Legendary Weapons

[Cursed]

Hi SE.
Lets make a 4th group of amazing weapons called Legendary Weapons.
to attain them you need to have Lv.99 empyrean, mythic and relic of the weapon group.

Make them amazingly overpowered.

[Nvr]

I hope SE would not encourage someone to spend so much time out of their real life obtaining one of each relic weapons to obtain yet another, overpowered, weapon; however, relic etc. will most likely get easier and easier to get which would make it a more reasonable accomplishment. But still...

[Cursed]

I hope SE would not encourage someone to spend so much time out of their real life obtaining one of each relic weapons to obtain yet another, overpowered, weapon; however, relic etc. will most likely get easier and easier to get which would make it a more reasonable accomplishment. But still...

some of us have been playing this game for almost 10 years.
Getting a relic over the period of 2 years only requires 4-6 hours of gameplay a week. that's a lot less than even the most casual of FFXI players.
Getting a mythic weapon only really requires 1 year of 4-5 hours gameplay a week depending on alexandrites and success with T3 znms and drops, dedication of group etc. I would argue Mythics are probably the hardest of the 3 to attain, so funny that they are the worst.
Empyreans require 3-4 months at a very conservative play rate. or 3-5 days at a none-stop heavy 10 hour/day grind.

Anyone who started playing this game in 2002/'03 could easily have attained all 3 by now, and many people do, as well as other goodies. I know at least 20 players who have several relics and several empyreans and maybe 1 mythic.

[Nvr]

I guess I should clarify because the point of my post was abviously missed.

My point was, taking the time to obtain all 3 weapons is and ordeal. Mainly because of the dedication it takes to obtain them. While 4-6 hours a week is not alot, to be required to plan your life to be able to attend the events needed to do so for 1-2 times a week for 2 years certainly is alot, and that is to obtain 1 of the 3 weapons. You can say it is not alot, but for a normal person, there is no doubt that it is. That being said, for someone to have put that much work to obtain 3 of them, if SE was to add an award, I would hope that it would not be a 4th weapon to make the other 3 obsolite.

[Cursed]

I guess I should clarify because the point of my post was abviously missed.

My point was, taking the time to obtain all 3 weapons is and ordeal. Mainly because of the dedication it takes to obtain them. While 4-6 hours a week is not alot, to be required to plan your life to be able to attend the events needed to do so for 1-2 times a week for 2 years certainly is alot, and that is to obtain 1 of the 3 weapons. You can say it is not alot, but for a normal person, there is no doubt that it is. That being said, for someone to have put that much work to obtain 3 of them, if SE was to add an award, I would hope that it would not be a 4th weapon to make the other 3 obsolite.

I'm not saying everyone should have these weapons. That's my point. Veterans of war are rewarded in real life by attaining higher rank.
In anything in life, the longer you do something, the more senior you become.
Old school players like myself who have played from Beta are parting ways with SE because we are not being rewarded for all the effort we put into our characters. On the contrary, we are actually being punished by seeing our prized relics and armor become obsolete and worthless.
Its is shamefull that something that took me years to attain is inferior to something a person who started playing 1 month ago has attained in 1 week.

These legendary weapons should not be for the new players, nor should new players have a realistic chance at attaining them without some ridiculous form of punishment and torture.

[JagerForrester]

You know, for some reason, for not owning a single relic, mythic, or empyrean weapon yet, I'm intrigued. Maybe it's got to do with the word "legendary..."

[Rambus]

problem...

what do bow users do? there is no bow mythic, there is no mythic gun that rngs can use
there is no xbow emp weapons.

I can extend on this though, maybe if you are a rng and have the emp bow and the mythic crossbow you could fuse them and get the emp ws on the mythic crossbow?

same with relics, let them have the emp weapon ws somehow.

