Vana'diel Festa in Japan, 10th anniversary special event "Random Deal"

[Lucy7]

What do you think about this event?
(sorry, but JP only. please translate yourself)

http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event/vanafest2012/
http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event/vanafest2012/detail.html?id=item

[Bloodytears]

it says like this ,
6Metal Tags will be on sale at Fest in japan (500yen ,about 6~7$)
with RANDOM register code of in game items.

Those items are MW, RW, EW, VW shining equipments,etc.

"sorry" for my poor english.

[Dathus]

Anyone going to Vana'Fest and wants to make a couple bucks?

[Byrth]

I think it is lame that SE is selling some of the hardest to obtain items, and I think it's pretty dumb of them that they are selling so cheaply. Maybe more details will come out as far as probability, but it looks like someone could buy almost anything they want (and a considerable number of incidental other things) for about $100. I know SE's budget has been tight, but selling what little integrity they have left for a few thousand dollars seems weak even for them.

[Alhanelem]

Um yeah, let's sell some random super weapons/items to one portion of our playerbase for the price of lunch and not give other people a similar opportunity. At least sell a few of the things on the goddanged SE online store or something.

Or better yet, don't do it at all, because that's a really lame way to give out relics. Do they really need to sell a couple dog tags that badly?

[Sparthos]

lol what a slap in the face to the NA and EU base.

Seriously, selling the rarest items in the game for 6 bucks while bullshitting us about items needing to be rare for balance? Hahahahaha.

Please tell me this has a Tanaka-style trap involved and really the code is for a 'chance' at getting a rare item when you key it in at the moogle. You have a 5% chance of getting the item and a 95% chance of getting logs, ore or rock salt.

Let the games begin!~

[Phafi]

It would be nice if Camate and Bayohne returned from vanafest with a bunch of these to give away at an event. =\

[Sargent]

I want to assume that there's more chance of getting special event items out of this than VW drops or Weapon Coupons, but it really is an assumption at this point. All I can say it, can we have some?

Thought not.

[azjazo]

And yet the Fanart contest have only gimmicky rewards... they could give things like this to people that at least put some actuall effort insted of just having some extra bucks and/or have the fortune to live in certain region.

SE need to spread the love, I as a mexican am used to be cut off of cool events like this, but FFXI is suposed to be something of a global thing. Not saying you should make a vanafest mexican edition (it would be cool tho, we have the best tacos after all, not those aberrations sold at taco bell) but at least put some more effort on rewads for global events, I know there are legal things involved in monetary rewards, not money per se, but things of monetary value like the shadowlord statue of the caption contest, or the PC awared at '09 vanafest fanart contest.

But theres nothing against an in game reward thats actually useful like the ones you are going to be giving up for cash at this event...

More love to the artist, they enrich your comunity and express the love for the game also.

[Siiri]

Wow, what a slap in the face of loyal non JP customers. I have been kind of a diehard FFXI fangirl, saying I will be there when the servers shut down etc etc. However if they are now RMT'ing relics/emp/rare gear to JP only I am not sure I am long for this game.

[Vazerus]

This is the lamest thing ever, SE. Just sayin'.

[Alhanelem]

You've heard me talk about how it's OK to have different promotions for different regions, but this really crosses the line. Being able to buy codes for items that normally require hundreds to thousands of hours of effort for <$10? They shouldn't do this at all, but if they're going to do it, give us an opportunity as well.

[Vivik]

So glad I unsubbed yesterday. Good riddance.

[3stars]

Most Japanese are disappointed with the random trading

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Ah, I love their blatant favouritism.

[Quetzacoatl]

This had better be happening at NA VanaFest, or the protests brewing right now will only get bigger.

I also think SE owes its EU playerbase a VanaFest and offered this deal as well.

MASSIVE PR Blunder otherwise. After FF14 version 1's fallout, they don't need another.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

This shit Better be happening at NA VanaFest, or the shitstorm brewing right now will only get bigger.

I also think SE owes its EU playerbase a VanaFest and offered this deal as well.

MASSIVE PR Blunder otherwise.

Thought they were not doing a NA VanaFest, JP ONLY.

