Voidwatch: Crystal Petrifact

[Camate]

Some of you might be finding Crystal Petrifacts on your adventures. As stated in the version update notes, this item will be required for the final chapter of Voidwatch, but currently cannot be used.

This item will be the equivalent of Voiddust once the final chapter is implemented. By exchanging a certain amount of Cystal Petrifact, you will be able to obtain trigger items to challenge the monsters of the final chapter.

That said, while it may just be taking up space in your inventory right now, you might want to hold on to them for future use. Unlike Voiddust, Crystal Petrifact can only be obtained under certain circumstances and is not designed to be sellable.

Hope you are all looking forward to the final chapter of Voidwatch! :)

[Economizer]

This item will be the equivalent of Voiddust once the final chapter is implemented. By exchanging a certain amount of Cystal Petrifact, you will be able to obtain trigger items to challenge the monsters of the final chapter.

First off, typo: "Cystal Petrifact"

Second, I hope that this means that drop rates will be more favorable for the last chapter Voidwatch mobs so that the number needed is not excessive, or that crystal petrifacts drop more from lower tier voidwatch runs so that groups will be encouraged to do lower tier runs more (currently finding a group to do the three city tiers is incredibly hard, and the lowest two tiers of Jeuno are rarely done as well).

[Mikumaru]

First off, typo: "Cystal Petrifact"

Second, I hope that this means that drop rates will be more favorable for the last chapter Voidwatch mobs so that the number needed is not excessive, or that crystal petrifacts drop more from lower tier voidwatch runs so that groups will be encouraged to do lower tier runs more (currently finding a group to do the three city tiers is incredibly hard, and the lowest two tiers of Jeuno are rarely done as well).

what he said ^^

[Ophannus]

Chances are you'll need those 3 KI petrifacts to gain initial entrance into Provenance. They've made them droppable from VW but also purchasable if your luck is bad as well.

[Unleashhell]

But what will all the RMT do if they cant sell Crystal Petrifact from trading in Cruor from all those "Crurors FC Party All light cap 700k / 10 hr." parties they sell spots in?

[Cardinalgate]

ok so what about the Seductive Petrifact KI people are obtaining from VW?

[Zerich]

But what will all the RMT do if they cant sell Crystal Petrifact from trading in Cruor from all those "Crurors FC Party All light cap 700k / 10 hr." parties they sell spots in?

We're here again?
RMTs aren't the main source of FC-ers.
On leviathan, I know each of the leaders. None are RMT. However, one of them is a griever...one that SE won't do anything about.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Petrifacts need to be romoved from the top slot in the drop pool. Out of a dozen T3 zilart, there was only one metal drop to one person. They are interfering with the already somewhat bad drop rates of plates.

[Unleashhell]

We're here again?
RMTs aren't the main source of FC-ers.
On leviathan, I know each of the leaders. None are RMT. However, one of them is a griever...one that SE won't do anything about.

How you think all those Voiddust get on the AH? Ever notice how the same name appears on all servers shouting for FC? Tons of RMT activity and if you study the AH you will see it also.

[Arcon]

We're here again?
RMTs aren't the main source of FC-ers.
On leviathan, I know each of the leaders. None are RMT. However, one of them is a griever...one that SE won't do anything about.

So, you know the /anon Lv1 guy who shouts 24 hours a day for a FC pt for up to 10 hours for two different /anon cleavers with shit gear, who mysteriously changed his name from Yokomoke to Yokomeka to Yokomake, and you can confirm he's not RMT? How so? I would be very interested to know, because I'd bet money on the fact that he is.

[Karbuncle]

How you think all those Voiddust get on the AH? Ever notice how the same name appears on all servers shouting for FC? Tons of RMT activity and if you study the AH you will see it also.

Selling items doesn't make you an RMT... I sell a shitload of Voiddust, Because i do Campaign for it and its worth a lot of gil, and its easy to farm.

