[dev1065] Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean Weapon ADDITIONAL upgrades - not on roadmap

[Benihana]

why is this missing from the roadmap?

quote from official thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19515-dev1065-Relic-Mythic-and-Empyrean-Weapon-Upgrades


Other Information of Note
Additional planned features, such as equipment-specific magic spells and pets, have been postponed to allow for more thorough testing concerning attributes, the number of potential users and the process by which to obtain them. One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment. Also under deliberation is whether to limit the availability of such equipment or make it relatively simple to obtain.


update prz. Didn't see it on roadmap, but the jpg image is really small and blurry for this laptop. Maybe I just didnt see it. A bigger image woulda been nice..

[VoiceMemo]

Did SE forget to add this to roadmap or forget about it altogether?

[hiko]

why is this missing from the roadmap?

quote from official thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/19515-dev1065-Relic-Mythic-and-Empyrean-Weapon-Upgrades


Other Information of Note
Additional planned features, such as equipment-specific magic spells and pets, have been postponed to allow for more thorough testing concerning attributes, the number of potential users and the process by which to obtain them. One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment. Also under deliberation is whether to limit the availability of such equipment or make it relatively simple to obtain.


update prz. Didn't see it on roadmap, but the jpg image is really small and blurry for this laptop. Maybe I just didnt see it. A bigger image woulda been nice..

-because they dont put on roadmap already implemented stuff?(your link land in the "implemented" subforum)
-because it's planned to be done later?(they talked about limbus/salvage/einherjer before last RM and wasn't on it since it's on next one)

[Benihana]

decided to bumb this after seeing someone mention blm relic,emp,mythic staffs in another thread.

any SE rep care fo give us a timeframe or has this been forgotten
?

where are the pet/mage job spefici spells/abilities that were promised?

[Alhanelem]

Where were these things promised?

[Benihana]

Where were these things promised?


Other Information of Note
Additional planned features, such as equipment-specific magic spells and pets, have been postponed to allow for more thorough testing concerning attributes, the number of potential users and the process by which to obtain them. One consideration is whether to implement such features as another stage of the above upgrades, or to apply them to a different set of equipment. Also under deliberation is whether to limit the availability of such equipment or make it relatively simple to obtain

That was a big wall of text in the relic updates back when they implimented 99 relics,emps,mythic

it's clearly saying the magic and pet specific buffs that they were going to add on weapons for pet specifgic job and mage job weapons was postponed.

Since the roadmad doesnt make any mention of it, i am trying to get a dev to give us an update as to when they plan to impliment the features they had planned.

[Alhanelem]

Why do thinks that have already been announced and developed need to be on the roadmap?

Repeating the same blurb doesn't tell me anything new. I don't see any "we promise to do this or that"s tin there, either.

It also doesn't make a lick of difference what's on the roadmap because they're always late and things always end up changing anyway.

[Benihana]

Why do thinks that have already been announced and developed need to be on the roadmap?

Repeating the same blurb doesn't tell me anything new. I don't see any "we promise to do this or that"s tin there, either.

It also doesn't make a lick of difference what's on the roadmap because they're always late and things always end up changing anyway.



It clearly says those buffs have been POSTPONED, meaning they PLAN ON adding them.. Read the thread yourself. Jeez.

Since its been postponed, seeing it on the roadmap would be nice, but i dont even care about that. I just am trying to get a response from a dev representative.

I'm surprised more people let this get swepped under the rug. They obviously stated they had postponed it and it's been a good deal-while since the 99trial was implemented.

If they didnt plan on doing it and i'm just making things up, that's one thing, but it's something theyve claimed to already begun testing on, let alone plan on adding. To me it's a big part/issue for pet/mage related relics,mythics,emps, because weve never had much use for ours. This was awesome news to me that they were finally looking into this and like every other useless forum thread on here, im curious for an update.

Who are u? the forum police?

[Vivivivi]

lol who really has a stage 2 level 99 version of any of these anyway??

[Alhanelem]

It clearly says those buffs have been POSTPONED, meaning they PLAN ON adding them.. Read the thread yourself. Jeez.They're not going to edit the roadmap after something gets postponed. They never have before so there is zero precedent. Late with an update? no roadmap update.

Quit with the 'read the thread' cop outs. I've read the thread.