[Lucy7]

This sread is discussion about event:

ヴァナフェス2012の10周年記念ランダムディールコーナーの購入特典について (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23720-%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%8A%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%82%B92012%E3%81%AE10%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4%E8%A8%98%E5%BF%B5%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A0%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AE%E8%B3%BC%E5%85%A5%E7%89%B9%E5%85%B8%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6)

Not only who can't go event, but also who can go event, most of JP players
are discouraged and showing scarcely suppressed anger.

[Sparthos]

Sell the junk on the website during Fanfest so everyone can enjoy getting junk for their transaction.

[Luvbunny]

They have this golden opportunity to start selling in game items for cash and they actually going to blow it? LOL, just classic SE FFXI team. Other groups within SE are rather not so dumb dumb and monetize the heck of downloadable contents.

[Meyi]

Oh Square Enix... I swear you know no bounds to enraging your playerbase... -face palm-

[Fusionx]

It would be nice if Camate and Bayohne returned from vanafest with a bunch of these to give away at an event. =\

Would be even better if they had an NA event where everyone that went got the chance to get these instead of a handful of people via some twitter/forum contest.

This kind of stuff is why I've been saying we need an NA event people.
(And no the concert doesn't count)

[Sargent]

This kind of stuff is why I've been saying we need an NA event people.
(And no the concert doesn't count)

inb4 they decide to add the same vending machine at the NA concert and the 25th Anniversary concert. Would be unbalanced otherwise.

[Ryanx]

reminds me of the tidal talisman thing I could not order it from canada -.- I was so pissed

[Rosalie]

Heck, we can't even get in if we went all the way to Japan--must have JP POL account.

[Insaniac]

Someone from the community team please inform a higher up at SE that someone making decisions about FFXI is trying to burn it down for the insurance money.

[Asymptotic]

I would pay $7 for a mythic weapon.

[hideka]

I would pay $7 for a mythic weapon.

most NA people would pay 30-50.

[Levi_Cele]

You've got to be kidding me. Let's run down the reasons why we're pissed SE-

1. You block anyone without a JP POL account. You may ask who would travel for Vanafest from the United States or the EU- I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about RL friends of mine in the USN stationed in Yokosuka with US POL accounts. I'm sure members of other branches as well. Think about that?

2. You're doing the same thing as RMT. Not that you didn't set the precedent a while ago. Just that this takes the cake. Previously, you did items which were on the scale of an event item. To make it possible to get a mythic/relic weapon (and let's all be honest here, a mythic weapon) for real life money is astounding.

3. You're alienating those of us not in Japan. You'd be alienating the Japanese playerbase if you did the same thing at an event in the United States or the EU. Can't do this kind of event without upsetting some group of people, so why do it? Simply because you know you've got us, and you can just about anything and still get our $12.95, that's why.

So congrats, you've simply pissed us off, but we'll still pay, because you've created a product we all are addicted to. We won't quit over this in numbers enough to be noticeable...and you know it. So go ahead, sell a mythic to your first customers for 500 yen. And again, we'll bitch and moan on the other side of the Pacific- but at the end of that day, what will we honestly do?

And that, my friends, kills our leverage. Myself included.

[Dreamin]

So this is this year's lottery. But due to different region's legal definition and legality of this form of 'lottery', they probably have no choice but to limited it to JP region only for now (by JP region they probably can legally argued that JP POL = JP only - importer or not that's irrelevant). I've always wonder when will SE smarten up and be RMT themselves although this is like 3-5 years too late to make any real money though.

[Avina]

You've got to be kidding me. Let's run down the reasons why we're pissed SE-

1. You block anyone without a JP POL account. You may ask who would travel for Vanafest from the United States or the EU- I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about RL friends of mine in the USN stationed in Yokosuka with US POL accounts. I'm sure members of other branches as well. Think about that?

2. You're doing the same thing as RMT. Not that you didn't set the precedent a while ago. Just that this takes the cake. Previously, you did items which were on the scale of an event item. To make it possible to get a mythic/relic weapon (and let's all be honest here, a mythic weapon) for real life money is astounding.

3. You're alienating those of us not in Japan. You'd be alienating the Japanese playerbase if you did the same thing at an event in the United States or the EU. Can't do this kind of event without upsetting some group of people, so why do it? Simply because you know you've got us, and you can just about anything and still get our $12.95, that's why.

