Pulse Cells

[Cairs]

•The following equipment items, hereafter to be known as "Pulse Panoplia"—a reference to their luminescent appearance—may now be converted to new items called Pulse Cells.
Anhur Robe / Fazheluo Radiant Mail / Mextli Harness / Mekira Meikogai / Toci's Harness / Heka's Kalasiris /Asteria / Borealis / Coruscanti / Ephemeron / Murasamemaru / Delphinius / Aytanri
Pulse Cell Conversion
1.When obtaining a pulse weapon or piece of armor from a Riftworn Pyxis, select "Obtain as pulse cell."
Items obtainable as pulse cells will be marked with a star.
Pulse cells are stackable (up to 12), deliverable, and may be traded or sold at bazaars and the auction house.

2.Trade five of any one variety of pulse cell to the NPC Ardrick (Jugner Forest, I-8) to obtain the corresponding piece of pulse equipment.
*In order to have equipment reconstructed, players must possess the designation for defeating the Voidwalker that drops the corresponding item.


The only thing I could think when I read this is "Are you f@#%^ kidding me?" We need a system like this because some people CAN'T get ONE drop much less multiple ones that they can then convert to cells. I have NEVER EVER EVER gotten one of these items from ANY mob and I can honestly say it isn't from lack of trying.

I go multiple times on multiple runs on different days, I trade cells, I participate to the fullest, and I get... logs... up to 106 crystal petrifacts now, and that is after dropping some before they could stack to 99!

So I ask, how the hell does this new system help anyone? I know I am not alone in not being able to get drops, because I see most of the alliance saying "logs", "crafting stuff" "4 crystal petrifacts -.-" etc while some ass^ says "Haha I got another body! /toss". Seriously. You may as well have not put it on the game at all. I was so excited that just working toward the goal of collect x number of tickets would produce my desired result. Now I am just angry and disappointed. What do they put in your water there? It must be awesome. Really. Get a clue.

[Llana_Virren]

And so begins the price gouging.

[Demon6324236]

The only thing I could think when I read this is "Are you f@#%^ kidding me?" We need a system like this because some people CAN'T get ONE drop much less multiple ones that they can then convert to cells. I have NEVER EVER EVER gotten one of these items from ANY mob and I can honestly say it isn't from lack of trying.

I go multiple times on multiple runs on different days, I trade cells, I participate to the fullest, and I get... logs... up to 106 crystal petrifacts now, and that is after dropping some before they could stack to 99!

So I ask, how the hell does this new system help anyone? I know I am not alone in not being able to get drops, because I see most of the alliance saying "logs", "crafting stuff" "4 crystal petrifacts -.-" etc while some ass^ says "Haha I got another body! /toss". Seriously. You may as well have not put it on the game at all. I was so excited that just working toward the goal of collect x number of tickets would produce my desired result. Now I am just angry and disappointed. What do they put in your water there? It must be awesome. Really. Get a clue.

As I have said many times in the "Voidwatch Final Chapter" thread it should not be this way. Tickets should be points, it would work much better.

1 ticket for a kill.
1/4th the tickets for any ticket buyable item that is R/EX that is relinquished or traded back to the Planar Rift of which said NM may be spawned from.




Example:Kaggen

Noteable Drops
-Mekira Meikogai
-Phasmida Belt
-Kaggen's Cuticle
-Mantis Eye
-Heavy Metal

Ticket Buy List
-Mekira Meikogai = 100 Tickets
-Phasmida Belt = 75 Tickets
-Kaggen's Cuticle = 40 Tickets
-Mantis Eye = 25 Tickets
-Heavy Metal = 10 Tickets
-Crystal Petrifact = 5 Tickets

Trade List
-Mekira Meikogai = 25 Tickets
-Phasmida Belt = 20 Tickets
-Mantis Eye = 8 Tickets


With this system, R/EX gear does not goto waste, rather it can be used to provide more tickets to go towards the rewards you are pursuing. Items will not seem unattainable, or severely luck based, they will allow players to obtain the items they wish given time and determination! Tickets will only count for the NM in question, you will not be able to have tickets from Kaggen used for Kalasutrax drops, however, this is why Heavy Metal is in the buy list, it provides a use for tickets even if one already obtains all drops while having tickets left over. This would also heighten the supply of Heavy Metal, making Emp95 easier to obtain.

