Remove experience points

[rog]

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

[Topdogg]

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. would put this game at a perfect balance and open vana'diel back up.

[bishop]

i think instead of shoes we should all wear kleenex boxes

[Mirage]

I see no problems in doing that

[Greatguardian]

Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. Would relegate 16/20 jobs back to untouchable status because the game was so much better that way.

What was that about perfect game balance?

[Miera]

i think instead of shoes we should all wear kleenex boxesI was just going to say lets all just drop our gear and have a good ol naked XP party brokeback style.

[Ezikiel]

i think instead of shoes we should all wear kleenex boxes

i too watch the office

[Ezikiel]

Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. would put this game at a perfect balance and open vana'diel back up.

i say boo to you sir

[Unaisis]

all leg armors needs to be changed to Subligars~

[Alkalinehoe]

all leg armors needs to be changed to Wicca Subligar~
FTFY



Stupid minimum character count...

[Ezikiel]

all leg armors needs to be changed to Subligars~

so gross. im constantly fussing at friend in livkshell yo STOP WEARING subligars in my party

[Sleven]

LOL this is a funny thread. Most of the posts are entirely off topic. But in stupid topic like this one it's very entertaining to read.

Tip: When you have a suggestion, say it out loud to yourself first and decided if it is still relevant. That way we don't waste our time.

[Alhanelem]

Let's remove monsters from the game. They're too easy to kill.


Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. would put this game at a perfect balance and open vana'diel back up. Vana'diel is plenty opend up. They doubled EXP in otuside areas and with good parties it's perfectly viable.

[Rambus]

It would be nice to have one abyssea problem thread and ONLY one thread about why "SE needs to move FFXI servers so i can play ffxi nonstop" and similar such things ( the news update is fine on its own though)

tired of seening threads on the subject of those 2

darn, i need to type 10 things even when i quote my self

[Simian]

Yeah yeah, that's it. Get rid of exp, get rid of monsters, all start at 99, all wear the same gear and we can change the name of the game to FFXI-2: Clone Ballista

[Greatguardian]

Yeah yeah, that's it. Get rid of exp, get rid of monsters, all start at 99, all wear the same gear and we can change the name of the game to FFXI-2: Clone Ballista

Well, all other things equal it would definitely put the emphasis on the skill and social aspects of the game, wouldn't it?

[Ezikiel]

i prefer waffles or pancakes

[rog]

Yeah yeah, that's it. Get rid of exp, get rid of monsters, all start at 99, all wear the same gear and we can change the name of the game to FFXI-2: Clone BallistaNo, we can keep monsters, silly.

[Miera]

Why can't we just Kill Naja Salaheem and gain a level everytime we kill her. Leechers will get their XP and everyone hates that Mithra anyway. Then everyone will be happy.

[Mirage]

I think you should get a level up per enemy you kill. That would be totally balanced.

[Kilue]

i prefer waffles or pancakes

I like my waffles with peanuts and soap in 'em.

[rog]

I think you should get a level up per enemy you kill. That would be totally balanced.
I could get behind that.

[Kjara]

<.< find me an RPG without EXP then we can talk about this again

[rog]

<.< find me an RPG without EXP then we can talk about this again
Final fantasy II

[Kjara]

far as I remember FFII has characters leveling up too. that is still a way of gaining points, even if the name changes.

[rog]

far as I remember FFII has characters leveling up too. that is still a way of gaining points, even if the name changes.
No, there were no experience points, or levels. Skills for weapons and magic needed to be leveled up, but that's it. Skilling up weapons/magic had no effect on your stats, which had a random chance of increasing depending on what happened in a fight.

[Miera]

Why can't we be like some of those NMs that level up from casting magic on themselves? God they are so lucky.

[Krystal]

okay..this is officially an epic LOL thread...:P

[Ezikiel]

i disagree leave xp in the game take away all animation and make it just a text based game

[Henihhi]

While SE is at it they should take all the mentally challenged players out of the game and give them their own server name "Window Lickers"

[Vivik]

i disagree leave xp in the game take away all animation and make it just a text based game

Why would you want to make it an FFXIV clone?

[Vivik]

While SE is at it they should take all the mentally challenged players out of the game and give them their own server name "Window Lickers"

Or their own forum!

[rog]

Why would you want to make it an FFXIV clone?Because ff14 is such a great game.