So congrats, you've simply pissed us off, but we'll still pay, because you've created a product we all are addicted to. We won't quit over this in numbers enough to be noticeable...and you know it. So go ahead, sell a mythic to your first customers for 500 yen. And again, we'll bitch and moan on the other side of the Pacific- but at the end of that day, what will we honestly do?

And that, my friends, kills our leverage. Myself included.

Except people *are* bailing. If they weren't, SE wouldn't be starting up trial accounts again and doing this whole VanaTV series. They are trying to bring in more people, especially since they need it to fund development on FFXIV which is crashing and burning in flames. While I do think you have a point, any one thing, this included, probably won't drive someone to rage quit. But when they have to take a break temporarily if they run low on cash, or SE botches something up and temp bans you, or you have some account trouble; for those people, coming back may just not be worth it.

The game has a declining population, which is bad since it is essentially funding both its own operations and FFXIV. Irritating their consumer base by throwing around free gear to people isn't the best way to win their hearts and get long term subscribers... especially for those of us on this side of the ocean.

They have proven that their cockiness can sink even the Final Fantasy name with XIV. It happened there, can still happen here.

[Camiie]

I have no issue with them holding a contest/raffle/lottery that gives away exceptional items as prizes. I don't get mad at a real life contest that gives away a car, expensive gadget, house, etc. that would normally take me months or years to work and save for. Why should I view this any differently? Isn't garnering attention or making money by giving away things people desire the whole purpose of a contest/raffle/lottery? There's no "slap in the face" here.

The fact that it's simply for one region is pretty stupid though. I know they want the Vanafest attendees to feel like VIPs but just being able to attend at all is an opportunity the vast majority of us will never experience.

[Alhanelem]

The game has a declining population, which is bad since it is essentially funding both its own operations and FFXIV. FFXIV is funding itself now, tyvm.

[Kysaiana]

FFXIV is funding itself now, tyvm.

If you think the handful of people playing FFXIV atm are single-handedly funding 2.0, you're kidding yourself.

[Avina]

If you think the handful of people playing FFXIV atm are single-handedly funding 2.0, you're kidding yourself.

Right, just because they are charging now doesn't mean anything as to whether that amount is in any way sufficient enough to fund the development of 2.0, especially at a discounted rate. And furthermore, they still need to pay off the initial cost for the botched launch.

When SE finally is making profit off XIV, you can bet they will be trumpeting that everywhere. That hasn't happened yet and I doubt it will for quite some time.

[Phafi]

If you think the handful of people playing FFXIV atm are single-handedly funding 2.0, you're kidding yourself.

I don't know, there are enough people around in Ul'dah for me to think otherwise.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

People need to stop going on about XI funding XIV, Guess what!? X, IX etc funded XI and all previous games fund ALL future games, it's how a company works.

[Zirael]

People need to stop going on about XI funding XIV, Guess what!? X, IX etc funded XI and all previous games fund ALL future games, it's how a company works.
FFXI is not "previous" last time I checked. You're paying every-single-month for SE to provide you entertainment in this game (a continuous service). Don't tell me you pay for FFXI so that FFXIV could get more content?

[Avina]

People need to stop going on about XI funding XIV, Guess what!? X, IX etc funded XI and all previous games fund ALL future games, it's how a company works.

Um.

Tell me where anyone disputed what you just said. Or complained about it.

Read before rage.

[Zirael]

On a side note, I can't even describe the level of insult all this JP-ONRY-pay2win-RMT-fest is to SE's customers. During "abyssea era" (or as some like to call it "when Mr Tanaka was to busy ruining FFXIV tobe bothered balancing our lives into hell") there was a mog bonanza where every POL account got a shot at relic/mythic/empyrean weapon. I doubt more than 3 people won the top prize (maybe even no one), but every single one of us got a chance to get excited that time.
Now, it seems, only JP are allowed to fully enjoy 10 years of FFXI and 25 years of FF.
I personally know at least 3 people working on their mythic weapon, hundreds of hours spent already, maybe a thousand hours more to get it. Meanwhile, if you are among the 'right' people, you can just show up at VanaFest and RMT that in an hour for a 3-beers-worth of yen. Is this the balance the developers keep tossing around these days?

