I know we will hear it on SUN so I am going to say it now.......

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Don't expect this game to come back up on SUN, even though SE said "no less then a week" many people translate that to "only a week" It could be down two weeks, three, or even a month or two. In away I know this thread is pointless, but I am sure we will hear it, by SUN some will start whining because the servers are not back up "like SE said they would"

[Dreamers]

They actually said at least a week, not no more than a week.


The services will be temporarily suspended for at least a week starting on Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT). We will provide an update regarding the reinstatement of the service as additional information becomes available. In connection with the temporary suspension of services, players will not be billed for any PlayOnline service throughout the April billing cycle. Additional information regarding this matter will also be posted as it becomes available.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your understanding of this unusual situations.

[Rocman]

I didnt see "no less then a week" what i read was "At least a week" same difference i guess but your right, dont get your hopes up i have a bad feeling that it might be down atleast a month....

[Alhanelem]

I doubt anyone here expects the game to be back that soon. "A week" should be treated as the absolute rock-bottom minimum, e.g., not likely at all.

[Dale]

Don't expect this game to come back up on SUN, even though SE said "no less then a week" many people translate that to "only a week" It could be down two weeks, three, or even a month or two. In away I know this thread is pointless, but I am sure we will hear it, by SUN some will start whining because the servers are not back up "like SE said they would"

Ok i feel i have to comment on this.

This is a forum, where people are suppose to voice their discontent with things. That isn't "whining", it's participating on a forum and sharing your views and opinions about the way Square Enix is doing things, rather they be negative or positive.

This current theme so many players on this forum are on - being the relentless trashing of any poster who doesn't post gooey love letters to square - needs to end now. If the game isn't up by Sunday like they are hoping, players have every right to let the company know how they feel. This is a forum. Let them be heard. Negative feedback is just as important to a company's success as is positive feedback, if not even more so.

[Danstens]

With no billing for April, they've allotted for a lot longer than just a week. They deserve as much time as possible though.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Ok i feel i have to comment on this.

This is a forum, where people are suppose to voice their discontent with things. That isn't "whining", it's participating on a forum and sharing your views and opinions about the way Square Enix is doing things, rather they be negative or positive.

This current theme so many players on this forum are on - being the relentless trashing of any poster who doesn't post gooey love letters to square - needs to end now. If the game isn't up by Sunday like they are hoping, players have every right to let the company know how they feel. This is a forum. Let them be heard. Negative feedback is just as important to a company's success as is positive feedback, if not even more so.

and here is example #1 ;p

[Antonioklaus]

ya, it really doesn't look good with that reactor. There are already wind projections showing where the fall out might hit. It's pretty scary but no less than any other disaster. Oil, coal, nuclear, they all have issues. It's sad ppl are acting they way they are. Green peace ppl crying about shutting down all nuclear reactors. Stupid ppl on facebook posting about Pearl Harbor. It's really sad that people can't just see this as Earth. Maybe one day when we discover other life, it will be "Humans" vs "Some other alien race" instead of American vs ....

[Henihhi]

As long as they mathematically challenged keep entertaining me with their "i dont need swaps, gimme gear posts" SE can take as long as it wants

[Kailea_Nagisa]

ya, it really doesn't look good with that reactor. There are already wind projections showing where the fall out might hit. It's pretty scary but no less than any other disaster. Oil, coal, nuclear, they all have issues. It's sad ppl are acting they way they are. Green peace ppl crying about shutting down all nuclear reactors. Stupid ppl on facebook posting about Pearl Harbor. It's really sad that people can't just see this as Earth. Maybe one day when we discover other life, it will be "Humans" vs "Some other alien race" instead of American vs ....

still waiting for my warp drive ;p

[Dale]

and here is example #1 ;p

um, an example of what?

