Prismatic Gorget/Obi/Belt...inventory +7/14/21

[Maldoror]

Please give me a quest to combine 8 Sea Gorgets/Obis/Belts into one of each, thanks.

[Rubicant82]

Toss in the elemental staffs also please!

[Daniel_Hatcher]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/search.php

Is your friend.

[Alhanelem]

We all want it, but I'm gonna have to be the pathetic naysayer who tells you that we're not going to get it.

SE loves situational gear and excessive need for inventory space they can't give. I'd settle for something slightly less good that was universal, but it doesn't even seem like we'll get that.

[Meyi]

(...)but I'm gonna have to be the pathetic naysayer who tells you that we're not going to get it.

No you don't.

I'd like to see this too! I don't understand why we can't have a bothersome quest to combine all eight elements into one item. After all, we have to first obtain all eight. Why not add one more annoying step to the process to get more inventory space? :3

[Arukia]

Yes please all duh waii! :D If you can't give us more inventory space because lollimitation then please approach the problem from a different angle :>

[Cowardlybabooon]

And if SE needs more incentive, it will cut down the gap between 3rd party tool gear swappers and the rest of us. There is nothing holding you back here so don't bs us and say there is!

[Alhanelem]

No you don't.

I'd like to see this too! I don't understand why we can't have a bothersome quest to combine all eight elements into one item. After all, we have to first obtain all eight. Why not add one more annoying step to the process to get more inventory space? :3Because in the context of "SE loves situational gear", eliminating the situationalness of these staves makes the combined one too powerful. (Devil laugh cue)

Of course, a large part of why we want this has nothing to do with that, instead it's about inventory space.

[Xantavia]

I don't think they would combine all 8, but I could see reducing them down to 2 items. A light aligned and dark aligned version, 4 elements on each.

[Nala]

Eh that doesnt make sense though xant, they already have a light and dark version item, honestly any method of reduction in these item's would be welcome even if we only got level 2 SC element combo's that's still 4/8/12 vs 8/16/24.

before the dev team went stupid again didn't they promise to add items maybe something in regards to magian staffs to make inventory woe's less woeful?

[Reiterpallasch]

And if SE needs more incentive, it will cut down the gap between 3rd party tool gear swappers and the rest of us.
lol? I wasn't aware you needed 3rd party tools to swap staves. And even if they did add some magical rainbow staff, you'd still end up swapping them on mage jobs (terra for -pdt, pluto for hMP, etc).

[svengalis]

I don't think they would combine all 8, but I could see reducing them down to 2 items. A light aligned and dark aligned version, 4 elements on each.

They don't really need to combine them you could just trade all 8 for one ultimate one that does it all.

[SMD111]

I don't think they would combine all 8, but I could see reducing them down to 2 items. A light aligned and dark aligned version, 4 elements on each.

if thay want to keep situational gear this would be the best way i could think of doing it
but thay would also have to keep the names different for each staff i.e. for magic att stave's use something like light stave 1 and dark stave 1 for acc stave's use light stave 2 and dark stave 2 or something like that

it could be something like how the stave's are made
put Fire/Wind/Lightning/Light stave's/obi/belts/gorgets together and put Ice/Earth/Water/Dark stave's/obi/belts/gorgets together(of corse thay would still be stave's/obi/belts/gorgets)

then there could be a way to put all of them together in to Prismatic items (or what ever you would call them)

[Byrth]

Should just do what the OP said and combine everything within slots. Elimination of negative effects and inventory consolidation would be the rewards for collecting 8 of each. Sounds fair!

[Septimus]

We all want it, but I'm gonna have to be the pathetic naysayer who tells you that we're not going to get it.

SE loves situational gear and excessive need for inventory space they can't give. I'd settle for something slightly less good that was universal, but it doesn't even seem like we'll get that.

You don't have to be the naysayer; Square has demonstrated time and time again that they do not need our help in saying the word "no" to us repeatedly and in big, bold letters.

