Moogles, Mog Houses and "Storage" II

[Tamoa]

Instead of necro-bumping an ooooold thread and risking it being overlooked, I decided to make a new thread regarding this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/12551-Moogles-Mog-houses-and-Storage



Evening! I have a small request. Would it be possible to access storage from any Mog House location?

We already know Moogles can "Warp" Back to your mog house to garden, Would it be far fetched to assume they could Warp back and grab some stuff from Storage to put in their moogle bag to bring to you!

So thats my request, Short and to the point. Can it please be possible to access your Storage from any Mog House?

Thank you in Advance!


The official reply was:


You will be glad to know that we are planning to make it possible to access your storage from all mog houses, however, it will be sometime after the upcoming version update.


Dear Camate, can you find out exactly how long is "sometime after"? It's been over 7 months now... And I know I'm not alone in wanting this really bad.

Update on the subject please?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Here here! More info!

[Nala]

liked and posting for show of support... think we need likes and post counts before they even care -.-

[Camate]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

[Flionheart]

Are you planning on adding any additional storage? Like another sack or satchel?

[saevel]

I just want more then 80 items in my bag. With the past years worth of gear progressions and new WS's I'm running tight on space for RDM / BLU / PLD. I'm sure there are others who feel this same way.

[Tamoa]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

Thank you Camate, good to know it's not been forgotten about, although I do feel this change is waaayyyy overdue already. :(

[RAIST]

I just want more then 80 items in my bag. With the past years worth of gear progressions and new WS's I'm running tight on space for RDM / BLU / PLD. I'm sure there are others who feel this same way.

They have already stated that the system is restricted to how many items a container can contain, due to memory constraints when moving items between containers (80 + 80, Plus the temp items container pretty much taps out the memory address space alotted for this part of the interface).

Until the system gets a MAJOR overhaul, we are pretty much stuck with 80. With a littel creative tweaking and restriction of the temp items container, they may be able to push it another 5 or 10, but then that will open another can of worms because it will cause a choking down elsewhere to free the memory space.

[Luvbunny]

So basically this storage thing will be implemented close to a year after they said they will do it? A year!! over something as trivial as this?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

So basically this storage thing will be implemented close to a year after they said they will do it? A year!! over something as trivial as this?

and they wonder why people have little faith in them.

[cidbahamut]

Get your shit together Square-Enix. A year turnaround time is not acceptable in any way, shape or form.

[wildsprite]

they have other priorities, while this feature will be a welcomed edition they have a order to the list of things to be done, having an attitude about things as low priority as this is rather childish

[Jile]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

Like others mentioned, I'd really like more storage in each area as well. 80 used to be alright but I have many jobs that I would prefer having better situational macro's built around. TP/WS/Def+/certain JA's/etc/etc and 80 just doesn't cut it anymore. How about 200 storage on character and each storage location? Please!? Major overhaul or not, it needs to be done (make it available on PC only if its another of those PS2 limitation excuses?)...

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Like others mentioned, I'd really like more storage in each area as well. 80 used to be alright but I have many jobs that I would prefer having better situational macro's built around. TP/WS/Def+/certain JA's/etc/etc and 80 just doesn't cut it anymore. How about 200 storage on character and each storage location? Please!? Major overhaul or not, it needs to be done (make it available on PC only if its another of those PS2 limitation excuses?)...

To be honest I don't think 80 inventory spaces was ever OK. 80 spaces in other storage solutions fine, but when you clump together Equipment (even the ones you're wearing) and drops/items into just 80 spaces it's way too restrictive.

Had they have done 80 equipment spaces, then additional storage for items it'd have been OK, but not how it is now.

[Seiowan]

I've played games with a LOT less storage than FFXI offers. Personally, I think it's rather generous...

The only real reason why FFXI suffers more from storage issues than these other games is its sheer scope. Being able to level up every job in the game will undoubtedly lead to huge issues with gear for all of them piling up. That they've added so many storable armour sets and items shows they're working hard to fix the majority of these issues for us.

Let's at least keep things a bit civil for now.

[Jile]

I can understand your point; however, please recognize that with literally every slot being merely a macro piece slot and needing several gear-sets on hand for each given job's activity it's very easy to run out of inventory space.

If, on the other hand, SE had designed FFXI with the intent of each job having static gear full timed 80 storage per slot would only then be generous.

As regard my civility regarding it, it's limited by PS2 incompatibilities, I'm sorry for any inconvenience. lol >.>

[Tamoa]

they have other priorities, while this feature will be a welcomed edition they have a order to the list of things to be done, having an attitude about things as low priority as this is rather childish

Although it might be a low priority thing, it's something that's wanted by a lot of players - in addition to that, well I might not know anything about game coding and whatever it's called, but I cannot imagine that this is something that's difficult and requiring a lot of work to implement.