Fellcleave shouting doesn't make you an RMT Either, Most people you see selling Voiddust, Or Shouting for Fell Cleave spots are probably just saving up gil to get a Relic, or Buy any of that new armor. I won't be as naive to think none of them may be RMT'ing, But probably not that many.

Fellcleave and Voiddust are just two really popular ways to make Gil. :X

[MarkovChain]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Now any alliance of 18 can join the fight but next, only 18 with 18 petrifact will be able to join ? Ouch, it's like we are back to the worst period of einherjar.

[Unleashhell]

Selling items doesn't make you an RMT... I sell a shitload of Voiddust, Because i do Campaign for it and its worth a lot of gil, and its easy to farm.

Fellcleave shouting doesn't make you an RMT Either, Most people you see selling Voiddust, Or Shouting for Fell Cleave spots are probably just saving up gil to get a Relic, or Buy any of that new armor. I won't be as naive to think none of them may be RMT'ing, But probably not that many.

Fellcleave and Voiddust are just two really popular ways to make Gil. :X


I'm not saying its ONLY the RMT doing these things but its definitely the majority. They found a legit way to make gil. Maybe I will be more clear to say on Fenrir the majority of all these things are RMT activity while the very small minority are legit players using cruor for gil.

[Raksha]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Now any alliance of 18 can join the fight but next, only 18 with 18 petrifact will be able to join ? Ouch, it's like we are back to the worst period of einherjar.

Good thing you don't do voidwatch, right?

Also I figure only the popper will need the petrifacts.

[MarkovChain]

This would totally defeat the purpose of them doing an elite voidwatch tier as it seems that's what they are doing.

[Unleashhell]

So, you know the /anon Lv1 guy who shouts 24 hours a day for a FC pt for up to 10 hours for two different /anon cleavers with shit gear, who mysteriously changed his name from Yokomoke to Yokomeka to Yokomake, and you can confirm he's not RMT? How so? I would be very interested to know, because I'd bet money on the fact that he is.

I completely agree. Or the ally of 1 healer, 1 WAR, and 16 jobs with names zxcvbn, zxcvbnm, asdfg, asdfgh, asdfghj, asdfghjk etc etc. When you see 1 WAR pulling for 24 hours a day and and 16 other chars are across the area facing the wall with no gear and all anon its kinda easy to put 2 and 2 together. I have a 24 hour LS and people tell me, and before all the "are you on 24 hours a day and watch them?" people start commenting they NEVER leave the zone.

[Genoxd]

If you only get 700k in 10hrs you suck REALLY bad, you can easily get 150k/hr 200k/hr if you don't suck

[Zerich]

So, you know the /anon Lv1 guy who shouts 24 hours a day for a FC pt for up to 10 hours for two different /anon cleavers with shit gear, who mysteriously changed his name from Yokomoke to Yokomeka to Yokomake, and you can confirm he's not RMT? How so? I would be very interested to know, because I'd bet money on the fact that he is.

He's a mule for this douchebag on the server who comes around with a small party to ruin other FC's. They also d/c an hour into their FC. Yoko probably is one of them spamming a /yell or /sh macro in PJ.

I forget the WAR's name, but he's super gimp and rolls with a BLU and naked WHM; each of which are gimped as well.

[detlef]

Good thing you don't do voidwatch, right?

Also I figure only the popper will need the petrifacts.
In keeping with the voidwatch theme I'd wager that the popper and anybody wishing to obtain drops would need a petrifact and other participants would receive the usual xp/cruor.

[Unleashhell]

It means 700k for 10 hours of cleaving.

[Unleashhell]

If you only get 700k in 10hrs you suck REALLY bad, you can easily get 150k/hr 200k/hr if you don't suck

It means 700K for 10 hours of cleaving. If you need it more simplified it means YOU pay 700K for THEM to FC for 10 hours.

[Camate]

Just a small bit of information...

