[dev1122] "Gear Tickets"

[Tsukino_Kaji]

•Tickets (official name TBD) have been added that may be exchanged for the following items—heretofore known as Pulse Panoplia—that are imbued with a mysterious luminescence:
Anhur Robe / Fazheluo Radiant Mail / Mextli Harness / Mekira Meikogai / Toci's Harness / Heka's Kalasiris /Asteria /Borealis / Coruscanti / Ephemeron / Murasamemaru / Delphinius / Aytanri
The Exchange Process:
1.When obtaining a pulse weapon or piece of armor from a Riftworn Pyxis, select "Obtain as ticket."
*These items are stackable (up to twelve), deliverable, and may be traded or sold at the auction hour(There's a typo here.) as well as from bazaars.
2.Trade the specified amount of ticket items to the NPC Ardrick in Junger Forest (I-8) and he will reconstruct the appropriate piece of equipment.
*In order to have equipment reconstructed, players must first receive the designation for defeating the Voidwalker that drops the corresponding ticket items.
*The required number of ticket items may vary.
Ok so the Dev Team dose realize that this witll completely devalue and/or negate the corrisponding crafted bodies and the price tag on the bodies from pulse will be around 10mil not more? Wasn't this update suppose to make these items more obtainable to the general playing populous?

[Return1]

If the Ticket bodies are well over 10mil, the crafted bodies won't take too much of a hit. Also, it does open up these bodies to a lot more people, especially after the massive rush to be the first to grab up overpriced tickets dies down. Hell, I know a lot of people who could have spent less time farming 50mil than they've spent trying to find Mekira body.

I think the ticket system is awesome, and it provides incentive for people to continue the event even after they've gotten their drops, providing those without them, more chances to do the battles.

[Alhanelem]

The tickets are still going to be valuable coveted items so I don't think it will be a big deal.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Ticket system is virtually useless and doesn't really increase incentive to keep doing NMs at all, especially if it requires 3+ tickets, of the rarest drop from these nms.

Asteria and Murasamemaru aren't even good.

[svengalis]

Ticket system is virtually useless and doesn't really increase incentive to keep doing NMs at all, especially if it requires 3+ tickets, of the rarest drop from these nms.

Asteria and Murasamemaru aren't even good.
People do qilin just to sell the plates so I think you may be wrong. Now that they are sellable though shouldn't they require more then just 3 trades to get the bodies?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Aside from a few very lucky people Corsucanti isn't so common that people will be making a ton of tickets out of it.

[Devnull]

I may be speaking with a grave misunderstanding in mind but... it doesn't specifically say that there will be multiple types of tickets when I re-read the official post. Is it made clear somewhere that there will be a ticket type per item dropped, or might it be possible that tickets will be unified, meaning for every 5 tickets out of any type of drops, you can exchange it for what you want?

Unless it's clarified, I think we'll have to wait and see, because if there are indeed different type of tickets, it won't flood the market, but it might if there's only 1 type of tickets.

[Kincard]

The way the Japanese post is worded it suggests that there are different tickets for each item.

Speaking of which, why does the translation team leave entire lines out of the English version of the notes? There was like 3 or 4 lines of info that was left out/not translated properly. We get almost everything else translated verbatim. I mean, I guess it's not too big a deal since these announcements are always subject to change, but it would be nice if you guys left in key details like 5 tickets being needed so we can actually discuss/feedback the news like the Japanese playerbase is able to (And isn't feedback the whole damn reason these forums were created).

[Alhanelem]

The way the Japanese post is worded it suggests that there are different tickets for each item.Um, yeah, the English says this too, is somebody getting the idea it doesn't work this way?

edit: I suppose it's not directly stated, but it's implied. Did people really think it meant "obtain generic ticket for any item"?

"When obtaining a pulse weapon or piece of armor from a Riftworn Pyxis, select "Obtain as ticket [for that pulse weapon or piece of armor].""

[Kincard]

Apparently so. See: Post above me. It helps to read the entire thread before you respond. People speculate all kinds of improbable things when wording is vague, and I'm placing the blame on the translators for one reason: The original text here DID make it clear without question. I don't understand why they decide to translate it in a way so that the wording becomes more vague, this is the kind of stuff that made people buttmad back when augments were first released (Except in that case it was a full-on translation error).

Well actually maybe they took that to heart so now they just translate stuff incredibly vaguely and leave entire lines out so the playerbase can blame each other for interpreting things incorrectly.