[Rocman]

D2 (Can i have it?) ^^

[Dale]

ya, it really doesn't look good with that reactor. There are already wind projections showing where the fall out might hit. It's pretty scary but no less than any other disaster. Oil, coal, nuclear, they all have issues. It's sad ppl are acting they way they are. Green peace ppl crying about shutting down all nuclear reactors. Stupid ppl on facebook posting about Pearl Harbor. It's really sad that people can't just see this as Earth. Maybe one day when we discover other life, it will be "Humans" vs "Some other alien race" instead of American vs ....

I see no one serious who is protraying this crisis in that kind of light lol

Americans have already been radiated trying to help Japan. A few crazies on facebook mean nothing and certainly don't represent the reality.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

um, an example of what?

look at what you posted, and then go read what SE said about the down time, and read my post again.

SE said (not perfect quote but) "at least a week" or as I said it "no less then a week"

many people will read this as "just a week" and then on SUN when everything is still down, they will whine and bitch.

[Dale]

look at what you posted, and then go read what SE said about the down time, and read my post again.

SE said (not perfect quote but) "at least a week" or as I said it "no less then a week"

many people will read this as "just a week" and then on SUN when everything is still down, they will whine and bitch.

Yes well like I said, voicing discontent about how a company is performing on a forum created for that very purpose isn't "whining and bitching", it's doing what you are suppose to do on a forum. This is the place to let Square Enix know if you got a problem with them. That's what forums are designed for. It is the purpose of forums.

I"m still waiting to hear what my earlier post was an example of though.

[RAIST]

perhaps they were formulating a plan to move off-site, and will be able to get the games back up before Japan gets power restored to reasonable levels. Who knows? We just need to wait for an update from SE on just what is going on.

Raist

[Alhanelem]

This is a forum, where people are suppose to voice their discontent with things.While people have a tenancy to come to a forum because they want to complain about something, that doesn't mean that complaining should be the only discussion that takes place.

[Dale]

perhaps they were formulating a plan to move off-site, and will be able to get the games back up before Japan gets power restored to reasonable levels. Who knows? We just need to wait for an update from SE on just what is going on.

Raist

Hope so. I made a thread earlier suggesting they consider something like that if the power issues in Japan aren't stabilized soon. A suggestion I was endlessly flamed for I may add lol But I do hope it is something they are considering.

[Dale]

While people have a tenancy to come to a forum because they want to complain about something, that doesn't mean that complaining should be the only discussion that takes place.

And I never said it should be the only discussion that takes place :)

I clearly pointed out forums are a place where both negative and positive feedback should be shared, and a poster shouldn't be attacked personally for doing either.

[HFX7686]

I'm going to be greatly disappointed if people complain about the game not being up after a week.

Forums might be the place to voice discontent but this is not the time to voice discontent.

[Yarly]

I doubt anyone here expects the game to be back that soon.
Then you're in for a surprise when the week is up.

[Dale]

I'm going to be greatly disappointed if people complain about the game not being up after a week.

Forums might be the place to voice discontent but this is not the time to voice discontent.

Well prepare to be greatly disappointed, because you will be. However - remember just because you feel their opinions are ill-timed doesn't make it appropriate or justified to insult and attack them on a personal level.

[Zaknafein]

If they're moronic enough to complain that a video game has been been offline for 8 days after a serious ongoing natural disaster they deserve what ever they get.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

With no billing for April, they've allotted for a lot longer than just a week. They deserve as much time as possible though.No, it's because they're not going to refund march for everyone. It's just an easier stop gap measure.

[Dale]

If they're moronic enough to complain that a video game has been been offline for 8 days after a serious ongoing natural disaster they deserve what ever they get.

No they don't.

A lot of people are going to be upest if the servers are not back up soon, and they got every right to let Square Enix know how they feel. They are paying customers, and it's not up to people on forums to play God with other member's posts and decide what is a "good" post and what is an "evil" post deserving of their righteous internet judgement lol

That is the moderator's job. Leave it at that. No need to turn every thread that voices anger or discontent about the server's going down into a flame war with a lot of chidish namecalling and over-the-top internet melodrama.