We will be increasing the stack size for Crystal Petrifact from 12 to 99 in the next version update. :)

[Tile]

Just a small bit of information...

We will be increasing the stack size for Crystal Petrifact from 12 to 99 in the next version update. :)

can they add Exp and Crour to Final VW too?

[Helel]

Maybe you guys should just make everything stack to 99. It seems to be the cool thing to do nowadays.

So why do empyrean upgrade items not stack to 99 then? Your reasoning was that you could turn them in one at a time, therefore they didn't need to stack above 12. Well, you can also turn in crystal petrifacts four at a time to kupofried so...?

[Tile]

So why do empyrean upgrade items not stack to 99 then?

Remember when they didn't stack at all?

[larrymc]

Just a small bit of information...

We will be increasing the stack size for Crystal Petrifact from 12 to 99 in the next version update. :)

While this is a welcome change - its unclear to me why they didn't stack to 99 to begin with. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the dev meeting where they initially decided "lets make them stack to 12". Some insight into their logic would be fascinating.

[SpankWustler]

I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the dev meeting where they initially decided "lets make them stack to 12". Some insight into their logic would be fascinating.

I can't speak for that specific meeting, but I imagine a lot of their business gatherings go a little bit like this:

http://i.imgur.com/wn2cN.jpg

[Transmit]

While you're at it, please make voiddust stack, even till 12 will do! But 99 would be awesome.

[Trisscar]

And while you're at it can you make it to where successfully procing weaknesses has an actual effect on the drop rate on desired items? I'm not saying that the drop rates should be 100% or anything like that but I have a friend on the game who's been fighting the mantis ever since it came out. He's lost count of how many time he's fought it (along with the will to live) but I imagine it's over 100,000 at this point and he's still hasn't gotten his desired item despite having maxed lights.

This needs addressing, Squaresuck.

[Demon6324236]

And while you're at it can you make it to where successfully procing weaknesses has an actual effect on the drop rate on desired items? I'm not saying that the drop rates should be 100% or anything like that but I have a friend on the game who's been fighting the mantis ever since it came out. He's lost count of how many time he's fought it (along with the will to live) but I imagine it's over 100,000 at this point and he's still hasn't gotten his desired item despite having maxed lights.

This needs addressing, Squaresuck.

15 minutes, times 100,000, 1.5million minutes, thats 25,000 hours, thats more than 1,000 days, if he has spent over 3 years IN COMBAT with Kaggen... not counting times for shouts and the fact he has not been out for 3 years... Then I am amazed with your friend! Now 1,000 times sounds alright, but still, thats saying in a total of about 10 full days of nothing but straight fighting back to back Kaggens, and still no drop, thats hard to believe in any case, unless he just doesnt drop what your friend is after, then you have some serious problems eh?

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

Sorry to necrobump this thread (as I am often wont to do…), but I have some information to pass on regarding Crystal Petrifacts.

We are currently making preparations for the implementation of a system that will allow Crystal Petrifacts to be exchanged for cruor.

While Crystal Petrifact is an item that was meant to help players when their stock of Kupofried’s corundum was in short supply, in the event that you do not need this, we felt it would be beneficial to exchange Crystal Petrifacts for cruor, which in turn could be used for Atmacites, Periapts, or other applications. However, since the original purpose of Crystal Petrifacts was not to generate cruor, the exchange rate will not be very high.

Also, there were a lot of requests to make it possible to exchange these items for Voidstones, but doing this would create the cycle of doing Voidwatch in order to save up points to do Voidwatch, so we would like to hold off on this type of exchange.

[Nawesemo]

Greetings everyone!

Sorry to necrobump this thread (as I am often wont to do…), but I have some information to pass on regarding Crystal Petrifacts.

We are currently making preparations for the implementation of a system that will allow Crystal Petrifacts to be exchanged for cruor.