[Alhanelem]

Apparently so. See: Post above me. It helps to read the entire thread before you respond. I did read the entire thread before I responded, so please refrain from making needless rude comments.

The time that I clicked the thread and the time I made the post were far apart.

[SpankWustler]

I guess the ticket system will make Qilin 1% more appealing, since there will be one more possible thing to sell.

I doubt enough tickets will ever come into existence to change the value and thus price of the crafted equivalents by a large amount, particularly considering how valued and thus expensive the tickets themselves will likely be.


buttmad

I think this single imaginary word sums up the entire ticket system, mostly by making me picture horrible things.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

The point still remains that this was SE's attempt to make these items more obtainable to the general gaming public. where it will most assuredly not.
Can we get a dev responce on why simply increasing the drop rates from voidwatch was not possible?

[Insaniac]

The point still remains that this was SE's attempt to make these items more obtainable to the general gaming public. where it will most assuredly not.
Can we get a dev responce on why simply increasing the drop rates from voidwatch was not possible?No this is an attempt to make it look like they are making an attempt to make an attempt. They intend for it to do almost nothing because the only thing that gives VW any replay value at all is the fact that you never get what you want. If we got what we want there would need to be new content for people to do which there is not.

[saevel]

The point still remains that this was SE's attempt to make these items more obtainable to the general gaming public. where it will most assuredly not.
Can we get a dev responce on why simply increasing the drop rates from voidwatch was not possible?

Because they don't actually want to make these more obtainable to the public. The faster people get shiny's the faster they'll want something "more" to do and the faster SE will be expected to create "something". The ticket system is a way to keep people fighting the same NMs ever after they got their gear, it's an incentive to keep doing content they've already done. Getting more toci's is a side effect of the update, not the main point.

[Insaniac]

I don't even know what a body ticket would have to sell for to convince me to join a VW shout specifically for a chance at a ticket. Maybe 40mil. The odds of getting one are so low it's not even worth it for any less than that imo. I don't think this has much to do with encouraging people to keep doing old VW fights. It's all about pretending to half listen to what people have been justifiably complaining about for the past year but not really fixing the issue at all.

[Gokku]

prices should and probably will be around the 2-3mil range for most tickets with the akavan body and kaggen bodys being higher due to SCH SCH SCH get ya embrava gear!

[Juilan]

the the way its been said on this might make the VW burn out happen quicker... this is a way to give people who seem to be lucky enough to get good drops a way to make more money... which is horrible game design to encourage it last longer.

another thing, whats with SE's translators, google seems to do a better job and is quicker.

[Return1]

I don't think rewarding people for helping other, intentionally or incidentally, is horrible game design. I do think they could have done more though, adding a flat 5% at least to the equipment drops would be nice.

[DaBackpack]

I was excited about the idea of a ticket system before I read this post. However, this announcement betrays my expectations in two big ways:

1.) It seems as though only the sparkly gear pieces will be tradable for tickets. This is so stupid unless they were to somehow change the drop rates on some items. It might benefit T3 Zilart runs a tiny bit (IF the tickets are universal). I was under the impression that I could trade 200 Mantis Eyes and 100 Houyi's Gorgets and receive a single Delphinius, and I was alright with it. It seems as though Mantis Eyes and Houyi's Gorgets will be just as useless as before.

2.) The fact that they are tradable struck me as game-breaking, but then I realized that so few tickets will exist because nobody who already has a body piece will even care enough to go searching for tickets. I guess this part isn't a big deal after all.

Regardless: Square-Enix, I am disappoint.

[Mahoro]

The latest test server notes do not actually state that a person has to have a Pulse piece in order to obtain a ticket for such. It is possible the restriction got lifted.

[Alhanelem]

The latest test server notes do not actually state that a person has to have a Pulse piece in order to obtain a ticket for such. It is possible the restriction got lifted.
Don't kid yourself. Go play on the test server before you jump to conclusions like that. Remember, this is SE we're talking about.