[RAIST]

please... for the love of all that is good.. enough with these threads about how long things will be down. How about taking some time and looking into what all is going on over there and show a little common sense. I've even compiled a list of sources where you can get some real-time information on the subject (link in my sig). But here's a short list:

over 10,000 people dead, over 500,000 people have been evacuated from areas causing a housing problem, almost 7000 buildings destroyed, 1/3 of one reactor is verified to be gone, over 2/3 of another (in other words, they've lost a lot of electricity), something like 16,000 people still unaccounted for, and 1/3 of Tokyo is without power throughout half the day due to the rolling blackout schedule. There is a gas shortage, and they are having to ration sales...just a matter of time until this may spills over into other resources as well. Nearly every manufacturing facility has halted production or shut down operations completely. Their stockmarket has taken serious hits the past couple days and that's probly going to cause a long term backlash in the world market.

In short... Japan is more or less FUBAR atm, and getting an online game back up and running is NOT that high a priority atm, even for a company like SE that relies heavily on it's games...it has to protect all of it's core assets first. FFXI and FFXIV are not what keep SE afloat--they may be a part of it, but only a small portion.

Give it time people.

Raist

Edit (@ Dale) and yes, we do pay for a service when it is up... but SE has already declared we will not be charged for one month of service already. If the outage extends further, they mayextend that credit longer as well.

[Zaknafein]

No they don't.

A lot of people are going to be upest if the servers are not back up soon, and they got every right to let Square Enix know how they feel. They are paying customers, and it's not up to people on forums to play God with other member's posts and decide what is a "good" post and what is an "evil" post deserving of their righteous internet judgement lol

That is the moderator's job. Leave it at that. No need to turn every thread that voices anger or discontent about the server's going down into a flame war with a lot of chidish namecalling and over-the-top internet melodrama.

If you can't understand the difference between normal whining, and complaining.
Vs.
Doing it when a country has been thrown into turmoil, and many of the employee's have lost loved ones, and family members. When the country is continuing to face a nuclear crisis.

Then there is no point to even attempt an intelligent debate. Congratulations on your tastelessness.

[Dale]

please... for the love of all that is good.. enough with these threads about how long things will be down. How about taking some time and looking into what all is going on over there and show a little common sense. I've even compiled a list of sources where you can get some real-time information on the subject (link in my sig). But here's a short list:

over 10,000 people dead, over 500,000 people have been evacuated from areas causing a housing problem, almost 7000 buildings destroyed, 1/3 of one reactor is verified to be gone, over 2/3 of another (in other words, they've lost a lot of electricity), something like 16,000 people still unaccounted for, and 1/3 of Tokyo is without power throughout half the day due to the rolling blackout schedule. There is a gas shortage, and they are having to ration sales...just a matter of time until this may spills over into other resources as well. Nearly every manufacturing facility has halted production or shut down operations completely. Their stockmarket has taken serious hits the past couple days and that's probly going to cause a long term backlash in the world market.

In short... Japan is more or less FUBAR atm, and getting an online game back up and running is NOT that high a priority atm, even for a company like SE that relies heavily on it's games...it has to protect all of it's core assets first. FFXI and FFXIV are not what keep SE afloat--they may be a part of it, but only a small portion.

Give it time people.

Raist

Raist, this is a forum about FINAL FANTASY 11 THE ONLINE GAME. Therefore - I think if common sense is going to dictate anything, it's going to be that threads about this online game and how long it's going to be shut down and not playable will continue to be something players discuss and are interested in. Why players talking about this always turns into such a issue is what truly defies common sense lol

Yes - there was a MAJOR Earthquake in Japan. Yes it is "estimated" 10,000 people could be dead. It is a horrific terrible tragedy. But that doens't change the fact this is a forum about Final Fantasy 11, an online video game. This is an online video game forum. So naturally the video game is going to be discussed, and the fact the servers have been suspended is of course going to be a popular topic of discussion.

If it bothers people that a video game is being discussed at a time like this, then really the last place you should be is on a video game forum. That is common sense lol

[Kailea_Nagisa]

besides I am not being negative, I am looking at this in a more realist view, as many here do, but sadly many more do not.