[Cursed]

Sword-Gram (PLD)
Sword- Colada (BLU)
Sword- Tyrfing (RDM)
Katanas-Gan Jiang and Mo Ye (wouldn be cool if SE made the legendary Katanas a set of two, instead of a single katana)
Great Katana -Ame-no-nuboko (SAM)
Polearm - Rhongomiant (DRG)
Daggers - (THF & DNC) Carnwennan and Flixith (since THF and DNC get native DW now)
H2H - Tianlong (MNK/PUP)
Axe - Perun (WAR/BST)
Great Axe -Parasurama (WAR)
Scythe -Acheron (DRK)
Great Sword - (WAR/DRK/PLD) Vaishnavaastra
Shield - (PLD)Mambrino
String Instrument -Pan's flute
Gun- BFG
Bow - Outlaw

[Rambus]

Sword-Gram (PLD)
Sword- Colada (BLU)
Sword- Tyrfing (RDM)
Katanas-Gan Jiang and Mo Ye (wouldn be cool if SE made the legendary Katanas a set of two, instead of a single katana)
Great Katana -Ame-no-nuboko (SAM)
Polearm - Rhongomiant (DRG)
Daggers - (THF & DNC) Carnwennan and Flixith (since THF and DNC get native DW now)
H2H - Tianlong (MNK/PUP)
Axe - Perun (WAR/BST)
Great Axe -Parasurama (WAR)
Scythe -Acheron (DRK)
Great Sword - (WAR/DRK/PLD) Vaishnavaastra
Shield - (PLD)Mambrino
String Instrument -Pan's flute
Gun- BFG
Bow - Outlaw

BFG? shame I can't say what i think that means.

the pair thing, that is what i never understood, there should be a pair of them, allow different stats so the main and and offhand is apperent.

these weapons you are proposing though? how do you sugest getting them? whay about the situations i listed where there is not a relic/ mythic/ emp weapon for each type.

[Cursed]

BFG? shame I can't say what i think that means.

the pair thing, that is what i never understood, there should be a pair of them, allow different stats so the main and and offhand is apperent.

these weapons you are proposing though? how do you sugest getting them? whay about the situations i listed where there is not a relic/ mythic/ emp weapon for each type.

like shield, bow, gun, horn/harp, greatsword?
I would say just reduce the requirements for them. I never understood why they overlooked them with mythic versions.
Instead of needing all 3 (relic/mythic/empyrean) for the above mentioned just require relic/empyrean.

The weapons I posted, are arguably the top tier weapons of their type in the earth's collective traditional folklore.
the GK for example, is much greater than any masamune or murusame. Its the GK that split Japan from the asian mainland and has great cultural meaning to the japanese. You can google them and see they is some pretty cool legend attached to each.

[Rambus]

like shield, bow, gun, horn/harp, greatsword?
I would say just reduce the requirements for them. I never understood why they overlooked them with mythic versions.
Instead of needing all 3 (relic/mythic/empyrean) for the above mentioned just require relic/empyrean.

The weapons I posted, are arguably the top tier weapons of their type in the earth's collective traditional folklore.
the GK for example, is much greater than any masamune or murusame. Its the GK that split Japan from the asian mainland and has great cultural meaning to the japanese. You can google them and see they is some pretty cool legend attached to each.

Bow (RNG) > relic/ emp
Bow (SAM) > relic only
crossbow > mythic only
gun (COR)> mythic/ emp
gun (RNG)> Relic/emp
shield > relic/ emp
instruments> relic (horn)/ emp (string), not even the same type
BRD dagger > relic/ mythic/ emp
DNC dagger > Mythic / Emp
THF dagger > relic /mythic/ emp

point with dagger is that brd, dnc, thf use the weapons in different ways, thus how does that effect the result of the fusion? BRD using relic dagger does nothing for BRD's primary function.

Sword (BLU)> mythic/ emp
Sword (RDM/PLD) relic >mythic>emp

(like with dagger, sword fuction is way different for the jobs)

Great sword (war) > relic
Great sword (PLD/DRK) Relic/ emp
Axe ( bst) > relic /mythic/ emp
Axe ( War) > emp

Staff (BLM/SMN)> relic/ mythic/ emp
Staff (SCH) > mythic/ emp

I think thats all the conflits that exists for a fusion of weapons

This is why fusion quests can't work, there be too much left out ( like SAM using bow, war using axe) and so on. There is that issue or the fact some jobs might have OP issues ( like sam using a super, ultra bow)
sam with that relic bow is a fuzzy issue though, if SE makes that weapon strong again I guess it wouldn't matter. I still think there is too much conflict with weapons and job functions ( mythics where ment to be more job function then relics/ emps) relics and emps are just damage so emp club, emp staff are more appealing to magic casters then the other weapons.