When someone comes in and rains on a perfectly justifiable parade, that just gives the Devs the excuse that the community isn't behind an idea so there is no reason to bother, it is a self-defeating attitude. I am not saying that if everyone is super-supportive and puts on fake smiles that they will do something, but saying "no they won't" doesn't help anyone. If you absolutely cannot resist the urge to rain on someone's perfectly justifiable parade, at least phrase it differently, such as "With the Dev team's love of inventory-clogging situational gear I doubt they would do this, but it would be really awesome if they did."

[SpankWustler]

Yes. Please. Do this. Combine stuff. Combine all the things! I want my belts and stuff to happily form Voltron and spare my inventory.

It could be seen as a reward for collecting all eight in the case of the things that enhance weaponskills, because I'm sure nobody sane keeps all eight gorgets and belts around just for rainbow symmetry.


You don't have to be the naysayer; Square has demonstrated time and time again that they do not need our help in saying the word "no" to us repeatedly and in big, bold letters.

Idealism and pessimism coming together beautifully like a swirled vanilla and chocolate cone of soft-serve. This post made me hungry.

[Nala]

i'd be fine if the combined pieces still had penalties to some degree aka casting fire magic on waters day with prism obi = negative effect, imagine that'd be harder to accomplish with a prism staff.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Why would there be a negative effect on a combined item that didn't exist on the originals? In regards to Obis at least, Elemental staves without negative effects would be super cool but with how SE did elemental magic affinity I'm not sure how that would wor.

[Alhanelem]

When someone comes in and rains on a perfectly justifiable parade,it's not really a justiviable parade. We've been asking for it for years. we're not ever going to get it because SE is not going to make the game less situational gear-based. In fact, it's only gotten worse with time. So what makes you think this thread is going to be THE one where SE actually listens? ...

All I'm doing is letting you know it's an unrealistic expectation. They're not going to do it.

[Nala]

oh hi, when did SE hire you as a comunity rep? oh... they didn't did they, even you can't argue that this is something thats needed, and its not your call to say no on it.

We've been asking for it for years doesn't mean we have to stop, with enough responses and support it may actually get some dev team attention, they at least bothered to mention something about a prism staff a while back which is more then anyone would have expected, mind you no new update on that so far /sigh.

Not that it would have much use for a fully geared nuking build, only thing it'd save inventory on is for Macc purposes and if made an all jobs staff would be more beneficial to non mages.

Elemental staffs did have a negative effect if you have the wrong staff to element equipped, not sure what i was thinking when i posted about the obi's i ended up passing out in my chair shortly afterwords so i blame fatigue or something.

[Alhanelem]

oh hi, when did SE hire you as a comunity rep? oh... they didn't did they, even you can't argue that this is something thats needed, and its not your call to say no on it.I never pretended to be one. I don't know where you're getting this funny notion. I'm not disputing that it's wanted by people, hell, even I want it. But I know we're not going to get it. SE has made several attempts at this and they've all been ball-breakingly terrible. They WANT you to swap gear every 3 seconds. No, it's not an officially stated fact by a SE representative, but we all know it's true. Call me cynical if you want, that's fine. In this case, I call it being realistic.

[Meyi]

Honestly, if SE let us combine all of the ToM staves via name (ex. Vourukasha I, II, and III into a Vourukasha), I'd be willing to make all the tier II staves just to meld my 16 back down into 8.

[Tinuviel]

This is what synergy should be for. You could have 7 recipes that combine thunder/wind, earth/dark, fire/light, water/ice; then fragmentation/fusion, gravitation/distortion; then light/dark (light spectral obi, dark spectral obi) -> prismatic obi, etc.

Quests could be integrated with the synthesis of these obis by adding materials to the recipes that are ra/ex, etc.

SE seems to utterly fail in realizing that people ***love*** upgrading gear! Instead of allowing us to recycle and upgrade old equipment, they just inundate us with new crap that makes old gear useless or reduces our inventory. Its a fail approach that leaves all the veteran gamers feeling like they wasted their time.

