New Nyzul disappointment doubled to quintupled Alexandrite prices. Your move, SE.

[Edyth]

Old ripoff: 10K
New ripoffs: 20K to 50K
Source: Quetzalcoatl

This isn't BALANCED. Forward to Tanaka ASAP!

[Kaisha]

They were 30-50k on Asura before and after the update.

Only reason some people dropped it prior was to unload their stock before the potential price-drop on alex if Nyzul2 didn't bomb as bad as it did. Lord knows that never happened though.

[MarkovChain]

Old ripoff: 10K
New ripoffs: 20K to 50K
Source: Quetzalcoatl

This isn't BALANCED. Forward to Tanaka ASAP!

I like the new nyzul for this. It almost better money than dynamis now, hope it goes higher.

[Alkimi]

Unless you're actively killing NMs when you don't need to (which nobody is because of the strict time limit) there's not much of an alex return on neo-nyzul. Best we've got from 4 runs is 61 alex, so 10 each if you're splitting six ways.

I'd suggest upgrading the level of alex everything can drop in there:

Normal mobs can drop singles
NMs can drop cotton purse
20/40/60 etc. NMs can drop linen purse

As it stands neo-nyzul has had zero impact on alex supply, it's just getting worse and worse.

[wish12oz]

Note to self: Move to Quetz, do salvage, make tons.

[Helel]

I like the new nyzul for this. It almost better money than dynamis now, hope it goes higher.

You must suck at dynamis.

[Fupafighter]

20k sounds perfectly reasonable for the people that are going out of their way to farm these for the purpose of making gil haha. I do agree alex supply is low, but low supply means higher prices. And gil is extremely easy to make. Your only issue should be finding the alexandrite. I know I don't own a relic, but I know it's pretty easy to make 2-3 million gil a day if you set your mind to it.

[MarkovChain]

When I said "it" is almost better than dynamis I meant that salvage farming is almost better than dynamis. 30 min = 30 alex = 600k. Soon it i sgoing to be better as dynamis coins prices keeps decreasing while alex seems to explode. Granted not BST-soloable.

[Alkimi]

20k sounds perfectly reasonable for the people that are going out of their way to farm these for the purpose of making gil haha. I do agree alex supply is low, but low supply means higher prices. And gil is extremely easy to make. Your only issue should be finding the alexandrite. I know I don't own a relic, but I know it's pretty easy to make 2-3 million gil a day if you set your mind to it.

Gil might be easier to make, but 600 million gil for a mythic weapon is ridiculous any way you look at it.

[Tamoa]

They were 30-50k on Asura before and after the update.

Only reason some people dropped it prior was to unload their stock before the potential price-drop on alex if Nyzul2 didn't bomb as bad as it did. Lord knows that never happened though.


Highest I've seen is 30k (and they don't seem to sell at all), and I check bazaars on a daily basis and have been doing so since the 99 empyrean weapon trial was introduced. I have a good friend who's working on a mythic and I often pick up alexandrites for him for 10-13k.

[Monchat]

You must suck at dynamis.

yep we suck. Only made 2 empy 99 and 3 relic 99 in 6 month.

[Myo]

As a player making a mythic weapon on quetz, I'd like to say I actually don't mind alexandrite being pricy and hard to get. I'm gonna feel really proud when i finish my weapon, If every person was walking around with a mythic the way they have an emp or relic, I wouldn't have started one anyway. 600M for a mythic is harsh, I admit. But if you don't wanna put that much time into farming alexandrite or gil, don't start one. Frankly, if they made alexandrite as cheap and accessable as dynamis currency, I'd probably just quit the game at this point.

In short: I like it the way it is.

[Monchat]

if it drops to 12k like before january-february then I for sure won't go out of my way to farm them.

[Camiie]

As a player making a mythic weapon on quetz, I'd like to say I actually don't mind alexandrite being pricy and hard to get. I'm gonna feel really proud when i finish my weapon, If every person was walking around with a mythic the way they have an emp or relic, I wouldn't have started one anyway. 600M for a mythic is harsh, I admit. But if you don't wanna put that much time into farming alexandrite or gil, don't start one. Frankly, if they made alexandrite as cheap and accessable as dynamis currency, I'd probably just quit the game at this point.