When I read what SE posted "at least a week" and continued to watch the news and such, I knew right away that there was no way in hell this game was going to come back in a week, so I planned ahead and started to play some of my back stock of games from my collection, and what ever months SE does not bill me for, I will donate to the Red Cross.

Honestly wish I could go over there and help myself, but I dont think they could do anything with a Dell tech over there ;p or the fact that I could not pay my bills if I left -.-

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Raist, this is a forum about FINAL FANTASY 11 THE ONLINE GAME. Therefore - I think if common sense is going to dictate anything, it's going to be that threads about this online game and how long it's going to be shut down and not playable will continue to be something players discuss and are interested in. Why players talking about this always turns into such a issue is what truly defies common sense lol

Yes - there was a MAJOR Earthquake in Japan. Yes it is "estimated" 10,000 people could be dead. It is a horrific terrible tragedy. But that doens't change the fact this is a forum about Final Fantasy 11, an online video game. This is an online video game forum. So naturally the video game is going to be discussed, and the fact the servers have been suspended is of course going to be a popular topic of discussion.

If it bothers people that a video game is being discussed at a time like this, then really the last place you should be is on a video game forum. That is common sense lol

that is not the problem........ the problem is people expecting SE to make FFXI/FFXIV a priority, when in all really I am sure SE at the current moment does not care if the servers floated away some where, they are more worried about their employees and their community.

[Dale]

If you can't understand the difference between normal whining, and complaining.
Vs.
Doing it when a country has been thrown into turmoil, and many of the employee's have lost loved ones, and family members. When the country is continuing to face a nuclear crisis.

Then there is no point to even attempt an intelligent debate. Congratulations on your tastelessness.

I didn't personalize my post Zak, which is the mistake you are making. I never stated an opinion one way or the other rather I thought it was "tasteful" to do so or not, so you are making unfair attacks.

People have a right on this forum to tell SE what they think. The fact you feel their post is "tasteless" doesn't make it appropriate for you to then turn around and flame them because you disagree with the timing of their posts. You aren't the moderator, and it's not your job. That was my point. It had nothing to do with tastes.

[RAIST]

Thank you Kailea... at least someone gets it.

SE announced they were reviewing their options and may have to take servers off-line.

Then, they announced they would be taking them offline, but not sure for how long.

Then, they announced they would announce more details about the situation at a later time.

We need to give them time to figure out just what their options are and go from there. Do you honestly thing they would risk bringing things back online when under the thread of a catastrophic loss of data?

Raist

[Dale]

that is not the problem........ the problem is people expecting SE to make FFXI/FFXIV a priority, when in all really I am sure SE at the current moment does not care if the servers floated away some where, they are more worried about their employees and their community.

Kailea, you are missing my point. That point being this is a forum dedicated to Final Fantasy 11 the Online game. If threads making the subject matter of the forum a priority bothers you, then this is probably not a good forum for you to be hanging out at.

I understand you feel priorities should be placed elsewhere. But those are your beliefs. That doesn't change the framework of this forum, nor does it mean members are not allowed to discuss their discontent about the servers being shut down. This is a forum about Final Fantasy 11, not the earthquake in Japan - so naturally it is going to attract a lot of people who are interested in playing Final Fantasy 11 and are anxious to see the servers back in operation.

People need to accept this already and move on, else we are going to continuously see flame wars erupt everytime someone talks about wanting the servers going back up.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

SE should just buy their own nuclear plant.

[Harpalina]

To be perfectly honest...you're not going to make every person happy. There's bound to be people upset over FFXI not being able to be up and running within the estimated time that was posted in the announcement. I'm upset that I can't get my daily fix of FFXI...who isn't? My life isn't going to stop because I can't merit or level my DRG to ubersome levels. People are going to have to accept that they can't change SE's decisions to close down the servers for a week *or more*. It is what it is. I think SE was incredibly generous for not billing their customers for the month of April, considering the fact that IF the servers were only to be down for a week, we wouldn't have to worry about a bill until May. But unfortunately due to the ongoing crisis that is going on in Japan, I wouldn't hold my breath. Play another game to pass the time people...I know I am.