When Emp99 was released it was said many would have Emp99s, but very few would ever have Afterglow. This was incorrect due to the fact most people do not even have Emp95s. This is because of the 1500 Heavy Metal needed that in cost rivals an entire Relic weapon of which can be gotten to level 95 with less effort and time. To this day, I have seen I believe perhaps 4-6 Emp99s, while most are still at the 85~90 stage.

I think this would solve problems everyone has with VW in all, time can reward, luck still plays a part (this is a RPG, it should play a part, just not consume the existence of events or gameplay) and all in all it would improve the amount of Heavy Metal in the world to allow more players to obtain a high level Emp (as it stands now, a player is better off making an Emp to 85 and using it only until getting a Relic after which is able to be easily gotten to 95, and potentially 99 with less money than an Emp) while also reducing waste because you can spend any tickets you have left over on things you can trade or petrifacts if you need some. This would also solve many back line problems with Voidwatcher including the currently being implemented Ticket system.


(Maybe if my rant is the 2nd post people might actually see it and pay attention...)

[Demon6324236]

And so begins the price gouging.

Oh how I look forward to buying my nice 5 Ephemeron Cells which will probably run for 20~30Mil+... yay~

/sigh -_-

[Camiie]

The only thing I could think when I read this is "Are you f@#%^ kidding me?" We need a system like this because some people CAN'T get ONE drop much less multiple ones that they can then convert to cells. I have NEVER EVER EVER gotten one of these items from ANY mob and I can honestly say it isn't from lack of trying.

I go multiple times on multiple runs on different days, I trade cells, I participate to the fullest, and I get... logs... up to 106 crystal petrifacts now, and that is after dropping some before they could stack to 99!

That's the problem with Tanaka's preferred types of systems. You jump through all the hoops they ask of you, use all the tools they give you to up your chances, and you still walk away with nothing time and time again. Pure dumb blind luck trumps skill, dedication, preparation, teamwork, etc. It truly is better to be lucky than good.

And they probably wonder why people get fed up and discouraged and quit or ignore the content the devs worked soooo hard to implement. I guess in the devs' eyes it's better for players to be lucky than good and better for content to be exclusive than popular.

[Mahoro]

Oh how I look forward to buying my nice 5 Ephemeron Cells which will probably run for 20~30Mil+... yay~

/sigh -_-

Not that I'm in love with this system because I think they could have done better, but that is essentially 10-15 days of Dynamis farming. I mean, at least there IS an option to buy instead of spending those same 10-15 days spamming the mob and walking away with nothing. Supply might be a problem at first, but there is no longer a restriction to have the item before obtaining a Pulse cell for it, so I can see more and more cells being generated as time passes. And there are weakness items now, so rarer mobs that people don't do as much in PUGs will be rendered easier.

[Demon6324236]

Not that I'm in love with this system because I think they could have done better, but that is essentially 10-15 days of Dynamis farming. I mean, at least there IS an option to buy instead of spending those same 10-15 days spamming the mob and walking away with nothing. Supply might be a problem at first, but there is no longer a restriction to have the item before obtaining a Pulse cell for it, so I can see more and more cells being generated as time passes. And there are weakness items now, so rarer mobs that people don't do as much in PUGs will be rendered easier.

Actually I was meaning 20~30mil each ;; I figure the drop rate of that sword being roughly 1~.01% and not many people seem to do Aello without actually wanting the sword themselves the price will be very very high. I expect my Ephemeron to run me about as much as my Excalibur simply due to few Aello runs done on this server combined with the extremely low drop rate. Items such as T3 Jeuno & T4 City bodys might be cheaper, but I think at best I will be looking at about 10mil for each cell for Ephemeron. I still think HQ weapons like Ephemeron have what seem to be a lower drop rate and should only be 2~3 cells not 5 like the bodys, but eh, just my experience from it.

[Komori]

Well, at least I can join Pil shouts again. I had Toci's (but wanted his feet also but was afraid to see multiple bodies and guilt myself). Now I can join them for chance at feet and sell off extra body and think in my head; maybe I'm helping out a fellow player. lol

[Monchat]

it will not be priced at 20~30M, for the first few weeks yes, maybe. I can't imagine those being as expensive as meteor. It is sellable to the AH so this prevent inflation.