[Ezikiel]

Why would you want to make it an FFXIV clone?

Not sure you got what i was saying there buddy i meant take away all characters all monsters and you just reading a screen like the old D&D...... also genius i was kidding i dont take this thread seriously seems you do. just a recap i was just playing was not serious at all

[Vivik]

Not sure you got what i was saying there buddy i meant take away all characters all monsters and you just reading a screen like the old D&D...... also genius i was kidding i dont take this thread seriously seems you do. just a recap i was just playing was not serious at all

Oh I get it now. So you want them to make it more like old D&D. Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying.

[Alistaire]

i prefer waffles or pancakes

There's nothin like a good muffin.

[Ezikiel]

There's nothin like a good muffin.

*homer voice* MMMMMMMMmmmmmm Muffins arrrrghh

[Juri_Licious]

They should remove this thread from the forums.
To insure balance.

[Ezikiel]

They should remove this thread from the forums.
To insure balance.

LOL i like this one

[Vivik]

They should remove this thread from the forums.
To insure balance.

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

[Ilax]

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

That true, sad they deleted my thread about magic button lol They probably gonna end to delete this one too :P

Go go easy mode, after no more experience they just need to add: On creation you get all Gear as well.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Stupid minimum character count...I too have felt your pain.

[JagerForrester]

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

This is the craziest thing I've heard you say. Just...crazy...You're crazy!

[Ezikiel]

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.

To me xpin was always boring nothing exciting doing the same move over and over to get 40k xp in 4 hours at least with abyssea i get to blow past that boringness and get to do endgame or solo stuff with full benefits of a job

[wish12oz]

I think when you sign up to this forum, you should have to take an IQ test, then the score you recieved should be displayed next to your name every time you post!

[Wade]

There are some benefits to exping. You can obtain crystals, which can be sold or used for crafting. You can also get items that can be used in crafting. You can get items that you can use to finish quests to increase fame.

If a new person starts and takes 2 jobs (Main/Sub) up to 30 in a week, and then leeches them to 90 in a few days, he/she has no Gil, their mog house is at 50 and their gobbie bag is at 30. I hear a lot of complaining about storage space. This must be killer for those collecting seals and such.

In my opinion, exping helps gain fame, gil and experience.

[Dodge]

I think when you sign up to this forum, you should have to take an IQ test, then the score you recieved should be displayed next to your name every time you post!

This, but the test only needs one question:

Are gear swapping and haste two of the most effective ways to improve playing FFXI?

If answered correctly, "Congratulations, you can contribute to this forum"
If answered incorrectly, "I'm sorry, better stick to WoW"

[Vivik]

There are some benefits to exping. You can obtain crystals, which can be sold

Sorry, you lost me at xping to sell crystals...

[Wade]

Sorry, you lost me at xping to sell crystals...

This is one of the ways new people make Gil, unless you would just rather them buy gil from an RMT.

[Vivik]

This is one of the ways new people make Gil, unless you would just rather them buy gil from an RMT.

Or leech to 90 and cruor farm because that's what people that leech from level 30 do. The point is not that leeching at level 1 is great. The point is there is little to no difference than starting at level 30

To stay on topic though, removing xp and starting at level 99 would be the best idea seeing how leveling to 90 is just so ridiculously easy now. Get rid of the xp and just cruor farm your hearts out for gear.

[Wade]

Sorry I should have clarified, my post was in response to Ezikiel's post above.

[Miera]

SE should sticky this thread so that everyone who comes here will know how the players feel about leveling and the snorefest otherwise known as xp parties.What the hell is an "XP party"? shinanigans!

[CrystalWeapon]

Kinda reminds me of that quote from the matrix.

Agent Smith> "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering."

I think the same would happen here. Players would start to die if there were no pain and no suffering in the mmo (o-o)

[Ilax]

Kinda reminds me of that quote from the matrix.

Agent Smith> "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world, where none suffered, where everyone would be happy? It was a disaster. No one would accept the program, entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world, but I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering."

I think the same would happen here. Players would start to die if there were no pain and no suffering in the mmo (o-o)

Ying/Yang....

SE could give you everything easy, you would just not appreciate the game at all, or they can put the bar freaking high then you have a reason to be happy.

