other expansions or addons (other than Abyssea), making this very unlikely.

[Mirage]

I think some of the add on scenarios required CoP or RotZ.

[Demon6324236]

I think some of the add on scenarios required CoP or RotZ.

Hmm~ maybe your right, in anycase tbh I do wonder how we are getting there because Norg, Tav, or Selbina boat are about the only things that come to mind. :x

[Enaula]

Norg too far away from Adoulin.
Like Near east, we ll get selbina for west. Or Sandy, they got 2 quay in port and sandy got relationship with Adoulin.

[Mirage]

Tavnazia is relatively easy to get to, so it wouldn't be annoying to go there each time you wanted to cross the ocean.

There's both tavnazian ring and a conveniently placed outpost warp there.

[Demon6324236]

Tavnazia is relatively easy to get to, so it wouldn't be annoying to go there each time you wanted to cross the ocean.

There's both tavnazian ring and a conveniently placed outpost warp there.

And a VW warp as well

[Mirage]

Right. I never did much voidwatch so I wouldn't know.

[Demon6324236]

Right. I never did much voidwatch so I wouldn't know.

Its actually really nice honestly because for the VW warp I'm talking about you don't have to have done any VW or do any fights even ^_^ doing VW or not you should look into starting the quests if for nothing more than fast little warp arounds you get with just starting them.

[FrankReynolds]

From the Interview:

When the PS Vita was announced, Tanaka said they could explore the possibility of a PS Vita version, but it turned out it wasn't really feasible.

[Dazusu]

Vana'fest 2012 overview: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/
No "announcements," "extra-special" or otherwise mentioned. Not even a "much much more."

There. Will. Be. No. Surprises. If there were to be one, marketing would be hyping it.



There's dreaming, and then there's wild speculation and rumor-mongering.

Just to repeat: if you go into this weekend expecting more than music, cosplay, and self-congratulatory anniversary statements, you will be bitterly disappointed.


Just wanted to cite this. Thought it was funny when re-reading this thread. Shows. What. You. Know.

[Benihana]

Just wanted to cite this. Thought it was funny when re-reading this thread. Shows. What. You. Know.

haha right!

/salute daz.

hoping new xpack has some new hnm or neat endgame content.

[Dazusu]

haha right!

/salute daz.

hoping new xpack has some new hnm or neat endgame content.

Doubt it, nice thought though :(