View Full Version : Please implement Magian Trials for the Elemental Staves to combine.
Oscar71
06-15-2012, 11:17 PM
Implement some sort of trial that will allow the staves to combine once they have reached their full potential as a single piece. Also, implement a trial that would combine the magical attack affinity staves with the magical accuracy affinity staves. I mean, really...it can be done and the end result would bring a pretty powerful staff that needs a lot of grinding (which SE seems to be a huge fan off) and inventory friendly. Please consider it.
Daniel_Hatcher
06-15-2012, 11:43 PM
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/search.php
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Oscar71
06-16-2012, 12:01 AM
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/search.php
Is your friend.
Ah yes..another worthless comment. Thank you.
Oscar71
06-16-2012, 12:10 AM
See Hatcher...I have already looked at those. I wouldn't have posted otherwise. Also, I decided to make a new thread because I'm asking for an addition to something that already exists, nothing completely brand new. The staves should be combined at least in their corresponding final forms. For example, Xaesta I and II should combine to grant the max MaCC and MaTK for it and maybe fully intergrate the others to create a stave that truly has it all. I'm not asking for something completely new like asking that the combined form of the Xaesta I and II grant a bonus to Drain or Aspir or come with a Dark Weather Effect.
Daniel_Hatcher
06-16-2012, 01:55 AM
See Hatcher...I have already looked at those. I wouldn't have posted otherwise. Also, I decided to make a new thread because I'm asking for an addition to something that already exists, nothing completely brand new. The staves should be combined at least in their corresponding final forms. For example, Xaesta I and II should combine to grant the max MaCC and MaTK for it and maybe fully intergrate the others to create a stave that truly has it all. I'm not asking for something completely new like asking that the combined form of the Xaesta I and II grant a bonus to Drain or Aspir or come with a Dark Weather Effect.
It's still basically the same concept that could be added to the several other previous threads.
Zerich
06-16-2012, 01:33 PM
Ah yes..another worthless comment. Thank you.
no, thank you, for another useless thread
RAIST
06-16-2012, 02:01 PM
eh... combining the AMAD and AMACC together may be a bit unbalanced by SE's standards. At best, I would expect them to consider combining the 8 elements of one type into the "prism" style staff that mirrors similar enhancements to all elements (doubt they'd make it the full +6/+1 Affinity bonus and -12% Casting time). This could potentially still be helpful inventory wise--could do all the SMN staves and combine them into one -perp staff, all the MAD into one universal nuking staff, and all MACC into one enfeebling staff. Most likely ones to benefit would be the SMN though--8 staves into one.
But...then there is the snag for other jobs I guess. Does this open pandora's box, so to speak, for people to ask for something like this for other weapons--melee weapons that combine favorable stats from all 8 elements into one prismatic weapon (think a maat's cap in your weapons). Lot's of things SE could cite for reasons to not do this I guess....
Oscar71
06-17-2012, 05:00 AM
[QUOTE=RAIST;326451But...then there is the snag for other jobs I guess. Does this open pandora's box, so to speak, for people to ask for something like this for other weapons--melee weapons that combine favorable stats from all 8 elements into one prismatic weapon (think a maat's cap in your weapons). Lot's of things SE could cite for reasons to not do this I guess....[/QUOTE]
No, it wouldn't open Pandora's Box. The reason being is that combining the staves would just equalize their stats maximizing the MaTK and MaCC bonus. Weapons themselves that carry an augment to STR and Attk or VIT and PDT tossed into combination would be a bit chaotic. Really the elemental staves should be "Element: Affinity +6 with the Recast and Casting Time bona added. And then take a step further combining them to something like "All Elemental Affinity: +6." That would be awesome and if they made it, I would make the MaCC...all of them..actually I have a nutty LS leader. I just might end up making all 16 of them. 6/8 on the MaTK series.
Jerbob
06-17-2012, 07:06 PM
The problem is the fact that you're simultaneously taking advantage of two different weapons. For a prism staff based on the elemental staves, where accuracy and attack were equal, this wasn't the case - each staff you'd use sequentially with macros, but never would the combined stats actually have any battle-related benefit. With magian staves, the direct comparison between a combined M.Acc/M.Attk staff and a melee accuracy/attack weapon is far more accurate - you're using two different effects simultaneously.
I personally think that the fact that we have to make and carry about an absurd number of these things outweighs that particular issue, but it's exactly this type of "problem" that SE will desperately cling to as an excuse.
svengalis
06-18-2012, 02:41 AM
Why combine them when they could just make one staff that does it all?
Jerbob
06-18-2012, 03:19 AM
Judging by the trials that are already in place, a single combined staff would be prohibitively difficult and time consuming to make for a lot of people. Combining existing trials would allow people to create as little or as much of a combination staff as they needed, and each trial's completion would see immediate results. For an item that is all about convenience, I think this sort of customisation and accessibility is important. Of course, in the ideal world a combined staff would be best, but realistically I think it'd require far too much work to actually solve any problems.
wildsprite
06-21-2012, 05:17 AM
regardless of the difficulty, many of us would do it