[Dale]

SE should just buy their own nuclear plant.

Tsukino, there are more realistic options, like the one i mentioned earlier. If the power grids in Japan arent' stabilized soonish they could always move their servers offshore and power them there until things calm down in Japan.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Tsukino, there are more realistic options, like the one i mentioned earlier. If the power grids in Japan arent' stabilized soonish they could always move their servers offshore and power them there until things calm down in Japan.So we can get a US button? lol

[katoplepa]

all because of H.A.A.R.P.

anyway, this is a disaster and maybe Square employees can have lost their house, parents, and so on... try to fit their shoes and think about YOU in that condition: your first priority have to be open servers to let people play a videogame?
and last but not least : the decision to shut down for lack of electricity is a government decision, also Honda, Nissan and Toyota had shut down, is not a personal decision of Square...

[Dale]

So we can get a US button? lol

I don't care what country they move to, as long as the servers go back up :)

[Detoxy]

Um just because this is a FF11 forum dont mean we cant talk about whatever we want. Use ur brain DR.Phil.

[Dale]

all because of H.A.A.R.P.

anyway, this is a disaster and maybe Square employees can have lost their house, parents, and so on... try to fit their shoes and think about YOU in that condition: your first priority have to be open servers to let people play a videogame?
and last but not least : the decision to shut down for lack of electricity is a government decision, also Honda, Nissan and Toyota had shut down, is not a personal decision of Square...

Well Katoplepa, from a personal viewpoint, since for some reason people on this forum seem to want to personalize everything, i've had my house flooded before with no electricity and power (mulitple times actually) and believe it or not I was thinking about video games at the time, and how bored I was and how I wish i had something to do. It's amazing how boring life is when the weather is awful outside and you have no electricity. So from my view point, the natural disasters i have endured actually made me appreciate video games more, not less :)

[Dale]

Um just because this is a FF11 forum dont mean we cant talk about whatever we want. Use ur brain DR.Phil.

Um Detoxy, maybe you should take your own advice and use your brain to read what I actually post perhaps :)

I never said you coudn't talk about what ever you wanted. What I did say however was it was very silly to condemn people for talking about a Video Game on a forum about that Video Game. But i do love how you twisted what I said to make some cheap internet point and cleverly ommited to quote me.

[Kirana]

My guess is that by sometime next week they will at least start running the servers again part-time (maybe 4-8 hours a day). However, I don't expect the servers to be up full-time anytime soon.

[Dale]

My guess is that by sometime next week they will at least start running the servers again part-time (maybe 4-8 hours a day). However, I don't expect the servers to be up full-time anytime soon.

Well I hope you're wrong. But - if it becomes clear the servers are going to be down long-term as you think i really do hope they consider some alternatives, like for example moving off-shore to power their servers until the dust settles.

[Harpalina]

This is getting a little hostile...can't we just agree to disagree on this topic? Both parties make valid points...I don't see why there should be conflict like this lol.

[Skybrit]

I'm thinking 2-3 months at best.

[Dale]

This is getting a little hostile...can't we just agree to disagree on this topic? Both parties make valid points...I don't see why there should be conflict like this lol.

I don't see why either.

All people have to do is refrain from getting personal and flaming each other and they won't :)

[Tsukino_Kaji]

This is getting a little hostile...can't we just agree to disagree on this topic? Both parties make valid points...I don't see why there should be conflict like this lol.Nearly all of the emotion and/or intent you're getting from any post is what you're putting there yourself.

[HFX7686]

Well prepare to be greatly disappointed, because you will be. However - remember just because you feel their opinions are ill-timed doesn't make it appropriate or justified to insult and attack them on a personal level.

It is always justified, and more importantly ethical and moral, to tell someone that they are saying (or writing) something that is inappropriate.

Demanding that the servers for a video game be turned back on when the country is undergoing three huge disasters and is trying to conserve power is unethical and immoral.