While Crystal Petrifact is an item that was meant to help players when their stock of Kupofried’s corundum was in short supply, in the event that you do not need this, we felt it would be beneficial to exchange Crystal Petrifacts for cruor, which in turn could be used for Atmacites, Periapts, or other applications. However, since the original purpose of Crystal Petrifacts was not to generate cruor, the exchange rate will not be very high.

Also, there were a lot of requests to make it possible to exchange these items for Voidstones, but doing this would create the cycle of doing Voidwatch in order to save up points to do Voidwatch, so we would like to hold off on this type of exchange.

storing em with shami and making them exchangeable isn't an option?

[Byrth]

Also, there were a lot of requests to make it possible to exchange these items for Voidstones, but doing this would create the cycle of doing Voidwatch in order to save up points to do Voidwatch, so we would like to hold off on this type of exchange.

Petrifact -> Voidstone is just a more direct path between the two points than what you're proposing:

Petrifact -> Cruor -> Gil -> Voiddust -> Voidstone

[saevel]

Petrifact -> Voidstone is just a more direct path between the two points than what you're proposing:

Petrifact -> Cruor -> Gil -> Voiddust -> Voidstone

Their ignoring the fact people sell their stones.

Their real intent is to limit the void stone supply by as much as they can without being too blatant about it. As it stands people gotta spend AN / ISP / CP to get the stones they sell. AN / CP (book burn) seem to be the easiest to make now.

[Vivivivi]

I'll take it.

[Zubis]

Well now I feel a bit silly for throwing 200 of them at Kupofried last week.

[Fupafighter]

Devs, you got it all wrong. Stop saying "we". This is not about how you want the game to be run, this is about how the player base wants the game to be run.

[SharMarali]

I support the idea of making it possible to use Crystal Petrifacts for a secondary purpose, for those players who are unable to access Provenance or choose not to do so. However, given the various purposes cruor serves other than simply for upgrading atmacites, I'm not sure that I agree with this solution. I would humbly suggest allowing a certain number of petrifacts to be exchanged for phase displacers instead of cruor.

[Infidi]

I'm gonna throw a wild guess out and say it'll be 1k cour per petrifact. Probably be more like 500 though lol.

[Ophannus]

It'll probably be 10-50 cruor to be honest, like destroying chests in abyssea.

[Phogg]

Phase displacer conversion is a great idea. Even though I'm done with clears, it would be nice for people who lack prov watcher access but have lots of petrifacts to use those in aiding their ascent to Prov Watcher access, and make it easier for their friends to assist them.

[Goliathreborn]

But for the love of god, remove these from the top slot of the victory chest. I do not want to see another petrifact where I want to see a Heka's body.

[Demon6324236]

They need to be 2k cruor each, otherwise they should be entirely removed.

[Arbole]

Crystal Petrifact:Heavy Metal Plate, 1:1, fixed.

[Metaking]

heck if it was even a 2:1 or a 3:1 it would be fine and maybe something like 10:1 for the rift stuff

[Siiri]

How about just removing them entirely from the treasure pool and allowing them to be bought with cruor. Nothing worse than going to Pil, etc and seeing 4 petrifacts in your chest.

[Dreamin]

Greetings everyone!

Sorry to necrobump this thread (as I am often wont to do…), but I have some information to pass on regarding Crystal Petrifacts.

We are currently making preparations for the implementation of a system that will allow Crystal Petrifacts to be exchanged for cruor.

While Crystal Petrifact is an item that was meant to help players when their stock of Kupofried’s corundum was in short supply, in the event that you do not need this, we felt it would be beneficial to exchange Crystal Petrifacts for cruor, which in turn could be used for Atmacites, Periapts, or other applications. However, since the original purpose of Crystal Petrifacts was not to generate cruor, the exchange rate will not be very high.

Also, there were a lot of requests to make it possible to exchange these items for Voidstones, but doing this would create the cycle of doing Voidwatch in order to save up points to do Voidwatch, so we would like to hold off on this type of exchange.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE for the sanity of your players, please removed these Petrifacts from the 1st slot out of the chest.