[Benihana]

it will not be priced at 20~30M, for the first few weeks yes, maybe. I can't imagine those being as expensive as meteor.It is sellable to the AH so this prevent inflation.

lol

too easy.

is this guy serious?>

[Demon6324236]

lol

too easy.

is this guy serious?>

I'm sure we both are, I can understand the idea that price could go down, myself I would like the idea of them being somewhat cheap, but it comes down to a few options. You have 3 T3 Zilart NMs for pouches. Aello, hard, has annoying pets you will need a PLD for, and can cause trouble if spells arnt stunned/procs arnt coming at a steady pace, drops nothing notable outside of the Swords, Plates & possibly Pants. Uptala, annoying, has pets, but drops a good body piece with higher demand that more people want, and can be made a joke if fought right, also drops plates. Qilin, easy to kill, pets come in midfight and are easily avoidable so long as the fight is done quickly enough, drops good dagger for THF or DNC, along with plates & a nice STP neck with some accuracy.

Something that worries me the most about this however is probably the fact of shouts, I watch shouts often and so far as things are on this server there are normally 1~2 Qilin & Uptala shouts a day, sometimes both in 1 shout doing them back to back, however... Aello has a shout every 2~4 days at best, sometimes I go a week without seeing them, it is not due to lack of trying or missing them, I watch on AH.com when not in Jeuno and I afk in Jeuno when I sleep, they very rarely happen, and unless this changes I see the price being fairly high because of it, that in itself may very well heighten the amount of partys after Aello though, so I cant be sure.

[Mahoro]

Actually I was meaning 20~30mil each ;; I figure the drop rate of that sword being roughly 1~.01% and not many people seem to do Aello without actually wanting the sword themselves the price will be very very high. I expect my Ephemeron to run me about as much as my Excalibur simply due to few Aello runs done on this server combined with the extremely low drop rate. Items such as T3 Jeuno & T4 City bodys might be cheaper, but I think at best I will be looking at about 10mil for each cell for Ephemeron. I still think HQ weapons like Ephemeron have what seem to be a lower drop rate and should only be 2~3 cells not 5 like the bodys, but eh, just my experience from it.

Er, 20-30M for 1/5th of a Pulse weapon? I can't see any scenario under which people will sell for that much. Even if they do, hardly anybody will buy. I can't see people deeming Ephemeron to be worth 100-150M.

[Komori]

The only way people can keep prices inflated is if you people buy them. The pulse cells are worthless to someone who can't use or doesn't want the item, so any price is better than nothing for them.
But don't be mistaken that they'll try and milk it, just don't buy it until it reaches a price you deem alright.

[Demon6324236]

Er, 20-30M for 1/5th of a Pulse weapon? I can't see any scenario under which people will sell for that much. Even if they do, hardly anybody will buy. I can't see people deeming Ephemeron to be worth 100-150M.

Neither can I but the drop rates are the cause, lower drop rate=higher cost, there are many things in this game that people price very unreasonably due to low drop rates even if the fights are simple and easy. Rarity of the shouts for this NM on my server along with the incredibly low drop rate leads me to believe it will be incredibly over priced, 20~30mil only comes to mind for the reason that I figure plates are about a 10~20% drop rate from what I have seen and are ranging about 1mil~1.5mil each depending on luck or selling the pouches without opening them. In 40 fights with 18 people 2 people have gotten an Ephemeron, this suggests that its a 1/360 chance, where as a pouch is 1/10~1/5 chance. Also count in the fact the person getting the Ephemeron in their chest chose to make it a cell and not keep it, thus giving up a chance at this rare sword, I think the price could be that high, warranted or not. Ephemeron is a cool sword, but I would never place it as high as a relic, even if it does look cool and have amazing stats.

[Komori]

If the price is insane, don't buy it. Price eventually goes down, only stupid impatients will keep the price up.

[Llana_Virren]

If the price is insane, don't buy it. Price eventually goes down, only stupid impatients will keep the price up.

And then we complain that SE never does anything worthwhile, because the things they do impliment are unsupported as a result of conditions such as these.

Screw spiffy little tickets. Allow people to add any of their pyxis spoils to the treasure pool. A player should be in the fight to get a reward, not lurking in Port Jeuno spending the big gilz.