[cidbahamut]

Although it might be a low priority thing, it's something that's wanted by a lot of players - in addition to that, well I might not know anything about game coding and whatever it's called, but I cannot imagine that this is something that's difficult and requiring a lot of work to implement.
Not only that, but SE seems to have an ongoing problem with turnaround time. They'll announce that they're going to make a very simple change to something, but then they take nearly a year to act on it. It's not limited to just this issue, but can be seen across many different issues.

If the dev team has "other priorities" as wildsprite suggests, then their number one priority needs to be getting more people on board so they can offer the playerbase a more timely response to issues. Saying "we'll fix it", and then not having accomplished anything nearly a year later is not acceptable.

[Thelona]

Isn't ps2's restrictions on viewing more than 160 items at a time? Just drop the storage numbers to 60, jump active inventory to 100, add a couple more storage areas to offset the loss.

[RAIST]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

In all fairness, Camate did post 04/04/2012 that they were looking to do this in the SUMMER. It is still Spring. Summer starts June 20th on our calendar.

While I do agree it is long overdue, we were notified of a general time frame to expect a change, and we still have roughly 7 weeks until that window first opens.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

In all fairness, Camate did post 04/04/2012 that they were looking to do this in the SUMMER. It is still Spring. Summer starts June 20th on our calendar.

While I do agree it is long overdue, we were notified of a general time frame to expect a change, and we still have roughly 7 weeks until that window first opens.

Also originally said:



(08-16-2011)
You will be glad to know that we are planning to make it possible to access your storage from all mog houses, however, it will be sometime after the upcoming version update.

Now I know sometime is a while, but a whole year it stretching it a little.

[RAIST]

Yes, but in that announcement in August (which, by the way was NOT a year ago, but 8 months), they didn't give any real hint as to a time frame to expect any changes. This more recent update on the situation did: look for something to come in the Summer time frame.

THIS time were given a rough time frame for when to expect it. That time has not come yet.

It's kinda like the payment changes. Everyone raised h3ll for weeks when it screwed people out of their access until SE made an official announcement of when to expect the change. Things cooled off for a while--until they started missing the deadlines. Then the uproar started again--and it was justified because they gave us a specific window to expect the changes and they missed it by a mile. Until they fail to deliver as promised (ie, in the Summer)--all the clamouring for a change is kinda pointless....they've already promised a change will be coming, likely in the Summer

[Tamoa]

"Sometime after the upcoming version update" doesn't come across as "months and months after the upcoming version update and the next few updates after that too". I guess at the time Camate didn't have any idea of when it might be implemented, but it the way it's worded it really did sound like we wouldn't have to wait 10+ months. At least to me.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Yes, but in that announcement in August (which, by the way was NOT a year ago, but 8 months), they didn't give any real hint as to a time frame to expect any changes. This more recent update on the situation did: look for something to come in the Summer time frame.

THIS time were given a rough time frame for when to expect it. That time has not come yet.

It's kinda like the payment changes. Everyone raised h3ll for weeks when it screwed people out of their access until SE made an official announcement of when to expect the change. Things cooled off for a while--until they started missing the deadlines. Then the uproar started again--and it was justified because they gave us a specific window to expect the changes and they missed it by a mile. Until they fail to deliver as promised (ie, in the Summer)--all the clamouring for a change is kinda pointless....they've already promised a change will be coming, likely in the Summer

Really!?

Christ almighty.

[RAIST]

"Sometime after the upcoming version update" doesn't come across as "months and months after the upcoming version update and the next few updates after that too". I guess at the time Camate didn't have any idea of when it might be implemented, but it the way it's worded it really did sound like we wouldn't have to wait 10+ months. At least to me.

and how long have you been playing FFXI? not like ridiculous delays on changes is anything new for SE. Just look at how long it took them to undo their snafu on the payment changes, regardless of how much revenue was flying out the door because of it.

[Tamoa]

and how long have you been playing FFXI? not like ridiculous delays on changes is anything new for SE. Just look at how long it took them to undo their snafu on the payment changes, regardless of how much revenue was flying out the door because of it.


How long I've been playing has nothing to do with it, keep the snarky comments to yourself please?

It was badly worded by Camate, giving the impression it would be done fairly soon. I decided to bring the subject back up because personally I'm hurting bad for MH space, and having to go to home nation for anything I might need that's in MH storage is a royal pain in the backside when I'm in a rush.

"Undoing their snafu on the payment changes" can't really be compared to this, I dare say fixing that required a lot more work than giving players access to MH storage from anywhere will require.

[RAIST]

The point was they have a habit of hinting at changes that take forever to implement. Things are often stated as in "future updates" that seem to never show up.