[Waldrich]

I'm trying to understand how Provenance Watcher is so much horribly designed... I honestly given up on it due to the 3 cacturae farm, I have won PW more than 30 times... even if you can get the KI's from other VWNM it's useless.

If at least the KI's were stackable... we could do Provenance Watcher more times...

[Camate]

Greetings!

The exchange rate will be around 100 cruor or so for each Crystal Petrifact traded. The plan is make the method of exchanging simple by using Voidwatch Officers, Planar Rifts, and such, and we will also make it possible to exchange multiple stacks at one time.

[Dreamin]

Greetings!

The exchange rate will be around 100 cruor or so for each Crystal Petrifact traded. The plan is make the method of exchanging simple by using Voidwatch Officers, Planar Rifts, and such, and we will also make it possible to exchange multiple stacks at one time.

Can we just REMOVE these from the top slot PLEASE.

Serious, if they have a value of about 100 cruors, then how about just let people BUY them for 100cruor or 1k cruors from the NPC (VW Officers, Planar Rifts, and such) for those that needs them for PW.

[detlef]

I'm not sure I can muster any excitement for 100 cruor per petrifact. I'd like to second what Siiri said to remove them entirely.

[Phafi]

Can we just REMOVE these from the top slot PLEASE.

Serious, if they have a value of about 100 cruors, then how about just let people BUY them for 100cruor or 1k cruors from the NPC (VW Officers, Planar Rifts, and such) for those that needs them for PW.

how do you do prov watcher so much that you need petrifacts to get in?

[Washburn]

Camate, that makes about as much sense as coupons having a value of 1/100 of a cent.

[Demon6324236]

how do you do prov watcher so much that you need petrifacts to get in?

Honestly if anyone does, they are doing Prov way to much, I would have to assume a LS spamming it to no end or something like that maybe? Personally I have over 190 Kupo, with about 60 petrifacts on me, so overall I would have to do about 75 runs at Prov in the next month, to run out, and I do Prov maybe... 1~2 times a week at best, maybe less, with only 1 shout every day or 2 days.

[Ophannus]

When the Japanese version of Camate's post was posted on the JP forums it made a bit more sense:


Since Kupofried's Corundum is also stocked over time and it would be difficult or impossible to isolate which corundum were turned in and which were generated by time, we are not planning to allow you to exchange Corundum into Cruor. Since you've already converted the petrifacts to corundum, they can only be used to challenge the Provenance battlefields (sorry!).



There is already the function of allowing the crystal petrifacts to be exchanged for Kupofried's Corundum if you have not acquired your desired items from Provenance. However, since the stones accumulate over time, many of the crystal petrifacts are going to waste, so we're just allowing the cruor exchange to reduce this wastefulness in a small way.


Although we have not yet determined a specific exchange rate, we are thinking that about 100 cruor per crystal petrifact would be reasonable. Please think about the cruor exchange rate obtained when destroying caskets in Abyssea.
Although this may seem unsatisfactory or unattractive to those of you who were expecting item exchanges for crystal petrifacts, we hope you consider that this was never intended to be an effect of the item, and is not the original premise behind the item.

[Deathbeckons]

for those of us who actually cared about voidwatch and got it done rather than sitting around doing nothing, these crystal petrifacts are just trash clogging up our boxes. the various logs and ores and npc food is considerably more valuable than ~260g/petrifact. there really needs to be some way to opt out from obtaining crystal petrifacts. i dont really care if its going to take a bunch of effort to code. were paying to play the game. us paying pays the coders salaries. they can find a way to change this.

[Demon6324236]

Rather than removing the pointless Crystal Petrifact system, you are giving us cruor, at 1st this didn't seem so bad, but at 100 cruor per petrifact you are looking at about 259.5 gil for each, rather than the 2~5k from ore, ingots, and logs, which would drop in their place instead. Not that I like logs/ores, but at least it was better than this, and allowed us to put more materials into circulation, and prevent more gil coming into circulation via blinker runs, which we know is exactly what this cruor will end up going to.