In short: I like it the way it is.


This is why we can't have nice things.

[Zumi]

People still want mythics? Could just get an empyrean weapon and save yourself the gil.

[Fupafighter]

Gil might be easier to make, but 600 million gil for a mythic weapon is ridiculous any way you look at it.

THEN DONT GO FOR A MYTHIC. Damn...how long did it take people to get relics back in like 07....You want the best shit in the game? take the time and earn it.

[Vold]

As a player making a mythic weapon on quetz, I'd like to say I actually don't mind alexandrite being pricy and hard to get. I'm gonna feel really proud when i finish my weapon, If every person was walking around with a mythic the way they have an emp or relic, I wouldn't have started one anyway. 600M for a mythic is harsh, I admit. But if you don't wanna put that much time into farming alexandrite or gil, don't start one. Frankly, if they made alexandrite as cheap and accessable as dynamis currency, I'd probably just quit the game at this point.

In short: I like it the way it is.
That's all fine and dandy but they aren't meant to cost us the kind of prices you are seemingly okay with. The 550ish/who knows how many at this point mythic owners didn't pay a dime over what per drite? Like 3k per. They are meant to be cheap. x 30,000. So I wouldn't exactly pitch a fit if SE actually fixed mythics. Drite limitations are a small part of why there's only 550-600 mythics in circulation today but it'll become a big part as long as someone somewhere is okay with throwing such large amounts of gil away because they play for 10 hours a day farming gil. Do you really want to pay 50k per drite when people before you paid 3k? x30,000 of them? Come on, now.

SE lifted the level cap. We didn't ask for it. And now there's no real reason to do salvage except for drites. It's on their head to fix things one way or another to ensure drite supply is plentiful as before. And they are going to do it.

[Fupafighter]

That's all fine and dandy but they aren't meant to cost us the kind of prices you are seemingly okay with. The 550ish/who knows how many at this point mythic owners didn't pay a dime over what per drite? Like 3k per. They are meant to be cheap. x 30,000. So I wouldn't exactly pitch a fit if SE actually fixed mythics. Drite limitations are a small part of why there's only 550-600 mythics in circulation today but it'll become a big part as long as someone somewhere is okay with throwing such large amounts of gil away because they play for 10 hours a day farming gil. Do you really want to pay 50k per drite when people before you paid 3k? x30,000 of them? Come on, now.

SE lifted the level cap. We didn't ask for it. And now there's no real reason to do salvage except for drites. It's on their head to fix things one way or another to ensure drite supply is plentiful as before. And they are going to do it.
K so what your saying is "people are overpricing alexandrite". Gotcha. And where are you getting 50k. I saw a bazaar on siren with 150 of them for 12k. I see them under 20k all the time... 600 mil for the BEST WEAPONs in the game seems worth it to me If you have nothing else to accomplish.

[Jonadriel]

Hi guys, I don't usually post stuff in forums, but i'd like to say this cause of what's happening with alexandrites. As a mythic owner i can say that it is well worth the effort. And even though i didn't pay more than 15k per alex, I did payed around 10k - 12k each. And to me, is a fare price when u realize that almost noone is doing salvage anymore and that gil is a lot more accesible now than ever.
Back pre-abyssea era ppl payed up to 5k per alex, but back there ppl didn't make as much gil as they do now and alex was more readily available than now. So, if you think about it, in an effort point of view is still the same. Back then it was hard to see ppl walking around with 20M - 50M gil. Now u see ppl with that amount of gil walking around and even more, without even spending time on farmming gil like it was done back in the days. So, my point is, in term of effort/amount of gil, is still the same. Olny thing is that alex is just not that much available anymore.
Another thing about mythic that most ppl might not realize yet, is that it was meant to be in stages. First u needed captain rank just to get started, then get kings tittles and then start on the alex part. Alexandrite part was meant to be collected after ppl completed that stage, that's why u don't see them stack like u see currency where u can trade 100 for one that was equal to that amount. Now u see a lot of ppl getting alexandrites BEFORE they even get captain rank or get king tittles, and by doing so they make it even harder for ppl that do have the other requirements to collect the alexandrite they need. I bet there is a lot of mules jut stacking alexandrite but not working on getting themself a captain rank. I know ppl say that is good to start collecting them as soon as possible, but wile u do so, at least do yourself a favor and work on getting the other quests done too.
I started collecting alexandrites around a year ago once i had captain rank and I went to do salvage almost every single day i could to collect them and not just spamming every bazaar I saw. Believe me, doing slavage for alex makes it a lot easier. The olny prob with that is that it means u gotta do the EFORT of actully working for the mythic and not just buy it like u can do with relics and even empys.
If you think the mythic u want is worth the effort, then work for it, get yourself some friends and do the pre-requisites and spam salvage. Don't expect to find 30k alexandrites in a bazaar waitting for you to buy them at a very cheap price when you are not willing to work your ass to get them. Ppl are used to do so little and get a lot that now whatever means doing something that actully requires effort and time, is just not fare to them. Don't expect SE to make everything in the game so easy for you to get just becuase they made an event (abyssea) that is that easy. U want easy stuff, stick with abyssea but don't start posting crap to SE to change events to make them easier just because u are not willing to do the effort to get the stuff from them.
If you actully want a mythic u'll hop on and work for it, not just expect that SE hand it over to you. Depending on what mythic u want, is worth the effort, believe me.