And no, reimplementing the payment changes was not as big a deal as I think you think it was. The framework was already in place--more than half the hard work was already done (rerference the JP site was live with the framework from day 1). I used to work for a company that did this very thing, and once the details of the framework were in place, and paperwork processed for the CC processor, it was done inside of a week. Granted, there may have been delays shopping for a new provider and setting up the contracts....but certainly not something that should have taken months to take care of. Issues with what they were doing dated back roughly a YEAR prior to implementation (reference FFXIV crapstorm over C&B in 2010), and the whole issue became a hot topic again in the scope of FFXI roughly 3 months prior to having it thrust down our throats.

SE had ample time (roughly a year or more to prepare) to take care of this, they just dragged their feet as usual.

And that's the point. They are KNOWN to drag their feet on nearly everything. Even serious bugfixes can sometimes take a month or more to tweak, while other things considered "game changing" get tweaked in a couple weeks. They are perfectly capable of doing things faster....just for whatever reason, they do not. If they don't give a specific time frame for an implementation, then it should not be expected prior to them announcing such a time frame for implementation--it's still an open issue whose fate is still "to be determined" until they actually commit to completion. To expect anything better than past activity was in short, naivety (sorry if that sounds "snarky", but I meant that in the literal sense of "lacking in experience or understanding").

[cidbahamut]

And that's the point. They are KNOWN to drag their feet on nearly everything.

That does not make it any more acceptable.

[RAIST]

That does not make it any more acceptable.

Regardless, it is what it is. The most recent update stated they are "aiming for summer to do this."

Thus, the earliest we should expect to see anything more from SE on this is in the summer months. Until then, "mum's the word".

[Daniel_Hatcher]

and how long have you been playing FFXI? not like ridiculous delays on changes is anything new for SE. Just look at how long it took them to undo their snafu on the payment changes, regardless of how much revenue was flying out the door because of it.

So because they're used to doing it, we should just accept it rather than complain.

[Tamoa]

And that's the point. They are KNOWN to drag their feet on nearly everything.

That does not make it any more acceptable.




So because they're used to doing it, we should just accept it rather than complain.


Both of the above quotes = my point exactly.

And I'm sorry Raist, but you telling me how things were in a company you used to work for, doesn't convince me in any way. I don't know you, you could be lying through your teeth and making things up as you go along. I never said I think fixing the payment option issues was a major task. I said I'm fairly certain that required more work than giving the playerbase access to their MH storage from any area would do. If a SE rep tells me different then fine, I'll happily admit I was wrong.

Naive? No I don't think so. We were told they'd do this. After 7 months of complete silence on the matter, I wanted to know if they'd forgotten all about it - which they haven't. Or maybe they did forget, and this thread was a reminder? Who knows?

[RAIST]

So because they're used to doing it, we should just accept it rather than complain.

no, the point is they didn't give any hint of a timeline in August. In April, they did....and that time frame is SUMMER.

[Godofgods]

while it would be easier, i always thought the storage restriction made sence.

[Arukia]

no, the point is they didn't give any hint of a timeline in August. In April, they did....and that time frame is SUMMER.
I think you are missing the point Raist. People are not saying SE is going against their word or that their promised timeline is a total lie. They're complaining that what feels like a simple feature request is taking much too long and with vague arrival date it paints a picture that SE has forgotten about it, hence the OP.

Whether they've been doing this all the time or that technically they haven't breached any promised, because of vague wording, have nothing to do with the impression of carelessness felt by players.

Anyways glad this is coming (soon?) as I am starting to need to access my MS a lot now :3

[saevel]

I think you are missing the point Raist. People are not saying SE is going against their word or that their promised timeline is a total lie. They're complaining that what feels like a simple feature request is taking much too long and with vague arrival date it paints a picture that SE has forgotten about it, hence the OP.

Whether they've been doing this all the time or that technically they haven't breached any promised, because of vague wording, have nothing to do with the impression of carelessness felt by players.

Anyways glad this is coming (soon?) as I am starting to need to access my MS a lot now :3

Their development staff is limited, most have been moved to FFXIV. If anyone doesn't believe me, just check the update notes on FFXIV and compared them with FFXI. It's kinda obvious where all our subscription money is going.

[RAIST]

I think you are missing the point Raist. People are not saying SE is going against their word or that their promised timeline is a total lie. They're complaining that what feels like a simple feature request is taking much too long and with vague arrival date it paints a picture that SE has forgotten about it, hence the OP.

Whether they've been doing this all the time or that technically they haven't breached any promised, because of vague wording, have nothing to do with the impression of carelessness felt by players.

Anyways glad this is coming (soon?) as I am starting to need to access my MS a lot now :3

And you are missing my point. 3 weeks after announcing a specific timeframe for implementation, people are clamoring to have it added. They have already committed to the change, and have finally narrowed down a time to look for that change--and people are acting like there has been no commitment to any changes.

Now, if it was getting to the end of September and still no change had been made, then people started raising a fuss that would be a different story. That would be a repeat of the billing snafus. But as it is, SE commited to addressing the issue, and told us it was coming in the summer (as in, not before June 20th).