[Waldrich]

Square Enix making useless stuffs neglecting intelligence's player once again, we're not stupids, we know what's good and what's alms.

Remove them from the top slot PLEASE. unless you guy really think that bad about your own players... your costumers...

[Karbuncle]

There's no logical reason or proof to assume a Crystal Petrifact TAKES the slot from a Rare drop. The most likely scenario is the Top Slot 'rolls' for Rare drops, If it gets none, Rolls for Scrolls, if it gets none, Rolls for Synth Mats, Which Petrifacts fall under.

I know SE makes dumb choices, But it would be horrendously stupid to have it roll for the common drops before the rare drops, And i can't bring myself to believe they are that asinine when it comes down to it. We have to give them a little more credit. As far as the Cruor exchange rate goes.

Shut the f*ck up or i'll cut you!

Its Better than them having literally 0 usefulness, like they do to most people. SE Saw that these items were being tossed/etc. While 100 Cruor isn't going to make them sought after, If you happen to get one, At least its not a completely wasted spot. They could have, like many things, Kept them useless. I understand how you can get upset when they go.

"We looked into these Adjustments, But the Development team said it couldn't be done because Rainbow Monkey Banana Milkshakes Zebras"

But this makes sense. Most still wont bother to pick them up, But I've collected them since the announcement and have about 83 of them, Thats about 8,300 more Cruor than i had before, While nothing to write home about, It gets me a cell or two, When before, It would get me nothing.

If you want to complain, theres plenty of other legitimate reasons to do so here.

[Byrth]

Looooook guys, the system probably works like this:

There's a chance the first slot will load one of the monster-specific items that depends on Red light levels. Lets say it's that chance is Red Light/1000. So if you have 550 Red light, there's a 55% chance it will load one of the Red items.
http://www.ffxidb.com/voidwatch/178 <-- remember to add in Heavy Metal Pouches and some scrolls

If it is loading from among the Red items, there's a second distribution within that. Lets say the odds for Qilin are:
20% : Scrolls
40% : Houyi's Gorget
20% : Heavy Metal Pouch
15% : Fajin Boots
4% : Lux Pugio
0.5% :Coruscanti

If it isn't loading from the Red Distribution, then it is loading from what I'll term the "Crap Item Distribution," approximately:
25% : Crystal Petrifact
75% : Logs, lower level spells, and other crap

So having Crystal Petrifacts occasionally show up in the first slot means you just didn't get a Log. It doesn't mean you didn't get a Coruscanti. If you want to be really disheartened by drop rates, poke around the Voidwatch section of FFXIDB. 8800 Qilins and 4 Coruscantis.

[Karbuncle]

Coruscanti does have a depressing drop rate. I'd be sadder if it wasn't plum terrible in most situations =x

for(THF)?

Edit; Go back a page and read Byrth's post. or gtfo <3

[Kincard]

lol, 100 cruor?

I mean I guess since you can trade it in right at the rift you might as well, but still, wow.

[Demon6324236]

The problem isn't so much the amount of cruor, its that they wont just admit they are a worthless implementation and remove them all together, at least if it were 1k+ cruor it would be somewhat acceptable as a countermeasure because it would be just about as well as removing them all together, but in either case its just another failed twist on what the player base asked for.

[Raksha]

Yeah i'm still not gonna bother taking them out of the chest.

[Ganukay]

The problem isn't so much the amount of cruor, its that they wont just admit they are a worthless implementation and remove them all together, at least if it were 1k+ cruor it would be somewhat acceptable as a countermeasure because it would be just about as well as removing them all together, but in either case its just another failed twist on what the player base asked for.