[Benihana]

They're not going to edit the roadmap after something gets postponed. They never have before so there is zero precedent. Late with an update? no roadmap update.

Quit with the 'read the thread' cop outs. I've read the thread.

Thanks for that little of information Tahn. You should go apply to SE in all honesty.

You would make an absolutely fantastic addition to this company.

I think the battle content and SMN section need some policing, Have a nice day.

edit: who said anything about editing a roadmap?..just any fyi, the new roadmap(as well as this thread) came out AFTER the 99 trials, but I guess that little bit slipped passed your forum police work. durp

[Alhanelem]

more nonsense.

Again, they've never updated the roadmap before, why would they suddenly start now? I don't need to work for SE to tell you that. So leave the snide remarks at the door.

[Benihana]

more nonsense.

Again, they've never updated the roadmap before, why would they suddenly start now? I don't need to work for SE to tell you that. So leave the snide remarks at the door.

they released a whole new roadmap, recently.. Are you like... "special"? just curious.

The new roadmap, as well as this thread was made after they stated they had postponed the relic upgrades as well as releasing the trial for the current relic/emp/myth trials.

The thread exists for the sole purpose of getting an update on those trials for the postponed content. I had simply mentioned the reason for my asking was because it's not at all on the new roadmap and we've heard nothing since and i wanted an update.... Dude You are really slow. fo real

[Alhanelem]

they released a whole new roadmap, recently.. Are you like... "special"? just curious.You're clearly trolling at this point, but yes, I"m fully aware they released a whole new roadmap, recently... that's the one we're talking about!


Dude You are really slow. fo real Dude, you're really offensive, "fo real", and you need to stop. Like now. Fo shurrr, dude. There is no justification for your appalling behavior.

[Benihana]

You're clearly trolling at this point, but yes, I"m fully aware they released a whole new roadmap, recently... that's the one we're talking about!

Dude, you're really offensive, "fo real", and you need to stop. Like now. Fo shurrr, dude. There is no justification for your appalling behavior.

You have to be the most absent minded user on the forums these days Tahn. Hows this, this is my thread and i'll make threads asking about whatever the heck I wanna ask to the devs.

You have a problem? Get over it and get a life.

You don't work for SE, you don't speak for SE and you never will.

It obviously escaped you, but this threads primary purpose is not about a freakin roadmap... or updating a roadmap. It was merely an obvservation used as a standing point for why the thread was created in the first place. It's about the additional relic,emp,mythic upgrades that were stated to be on the way. Considering we got an update on other content that is coming, I don't think even someone with your special needs shouldn't be able to grasp why the thread exists and its purpose.

Trolling? Dude you're in my thread going on about a roadmap, which is almost completely irrelevant to the point. I don't care about the roadmap in the least, it is missing from the roadmap but I don't care about that, I just would like an update on what theyre doing with those additional trials. Whys that so foreign to your you?

Have yourself a good night and thanks for keeping the thread alive Mr, forum police!

edit: oh i reread my initial post. I'm guessing you assumed "update prz" was asking them to update THE ROADMAP. LOL@U..... I couldnt have possibly been asking them for an update on what theyre doing with the trials... Yeah I was totally asking them to update the roadmap they just released. lmao...

[Alhanelem]

You don't work for SE, you don't speak for SE and you never will.I've never claimed to, nor am I acting as if I do, so please stop playing this tired old bleeping card.


It obviously escaped you, but this threads primary purpose is not about a freakin roadmap... or updating a roadmap.
Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean Weapon ADDITIONAL upgrades - not on roadmapIf it escaped me, then it escaped everyone, as "not on roadmap" is in the topic title. You're clearly complaining about something not being on the roadmap, so yes, that's what this thread is about.

in before you say that somehow this isn't what you mean and it should be obvious to me and everyone. If you mean something else, then say something else. You can't just assume that everyone is going to read your post exactly the way you were thinking as you wrote it, and then chastise them for not "getting it."

[FrankReynolds]

I thought this:


Since the roadmad doesnt make any mention of it, i am trying to get a dev to give us an update as to when they plan to impliment the features they had planned.
... was pretty friggin concise.

[wish12oz]

in before you say that somehow this isn't what you mean and it should be obvious to me and everyone. If you mean something else, then say something else. You can't just assume that everyone is going to read your post exactly the way you were thinking as you wrote it, and then chastise them for not "getting it."

