View Full Version : Show Something More interesting on Live Vana'diel
Etrigan
05-15-2012, 02:28 AM
I like how we have had Live Vana'Diel for the longest time but all we ever seem to see is Lower Jeuno's AH.
Is there any chance we can get this to change to a random area with some action going on? Have it Cycle between Abyssea areas where people are fighting or to a Pandemonium Warden Fight. Watching People sit in Jeuno is really boring
Khajit
05-15-2012, 02:55 AM
Does it even show a server with people on it?
Etrigan
05-15-2012, 03:07 AM
If you look at it now, it's showing ye olde Lower Jeuno AH I see a Masamune AF3+2 SAM standing there
earlier I saw someone run by in the Ocelomeh set
So there's characters there running around.... What server it is I've no clue I can say that it's not Sylph tho lol
Llana_Virren
05-15-2012, 10:53 AM
If you look at it now, it's showing ye olde Lower Jeuno AH I see a Masamune AF3+2 SAM standing there
earlier I saw someone run by in the Ocelomeh set
So there's characters there running around.... What server it is I've no clue I can say that it's not Sylph tho lol
At one point I thought it was showing the old Atomos (non-playable test server)... but alas, I know it's not Lakshmi, either.
HERE'S AN IDEA!
Create a separate webpage for the LV (Live Vana'diel) and let us chose from various zones, or even allow players to toggle "LiveViewer" on/off so players could actually watch BC/NM fights. Obviously some LS' might think this would let others see their "strategy" but I think that if you're gonna call something "Live Vana'diel"... it should be more lively than a town...
That, or you could include verious /ls chat so we can watch FFXI drama...
"Like the sands in a Perpetual Hourglass, these are the days of Vana'diel..."
Iakothm
05-15-2012, 03:30 PM
How do i even view the live stream? I go to the stream and it just shows a picture of a taru and a mandy
Etrigan
05-15-2012, 08:45 PM
At one point I thought it was showing the old Atomos (non-playable test server)... but alas, I know it's not Lakshmi, either.
HERE'S AN IDEA!
Create a separate webpage for the LV (Live Vana'diel) and let us chose from various zones, or even allow players to toggle "LiveViewer" on/off so players could actually watch BC/NM fights. Obviously some LS' might think this would let others see their "strategy" but I think that if you're gonna call something "Live Vana'diel"... it should be more lively than a town...
That, or you could include verious /ls chat so we can watch FFXI drama...
"Like the sands in a Perpetual Hourglass, these are the days of Vana'diel..."
That would be very cool, but at the same time eat up a fair chunk of bandwidth if they were streaming every zone to Youtube, Although a couple different streams wouldn't be a bad idea.
>> Iakothm
It's on Youtube now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRYzjUYvic
O Camate, where art thou?
Yurai
05-15-2012, 11:02 PM
So there's characters there running around.... What server it is I've no clue I can say that it's not Sylph tho lol
It's been Odin for the longest time. And yes, there are people on Odin. When the camera was in Port Jeuno that fact was much more obvious.
It should reflect the environment for only a brief time then change scenery, too. I used to watch it, and every time it'd change zones I would feel very giddy and excited to be watching. But, within a few seconds of being stuck in the same zone, I could feel my happiness fading, only to be replaced with irritation and boredom. So I agree that it should show lively actions of the game (Abyssea monsters, BCNMs, HNMs, VW, Dynamis, PVP), even if only for a brief moment to give the watcher a taste of what the event is like.
Midorikaze
05-19-2012, 03:32 AM
It should reflect the environment for only a brief time then change scenery, too.
I remember when it used to cycle through different towns AND outdoor areas/dungeons. Like it would run along a pre-determined "track" through Jeuno, then Rabao (this was also way back before I even knew where Rabao or Jeuno were even located, as I was still very new as a player at the time), then I think it even went through Crawler's Nest or something.