It may seem like a worthless implementation, but it had its purpose when Provenance first came out. I had to farm crystal petrifacts several times for prov fights, it made me spam old VW I already had gear in, which I believe was their intention. They're also still useful to people just getting provenance access. makes no sense to remove them now and implement a new system to obtain corundums.

[Phogg]

Greetings!

The exchange rate will be around 100 cruor or so for each Crystal Petrifact traded. The plan is make the method of exchanging simple by using Voidwatch Officers, Planar Rifts, and such, and we will also make it possible to exchange multiple stacks at one time.

Is this a joke? Did we timewarp to April? Why even bother? smh

[Byrth]

Greetings!

The exchange rate will be around 100 cruor or so for each Crystal Petrifact traded. The plan is make the method of exchanging simple by using Voidwatch Officers, Planar Rifts, and such, and we will also make it possible to exchange multiple stacks at one time.

Now that you've nerfed the only Cruor use that made additional cruor sources potentially dangerous, why not reassess this amount (perhaps up to 2k?) Returning players are going to need cruor for Atmacites, Abyssea KIs, etc. and would doubtlessly enjoy the boost.

[Raksha]

Now that you've nerfed the only Cruor use that made additional cruor sources potentially dangerous, why not reassess this amount (perhaps up to 2k?) Returning players are going to need cruor for Atmacites, Abyssea KIs, etc. and would doubtlessly enjoy the boost.

Seconded.

10 char

[Phogg]

Something just dawned on me that I think really highlights how completely inept the devs are, and/or how utterly out of touch with their own game they have become. Let's totally ignore the absolutely brilliant suggestions to convert these into phase displacers, thus helping literally everyone seeking to clear VW paths and go with 100 cruor instead. Done.

Hey SE, you might want to start re-hiring some actual in house full time game testers so even the most basic thoughts would occur to you, such as the following.....

"Greetings, adventurer! Congratulations, you have defeated the mighty Qilin 12 times! Now, I understand you have not yet been rewarded with the dagger/(insert body/nm/insert whatever you are actually after in VW that you never get) but never fear, you can feel rewarded with 5 of these rare and valuable 'Crystal Petrifacts'! Once you have met certain unknown conditions, you can convert these FIVE crystal petrifacts into FIVE HUNDRED cruor! Awesome, right? With that ridiculous amount of cruor, you will be able to purchace ONE WHOLE FORBIDDEN KEY!"

In the realm of brilliant ideas, this one ranks up there with "If we're hungry, lets just eat our own poop!"

Edit: Hmm, this sounds like a youtube video in the making. I shall call it "Two Devs, One cup"

[Aldersyde]

The logic of allowing petrifacts to be turned into cruor to be used for atmacite upgrading is just frigging laughable. What good is it that a whole stack of them is worth 9900 cruor when the cost of upgrading gets to be in the hundreds of thousands? They would have to be at least 2k to start to make a dent in some of the pricier atmacite.

Just take these abominations out of vw chests altogether. No one is saving them for PW bullshit, mostly because the whole PW battlefield is an unrewarding cesspool.

Stop wasting development time on nonsense like this. There are tonnes, and tonnes, and TONNES of other fixes you guys could be focusing on.

[Concerned4FFxi]

just another stupid se move, give this one lone programmer in the basement his week vaction he asked for in 09 and get him some sleep and off the coffee IV drip, please.

It's like you added 5 nin shadows and then forgot to update the shadow counter icon. It's like not looking before merging into traffic, SE....oh, you do that alot?

Please think before you implement shit. Oh wait, im talking to the poor middleman who has to probly disreguard this and all other rants if they hold criticism towards SE, even if the weight in the words has value.

[HimuraKenshyn]

/facepalm 100 cuor really dudes this is nothing but FAIL.....

[Thore]

/facepalm 100 cuor really dudes this is nothing but FAIL.....

Especially since cruors become mostly useless now.