Why are you so scared of "personal attacks"? From what I have seen of posters on this forum anyone who disagrees with someone else is making a personal attack. People need to grow up and accept responsibility for their speech: you are free to say whatever you want, but you are not free from disagreement.

[RAIST]

My guess is that by sometime next week they will at least start running the servers again part-time (maybe 4-8 hours a day). However, I don't expect the servers to be up full-time anytime soon.

The problem is, they likely can't have services up like that reliably. EVERY block of the rollout has a portion of tokyo without power. Each block is roughly 3.5 hours. Though the servers would likely only go down for one, maybe 2 of those 3.5 hour blocks each day--other devices critical to the transfer of data could be down at other times. So, it's possible that services could be up at SE, but the node alllowing access to the internet is down.

It's just too messed up right now to insure stability. GE is sending 10 Gas Turbine Generators in to help shore up the energy supply while they try to get a handle on things. With any luck, it may stave off the rolling blackout situation and things start to get back to some sense of normal power-wise soon.

Raist

[Zackan]

I see another problem, i dont know if its a real problem or not but...
Isn't half this games playerbase japanese? How many of these players lost these homes and even if the servers do come back that half of the playerbase wont be back due to circumstances out of there control? Really i want the servers back up as much as anyone, but have a heart about the situation.

Offshoring there servers could be a solution, Isnt The SE branch located in San Diego like that Main branch outside of Japan?

[HFX7686]

The problem is, they likely can't have services up like that reliably. EVERY block of the rollout has a portion of tokyo without power. Each block is roughly 3.5 hours. Though the servers would likely only go down for one, maybe 2 of those 3.5 hour blocks each day--other devices critical to the transfer of data could be down at other times. So, it's possible that services could be up at SE, but the node alllowing access to the internet is down.

It's just too messed up right now to insure stability. GE is sending 10 Gas Turbine Generators in to help shore up the energy supply while they try to get a handle on things. With any luck, it may stave off the rolling blackout situation and things start to get back to some sense of normal power-wise soon.

Raist

That is something that I did not think of. I did think that it would be difficult to keep turning the servers on and off, but I forgot that if the blackouts are rolling, other parts of the Japanese internet might stop SE's servers from running properly. This is an excellent point to make.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Isn't half this games playerbase japanese? How many of these players lost these homes and even if the servers do come back that half of the playerbase wont be back due to circumstances out of there control?It's less then 1% of the populous that lost their homes. So that's not a factor on the player base. Currently it's simply a matter of government imposed power conservation.

[Lushipur]

I see another problem, i dont know if its a real problem or not but...
Isn't half this games playerbase japanese? How many of these players lost these homes and even if the servers do come back that half of the playerbase wont be back due to circumstances out of there control? Really i want the servers back up as much as anyone, but have a heart about the situation.

Offshoring there servers could be a solution, Isnt The SE branch located in San Diego like that Main branch outside of Japan?

one thing that surprised me most was the huge amount of japanese player still playing at the time of the disaster and till the server was shutdown. i suppose only the east coast players are unable to play while the others have no problems.

[Nvr]

Well, to get a little more back on topic about the server being up or not in a week. SE originally announced they were contemplating suspending service, but while they were not sure, they estimated that IF they were to suspend service, it would be suspended for at least a week. After that announcement, SE made another anouncement they they were going to temorarily suspend service.

Now, on playonline.com in the information section about the disrupt in service, it states in the body of text...


The services will be temporarily suspended for at least a week starting on Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT).

However, in the same page under downtim, it states...


[Date & Time]
A week starting from Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT)


I think this will be the cause of most complaints on Sunday because not everyone may have read or been aware of the "at least a week" detail. But here is hoping things are somehow stable enough to resume service by Sunday.

On a side note about what Lushipur was saying, server population durring Japan's primetime was on average about 800-900 on Caitsith pre-dissaster; however, after the dissaster, the population durring the same time was about 1400 on average. That is a 75% increase or so after the dissaster durring Japan's primetime.