I love the idea of fusion weapons like this thread suggests but stuff like i said needs to be work out. I think those problems would be overwhelming to implement such a thing.

Anddddd I am a bit offended you would make best brd instrument swring, strings suck and im sure the emp sucks if you marco, the only thing spechal about it is 3 songs.... ooooooooooooooh

[Cowardlybabooon]

I would really like to see some superpowered mage weapons. Maybe some double damage or instacast stuff. Mythic took a stab at it but really didn't produce much. Atma makes them insignificant now.

[Panthera]

There is no doubt in my mind that SE will come out with another set of weapons for LV 99 that will be the "new" "Ultimate Weapons." I doubt they'd have the requirements the OP mentioned, though. They would undoubtedly be related to new content.

[Arcon]

I actually kinda like the idea, although it would be hard to combine them. Some weapon classes don't have representatives in each category (no mythic bow for example), neither do some jobs (no BLU relic). If there could be found a way around that, I would quite like the thought of implementing that option.


Sword-Gram (PLD)
Sword- Colada (BLU)
Sword- Tyrfing (RDM)
Katanas-Gan Jiang and Mo Ye (wouldn be cool if SE made the legendary Katanas a set of two, instead of a single katana)
Great Katana -Ame-no-nuboko (SAM)
Polearm - Rhongomiant (DRG)
Daggers - (THF & DNC) Carnwennan and Flixith (since THF and DNC get native DW now)
H2H - Tianlong (MNK/PUP)
Axe - Perun (WAR/BST)
Great Axe -Parasurama (WAR)
Scythe -Acheron (DRK)
Great Sword - (WAR/DRK/PLD) Vaishnavaastra
Shield - (PLD)Mambrino
String Instrument -Pan's flute
Gun- BFG
Bow - Outlaw

Very nice topic. Also, very nice choices. Although for a Polearm, Gungnir would be more fitting imo (although I know it's already been used). That, or Ame-no-nuboko (a naginata classifies as a polearm more than a sword imo). Personally I love Bravura as a name for Great Axe. Even if it's not named after a real/mythological weapon, it fits the WAR spirit really well.

I especially agree on Gram and Pan's Flute. Gan Jiang and Mo Ye are also nice choices, although I don't know if chinese names would go well for traditionally japanese swords.

[Karbuncle]

BFG is from (I think among other games) "Doom". It was the "best" gun in the Doom Series.

It stands for "big F**king gun" (Jokingly? maybe).

[Mirage]

It's also in Quake games, I think. I know it was ridiculously overpowered in Q3A.

I don't think it's jokingly, though. It is a big *** gun.

[Meldity]

This idea is so ridiculous it wins.

[Anewie]

i love this idea

[Mezzopiano]

If something like this happens, then please, for the love of Altana, make the mage weapons genuinely useful. It's painful seeing all three of relic, mythic, and empyrean outpaced by a set of level 51 staves.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Hi SE.
Lets make a 4th group of amazing weapons called Legendary Weapons.
to attain them you need to have Lv.99 empyrean, mythic and relic of the weapon group.

Make them amazingly overpowered.Relic Mythic Empyrean Voltron Force Go!
Make it so you have to do every relic, mythic and empyrean and then do a quest to merge them into a single all jobs weapon.(No, not a spoon.)

[Atomic_Skull]

I like the idea but I dislike the name because it sounds too WoW-ish.

[Cursed]

I like the idea but I dislike the name because it sounds to WoW-ish.

Ultimate is a bit too "Ben-10" and Epic was already taken.

[Tommykun]

Well, to be honest, Magians is supposed to provide for the Lv.99 equipment from what I've seen. We still don't really have weapons that would be considered "epic" from the Magian system. I'm quite sure this will be remedied when the cap is adjusted and the Lv.99 content comes down the line.