And this simple feature request can be much more involved at this stage in the game than some may realize. Resource management has become quite a challenge for them due to legacy issues. They have a finite memory space to run the game in because of it, and a change like this can create a lot of issues that need to be addressed if it is to be uniform across all platforms. If it were being implemented for just the PC, that would be different--but we are dealing with consoles that don't have a seemingly boundless amount of resident memory to work with.

[cidbahamut]

Turnaround time on issues is unacceptably slow.

This is not a difficult concept to comprehend.

I don't understand why anyone would go to such efforts to defend poor service rather than requesting the service be improved.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

no, the point is they didn't give any hint of a timeline in August. In April, they did....and that time frame is SUMMER.

And as I would do with any service a pay, I'll complain that they are taking the p*** it's a joke when F2P games are updated quicker than one making quite a bit of money still.


while it would be easier, i always thought the storage restriction made sence.

Not really! Your Moogle can go back to the mog house to water the plants, collect gear from a Locker in Aht Urhgan etc, but can't collect an item from storage in your mog house.

[RAIST]

Turnaround time on issues is unacceptably slow.

This is not a difficult concept to comprehend.

I don't understand why anyone would go to such efforts to defend poor service rather than requesting the service be improved.

This actually is an improvement for their turnaround time. There are far more pressing issues that have been in a "looking into" state since 2006 through 2009 that have yet to be addressed. You guys wanted some answers on this issue and you got it...be thankful you even got a response, much less a commitment to do something about it by a certain time frame.

[Tamoa]

This actually is an improvement for their turnaround time. There are far more pressing issues that have been in a "looking into" state since 2006 through 2009 that have yet to be addressed. You guys wanted some answers on this issue and you got it...be thankful you even got a response, much less a commitment to do something about it by a certain time frame.


Back then there was no official FFXI forum where we could communicate directly with SE representatives and express complaints, concerns and wishes that could get a direct answer.

[RAIST]

Back then there was no official FFXI forum where we could communicate directly with SE representatives and express complaints, concerns and wishes that could get a direct answer.

True, but there were partner sites, and the support portal has always been available. Now, whether people were using those lines of communication effectively or not.....that's a whole other story. I know I certainly reported a lot of stuff...multiple times, always with the same cookie-cutter auto-reply system, and the run-around through online chat, but at least we tried.

[Tamoa]

True, but there were partner sites, and the support portal has always been available. Now, whether people were using those lines of communication effectively or not.....that's a whole other story. I know I certainly reported a lot of stuff...multiple times, always with the same cookie-cutter auto-reply system, and the run-around through online chat, but at least we tried.

One way communication is barely communication and gets old real fast.

Anyway, I'm with Cidbahamut here and wonder why you're so hellbent on defending SE, saying "it's been this way forever so it's ok and you all got no reason to complain" - which is essentially what you are saying. Nothing will change if we don't try to change it. The topic of this thread is something which is quite important to me, and by the looks of it it's also wanted and wished for by a lot of other players. Ever since this forum was made there's been posts made by people screaming for more MH space and inventory space. Giving us access to MH storage from all cities/nomad moogles would - at least to me - give me 80 more slots which would be a lot more useful than what they are now.

[cidbahamut]

This actually is an improvement for their turnaround time. There are far more pressing issues that have been in a "looking into" state since 2006 through 2009 that have yet to be addressed. You guys wanted some answers on this issue and you got it...be thankful you even got a response, much less a commitment to do something about it by a certain time frame.

Be thankful I'm being given poor service because I used to get no service?

No thank you, I would prefer to receive good service.

[Sergee]

So, when are we getting this? It was announced months ago, pretty ridiculous that we still haven't seen this implemented yet.

Allowing us to access our storage from anywhere... is the coding really that difficult to change? :mad:


Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

(It's July, summer officially started back in June, let's get on the ball Square Enix).

[wildsprite]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.

so does this mean summer this year or summer some year way in the future? o_0

yeah I'm skeptical, the devs made several promises on the developers blog that SE came back later and said they didn't make, the only example I can remember was a list of 6 new Avatars(of which we got none of) for summoner that got a whole lot of people excited, but that is another topic

[Tamoa]

Don't worry everyone! We have not forgotten about this!

While I do not have any concrete details as of yet, we are aiming for summer to do this.


Bump.

I really do hope this will be implemented in the version update on Monday - since summer is pretty much over and we still can't access Mog House storage from anywhere but home nation.

[zataz]

i just wanna say thanks for all your efforts square.
when u get it done u will get it done. its easy to complain about the 80 limit id rather be thankful cause u could of just left it at 30, so thanks!

[Tamoa]

i just wanna say thanks for all your efforts square.
when u get it done u will get it done. its easy to complain about the 80 limit id rather be thankful cause u could of just left it at 30, so thanks!