[SpankWustler]

Now that you've nerfed the only Cruor use that made additional cruor sources potentially dangerous, why not reassess this amount (perhaps up to 2k?) Returning players are going to need cruor for Atmacites, Abyssea KIs, etc. and would doubtlessly enjoy the boost.

This.

Now that the option to convert cruor to gil is much less appealing, the only group really assisted by extra cruor are players who are behind on atmacites or other key items and want to catch up. Anything that helps them catch up a little faster would be welcome.

[Dreamin]

This.

Now that the option to convert cruor to gil is much less appealing, the only group really assisted by extra cruor are players who are behind on atmacites or other key items and want to catch up. Anything that helps them catch up a little faster would be welcome.

@100 curor per petrificate and even the lowest atmacites that would take about 250k cruors to cap to 15. that's 250k/100 or about 2.5k petrificates to cap just 1 atmacite. You'll be much better off just cruor farm in abyssea. Otherwise, if this truly is SE's means of what the petrificates are for, then they need to serious wake up and play the damn game themselves to see that there is absolutely NO value on 100 curor/petrificate at all.

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

After looking over all of the feedback in regards to the planned adjustments for Crystal Petrifacts, the development team has decided to hold off on them at this time.

While there are a variety of thoughts for new ways of using Kupofried’s Medallion/Crystal Petrifacts that tie back to the original application in Provenance for the future, this is something that is closely related to plans for adjustments to Voidwatch as a whole, so we will be thinking about the uses keeping the long term in mind.

If we were to quickly add methods to exchange this item right now, it would become a waste when we implement new elements and content in the future, so we would like to spend some time looking into all the ideas we have received and not rush into anything.

With that said, it might be cumbersome to carry all those Crystal Petrifacts, but we would like you hang on to them a bit longer while we flesh out the plan. Of course, feel free to exchange them for Kupofried’s Medallion though!

[Secondplanet]

not sure if this was said before but why not allow us to trade these petrifacts for the weapon/armor cells. Make it that like 50 petrifacts can get you 1 armor cell and 99 can get you 1 weapon cell of you choice?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

not sure if this was said before but why not allow us to trade these petrifacts for the weapon/armor cells. Make it that like 50 petrifacts can get you 1 armor cell and 99 can get you 1 weapon cell of you choice?I'm not against the idea of petrifacts being much much rarer as a result. Also this is a terrible idea for anythig other then the finale drops as these have nothing to do with the rest of VW.

[Helel]

Turn them in for the KIs for provenance watcher, or allow the corundums to be used to pay for the KIs. Part of the reason why people have so many corundums is it can take a long time to assemble a party, then do three BCs, then one final one where everything good has a 5% drop rate... It's a huge waste of time.

[bigdave]

you should just take them out of the top drop slot i am sick of getting 100's of them when i need 3000 heavy metals

[Luvbunny]

you should just take them out of the top drop slot i am sick of getting 100's of them when i need 3000 heavy metals

This is a much better idea, plus they should make heavy metal drops in A LOT more VW monsters. A lot of people don't need these but others do, they could help out the one who does need and give the one who does not need a good decent income for gil.

[Lotmorning]

This is a much better idea, plus they should make heavy metal drops in A LOT more VW monsters. A lot of people don't need these but others do, they could help out the one who does need and give the one who does not need a good decent income for gil.

Have to agree to this too. Adding more plates and pouches to VW drops would help the supply and demand of these things.

[Dragonlord]

you should just take them out of the top drop slot i am sick of getting 100's of them when i need 3000 heavy metals

I'm pretty sure the only things in the top drop slot are empyrean upgrade items and armors. Petrifacts can only be at the top of the list when nothing from the top slot drops.

[Waldrich]

Turn them in for the KIs for provenance watcher, or allow the corundums to be used to pay for the KIs. Part of the reason why people have so many corundums is it can take a long time to assemble a party, then do three BCs, then one final one where everything good has a 5% drop rate... It's a huge waste of time.

That's why I quit forever doing Prov Watcher.