[mistmonster]

I'll be honest, I miss this game (unsubbed early in the year, surprised I can still post) Then I come to the forums to see what's going on and I see stuff like this......

[Aldersyde]

FFXIV is funding itself now, tyvm.

Unless you have a comprehensive statement comparing expenses and revenues for FFXIV, there is no possible way you can say this.

If you're going to say something like that, provide proof. Your gut feeling or hunch isn't proof.

There's far too many people on this board who throw around statements based on anecdotal evidence and hearsay. Accounting is pretty precise, it's not hard to calculate what's profitable, what's losing money, and what's staying even keel. As far as I know, SE hasn't released that kind of financial information concerning FFXIV, but by all means, if I'm wrong provide a link or source.

And don't come saying to look for it myself, if you make an argument, the onus is on you to back it up.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

FFXI is not "previous" last time I checked. You're paying every-single-month for SE to provide you entertainment in this game (a continuous service). Don't tell me you pay for FFXI so that FFXIV could get more content?

I pay for the game, what they choose to do with that money is their choice, I'm not going to pretend that no money I give them for FFXI wont/didn't pay for XIV, XIII, XIII-2, XV, XVI and so on.

[Sfchakan]

I find the lack of response from SE disturbing...

I would hope the NA community team has reached out for a comment / fix for this.

What a slap in the face for other regions and the people who've invested the time to get these weapons.

I just wrapped up a Mandau myself and spent a lot of time over the course of 2.5 months to get it. The idea that someone could spend enough for a combo meal at McDonald's and end up with a Mandau as well disturbs me greatly. I can only imagine what old-school relic/mythic holders could feel about this, after they spent much longer getting their weapons.

[tru]

I find the lack of response from SE disturbing...

I would hope the NA community team has reached out for a comment / fix for this.

What a slap in the face for other regions and the people who've invested the time to get these weapons.

I just wrapped up a Mandau myself and spent a lot of time over the course of 2.5 months to get it. The idea that someone could spend enough for a combo meal at McDonald's and end up with a Mandau as well disturbs me greatly. I can only imagine what old-school relic/mythic holders could feel about this, after they spent much longer getting their weapons.

JP Button ftw

[Zerich]

does anyone pay the fuck attention?

the community team said they'll be afk for vana-fest....

[Raucent]

that argument would bear more weight if we still had no community communication at all, Okipuit posted today on the live vanadiel thread, so not all of the team is afk

[Alhanelem]

Unless you have a comprehensive statement comparing expenses and revenues for FFXIV, there is no possible way you can say this."funding itself" != "being profitable."

I don't know if it's profitable or not. What I do know is that it is collecting money from its users. Additionally, I'm still waiting for *your* hardline proof that dollars taken in from FFXI are being directly sent to FFXIV's operating costs/budget. I've seen it argued many times but never proven. Money spent on FFXIV could be coming from any source of income within Square Enix. FFXI is just one small part of that, as is FFXIV.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

So a little RMT math: Let's see, last I heard it was $30 a mil. So that would be $3 per 100k. 6 plates for 500yen is $6.28. That would be a $1.04 per plate, which would them be sold for a minimum for 100k. Which would be $1.94 profit. Are they planning on limiting the distribution? How much is a plane ticket from China to Japan?

[Fusionx]

does anyone pay the fuck attention?

the community team said they'll be afk for vana-fest....

You realize VanaFest isn't for another 23 days or so yet right? They haven't left for Japan yet >.>

[Reiterpallasch]

I just wrapped up a Mandau myself and spent a lot of time over the course of 2.5 months to get it. The idea that someone could spend enough for a combo meal at McDonald's and end up with a Mandau as well disturbs me greatly.
Only theirs will be better, especially if SE continues with making the rewards come with every trial done, including afterglow.

[Reiterpallasch]

I'd imagine if there's ever an NA/EU equivalent, the reward will be a dog tag as well, only instead of a special code it'll just have "Go Fuckupo Yourself" with a picture of a moogle giving the finger.