But they didn't. They gave us up to 80 slots. And they keep adding a massive amount of non-storable situational gear.

[Phogg]

At least they got around to fixing dyna currency icons though! <eye roll>

[Demon6324236]

It is annoying they keep pushing back these simple updates. I don't see how this could take them more than a few minutes to do really.

[Tamoa]

Well, guess it wasn't meant to be this time either. Been 13 months since we were told they were going to do it, and it's definitely not summer anymore.

[Demon6324236]

I don't understand why they can do all of the bigger updates but the smaller ones never see the light of day. I mean they just released Meeble Burrows, they have the Expansion coming next year, they have Neo-Salvage they are working on, but we cant access our Storage from Jeuno yet? :confused: I mean, I like these bigger updates, they are nice, but I would love to get some of the smaller and more simple updates like this, the storage update would save me alot of room because I would actually use it often. Not only that but we still have things like Cait Sith which have yet to be released and were announced long ago too, why are they not here yet?

SE needs to get better at announcing things, they have a real problem with it. Alot of the time SE announces something it gets attention for a bit then they sweep it under a rug and forget about it, and sadly they don't just do it on this game, when was the last time anyone heard anything about Final Fantasy Versus 13?

[Llana_Virren]

I don't understand why they can do all of the bigger updates but the smaller ones never see the light of day.

The tragedy of being a programmer (and by extension, a developer) is that "simple, small fixes" aren't as simple in reality as they are in the minds of players.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

The tragedy of being a programmer (and by extension, a developer) is that "simple, small fixes" aren't as simple in reality as they are in the minds of players.

Only if you're just beginning programming....

I say that as someone able to program in many different languages.




People make programming out to be too hard, it really is not, it's like learning another language. The first is a pain, but after that the rest is a breeze.

[Nightfox]

Instead of necro-bumping an ooooold thread and risking it being overlooked, I decided to make a new thread regarding this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/12551-Moogles-Mog-houses-and-Storage





The official reply was:




Dear Camate, can you find out exactly how long is "sometime after"? It's been over 7 months now... And I know I'm not alone in wanting this really bad.

Update on the subject please?

I agree, more inventory space and storage options are quite overdue. /like

[saevel]

Only if you're just beginning programming....

I say that as someone able to program in many different languages.




People make programming out to be too hard, it really is not, it's like learning another language. The first is a pain, but after that the rest is a breeze.

Depends on your language. Most coders there days are taught in HLL where things like memory constraints and instruction latencies aren't even thought about. These guys are console developers, specifically the PS2 which requires some low level programming skills. Nothing is easy when your talking ASM and it's ilk, especially when your limited to 32MB of total memory.

[Okipuit]

Good evening,

While the development stage for accessing storage items from other nations other than your home town might not be the most ambitious project on our list, it really depends on other tasks and milestones as well. We will be reviewing the timing for implementation but it's difficult to narrow down an exact date for completion. Rest assured however that it is on our minds and planned out. We're sorry for the delay and appreciate your understanding.

[Demon6324236]

Well please bump this up on the list. Due to the shortage many people currently face with inventory this should open it up much more for alot of people, pushing things like this back which are likely simple, does nothing more than disappoint the players, especially when the current updates are lackluster, disappointing, or are never actually given. I cant wait to see the next roadmap, which will tell us about updates to look forward to but wont even be on the test server 3 months after the date given.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Good evening,

While the development stage for accessing storage items from other nations other than your home town might not be the most ambitious project on our list, it really depends on other tasks and milestones as well. We will be reviewing the timing for implementation but it's difficult to narrow down an exact date for completion. Rest assured however that it is on our minds and planned out. We're sorry for the delay and appreciate your understanding.Wt you're failing to understand is that this realy should be a much higher priority then you're putting on it.

[Kaisha]

Wt you're failing to understand is that this realy should be a much higher priority then you're putting on it.
Can't wait for them to 'reserve' it as an SoA bonus.

[Vagrua]

Is it really that difficult to allow access to storage in every mog house? This is something that would actually benefit the game as a whole. Not to mention to raise the hopes of the playerbase. Do you even wonder why people are leaving topics on these boards cancelling their accounts? It's because they actually did enjoy this game until recently. I'm still trying my best to stick to it also, but as the updates become more and more lackluster, I start to wonder if I'm with the right team. Feedback is left about content and nothing is done about it. To expect small changes like this months to years from now is a bit eccentric. It's already been a year since this issue was brought up from the opening post. It's like Tsukino said, should be WAY more prioritized than other projects.

You would think with all the money this game gets from subscribers that small changes like this would be simple to implement. It may not profit as much as other MMOs out there, but we still have 16 servers worth of people active.

RANT off. :mad:

[Babekeke]

I really don't see the issue with going to your home nation to access storage anyway. I just use storage to tuck away stuff that I'm not likely to need again in a hurry anyway, things like keys required for missions, limbus chips etc.