I understood that he was asking "why are additional upgrades to relics/mythics/empyreans not on the latest timeline for implementation when you people at SE said you would be further upgrading them? Can we please have an update about what you plan on doing, and when you plan on doing it." the first time I read it.

[Benihana]

Thanks to the two above posters....

Anyway for those withouit reading comprehension (on forums and at SE), can we get an update from the devs?

It is my understanding the weapons with possible additional upgrades are likely some of the following:
Yagrush
Gambanteinn
Mjollnir
Laevatienn
Claustrum
Herverglmr
Murgleis
Exalibur
Carnwenhan
Gjallarhorn
Daurdabla
Tizona
Almace
Tupsimati
Guttler
Aymur
Farsha
Nirvana
Kenkoken

I listed the weapons who's main jobs are primarily either mage specific or pet specific. It would seem unlikely that they would buff the weapons that included multiple jobs on them that included other melee jobs (mainly excalibur, almace, but RDM and BLUs use those as well, although blue mage is not really considered a typical mage type, i went ahead and listed them anyway. Also didn't list DRG because DRG isn't really a "pet job" imo)

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Thanks to the two above posters....

Anyway for those withouit reading comprehension (on forums and at SE), can we get an update from the devs?

It is my understanding the weapons with possible additional upgrades are likely some of the following:
Yagrush
Gambanteinn
Mjollnir
Laevatienn
Claustrum
Herverglmr
Murgleis
Exalibur
Carnwenhan
Gjallarhorn
Daurdabla
Tizona
Almace
Tupsimati
Guttler
Aymur
Farsha
Nirvana
Kenkoken

I listed the weapons who's main jobs are primarily either mage specific or pet specific. It would seem unlikely that they would buff the weapons that included multiple jobs on them that included other melee jobs (mainly excalibur, almace, but RDM and BLUs use those as well, although blue mage is not really considered a typical mage type, i went ahead and listed them anyway. Also didn't list DRG because DRG isn't really a "pet job" imo)

Well one of them.

I get the feeling the unique spell, pet, ja etc will be Mythic exclusive.

[Chimerawizard]

I actually forgot about the missing pet/mage specific augment.

HELL YEA!~ I want that buff to relic/mythic/empy weapons for us.
just make the aftermath affect pets for pet specific weapons
as for the mage specific weapons... depends on the job, my blm wants lots of spell potency+

[Benihana]

if people reading the thread couldm "like"my original post id appreciate it. Really hoping for an update...

[Alhanelem]

Anyway for those withouit reading comprehension (on forums and at SE), can we get an update from the devs?You can't stop stabbing at people for one post can you?

[Benihana]

You can't stop stabbing at people for one post can you?

First, thanks for keeping my thread alive Mr. forum police!

I mean this with love and respect when I say, you very obviously just don't get it...As others have pointed out, this thread is not rocket science. The point is not the roadmap, but an update on content that is missing from it, after saying it was postponed to begin with. Why is this so hard for you to understand? I'm not taking stabs at you AS MUCH as I am pointing out your obliviousness to something that, to me, is very simple and concise..............

[Camiie]

Atomos wasn't on the road map either because he's not planned for this year much to my dismay. It could be the same for the R/M/E updates you're referring to. They're either planned for a later date just because they have to save something for later, or they still have way too much work to do for them to be ready this year.

[Zerich]

SE wants it to be a big grindfest to get mythics for one more year, and then nerf the requirements by raising alexandrite drops and/or easing on the other "duties".

[Benihana]

its my understanding tho that mytics are actually very powerful now, conquerer is the best great axe now to my knowledge with the occ attacks 2-3times. Theyre not rly gimp anymore, albeit minor upgrades from something much easier to get, but honestly, Ryonohig is excessively powerful. Theyre not longer lol imo. Worth 650m? no... but the melee ones are very nice.

btw plz like my original post for those of u who view this thread. very appreciate it. devs respond!

[detlef]

Mythics as melee weapons may be powerful but the job specific traits on the weapons seem to be lacking overall. It seems like they could be balanced to have a more significant effect that would help to justify their cost.

[Benihana]

I'm wondering what spells or pets they have in mind exactly.