[RAIST]

Yeah.. hopefully the GE turbines will get setup quickly and we can get some things back up and running next week. SE felt confident enough to announce a potential window for the version update...maybe that's a good sign. At least we know they are in conference trying to figure out what to do about the situation.

Raist

[Neika]

Ya i was shocked when i checked the server population on Caitsith just before they shut the servers down. I hadn't seen the numbers that high in quite a while. Wonder if they'll still be that high when the servers come back up...

[Valiarius]

This is historically the longest time a MMORPG has been down, SE doesn't even have any idea of the consequences the forced downtime will have on the interest of the playerbase, it's customers, and neither do we. We can go on and on about how it's reasonable to expect SE to keep FFXI and FFXIV down for a long period of time, but every day that goes by the players get weaned off the online games and start losing interest. In the end, this is a lose-lose situation that SE is in, as it's not their fault that disaster struck Japan but at the same time people who simply want to play their beloved games can't, even when they live far away in countries far from Japan which simply are minimally affected by the earthquake, if at all. The only way SE can keep most of it's customers (who are simply observers of the events in Japan and also aren't responsible for what happened over there and deserve to be able to play if they so want to) is to find a way to turn on those servers, or run the games from somewhere else, outside of Japan. Since this is a highly unlikely scenario, we can only wait and see what the ooutcome will be.

[Rambus]

I expect it to be more then a week I just hope my ls point list is all updated before the week end so we are ready just in case.

I really really rally really really really do not want to see anymore threads on " omg why can't i play ffxi move servers!" threads.

I am fine with this one and I am hoping this one stops others like that from reappearing.

[Volckian]

Don't expect this game to come back up on SUN, even though SE said "no less then a week" many people translate that to "only a week" It could be down two weeks, three, or even a month or two. In away I know this thread is pointless, but I am sure we will hear it, by SUN some will start whining because the servers are not back up "like SE said they would"

SE stated "At least a week". This is just a rough estimate of how long they could be down. It could range from 4days up to an indefinite amount of time. As far as we know, they may be working on moving their equipment to another country. (Just speculating.) Yet again, they could just be waiting until Japan fixes their power grid problems. But I do agree with Kailea_Nagisa and Dreamers, There will be a lot of annoying ranting about how bad SE is. In this situation I don't believe anyone has the right to leave negative feedback. Situations like this cannot be helped, you can complain all you want to. It's not like SE can say, "Well we apologize for the servers being off, I'll head over there right now and turn them back on for you."

Just keep in mind, this isn't a quick fix type problem. If their government orders them to shut down, then they have to shut down. If people want to complain to somebody, complain to the government of Japan for telling its people to help save energy for more important needs. Then if they don't comply with your demands, get on a boat and go over there and make them allow SE to waste valuable energy so you can play your game. ^^ And why not, while your at it you could also walk into the hospitals and tell people that a video game is worth more than their lives. (This is how I see people that would rather cry and complain about a stupid game, over human lives.)

If you cannot take a break from playing FFXI, you really need to take a good look in a mirror and find out what you're missing in your life. There is soo much more to life than video games.

~Enjoy
Volckian

[dugi]

first thing id like to offer is heart felt condolences to the people of japan for having to endure such a terrible disaster
i am an avid ffxi player with several japanese friends in the community so my views on how soon the servers should be up
draw mixed feelings due to not knowing if they are ok
i feel shutting them down was a wise move in the event of data loss years of efforts could be lost and irreplacable
and as it states in the info section it is temporary till the power is re-established
i read a post about how shutting the servers down would effect the game and peoples interest in returning to it
if they stayed off for a long period of time and im sure in thier decission they took this into account
and in the same meeting calculated the risks of a long term shutdown if the nuclear situation went critical
myself i will be back on ffxi when those servers reopen whether it takes 1 week or 3 months

my first post on ffxi forum so apology if stray off topic im a nub and will probly get chewed up
but gl japan and tepko on a fast recovery and a swift return to ffxi for us all

[SNK]

If the game stays down for at least a month it really won't matter to those of us who arn't fiending for their FFXI fix. Hell I just finished my Farsha and I've yet had a chance to really use it so yeah it sucks but I'm not being a douche about it like some of you people are.