It takes no more than 5 mins to reach your home town and get back to Jeuno anyway:

1. Run out of Jeuno to the closest FoV Book.
2. Repatriation.
3. Access Mog House at Home Nation.
4. OP to Qufim Island.
5. Enter Lower Delkfutt's Tower.
6. Use GoV book just inside.

Steps 4-6 I generally find are quicker than swapping to BLM sub and having to re-enter mog house in jeuno to swap back. Certainly takes away the chance to forget to swap back. Or the need to have BLM levelled to at least 17 lol.

[Vagrua]

I really don't see the issue with going to your home nation to access storage anyway. I just use storage to tuck away stuff that I'm not likely to need again in a hurry anyway, things like keys required for missions, limbus chips etc.

It takes no more than 5 mins to reach your home town and get back to Jeuno anyway:

1. Run out of Jeuno to the closest FoV Book.
2. Repatriation.
3. Access Mog House at Home Nation.
4. OP to Qufim Island.
5. Enter Lower Delkfutt's Tower.
6. Use GoV book just inside.

Steps 4-6 I generally find are quicker than swapping to BLM sub and having to re-enter mog house in jeuno to swap back. Certainly takes away the chance to forget to swap back. Or the need to have BLM levelled to at least 17 lol.

It's more of them saying that they would give us storage access by this summer and now them saying that there's no agenda for it at all due to higher priorities.

[Zirael]

I really don't see the issue with going to your home nation to access storage anyway. I just use storage to tuck away stuff that I'm not likely to need again in a hurry anyway, things like keys required for missions, limbus chips etc.

It takes no more than 5 mins to reach your home town and get back to Jeuno anyway:

1. Run out of Jeuno to the closest FoV Book.
2. Repatriation.
3. Access Mog House at Home Nation.
4. OP to Qufim Island.
5. Enter Lower Delkfutt's Tower.
6. Use GoV book just inside.

Steps 4-6 I generally find are quicker than swapping to BLM sub and having to re-enter mog house in jeuno to swap back. Certainly takes away the chance to forget to swap back. Or the need to have BLM levelled to at least 17 lol.
Or the developers could just flip a "zero" in their code into "one"... :)
The most common reason for anyone accessing their storage is changing jobs, so most of the time you'd have to add changing a job, putting old equipment in Mog House, taking new equipment/consumables, visiting your AF2/AF3 moogle AND making a trip to your home nation? There could be a better use for furniture storage than a garbage bin.

[Demon6324236]

Or the developers could just flip a "zero" in their code into "one"... :)
The most common reason for anyone accessing their storage is changing jobs, so most of the time you'd have to add changing a job, putting old equipment in Mog House, taking new equipment/consumables, visiting your AF2/AF3 moogle AND making a trip to your home nation? There could be a better use for furniture storage than a garbage bin.

This is how I see it. I mean, as for now my inventory is just used for random things I might need one day, or might not, and in either case could likely get it again in no time. On the other hand, I would love to put gear for jobs such as COR, which I almost never play, in my Storage so that I have more room for other things, I simply don't have 80 items that are that trivial, and don't feel like going to my home country for a few pieces of gear for a single job I wont be playing long anyways.

[Mirage]

I use storage for items for unfinished empy gear/weapons//etc upgrade items. I wouldn't mind having access to it everywhere, but at the same time it's not a big deal for me. It would be mostly because SE said they would do it and then didn't :p.

[BigPapaBlueJay]

Good evening,

While the development stage for accessing storage items from other nations other than your home town might not be the most ambitious project on our list, it really depends on other tasks and milestones as well. We will be reviewing the timing for implementation but it's difficult to narrow down an exact date for completion. Rest assured however that it is on our minds and planned out. We're sorry for the delay and appreciate your understanding.

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[Sp1cyryan]

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^Oh grow up.

The crying, moaning, whining, and complaining is ridiculous.

You people do know that we have an expansion in the works, minor tweaks all over the board, content outside the the expansion being worked on and tweaked, and a never ending list of bugs that pop up in all of the aforementioned that the limited staff over there has to take care of right? Who cares about this? It is not hard at all to go use the book or even T1 VW warp right outside your nation and access storage right? This should honestly be one of the last things on their list to even address. Quit bellyaching already it is just dumb. As if they never mentioned something then took months let alone years to get to it.

Perhaps they shouldn't try to keep you constantly amused and excited by mentioning every little thing that they want to do. Considering the Dev team does not live to work on this game every moment of their time. Who really wants them to put time into this causing something such as the expansion to salvage to be delayed? Any time they take away to do this delays the development of anything else of actual value that they are working on. This is a miniscule change and even less important than not getting stuck on the afk people in PJ everywhere.