[Mahoro]

The only conclusion I jumped to is that it was "possible", not that it was fact. Relevant language bolded:


Tickets (official name TBD) have been added that may be exchanged for the following items—heretofore known as Pulse Panoplia—that are imbued with a mysterious luminescence:

Anhur Robe / Fazheluo Radiant Mail / Mextli Harness / Mekira Meikogai / Toci's Harness / Heka's Kalasiris /Asteria /Borealis / Coruscanti / Ephemeron / Murasamemaru / Delphinius / Aytanri

The Exchange Process:
When obtaining a pulse weapon or piece of armor from a Riftworn Pyxis, select "Obtain as ticket."
*These items are stackable (up to twelve), deliverable, and may be traded or sold at the auction hour as well as from bazaars.
Trade the specified amount of ticket items to the NPC Ardrick in Junger Forest (I- and he will reconstruct the appropriate piece of equipment.
*In order to have equipment reconstructed, players must first receive the designation for defeating the Voidwalker that drops the corresponding ticket items.
*The required number of ticket items may vary.

[Llana_Virren]

Why can't we just add the spoils of our Pyxis to the treasure pool? If I luck out on a drop, then I already have priority on it because it is in my Pyxis. Allowing me to add those spoils to the pool allows me to share those items that I decide I do not want.

No need to create some huge AH-able leech system so that players can buy their way into getting all the end-game armor without actually participating in a fight.

[Asymptotic]

I agree that the tickets are dumb. But de-valuing the crafted bodies? Really? They're already de-valued by the existence of the pulse panoplia, not to mention that the only crafted body that has any application outside of its pulse version is the crafted version of Anhur robe, because with the right gear, you don't need the extra skill from Anhur over the crafted version.

[Xantavia]

No need to create some huge AH-able leech system so that players can buy their way into getting all the end-game armor without actually participating in a fight.

Looks like they already addressed this by making it a requirement to have the title before you can turn them in.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Looks like they already addressed this by making it a requirement to have the title before you can turn them in.I better go beat akvan another 322 times to makes sure I've gotten the title then...

Also, if they're going to add this inane ticket system, they need to add gear from the higher level tiers such as athos. Shiney be dammed.

[Insaniac]

Agreed. At least mobs that drop athos rubeus and ogiers also drop other items that could encourage someone to continue killing those NMs and put tickets into the market. Having just made that statement I realize that is the exact reason those items were left out of the ticket system.

[SpankWustler]

At least mobs that drop athos rubeus and ogiers also drop other items that could encourage someone to continue killing those NMs and put tickets into the market. Having just made that statement I realize that is the exact reason those items were left out of the ticket system.

A Galka from Bastok seeks the Voidwatch drops and wishes to gain entry to those Voidwatch drops through a doorway. A ticketkeeper tells the Galka that he cannot go through at the present time.

The Galka asks if he can ever go through, and the ticketkeeper says that it is possible. The Galka waits by the door for years, bribing the ticketkeeper with everything he has. The doorkeeper accepts the bribes, but tells the Galka that he accepts them "so that you do not think you have failed to do anything."

The Galka does not attempt to murder or hurt the ticketkeeper to gain the Voidwatch drops and waits patiently at the door until he is about to die. Right before his death, he asks the ticketkeeper why even though everyone seeks the Voidwatch drops, no one else has come in all the years. The ticketkeeper answers, "No one else could ever be admitted here, since this ticket system was made only for you. I will now shut the gate."

[Dreamin]

Still doesn't address the fact that many ppl has gone way more time on too many NMs and has never gotten some of the ra/ex item. Thanks, SE Random Generator.

I know ppl will come back in here and talk about the old HNMs, but seriously, how many of YOU has actually killed those HNMs 500+ and still not seem the desired drop?

[I've stopped doing Pil since I've been over 0/400+ on bodies and still rages everytime I see ppl who are 1/10 or less].

[Concerned4FFxi]

I bet this screws me over. I currently do not have an ass ton of gil to buy tickets, and so i farm the actual vwnm i need gear from until i acquire it, then move on to the next vwnm. Now, with the ticket system, the whole point of the rare/ex goes out the window, plus, I bet people will stop doing the vwnm i need and just prefer to spam the jueno t3's or something because they drop great bodies that can now be sold as tickets and hmp to sell to purchase other tickets from the vwnm you want gear from but doesnt drop hmp pouches. I see this a a royal screw job, just wait. SE i'm not going to go play ff14 just because every time you make an event as of lately for 11 you end up screwing it up or making it a zerg fest or an easy button smash fest. This is hardly the game I remember.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I relaized there had to be some dude hoarding pinnons, cuticles and whatever the other thing was hoping they were the "ticket" item. lol