[Demon6324236]

And then we complain that SE never does anything worthwhile, because the things they do impliment are unsupported as a result of conditions such as these.

Screw spiffy little tickets. Allow people to add any of their pyxis spoils to the treasure pool. A player should be in the fight to get a reward, not lurking in Port Jeuno spending the big gilz.

5 cells are also fail, look at the idea of it in general, you have to buy 5 of an item from someone who basically got your drop already but turned it into a cell instead of taking it to make 1 of the same armor, I wonder why we need 5 anyways, is the armor made so where its genetically bonded to the person who gets it in their box rewards, then you must break off pieces of other pieces of that same armor to have a man hiding behind an outpost put it together the same way it was inside of the box, but now it genetically locks to you?

[Dragoy]

It's “OK” because in the grand scale, it is balanced, because some people do get stuff.

Probably not the best place to put this but... until I think of a better thread: I've been trying to think of the best way to put it for a long time, like at least since I did about 273 runs of the Egg Enthusiast, and other such quests where it almost always seems like you get more of certain type of seals (which is exactly what happens).

Player A does the run for 100 times, and gets lots more of the item he, she, or other does not want.
Balance -- activate!
Player B does the run for 100 times, and gets basically the opposite items.

The unfortunate thing is, that these numbers usually need to be around the thousands for people to actually see the drop rates balance out, and what is more, this kind of a system is definitely discriminating against any and all individuals, some more than others (did I hear someone mention luck?).

I think this is usually why players will report messed up drop-rates (though at times, there actually was something wrong).


Blubb ! !! !

[Monchat]

Um your brother is pchan? Don't start calling people clueless..

Talk to the hand.

You're the dude who wipes to adl 90% of the time, then makes a youtube video of a single LUCKY win, just to proove a point.

NO honey, YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.

My success rate on ADL is 75%. I made 30 marrow in the last 2 weeks with 7 poping runs (42 attempts).

Back on topic: I also saw several mextli harness cells for 500k, meikira cells for ~7Mil. We are far from your "insane prices".

[Verytus]

Hey guys, I can see this thread has some great points being made, but we should try not to let it get derailed through personal attacks on one another. We appreciate all of your enthusiasm toward FFXI, so let's try and keep it constructive!

[Ophannus]

I've gotten a Pulse Cell for Mex Harness, I sold it for 750k, think that's reasonable.

[Zerich]

douches will oversell anything for profit in the game, someone was shouting to sell ancient beastcoins for 50k in our PJ yesterday night...basically everyone logged on shot him down, and helped inform players that he's over 500% the original price of the items.

[Babekeke]

The single, best thing about this, is:

If you are still part of a large LS, or group of friends who are spamming VW to try and get everyone all the stuff that they want, this is exactly what was asked for. Everyone seems to have forgotten that this is what was asked for though, because it's been so long since LSs had to bother with the likes of a 'point system', that they would probably have to start one anew.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that in JP runs, they all shout out at the end "hey anyone want this cell? I got 2 this run, take it if you need. it's in bazaar for 1 gil".

Unfortunately, more people in our culture are greedy.

[detlef]

It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that in JP runs, they all shout out at the end "hey anyone want this cell? I got 2 this run, take it if you need. it's in bazaar for 1 gil".

Unfortunately, more people in our culture are greedy.
What. JP are nowhere near as virtuous or perfect as you seem to believe. Your hypothetical scenario is laughable.

On topic, I got my first pulse cell today from Celaeno. On Valefor, Mekira cells have been selling for 2m consistently which puts the body at 10m. I think that's reasonable. On the other hand, a Toci cell sold for 4m, so I guess we'll have to see. If cells stabilize at 2m each, that puts the bodies at 10m. Based on the rarity and novelty factors, this seems reasonable to me.

I think people will definitely begin to do Akvan/Kaggen/Pil/Celaeno/Qilin just for the pulse cells, but I don't see why anybody would do the others.

[Monchat]

its reasonable for a body to cost 2x more at least than the correspondong crafting HQ, otherwise poor crafters lol.

[MarkovChain]

douches will oversell anything for profit in the game, someone was shouting to sell ancient beastcoins for 50k in our PJ yesterday night...basically everyone logged on shot him down, and helped inform players that he's over 500% the original price of the items.

ABC were going for 100k when limbus was first released. Although you are right, 50k is way too much seeing as the entire lamebus gear plainly sucks.