[wish12oz]

Just when I thought SE couldn't get more stupid about this game, they pull out the big guns.

[Chimerawizard]

Just when I thought SE couldn't get more stupid about this game, they pull out the big guns.

damn you, I couldn't stop laughing...
in class: the professor got pissed...
awsome post!

I hate that it's JP onry getting the "Random Deal." Please make a xx only random deal in each of the other countries that you are allowed to do so.

as for the United States:
Tons of companies have no problem selling digital items for money in the US. example: iPad apps w/ in-game purchases of 100UDS.

[Camiie]

I just wrapped up a Mandau myself and spent a lot of time over the course of 2.5 months to get it. The idea that someone could spend enough for a combo meal at McDonald's and end up with a Mandau as well disturbs me greatly. I can only imagine what old-school relic/mythic holders could feel about this, after they spent much longer getting their weapons.

Eh it's no different than someone saving up for years for the car of their dreams and then seeing someone else win the same car by getting a code on a soda bottle cap. Should the person who bought the car be upset? They did real life work and made real life sacrifices to get that car. The other guy just bought a soda.

[Zerich]

What if they're giving away Claustrums

[Zirael]

Eh it's no different than someone saving up for years for the car of their dreams and then seeing someone else win the same car by getting a code on a soda bottle cap. Should the person who bought the car be upset? They did real life work and made real life sacrifices to get that car. The other guy just bought a soda.
The difference is, you and I, everyone, is free to go and buy a can of soda to have a shot at the prize.
On the other hand, we are banned from participating in SE's event, because we don't have JP POL account.
So, your's and mine only hope is to go and spend those 1000+ hours getting mythic weapon, whilst AT LEAST ONE (I can't know exactly how many, but by applying logic to how this draw lottery works, there will be at least one) person from the favoured group, that can just RMT it.
SE's decision to offer "buy to win" cash shop is a separate thing for discussion, but if they go for this route, at least make the tickets buyable with crysta from within your SqEnix account or something so that everyone has equal chance. Noone's going to get the dog tag for the RL item, but more for a chance to save yourself horrors of 8-10 month daily grind for mythic weapon (in my opinion).

[Camiie]

The difference is, you and I, everyone, is free to go and buy a can of soda to have a shot at the prize.
On the other hand, we are banned from participating in SE's event, because we don't have JP POL account.

I was speaking specifically to the part where he felt his hard work was wasted because someone else could win it in a contest. I fully agree that all customers from all regions should be able to enter a contest like this and it's seriously messed up, but par for the course, of SE to do it this way.

[scaevola]

i love that they couldn't even jump the shark right

[Zumi]

I would pay $7 for a relic or mythic. Sign me up. Sell some of those dog tags here too SE. Yes $7 not to have to spend countless hours of farming crap good deal.

[Sargent]

I bet there wouldn't be half the whining about giving away Mythics if they made Alexandrite feasible to get. Emps take a week to get and Relics are a grind. You can't solo farm Alexandrite because of group restrictions in Salv/Nyz and finding 2 people to help you get one weapon for months on end is nigh impossible (mainly because Salvage gear is now unfortunatly outdated).
Fix this and there goes a good portion of complaints about giving away Mythics. And yes, I'm one of these people.

[Finuve]

they shouldnt be giving this stuff away no matter what for real life money, this isnt a fucking F2P game

[scaevola]

I bet there wouldn't be half the whining about giving away Mythics if they made Alexandrite feasible to get. Emps take a week to get and Relics are a grind.

nope, pretty sure I'd still be willing to pay fifty bucks for even an 85 masamune in my mailbox

[cidbahamut]

What if they're giving away Claustrums

I think we'd be ok with that because it would mean they're trolling everyone instead of just the filthy gaijin.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

they shouldnt be giving this stuff away no matter what for real life money, this isnt a fucking F2P game

Doesn't have to be F2P to sell gear.

What they shouldn't be doing is being so blatantly racist.