Japan is going thru one of the worst disasters in their history since World War II and some of you people are crying about not being able to play your game. Something the fuck is seriously wrong with some of you kids...

[Runespider]

Hell I just finished my Farsha and I've yet had a chance to really use it so yeah it sucks but I'm not being a douche about it like some of you people are.

Most people won't complain, they will simply find another game if its down for too long. When the servers go back up and they are an all time low I think Square will care too, as will most of the moral wtf is wrong with you people.

[Juri_Licious]

Just gotta say, just cause people want to play the game right now doesn't make them a horrible person.

[Kindra]

I was thinking last night about why people are so upset about this. While I understand the want to play and the whole needed a back up plan standings that some have taken, I still don't understand why a game is so important. Games are not needed to sustain life. Food, Water, and shelter are. I understand that some use this as an escape form the stresses of real life. I have used XI in the past to escape the stresses of real life as well. And when I didn't have XI within reach to do this i read instead. They are many ways to escape.

I just have a hard time excepting that some people think a game is the most important thing to them. I would love to understand it but I just can't.

As far as SE's income is concerned I am sure they have thought of these things. It's not really up to us to worry about that. It is also not up to us to say what is in their their best interest. This is just my opinion though.

[Sureal]

there is a HUGE difference in voicing concern for the way the game is being run, or something in the game that effects the way you play, but complaining because the servers are not up because of a natural disaster that is threatening their way of life is NOT what these forums are for

making thread after thread about what SE can do about this situation is doing nothing but cluttering up the forums for other much more important topics, i mean seriously, how can we get the minimum lvl in abyssea raised to 90, or how can we make people not swap gears if we keep pushing all those important threads to page two

[Boldheart]

The game is good, and I know people miss playing it.... but relax people it will be up again.

[Rocman]

Version Update Delay
Rolling blackouts and restrictions on public transportation have been implemented across eastern Japan as part of the earthquake and tsunami disaster relief effort. Consequently, we have chosen to delay the upcoming major version update initially planned for mid-April.

While the new release date has been provisionally revised to May, we are unable to provide a detailed schedule at this point in time. The previously announced world merger will likewise be postponed.

We would like to express our apologies to our players, and will do our utmost to keep you abreast of the latest developments. Thank you for your continued understanding in this difficult time.

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Sincerely,

The FINAL FANTASY XI Team

[Miera]

I would imagine It would be more than a week, but eh, if next month is going to be free then I'll take it. ;o Maybe i can convince my friend to come back and stay for a month. ;o

[Chronofantasy]

I think the majority of average or above average IQ players understand that SE might take more than a week to get back up, but I think SE stated at least a week to give players hope that the game could potentially come back in a week depending on how the situation in Japan goes. SE can't predict the future of how bad or good the situation can get resolved, and "at least a week" doesn't sound as bad to the playerbase compared to them telling the players that it may take up to a month or two.

Come Sunday SE will probably post something on these forums telling us that it will take "at least another week" to get the situation under control and get the servers coming back up, but that also means it can be another week after that and another week after that and so forth.

On an almost irrelevant question/topic, I'm aware of SE's situation and I do hope the country can recover as best as possible soon and I wish them all the best, but with this situation does it in any way affect the release day of FF: Dissidia 012 to North America? I know the game is out in Japan already, but does the game already get shipped out to USA for translations and stuff or does all of that work done in Japan? I don't really know how it works or if SE has shutdown their whole company and stopped working on any game shippings and what not?

Please no trolling for this question telling me I don't care about the country's current situation by asking this because I am simply curious about this question so that way I can know if it will still come out on March 22nd or not to the store I pre-ordered it at and I can play that while FFXI is down. If it will realistically be delayed, then that's fine and I understand why with no complaints.

*Ignore this question: I looked it up myself and found all the answers I need here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/605802-dissidia-012-duodecim-final-fantasy/58409165 (Lol @ the person who spelt recent as "resent".)