[Winrie]

Noob question as I've not payed much attention to this but can you actually convert phasmida belt, mantis eye, Aliyat chakram ect into a pulse cell? Or is it straight bodies only? Regardless I think this could of Been done better. We need a system to help those who are struggling with the rng bullshit not a system to make people who have everything already rich. I'm mainly wondering if it works like say I'm spamming celeano, can I convert these idiotic guns and harps into f'n cells so it doesn't seem so much of a waste of time or is it literally body only to cell.

[Dragoy]

Not sure if I understand exactly what you mean, but does this answer your question?


The following equipment items, hereafter to be known as "Pulse Panoplia"—a reference to their luminescent appearance—may now be converted to new items called Pulse Cells.

Anhur Robe / Fazheluo Radiant Mail / Mextli Harness / Mekira Meikogai / Toci's Harness / Heka's Kalasiris /Asteria / Borealis / Coruscanti / Ephemeron / Murasamemaru / Delphinius / Aytanri

[Winrie]

Yes that answers it thank you. Joy to SE for implementing dumb content additions that don't help anyone it needs to help lmao

[Trumpy]

i dont think people understand that this fix was for the people bitching that they'd killed 28 qilins and got 17 fajin boots. but only 3 people did really cause the same people kept gettin the same drops. and there was no way to give said boots to other people that wanted them. this exact scenario was in fact the title of a thread here in the hottest topics forever.

[Juilan]

I must say, that update too so long such underwhemlingness, FIVE CELL FOR ONE ITEM WTF SE

On a side note, I am enjoying The Last Story from Mist Walkers, reminds me of classic final fantasies in its goodness... oh wait...

On topic again, this seems like a proletariat move to keep the masses surpressed. Spending so much time on a system that accomplishes VIRTUALLY NOTHING. When they could have spent half the time (and roughly half our subscription money) on something more meaningful. mentioned a revised ticket system but it could have gone one step closer to making this a better structure (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/24192-Pulse-Cells?p=325303&viewfull=1#post325303) , 1 fight = 1 point. Have the prized item be 100 points... and you have a minium of a 1% drop rate! We your subscribers deserve something better than a 1% drop rate on any item,

News flash the reason the why the pigment augment system was so under used was because the monsters sucked and their drop rates sucked even more

Pass this on to your devs, ill even put a japanese version if they like.

[MarkovChain]

Why do you complain ? All you have to do is buy 5 cells, you don't even have to waste your time doing VW, the gimps do it for you !

[Camiie]

Why do you complain ? All you have to do is buy 5 cells, you don't even have to waste your time doing VW, the gimps do it for you !

Well you do have to get kill credit at least, so you need to do it once.

[MarkovChain]

yeah but that's 100x less annoying, all you have to do is horde gil.

[Winrie]

No matter how you look at it, this system is stupid as hell and it only helps people who have bodies to make Gil lol, the 1 kill 1 ticket 100 tickets = gear thing woulda Been way cooler lol. The cells wouldn't be so horrid if it wasn't only the bodies that could be converted into cells. Much better IMO to put body needing 10 cells while other pieces needing 5, if they are so worried that people would cap bodies quickly if say fajin boots and phineus gun ect could be turned into cells as well.

Pretty much what I'm saying is the system shouldn't be bodies only, and other pieces should be able to be converted to pulse cells as well, as the system should change a little too, example of say kaggen:

Mantis eye, phasmida belt, mekira mekogai = 1 cell when converted out of the pixis(all we did here was add the lesser gear to be able to make a cell instead of just the mekogai)

Npc would offer you:
Phasmida belt, mantis eye for 5 cells
Mekira mekogai for 10

I don't know it makes sense to me, but my general opinion is that the lesser gear shouldn't be lacking in use in regards to cells, some of that stuff is decent ish. And hey where cells for rubeus and ogiers!! XD

[detlef]

No matter how you look at it, this system is stupid as hell and it only helps people who have bodies to make Gil
You don't need to have the item already in order to make a pulse cell.

[Alpheus]

To Winrie's point about more than just the glowy stuff being turned into cells, when this system was first mentioned Camate did say that (at least at that time) they would prioritize the rarest drops first (to be supported by a ticket system) and that the other drops would follow. However I will grant that not much has been said about the expansion of the ticket system since then so maybe they will add those items at a reduced amount of required tickets (since SE practically said that pieces like ogier's and rubeus were more common compared to pulse bodies and weaps).