[Zephyrtaru]

Looks like after ~20 pages of rage in the JP forum by the JP players too, they have decided to pull the the possibility of Emp/Relic/Mythic weapon from the possible prize pool. The page that listed the potential prizes had been amended and the Emp/Relic/Mythic tickets were crossed out as cancelled.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event/vanafest2012/detail.html?id=item

[Phafi]

did not see another post related to it sooo
http://i.imgur.com/Mraki.png
i got the red translated as "Has been discontinued"

[Phafi]

beaten by one minute cause i went to get a picture =\

[Zerich]

this. is. rich.

[Camate]

Greetings!

As you all have been mentioning, the Random Deal event is quite a hot topic over on the Japanese forums and players are equally concerned on the NA/EU sides as well, so I wanted take a moment to pass along a comment made on the JP forums earlier today:




I have an update in regards to the Random Deal event that was announced for VanaFest 2012.



Item revamp
We have decided to remove the below items from the pool of items that can be received with the purchasable tags:

Bonanza Kupon RW/Bonanza Kupon MW/Bonana Kupon EW

While the amount of these items were such that it would not affect game balance or economic balance, based on everyone’s feedback we decided to remove them.

We apologize to everyone who was concerned or looking forward to this, but we appreciate your understanding.


Also, here is some information about the policies related to this event.


Number of times you can play
Players can only have a single Random Deal each time they play. While there are no limitations on the amount of times a player can play throughout the day, each play will require you to line up again (i.e. play once then move to the back of the line). This is to ensure that everyone has a chance.


Number of metal tags
We’ve prepared a good amount of metal tags, but there is a finite amount for each day, so once the prepared amount for the day runs out the event will close.

To ensure that players coming on the first and second day have a chance to play, there will be separate amounts set aside for each day.


Reselling
The reselling of item codes is prohibited and we ask that you do not do this. In the event that reselling is discovered, the item code will become void or if the code has already been used the item will be taken away.

Also, in order to prevent reselling, the item code expiration dates have been set to a short duration.


We apologize for changing the bonus items after making our initial announcement, but we would like to create an event that a large amount of people can enjoy and welcome everyone after making the properly preparations.

[Fusionx]

This doesn't solve the fact that NA/EU doesn't get to participate. The Weapon thing was kind of cool, sad to see it removed (if its because of selling just make it so you don't know what the item is until after you use the code).

I'm still upset that NA/EU territories have no way to obtain the tags either for the tag itself (collection purposes) or for a chance at an item.

We'll all get the information from VanaFest, that's not a problem. But it's the collectables and the merchandise that I really want to know about.

[MarkovChain]

No idea why people would pay 500 yens several times for fail VW bodies. You guys don't have to worry about you stock of tags, you just removed the very reason people were going to pay for it >_>.

[Yurai]

You guys are upset that they fixed the reason that everyone was upset at this event? How odd. Most people seemed to be upset that "Square Enix is selling R/M/E weapons for $7 to Japanese players only." That is absurd, and they did the smart move by correcting that. The Tags/Item Codes themselves aren't that big of a deal and are standard for these sorts of MMO Conventions. I would suggest you guys focus your energy on asking Square Enix to host an event in US/EU, rather than saying "The Japanese event shouldn't get to have anything cool."

[detlef]

If they aren't giving away R/M/E to people (and only a select few at that) then I no longer care. Giving away shinies to a small group of people is something maybe I should be upset about, but R/M/E are sacred and should be offered to everybody or nobody.

[Raucent]

agreed while VW drops can be very potent they don't cost anywhere near 100M gil to attain

[Sfchakan]

Thank you, SE, for listening to your players worldwide and getting rid of the biggest issue. While some of us are going to be sour about potentially not having the chance to get the merchandise or to enter in a content now, you have the opportunity to make that up to us at a later time.


Also, FusionX is so right. It would be great to have access to FFXI merchandise regardless of the region you are in. This is a good opportunity for SE to make some extra money via their website. We don't need in-game items for everything you offer. Some of us just like art books, soundtracks, and other memorabilia. Most of us are more than willing to look past raw Japanese text if it means access to original artwork and the like.

[Fusionx]

Also, FusionX is so right. It would be great to have access to FFXI merchandise regardless of the region you are in. This is a good opportunity for SE to make some extra money via their website. We don't need in-game items for everything you offer. Some of us just like art books, soundtracks, and other memorabilia. Most of us are more than willing to look past raw Japanese text if it means access to original artwork and the like.