[Cowardlybabooon]

lol? I wasn't aware you needed 3rd party tools to swap staves. And even if they did add some magical rainbow staff, you'd still end up swapping them on mage jobs (terra for -pdt, pluto for hMP, etc).
I was more referring to obis and the weather. Makes using spellcast much more tempting.

[Septimus]

it's not really a justiviable parade. We've been asking for it for years. we're not ever going to get it because SE is not going to make the game less situational gear-based. In fact, it's only gotten worse with time. So what makes you think this thread is going to be THE one where SE actually listens? ...

All I'm doing is letting you know it's an unrealistic expectation. They're not going to do it.

Wanting to have our inventories more streamlined is a perfectly reasonable and justifiable request. And in the past they have shown that they know this is an issue and may be willing to do something about it, remember this thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/21426-Prism-Staff-%28name-pending%29)?

Maybe if we keep asking them to change things that really need to be change and don't let up on them about it instead of raining on every perfectly reasonable parade that comes through the town square they might listen every so often. Seriously, how are they supposed to know that something is an issue if people outright dismiss it for them?

[Meyi]

This is what synergy should be for. You could have 7 recipes that combine thunder/wind, earth/dark, fire/light, water/ice; then fragmentation/fusion, gravitation/distortion; then light/dark (light spectral obi, dark spectral obi) -> prismatic obi, etc.

Quests could be integrated with the synthesis of these obis by adding materials to the recipes that are ra/ex, etc.

SE seems to utterly fail in realizing that people ***love*** upgrading gear! Instead of allowing us to recycle and upgrade old equipment, they just inundate us with new crap that makes old gear useless or reduces our inventory. Its a fail approach that leaves all the veteran gamers feeling like they wasted their time.

Ugh, I hate synergy, but I'd be willing to level it for this kind of opportunity. Anything is better than nothing when it comes to increasing inventory!

[Alhanelem]

And in the past they have shown that they know this is an issue and may be willing to do something about it, remember this thread (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/21426-Prism-Staff-%28name-pending%29)?Yeah, and i also remember their previous "solutions" to this very problem. They all sucked/were impossible to obtain. They keep making MAB staves when almost any amount of affinity is better than a pile of MAB.

[Septimus]

Yeah, and i also remember their previous "solutions" to this very problem. They all sucked/were impossible to obtain. They keep making MAB staves when almost any amount of affinity is better than a pile of MAB.

Were MAB staves ever supposed to be a solution to a problem that they never acknowledged before the Prism Staff thread, or were they one of the typical inventory -1 items that are clearly inferior to many items that had been added before them but they love to put out anyway?

P.S. With the advent of Meteor, MAB staves are no longer inventory -1, they now qualify as "one-trick ponies".

[Alhanelem]

Do you really think high MAB staves were not SE's answer to 'give us a staff that boosts all spells' ? They were. And yes, I know they have a slight use now. That doesn't change this.

[Septimus]

Do you really think high MAB staves were not SE's answer to 'give us a staff that boosts all spells' ? They were. And yes, I know they have a slight use now. That doesn't change this.

I am one of the biggest cynics that this world has ever produced, and I do not believe that any MAB staff added to this game was meant to replace elemental staves. Even Laevateinn and Tupsimati were not meant to replace any elemental staves any more than Murgleis was.




Why were they added? Because Square hates giving mages nice things. (Although, the SMN mythic is nice, too bad mythics are a labor in masochism to make.)

[Zerich]

I am one of the biggest cynics that this world has ever produced, and I do not believe that any MAB staff added to this game was meant to replace elemental staves. Even Laevateinn and Tupsimati were not meant to replace any elemental staves any more than Murgleis was.




Why were they added? Because Square hates giving mages nice things. (Although, the SMN mythic is nice, too bad mythics are a labor in masochism to make.)

they love thems elemental staves, so much, as to give them more magic acc than ToM damage staves. think about it.