One could only hope at any rate. >.>

[Camiie]

One could only hope at any rate. >.>

Instead of the "Don't forget..." message, the log-in screen for FFXI should read:

"Abandon hope all ye who enter here."

[tyrantsyn]

I've gotten a Pulse Cell for Mex Harness, I sold it for 750k, think that's reasonable. I could see it reasonable @ a mil. The key here is not to pay out to the gouger's. If they want more than lets say 5 mil for a cell. Just don't by it.

[Return1]

This thread is full of silly whining. The ticket system is only as bad as people are stupid. Quite honestly, if you'd pay 20mil a cell for an Ephemeron then good for you, your stupid ass was parted from your money, as all fools should be.

Most of these drops are pretty useless, and none of them are worth THAT much. The funny thing about prices is that they will drop if no one buys them. The prices will steadily drop until they reach a price someone will buy them, and once the idiots who buy them at that level all get them, the price will start to drop again, before it hits its settling point.

The ticket system while sucking for the most part, does keep people doing voidwatch after they got the "good" drops, so it helps people to continue trying for drops, and rewards people for helping maintain a flow say Kaggen runs. Like it or not, it does its job. Just because it's not how you or anyone but the people who make the money likes, it still functions and helps.

I for one am glad they didn't make it too easy to get, or we'd have to deal with even more gimps and idiots running around that would actually use garbage like Ephemeron and Coruscanti.

[detlef]

The ticket system while sucking for the most part, does keep people doing voidwatch after they got the "good" drops, so it helps people to continue trying for drops, and rewards people for helping maintain a flow say Kaggen runs. Like it or not, it does its job. Just because it's not how you or anyone but the people who make the money likes, it still functions and helps.
You're stating this as fact, but what are you basing it on? Since the update I've completely capped out merits on a new job just doing VW and pulse cells are pretty much exactly as rare as you'd expect. I don't think it will really help to keep people doing VW as much as you think.

How's the supply on your server? On Valefor there have pretty much been singles posted here and there on the weapons. Not a single Anhur cell has been posted. No Heka's cell has been posted in a couple of days. There is no evidence of pulse cells being added to the system in any meaningful amount.

[Return1]

You're stating this as fact, but what are you basing it on? Since the update I've completely capped out merits on a new job just doing VW and pulse cells are pretty much exactly as rare as you'd expect. I don't think it will really help to keep people doing VW as much as you think.

How's the supply on your server? On Valefor there have pretty much been singles posted here and there on the weapons. Not a single Anhur cell has been posted. No Heka's cell has been posted in a couple of days. There is no evidence of pulse cells being added to the system in any meaningful amount.

Now you're mistaking what I've said. There doesn't need to be a lot of cells for my point to be made. In fact it's better for SE from a business perspective that there aren't many being made.

The fact is that now there's a new driving factor to going for say, Kaggen. Before when you got your Mekira, you were done with Kaggen forever and ever. Now there's a kaggen drop for these people to still benefit from, increasing the number of people who will do kaggen. this helps those who do kaggen and don't get drops in 2 very functional ways:

1) It increases the help you can find.

2) It adds a new method of obtainment.

These are absolute facts, regardless of what you believe. Is it having the impact players desired? No, but it helps a few, which is more than none. The system works, just not to the degree people were hoping for.

[detlef]

Well I can't argue that $100 is more than $99.99.

In your Kaggen example, it's true that people who were going to help anyway are better off. And with HMP involved, there may be enough financial incentive for a random to join with a decent shot at ~HMP in 4 runs plus NPCables with a tiny shot at a pulse cell. Yeah, I'll grant you that.

Furthermore, I can acknowledge that a lot of cells probably didn't even make the AH and are being hoarded somewhere. Also, shout groups have picked up a little bit, but will it be sustainable? Time will tell. I still think that unless you had a personal stake (collecting the pulse cells for yourself for some reason), there isn't enough motivation to join a pickup group solely for gil. And I would love for VW to be profitable enough for that to happen.

[Demon6324236]

This thread is full of silly whining. The ticket system is only as bad as people are stupid. Quite honestly, if you'd pay 20mil a cell for an Ephemeron then good for you, your stupid ass was parted from your money, as all fools should be.