Now I don't know exactly what bandwidth/manpower is needed to put something like this together, but it would be cool to pan around Dynamis/Abyssea/Nyzul areas at least for a brief time, then cycle to come other place. Even if Nyzul area is just a still cam on the runic portal area would be neat, since the floors down there are quite claustrophobic for a cam, lol. The place in general just looks awesome. Perhaps a view of the runic portals looking toward the ocean area with the giant fishies and stuff? *hint hint*
As for strategies being "revealed" the whole of the battle wouldn't be shown anyway since it's just a short visit, right? Not much interesting going on in Lower Jeuno's AH area, I'm afraid. :p
edit: As for bandwidth, I am guessing if the camera view shifts locations - from one zone to another, the bandwidth usage from the previous zone is still being used? I know practically nothing about streaming video, but I can imagine if every zone is streaming even if it's not being shown, the amount of bandwidth would be insane unless the quality was toned down a lot - forget it, it would be insane regardless :eek:
How do i even view the live stream? I go to the stream and it just shows a picture of a taru and a mandy
That seems to be the image that shows whenever the Live stream is down for maintenance, or it's generally on the fritz ^^
Okipuit
05-30-2012, 02:57 AM
Greetings!
Thank you for your feedback regarding the Live Vana'diel camera. We are currently considering other locations that can capture a large amount of people. Additionally, we would also like to utilize this to capture and record in-game events as well, though it would be difficult to do this every day.
With that said, what are some of your favorite things to spectate in Vana'diel?
Chamaan
05-30-2012, 03:35 AM
Could set the camera up in some of the more common voidwatch spots. The western pop for Qilin, the Pil pop closest to Dominion zone, Kaggen nearest to the tower. Could also set it up in any Abyssea location. At least in those places you'd see some people, you know, doing things.
Evviva
05-30-2012, 03:50 AM
Ballista~
And while you're at it:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16916-Ballista-Rewards-Schedule?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17383-Do-people-still-do-chocobo-racing-pankration-ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17665-Ballista-Revamp?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16890-A-new-ballista-battle-royal-Tournment?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16492-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19400-Was-Ballista-your-favorite-thing-to-do-in-FFXI?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19621-Ballista-Suggestions?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23327-Suggestion-Gambits-H2H%28And-more-NPC-stuff%29-Ballista-revival?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23361-Ballista-Revolution?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23267-Team-ballista-LS-First-ever-live-commentary%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/22859-Ballista-%28Beating-dead-horse-I-know-lol%29?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20253-Update-Ballista-OM-rewards?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16491-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7465-So-I-heard-you-guys-still-ballista-60-cap.?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9007-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9727-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5756-Ballista-improvements?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13248-Ballista-Reborn%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/10508-Ballista-Royale?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4851-Making-private-Ballista-matches-more-accessible?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20126-Real-PvP-can-we-have-it-PLEASE-S.E
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine
Any word on a ballista specific event, or... you know, an update?
Helel
05-30-2012, 04:46 AM
Could set the camera up in some of the more common voidwatch spots. The western pop for Qilin, the Pil pop closest to Dominion zone, Kaggen nearest to the tower. Could also set it up in any Abyssea location. At least in those places you'd see some people, you know, doing things.
More like Rex rifts so we can watch people get pwned.
Vivivivi
05-30-2012, 05:53 AM
I agree with the vw suggestion, I have no idea how feasible this would be, but it would be awesome if somehow the live vana'diel camera was alerted when a group popped a vw mob, and cut to that location. Unlike abyssea NMs which can be moved around the zone, or sometimes move around themselves, VW would be the perfect spectator activity, since the locations are pretty stationary, and it's also the freshest content ^^
Not sure if this would be possible either, but placing the camera inside the NMs would be a fun perspective to watch.
Other, less appealing, but still fun ideas:
Beseiged
Campaign Battle
Dynamis
Frapp
05-30-2012, 06:07 AM
I've always wondered if the "camera" for Live Vana'diel was a perpetually invisible character or simply a dummy GM.
That comment about the camera warping off to different locations piqued my interest in that. If it was running on a GM like system, it could float from place to place, even across servers to where the action is. It could be programmed to detect epic fights, like Shinryu, higher-tier Voidwatches, and maybe even Neo Nyzul boss floors. To keep an interest about it, it wouldn't stay for any more than one fight so we're not watching a PUG's 4x run.
Alhanelem
05-30-2012, 07:15 AM
Ballista~
And while you're at it:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16916-Ballista-Rewards-Schedule?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17383-Do-people-still-do-chocobo-racing-pankration-ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17665-Ballista-Revamp?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16890-A-new-ballista-battle-royal-Tournment?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16492-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19400-Was-Ballista-your-favorite-thing-to-do-in-FFXI?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19621-Ballista-Suggestions?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23327-Suggestion-Gambits-H2H%28And-more-NPC-stuff%29-Ballista-revival?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23361-Ballista-Revolution?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23267-Team-ballista-LS-First-ever-live-commentary%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/22859-Ballista-%28Beating-dead-horse-I-know-lol%29?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20253-Update-Ballista-OM-rewards?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16491-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7465-So-I-heard-you-guys-still-ballista-60-cap.?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9007-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9727-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5756-Ballista-improvements?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13248-Ballista-Reborn%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/10508-Ballista-Royale?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4851-Making-private-Ballista-matches-more-accessible?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20126-Real-PvP-can-we-have-it-PLEASE-S.E
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine
Any word on a ballista specific event, or... you know, an update?