It's not just "FFXI merchandise" (though in general it feels like more should be made and made available to all regions) It's the 10th anniversary stuff they said would be at the event. The impression I got is that it might only be available at that event which makes me a bit sad. That being said, it's not like I haven't imported FFXI stuff for my collection before, however it's not like I can simply order stuff from VanaFest. Certain things being exclusive to the event I can understand, I still have my little notebook and stuff from 2007, but 10th anniversary merchandise should be available to all regions that play the game imo.

[Alhanelem]

This doesn't solve the fact that NA/EU doesn't get to participate.It doesn't really matter now- nobody would be interested.

They should offer a limited number for sale in other regions but with the broken items removed I doubt if anyone would buy at this point. Is anyone here really that crazy about dog tags?

[JiltedValkyrie]

I probably would just buy a Mandau for $200 if SE put it up in a cash shop like that, tbh... don't have the time I did when I was in my early 20s when XI released.

[Alhanelem]

did not see another post related to it sooo
http://i.imgur.com/Mraki.png
i got the red translated as "Has been discontinued"
you know, why don't they like remove the items from the list instaead of actually take the time to upload new images that are crossed out in red? That's like some kind of a taunt.

[Fusionx]

It doesn't really matter now- nobody would be interested.

They should offer a limited number for sale in other regions but with the broken items removed I doubt if anyone would buy at this point. Is anyone here really that crazy about dog tags?

You don't know me very well do you? =P

[scaevola]

It doesn't really matter now- nobody would be interested.

They should offer a limited number for sale in other regions but with the broken items removed I doubt if anyone would buy at this point. Is anyone here really that crazy about dog tags?

I for one would gladly do it, depending on the chances of getting a couple winners.

This will sound incredibly condescending but some of us have jobs that make $100 substantially less valuable than the time necessary to acquire (or gather the gil to acquire) these items in-game.

[Sfchakan]

I for one would gladly do it, depending on the chances of getting a couple winners.

This will sound incredibly condescending but some of us have jobs that make $100 substantially less valuable than the time necessary to acquire (or gather the gil to acquire) these items in-game.

I'm sure you think you're ballin' there with whatever it is you make right now, but...

I think anyone who makes at least the federal minimum wage would think $100 is substantially less than the months of work involved for any level 99 Empyreans, Mythics, or Relics. A prime example of opportunity cost. XD

[scaevola]

I was referring to Pulse crap.

I mean, I'm not necessarily saying I'd line up to pay $100 for a Toci's, but I've DEFINITELY not thought twice about spending $100 on stuff I've gotten way less use out of than I would that, and everybody I know IRL says I'm pretty "responsible" (read: tight) with my money, so.

[Alhanelem]

I'm sure you think you're ballin' there with whatever it is you make right now, but...

I think anyone who makes at least the federal minimum wage would think $100 is substantially less than the months of work involved for any level 99 Empyreans, Mythics, or Relics. A prime example of opportunity cost. XD
It would be more about what other things you could possibly do with $100. Buying a relic weapon would honestly be pretty low on that list for me out of all of the frivolities I could blow that money on.

[bungiefanNA]

I'm sure you think you're ballin' there with whatever it is you make right now, but...

I think anyone who makes at least the federal minimum wage would think $100 is substantially less than the months of work involved for any level 99 Empyreans, Mythics, or Relics. A prime example of opportunity cost. XD

Especially wiht the months of play you are likely to take to build those items manually, you're already paying more than $100 in monthly fees. Considering I have 150 days of playtime in 10 years of account activity, $100 for that equipment would be a major time saver to me. I'd never build one in-game manually.

[Shishyo]

Whats with all the negativity in here.
I got in there and got mine. I'm not Japanese.
There was no sign saying JP only outside.
In fact everyone was quite kind.

[Zerich]

Whats with all the negativity in here.
I got in there and got mine. I'm not Japanese.
There was no sign saying JP only outside.
In fact everyone was quite kind.

bro, only jp accounts can register the code. try again.

[Shishyo]

bro, only jp accounts can register the code. try again.

There is no problem with registering a code in SE Account Manager.
It's multilingual. As I said, I got mine.