Same as your house, comfort, security and so on that you never notice everyday, go live in Afganistan, Africa or country like that, and you would appreciate more what you have...

Ying/Yang....

[Lexin]

I would much rather have a JP Button. Would solve everything imo

[Ilax]

I would much rather have a JP Button. Would solve everything imo

Then what you would do? I have all my job 90, all my job was 75 pre-abyssea, You think the lol-abyssea experience was a challenge for me..... SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it.... Wait i am wrong again, is an accomplishment to not have been kicked out of all PT you joined, but hey outside that part?

[Lexin]

Then what you would do? I have all my job 90, all my job was 75 pre-abyssea, You think the lol-abyssea experience was a challenge for me..... SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it.... Wait i am wrong again, is an accomplishment to not have been kicked out of all PT you joined, but hey outside that part?

Was sarcasm...

[Ilax]

Was sarcasm...

So was my post about that magic button where you get all JOB 90, get all best gear of the game, win 10,000$ on your credit card every time you press on the button, weird SE deleted the thread after 10 min...

All i hope is SE don't listen 95% of what people say in many thread, or i gonna end to have as much fun play a pac-man game then i do playing FFXI.

[Greatguardian]

So was my post about that magic button where you get all JOB 90, get all best gear of the game, win 10,000$ on your credit card every time you press on the button, weird SE deleted the thread after 10 min...

All i hope is SE don't listen 95% of what people say in many thread, or i gonna end to have as much fun play a pac-man game then i do playing FFXI.

Pac man is pretty challenging.

[Ilax]

Pac man is pretty challenging.

it is yes, more then leech in abyssea lmao, oh well i need afk cry in a corner now :(

[Malamasala]

SE could have make a special button that bring everyone to 90 imo that would be the same, because don't tell me leeching in a PT 20 job is any accomplishment in it

A much better idea is to just prompt you with a once a life time choice.
Easy, Normal, Hard mode.

Easy is 250% exp bonus, 100% drop rate, Zone teleport.
Normal is 100% exp, 10% drop rate, limited teleport NPCs.
Hard is 10% exp, 1% drop rate, no transportation options.

That way everyone can play just how they want.

PS. Easy gets a free relic/mythic/empyrean. Hard gets blocked from the Ninja job and can't receive the effect of haste.

[CrystalWeapon]

Ying/Yang....

SE could give you everything easy, you would just not appreciate the game at all, or they can put the bar freaking high then you have a reason to be happy.

Same as your house, comfort, security and so on that you never notice everyday, go live in Afganistan, Africa or country like that, and you would appreciate more what you have...

Ying/Yang....

You seem to have alot of anger issues in most of your posts Ilax, relax a little. *puts a chocobo on your head*

The quote was a joke and a play on how most players in XI are against every aspect of the game going to easy mode, they rather suffer a little.

[Ilax]

A much better idea is to just prompt you with a once a life time choice.

That a nice way to call me no life for playing FFXI? To answer it, it was my personal choice to do all these job, i agree i have more free time then general player, but to say i am a 'no-life' just because of it that was an free attack.

[Ilax]

You seem to have alot of anger issues in most of your posts Ilax, relax a little. *puts a chocobo on your head*

My only anger is about how people keep QQ for everything without thinking over they nose, and i am sorry but it not helping my anger when i see DEV give more content to casual player (that is btw nice) and then see these same people come back and ask to DEV to make it even more easy.


The quote was a joke and a play on how most players in XI are against every aspect of the game going to easy mode, they rather suffer a little.

So mine was, at some point i hardly make the difference between some sarcasm and some that take it serious, seem like your comment just excite more lazy people and just frustrate hardcore player. Of course don't expect do such of comment and have no one reply. You find that funny to troll? So do i...

[Vivik]

My only anger is about how people keep QQ for everything without thinking over they nose, and i am sorry but it not helping my anger when i see DEV give more content to casual player (that is btw nice) and then see these same people come back and ask to DEV to make it even more easy.






So mine was, at some point i hardly make the difference between some sarcasm and some that take it serious, seem like your comment just excite more lazy people and just frustrate hardcore player. Of course don't expect do such of comment and have no one reply. You find that funny to troll? So do i...

I think you're just one of those "I did everything the hard way so everyone else should" people, am I wrong?

[SNK]

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.


....lol you so funny rog....