I'm with you, but unfortunately there isn't a continous crowd of people in the diorama at any given time. The livecam isn't interesting it all if it isn't showing a scene with a significant amount of activity.
azjazo
05-30-2012, 07:21 AM
Poke-err Pankration and chocobo races are things that flavor wise would be the events people in vanadiel would watch on a broadcast system.
I love Tu'Lia, it's one of my favorite places. That said, it might feel a bit spoilerish, since people have to be far enough in Rise of the Zilart to see that zone. I think Bibiki Bay is gorgeous, especially during its sunset. Boat rides might also be pleasant, as long as they're brief. The Sanctuary of Zi'tah is also gorgeous.
Tsukino_Kaji
05-30-2012, 08:26 AM
Greetings!
Thank you for your feedback regarding the Live Vana'diel camera. We are currently considering other locations that can capture a large amount of people. Additionally, we would also like to utilize this to capture and record in-game events as well, though it would be difficult to do this every day.
With that said, what are some of your favorite things to spectate in Vana'diel?How about the port jeuno guid stone so the devs ca see teh rediculous number of bazaars and realize they need to reinstate the tax.
SpankWustler
05-30-2012, 09:36 AM
With that said, what are some of your favorite things to spectate in Vana'diel?
Broken dreams.
I want to watch incompetent pick-up groups lose to high-tier VoidExhibitionists, and competent groups win only to discover nothing good dropped to anyone able to use it. If possible, the camera should zoom in on the Riftworn Pyxis as people approach it so that bitter moment of disappointment can be fully captured.
Also, certain rifts are really reliable places for people to be while fighting stuff, so this would assure some activity rather than folks just running past. That is secondary to my desire for a record of video-game-sadness, however!
Unctgtg
05-30-2012, 09:58 AM
How about you show us what SE thinks would be beautiful areas in Vana'diel?
Zerich
05-30-2012, 10:37 AM
Ballista~
And while you're at it:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16916-Ballista-Rewards-Schedule?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17383-Do-people-still-do-chocobo-racing-pankration-ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17665-Ballista-Revamp?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16890-A-new-ballista-battle-royal-Tournment?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16492-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19400-Was-Ballista-your-favorite-thing-to-do-in-FFXI?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19621-Ballista-Suggestions?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23327-Suggestion-Gambits-H2H%28And-more-NPC-stuff%29-Ballista-revival?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23361-Ballista-Revolution?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/23267-Team-ballista-LS-First-ever-live-commentary%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/22859-Ballista-%28Beating-dead-horse-I-know-lol%29?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20253-Update-Ballista-OM-rewards?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16491-BALLISTA-TOURNAMENT?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7465-So-I-heard-you-guys-still-ballista-60-cap.?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9007-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9727-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5756-Ballista-improvements?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/13248-Ballista-Reborn%21?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/10508-Ballista-Royale?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/4851-Making-private-Ballista-matches-more-accessible?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/7949-Reviving-PvP-Ballista?highlight=ballista
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20126-Real-PvP-can-we-have-it-PLEASE-S.E
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/20738-Ballista-on-Undine
Any word on a ballista specific event, or... you know, an update?
go away, stop trying to derail a tread for shitty implemented pvp in a pve game.
Tsukino_Kaji
05-30-2012, 02:49 PM
How about you show us what SE thinks would be beautiful areas in Vana'diel?No , that's how we ended up with Lastok in the title screen.
Godofgods
05-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Greetings!
Thank you for your feedback regarding the Live Vana'diel camera. We are currently considering other locations that can capture a large amount of people. Additionally, we would also like to utilize this to capture and record in-game events as well, though it would be difficult to do this every day.
With that said, what are some of your favorite things to spectate in Vana'diel?
http://static.ffxiah.com/images/ss/mid/B6D15x6F9Xif3j27.jpg
Smokenttp
05-31-2012, 02:31 AM
Beseiged
Campaign Battle
this , will actually be something fun to watch even if there are only npcs there and definatly are easier to control situations