[Demon6324236]

I don't understand why we should be waiting for updates already announced to be out before now, and still no word on it, not on the Test Server, and no where in sight. Cait Sith & this are both updates we were supposed to have before now, its not mentioned to be going on the Test Server, nor is it actually on the Test Server, so they are far behind. I like them making a new expansion, but in honesty I would like some extra things on this game to keep me here, and make it better for now, so when the Expansion comes around I still like the game. There is seriously no reason we should be waiting months or a year for an update as trivial as this one seems to be!

[Tamoa]

^Oh grow up.

The crying, moaning, whining, and complaining is ridiculous.

You people do know that we have an expansion in the works, minor tweaks all over the board, content outside the the expansion being worked on and tweaked, and a never ending list of bugs that pop up in all of the aforementioned that the limited staff over there has to take care of right? Who cares about this? It is not hard at all to go use the book or even T1 VW warp right outside your nation and access storage right? This should honestly be one of the last things on their list to even address. Quit bellyaching already it is just dumb. As if they never mentioned something then took months let alone years to get to it.

Perhaps they shouldn't try to keep you constantly amused and excited by mentioning every little thing that they want to do. Considering the Dev team does not live to work on this game every moment of their time. Who really wants them to put time into this causing something such as the expansion to salvage to be delayed? Any time they take away to do this delays the development of anything else of actual value that they are working on. This is a miniscule change and even less important than not getting stuck on the afk people in PJ everywhere.


You realize the first time they said they would give us MH storage access was over one year ago already? And to a lot of us, MH and inventory space is a real issue, and having to go back to your home nation is simply inconvenient. Easier than it used to be, sure - but still inconvenient.

It would have been better if they had said they would look into it, but never actually said they'd do it. I somehow don't think this is a monumental task that will take weeks to fix.

[Nala]

not that im against this at all but my storage is already near full as is, only thing i'd gain from it being all accessible is convenience.

[Sp1cyryan]

You realize the first time they said they would give us MH storage access was over one year ago already? And to a lot of us, MH and inventory space is a real issue, and having to go back to your home nation is simply inconvenient. Easier than it used to be, sure - but still inconvenient.

It would have been better if they had said they would look into it, but never actually said they'd do it. I somehow don't think this is a monumental task that will take weeks to fix.

It is like taking a break from writing a thesis to go look at the butterflies outside for an hour.
It doesn't take but a few minutes to get to the storage as it is.

SE took years to even add alexander and odin (and let's not forget about how long the forgotten atomos will be). They typically take that long formost things. This should not even remotely be a surprise to everyone who starts getting upset over something pretty silly in the first place.

Imagine if /displayhead took a long time. Oh the riots we would be having over that!

[Jedicrew]

uncap this all ready whose with me say I lol

[Tamoa]

It is like taking a break from writing a thesis to go look at the butterflies outside for an hour.
It doesn't take but a few minutes to get to the storage as it is.

SE took years to even add alexander and odin (and let's not forget about how long the forgotten atomos will be). They typically take that long formost things. This should not even remotely be a surprise to everyone who starts getting upset over something pretty silly in the first place.

Imagine if /displayhead took a long time. Oh the riots we would be having over that!


Personally I couldn't care less about /displayhead, or Atomos and Cait Sith for that matter. This however, is important to me, and the fact that we have to wait so long just baffles me.

And I'm not upset, I'm annoyed. And a tad disappointed.

[Sp1cyryan]

Personally I couldn't care less about /displayhead, or Atomos and Cait Sith for that matter. This however, is important to me, and the fact that we have to wait so long just baffles me.

And I'm not upset, I'm annoyed. And a tad disappointed.

Baffled? You have watched SE operate for a longer period of time than most people.

There really should not be any surprise. They will get to it when they get to it. Even if it only takes a couple of hours I would still rather they work on the countless other additions to the game.

The reason it is important to you is because you can not gear all 20 jobs with the space SE gives you and this does not fix that because you still just have to use repatriation from the book or VW warp right near the gate for storage you already have.

Didn't they mentioned they can still add another mog sack like storage area? I don't remember the exact wording.

[SpankWustler]

I am so bitterly pessimistic that I'm just glad to hear that increased storage accessibility is still in the plans.

At the same time, the time apparently needed to make a simple change like this makes me almost feel bad for the current Development Team. I can only imagine that FFXI's code requires Satanic arts most foul and the leavings of a baby Godzilla to actually add something new, if a change of this caliber is something that must be scheduled. The amount of disemboweled cats and burned Godzilla poop that pile up as the expansion is developed must be staggering...and smelly.

[Tamoa]

Baffled? You have watched SE operate for a longer period of time than most people.

There really should not be any surprise. They will get to it when they get to it. Even if it only takes a couple of hours I would still rather they work on the countless other additions to the game.

The reason it is important to you is because you can not gear all 20 jobs with the space SE gives you and this does not fix that because you still just have to use repatriation from the book or VW warp right near the gate for storage you already have.