[Bongs]

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc.. (Sigh..). If people have this attitude they should just shut the servers down for good. I'm only saying this cause I've been playing for 3 months, it's okay for people who've been playing for 3+ years.

[Vivik]

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc..

I agree, that would make going into abyssea much more fun. Why bother with all of the timesink.

[rog]

Yes, lets get rid of experience points, give everyone 1 billion gil, level all crafts, give them all relic armor etc etc.. (Sigh..). If people have this attitude they should just shut the servers down for good. I'm only saying this cause I've been playing for 3 months, it's okay for people who've been playing for 3+ years.
No, you are missing the point. Leveling is NOT something most people enjoy. So why have it? The game would function just fine without exp. It wouldn't really be a whole lot different than it is now. Except we wouldn't have to waste our time sitting around all day in abyssea leeching exp.

Also, for those that are confused about this, i actually wasn't joking. I see no reason we need exp. Or why we should even want it for that matter. Maybe removing it entirely is a bit overkill, but at the very least, i do think exp should be even easier to get than it already is.

[Birdkiller]

I think they should also pay us for playing their game too. :D

[Niklz]

How about a ninja update where all people who leech or open boxes actually lose a level then get kicked from Abyssea automatically once they hit 29.

[rog]

How about a ninja update where all people who leech or open boxes actually lose a level then get kicked from Abyssea automatically once they hit 29.
Opening boxes loses you a level? That seems a bit silly.

[Dauntless]

My word.. this is a BRILLIANT idea!

[Vivik]

My word.. this is a BRILLIANT idea!

Almost as brilliant as your sig on an official forum. But you're not trolling....

[Malamasala]

That a nice way to call me no life for playing FFXI? To answer it, it was my personal choice to do all these job, i agree i have more free time then general player, but to say i am a 'no-life' just because of it that was an free attack.

Uh, I'm not sure what lines you are reading between, but I'm saying that the game should offer everyone a way to enjoy the game. I am however assuming anyone picking Hard is going to change their mind and be tortured forever by their choice and quit. Which I'd find ironic and wonderful since it will prove people complaining about easy mode are just jerks.

[Dauntless]

Almost as brilliant as your sig on an official forum. But you're not trolling....

What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

[Vivik]

What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

Or they could just ban the active account you're using to post with.

[Babygyrl]

Should just get rid of all the exp in abyssea period. would put this game at a perfect balance and open vana'diel back up.

They cant drop exp from aby theres no where yt olevel outside of aby for 80+ for decent EXP.. how would we hit 90? just level sync.. no thats stupid. The most simplest way to bring vandeil back and retain balance is to cap aby at 70-75+ problem solved that simple...

Not exping at all is just dumb.. might as well not be an mmo and solo everything at that rate.

[Dauntless]

Again.......


What, are they gonna ban a character that is inactive?

[Yarly]

Leveling is currently so quick in abyssea, and more often than not people simply leech in parties without actually doing anything. This leeching provides no benefit, and i suggest that instead of making us do this, instead remove experience points from the game entirely, and simply have everyone start at level 99, without needing to exp at all.

I support this.
I think that people should also have the Transcendency effect (from the Primeval Brew) for at least 72 hours upon each login in order to make content more accessible for new players. Players can choose to "click off" the effect if they wish but can reapply the effect by logging out and logging in. Also the Transcendency effect should stay on in the event of a death and also after zoning. Players who wish to use a Primeval Brew while under the effect of Transcendency will sadly have no effect.

This is how the game will be completely fun for everyone!

[Jalserba_Darkwood]

ok i normaly dont mind people with thier own idears but what has happend to gammers today always want things easy if ur that botherd with exp why not just have the amount u need lowerd and u might as well have no levels just have job names if u want to start of at level 99 cause that is odd 98 levels that u never see.

P.S please dont take offence it is not in my intensions to offend anyone.

[Vivik]

ok i normaly dont mind people with thier own idears but what has happend to gammers today always want things easy if ur that botherd with exp why not just have the amount u need lowerd and u might as well have no levels just have job names if u want to start of at level 99 cause that is odd 98 levels that u never see.

P.S please dont take offence it is not in my intensions to offend anyone.

I want easy things to read.

[Jalserba_Darkwood]

cant help you there i have never been good at my typing lol

[Vivik]

cant help you there i have never been good at my typing lol

It's all good man lol