I remember reading Krakbkhotoa would potentially be a pet summonable by the call beast ability.

Also Massacre elegy will undoubtedly be exclusive to one of the 3 brd ultimate weapons. I consider that spell to be kind of gamebreaking and it would seriously be an issue of game balance if it was available to a vast majority of players. 100% slow is too sick.

if new people reading thread could "like" my original post, id appreciate it, thanks.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I'm wondering what spells or pets they have in mind exactly.

I remember reading Krakbkhotoa would potentially be a pet summonable by the call beast ability.

Also Massacre elegy will undoubtedly be exclusive to one of the 3 brd ultimate weapons. I consider that spell to be kind of gamebreaking and it would seriously be an issue of game balance if it was available to a vast majority of players. 100% slow is too sick.

if new people reading thread could "like" my original post, id appreciate it, thanks.

Well it would be if most NM's wont completely resist it or normal moves count as TP moves.

[Alhanelem]

I am pointing out your obliviousness to something that, to me, is very simple and concise..............
to me, Operative words. Just because something is obvious and consice *to you* doesn't mean it is to everyone. This isn't due to a lack of intelligence or reasonsing either. Different people can read things different ways. Consider that before making an issue personal.

Especially considering the first line in your OP is the question "why is this missing from the roadmap?", it should be very understandable how someone could come to my conclusion.

Also please stop calling me the forum police. I'm not policing anything.

[Benihana]

Operative words. Just because something is obvious and consice *to you* doesn't mean it is to everyone. This isn't due to a lack of intelligence or reasonsing either. Different people can read things different ways. Consider that before making an issue personal.

Especially considering the first line in your OP is the question "why is this missing from the roadmap?", it should be very understandable how someone could come to my conclusion.

Also please stop calling me the forum police. I'm not policing anything.

Thus far, you're the only one in the thread who seems to be not catching on.

You can defend yourself or say I'm attacking you, it doesn't change the fact that you don't seem to be a very sharp individual....

I mean, if I wasn't already aware of the "no police", you would honestly have me raging or pulling my hair out at this point.

The only thing I'm oblivious to, is to why someone would take a very simple thread and use it as an opportunity to show off their vast levels of stupidity.

Next time i'll just USE VERY SMALL, SIMPLE WORDS ok?I truly didn't anticipate anyone to look at this thread and think it was rocket science. I greatly apologize for confusing you.

[FrankReynolds]

Operative words. Just because something is obvious and consice *to you* doesn't mean it is to everyone. This isn't due to a lack of intelligence or reasonsing either. Different people can read things different ways. Consider that before making an issue personal.

Especially considering the first line in your OP is the question "why is this missing from the roadmap?", it should be very understandable how someone could come to my conclusion.

Also please stop calling me the forum police. I'm not policing anything.

Please go beat your dead horse somewhere else.
http://www.viralblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dead-horse11.jpg

[Benihana]

his main job is SMN, surprised hes tearing the thread down instead of supporting it. Especially since his only emp is Hverglemir >.>;;

[Zerich]

his main job is SMN, surprised hes tearing the thread down instead of supporting it. Especially since his only emp is Hverglemir >.>;;

An empy that's useful to SMN-melee...
but seriously lol.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Where the hell are the moderators, whether you like someone or not this is internet bullying at it's finest.

[Benihana]

lol inc ultima for tupsimati!

[hiko]

Operative words. Just because something is obvious and consice *to you* doesn't mean it is to everyone. This isn't due to a lack of intelligence or reasonsing either. Different people can read things different ways. Consider that before making an issue personal.


everybody but you seem to understand it the way the OP wanted to.

[Alhanelem]

Thus far, you're the only one in the thread who seems to be not catching on.

You can defend yourself or say I'm attacking you, it doesn't change the fact that you don't seem to be a very sharp individual....

I mean, if I wasn't already aware of the "no police", you would honestly have me raging or pulling my hair out at this point.

The only thing I'm oblivious to, is to why someone would take a very simple thread and use it as an opportunity to show off their vast levels of stupidity.

Next time i'll just USE VERY SMALL, SIMPLE WORDS ok?I truly didn't anticipate anyone to look at this thread and think it was rocket science. I greatly apologize for confusing you.

You don't need to use "small simple words" and it has nothing to do with "sharpness." PLEASE stop being so insulting?