Didn't they mentioned they can still add another mog sack like storage area? I don't remember the exact wording.


I have no plans to gear all 20 jobs, as I don't play them all. In fact, out of those 20 jobs only 6 are fully geared, and another 3 are adequately geared.

With all the little tweaks and changes SE has made to the game lately for the sake of convenience (for example testimonies that can be used 3 times, warping to BC areas, the weighted doors in QSC, the first limit break quest items, Garlaige doors, etc etc) I don't see why giving us access to MH storage from anywhere couldn't have been implemented by now.

[Zagen]

I don't see why giving us access to MH storage from anywhere couldn't have been implemented by now.
I'm going with they haven't figured out how to replicate the bug that caused storage to be accessible from anywhere after they "fixed" it so long ago.

[Amyishem]

Well I would hope that they made this improvement soon also. Very tedious going back to your nation just to access your storage.

[wildsprite]

oh haven't you gals and guys figured it out yet? our moogles keep changing the code back, that is why they haven't given it to us yet, they may look cute but they are really evil stingy space hogs

[Demon6324236]

I'm going with they haven't figured out how to replicate the bug that caused storage to be accessible from anywhere after they "fixed" it so long ago.

I think the games code occasionally gets a will of its own, and tries to better the game, then SE comes back and has to screw it up... Sometimes, bugs aren't really bad, they are unintentional improvements, like that one we had with Einherjar a bit back, but then it was "fixed" and now, its worse.

[Camate]

Greetings everyone!

Turning linkshells into key items is definitely an interesting idea to save some inventory space. Unfortunately, when it comes to key items, it is only possible for to save flag information indicating whether or not you are in possession of the item, and they cannot store more complicated information.

Linkshells have a bunch of information tied to them, such as the LS name, pearl color, member list, and whether it is equipped or not, so it is not possible to change them into key items due to the complexity of the data.

[Zubis]

Camate's 666th post >.>

It's a good explanation that goes into some detail, which makes sense now as to why it can't be done. Cheers!

[Glamdring]

Greetings everyone!

Turning linkshells into key items is definitely an interesting idea to save some inventory space. Unfortunately, when it comes to key items, it is only possible for to save flag information indicating whether or not you are in possession of the item, and they cannot store more complicated information.

Linkshells have a bunch of information tied to them, such as the LS name, pearl color, member list, and whether it is equipped or not, so it is not possible to change them into key items due to the complexity of the data.

understand, and even agree with the explanation. we can all see the level of interactivity with the shell, so it's perfectly logical. So, alternative idea, a storage avenue that is exclusive to shells/sack/pearls, can keep it limited to say 10 or so, and it will only hold your link-whatevers, call it something like a link pouch.

[Byrth]

understand, and even agree with the explanation. we can all see the level of interactivity with the shell, so it's perfectly logical. So, alternative idea, a storage avenue that is exclusive to shells/sack/pearls, can keep it limited to say 10 or so, and it will only hold your link-whatevers, call it something like a link pouch.

Though I understand the theoretical motivation for these requests (encourage more social player behavior by removing the inventory penalty that comes with extra linkshells), you have to realize that it would probably be just as much work for them to add another 80-inventory general-purpose sack as add the 10-item Linkshell-only sack you're proposing.

[Catmato]

Unfortunately, when it comes to key items, it is only possible for to save flag information indicating whether or not you are in possession of the item, and they cannot store more complicated information.

Linkshells have a bunch of information tied to them, such as the LS name, pearl color, member list, and whether it is equipped or not, so it is not possible to change them into key items due to the complexity of the data.

Could it work in a way similar to attachments where you use it and it's stored away elsewhere?

[Notackan]

understand, and even agree with the explanation. we can all see the level of interactivity with the shell, so it's perfectly logical. So, alternative idea, a storage avenue that is exclusive to shells/sack/pearls, can keep it limited to say 10 or so, and it will only hold your link-whatevers, call it something like a link pouch.

I think this is a pretty good idea. It could be a normal item called Link pouch (I agree with the name :P). You can have 12 shells in it and it can be Rare/ex. I dunno what the max amount of shells that can be had now is but I think 12 is plenty for anybody. You can only drop shell from Linkshell menu and you can't drop the Link pouch(or you can I dunno). This makes it where your linkshells only takes 1 spot. You can buy the pouch from a goblin for I dunno 20k or something. That don't sound too hard. Only thing that would be a little hard is trading pearls to new ls members. I was thinking you can go to linkshell menu and when you make a new shell it'll ask you if you want to keep it out of the pouch. Also you can pull shells out of the pouch from the linkshell menu. If you go over 12 shells it will take spots like normal. 1 pouch per character. If needed once new shell is received it won't be in pouch unless going to the ls menu and picking an option "Place in pouch".