I wouldn't pay 20mil for a cell, my point is due to rarity of some NMs being fought, or mainly Aello, Ig, & Rex so far as my server shows, I would say I expect those prices to be extremely high because the number of times they are fought will effect the pricing of their items as well as drop rates. Weapons seem to have lower drop rates than bodys from what I have seen as well meaning if you see bodys for 1~2mil weapons will probably be more than that. I cannot say it will be 20mil, I don't think it should be, but if its got a drop rate so low I see 2 drop in what would be equal to someone killing Aello 720 times, and I see a shout for it 1~2 times a week at most, yes, I think that price could happen.

People are not stupid for saying something bad, is bad, they are smart for seeing its bad, so far as things going down in price, your right. But see the thing is that we waited months hearing of this ticket system, then after waiting all this time, we get told its not what we actually wanted. Rather it was something that would make some small improvements but nothing major, nothing that would fix this, then they change it to make it suck a little less, but still nothing big or really changing. If anything, cells could be a different drop even since you need 5 of them, rather than 5 times of a 1% drop for someone else to get said 1% drop item. After waiting all this time thinking things were changing, and we had something to look forward to, and it failed us, your idea is to have us wait yet again, this time for prices to change, just so the poor fix we got, can fix things a little more yet again, but not in a way that truly matters, this is flawed, waiting will be the death of us in time, because eventually people do get tired of waiting, as so many of us already have.


I for one am glad they didn't make it too easy to get, or we'd have to deal with even more gimps and idiots running around that would actually use garbage like Ephemeron and Coruscanti.

Does it matter what others have gear wise? I am happy when others have access to the same gear as myself, seems more fair, just because I got Heka's my 1st round of fighting Akvan doesn't mean I deserve it more than the other 17 people, just means I got lucky, simple, ease has nothing to do with it at this point.

The weapons are not bad, I have no idea where you came up with that because they are great if you play their jobs. A dagger, with +15DEX & 5%Crit rate? This is garbage for a THF or DNC? I mean if you use Mandau yeah, it could be bad because of STR dagger, but with Evis or Rudra's Storm this is amazing, you get the same +DEX as an Emp dagger @90 and the crit rate is just awesome. Thats not to mention that outside of Relic/Mythic/Emp it has the highest DPS in the game for daggers.
Ephemeron is again, the best DPS in the game outside of Relic/Mythic/Emp for Swords, it has even haste, so you can take haste out of spots and put in pieces of gear that are better with something like Double Attack or STP. AGI helps with some BLU spells and your evasion, not much, but EVA is EVA. The TP drain, this has been show to go anywhere between 60~90TP, an entire WS just from this swords effect procing, this can even set you up for a SC, thats just flat out amazing!

Garbage... just... wow... I think the best DPS weapons in the game for 2 types of weapons would be good but apperently even with all their wonderful stats, Crit rate, Haste, TP drain... garbage. :confused:

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Why do you complain ? All you have to do is buy 5 cells, you don't even have to waste your time doing VW, the gimps do it for you !

We complain because this is not what we asked for. We did not ask for a group of people to do alot of work and hope for 1% drops, to get them, then sell them on the AH or by Bazaar, so we can buy 5 to get our gear. We don't mind doing the work, we just want the reward for doing it. We asked for better drops, or a system where luck does not rule over everything while effort is meaningless, instead we got told to pay the lucky people, and got to keep our luck based drops.

In a way, this is even worse, it makes it even more so where effort isn't rewarded, now those people with alot of money can go buy their gear after a single kill, while others spend time killing hundreds hoping for a body, but getting logs instead. The effort of the unlucky being wasted, while the lucky profit more than ever.

Also not all NMs are commonly fought, thus not all are sold, the majority of people doing Aello for instance, want the sword, if you want plates you will goto a Qilin party, hes easy, puts up no fight, and dies fast without even 1 pet in most cases. Aello however is a nasty harpy, with annoying TPs, deadly spells, and pets that must be delt with from the start of the fight even. The pants are nice, but they have ok drop rates, wont take you many Aellos to get them probably so this is not going to keep people coming back. Leaving the sword as the only drop people want, and if you want it, you wont make it a cell and sell it to someone.