I'm not here to show off stupidity, or police anything. It's not like I predicted this outcume in making a comment. My interpreting your wording differently from what you expected people to is not due to a lack of intelligence. I won't bog you down further with the explanation, but you're being very offensive over a simple misunderstanding and I only ask that you realize that and react civilly.

[Benihana]

My interpreting your wording differently from what you expected people to is not due to a lack of intelligence.

Sure it is! It absolutely is...

I've basically rounded up your interpretation of what I rote into one word(or lack thereof):


WHOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Alhanelem]

Sure it is! It absolutely is...

I've basically rounded up your interpretation of what I rote into one word(or lack thereof):


WHOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I can round up your interpretation of what I wrote in one word:
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Reported and blacklisted. It's quite clear you're not capable of resolving such issues in a civil manner.

[Benihana]

I can round up your interpretation of what I wrote in one word:
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Reported and blacklisted. It's quite clear you're not capable of resolving such issues in a civil manner.

The only thing that's clear is the subject of the thread and your complete inability to read and comprehend it.

[Zerich]

Sure it is! It absolutely is...

I've basically rounded up your interpretation of what I rote into one word(or lack thereof):


WHOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

stop, if you're trying to be funny, you're failing.

if you're trying to form some kind of argument, you're still failing.

[Dragoy]

I do agree that more information about this would be nice to be had.

On another note, they clearly stated that the adjustments were postponed, did they not? So why make the thread look like they should add this into the road-map? Meaning the tit-le certainly is more and/or less distracting to say the least.

Attacking users stating this is surely not for the best interest of the topic, I would think.


You are of course free to do whatever you want to, but currently, how it seems to me, the thread is going towards a not-so-pleasant place... ^^;

Just sayin'~

[Benihana]

I do agree that more information about this would be nice to be had.

On another note, they clearly stated that the adjustments were postponed, did they not? So why make the thread look like they should add this into the road-map? Meaning the tit-le certainly is more and/or less distracting to say the least.

Attacking users stating this is surely not for the best interest of the topic, I would think.


You are of course free to do whatever you want to, but currently, how it seems to me, the thread is going towards a not-so-pleasant place... ^^;

Just sayin'~

I agree, an thank you for coming at me respectfully. I cannot augment the thread title, if someone knows how, i'l hapilly get on it.

The whole thread is intended to bring focus to the postponed trials. All things regarding the roadmap were nothing more than an observation that prompted me to start the thread. If they had mentioned it on the roadmap, I wouldnt have bothered making a thread. I'm quite simply just looking for an update.

[Dragoy]

Benihana,

Indeed. It's something only those with them powers of moderation can do (change titles). No idea why they thought that is a good idea but then again, there's a lot that is amiss in this forum.

Either way, I am sure it will still get the attention of the community representatives, and your message will be heard... eventually!

[Chimerawizard]

You don't need to use "small simple words" and it has nothing to do with "sharpness." PLEASE stop being so insulting?
...

You sir, are the only troll in here. and... Why did you make that exclamation into a question?! as is, it isn't a sentance.

I suggest everyone just ignore his posts unless you feel like egging him on anymore unless he actually posts something that adds to the discussion on topic.

devs. plz give a reply: the team forgot about this, decided to not implement it, STILL looking into it or somethin' else.

[Camiie]

Where the hell are the moderators, whether you like someone or not this is internet bullying at it's finest.

Agreed. I hate playing backseat moderator, but there's no civil discussion here. If people want to fight I'm sure there's plenty of online venues out there for that express purpose.

[Alhanelem]

Why did you make that exclamation into a question?!Because it is a question?

You're trolling me right now. There was absolutely no point to that comment other than to bait me back here. The person who is provoking another is the troll. I never came here to provoke or incite animosity among anyone. You are the one who is doing that.

[Benihana]

anywayyyyyy

any news from the devs?

[Benihana]

don't wan to sound like a begger, but i'd like us all to put aside our differences and support the forum in getting more responses from devs. The jp board works together and we should as well.

Can I get some "likes" on the original op post and support posts on here? Apologies to tahn for being rude.

[VoiceMemo]

Hopefully even though it's not explicitly stated in the 2012 roadmap it falls under the "Fine-Tuning based on player feedback" section.