[Yoky]

I love how everyone seems to forget Currency did the same thing when SE changed namis. People didnt understand proc's and because you could go once a day, everyone thought they could make a relic. So prices went up and people were willing to pay it..

So it's not SE's fault alex has gone up in price? nope.. Who should you blame? US, The buyers. I was only pay 10k and now and then maybe 12-13k befoe nyzul update. Now I dont think twice bout dropping 15-17k, so as a seller why would you sell for less.. I know i wouldnt.

But then like previously states.. I dont mind the current prices.. Atleast when i finish mine, i will know i have something that everyone wont have. Sense of accomplishment... WIN!

Oh well.. people want everything to be easy, those that do will have to get over it and know that some stuff isn't for everyone...And Mythics are one of those.. 600 mil for a mythic.. keep it there.. I will finish mine at that rate.

[detlef]

I wouldn't care about the price tag if there was more alexandrite out there to buy. According to AH, you're about 1/6 done. If I were in your shoes I would be very concerned about the supply. Maybe you're okay with 15k-17k now, but eventually so will all the buyers. You'll all grit your teeth and pay. And then you'll have to be okay with 20k. And 25k. And so on. Will you finish at that rate?

[Yoky]

Yes I will actually.. I have a means to make gil and buy alex and Farm Salvage.... Thanks for playing

[detlef]

Thanks for playing
I know you're being snarky, but I appreciate somebody thanking me for playing. I'm a bit surprised that you aren't concerned about the available supply of alexandrite. Anyway.

What annoys me currently is dragging people along to do SSR over and over. I'm pretty terrible at 3-boxing so I have to bring at least 1 other person with me. Would be nice to spruce up ZR and BR a bit to put them on par with SSR and AR alexandrite-wise. Really, with TH and without counting on a linen drop, SE should give us at least 100 alex per run. That's a nice number that people can point to and say 300 days of salvage and I'm done. That's still a huge commitment but at least it's a little more manageable.

[hiko]

get a team able to reach NIUR100, get your awesome gear+1linen(100%drop afaik)+whatever droped from other floor

it's not totally SE fault if most people ignore NIUR, and some people will start when stopper/KI are introduced

[Alkimi]

THEN DONT GO FOR A MYTHIC. Damn...how long did it take people to get relics back in like 07....You want the best shit in the game? take the time and earn it.

The bigger trouble is NOBODY can get a mythic atm, there just is no supply at all. I'm buying for anything up to 15k and have collected a massive 2k in 3 months, most of the time there is ZERO alexandrite in bazaars. And 600 million IS fucking ridiculous, the pre-requisites are a massive timesink as it is without adding the cost of six relics to it.

All we want is more supply of the stuff.

And this isn't 2007 anymore in case you hadn't noticed. Most people still playing now are in their 20s/30s and have jobs/families etc.

[macross]

You're not gonna be able to just buy gil and buy a mythic, you need to go farm salvage every day. I'm up to around 9k now in under 3 months, mostly farming and buying what I can that is cheap. I avg around 100 alex a day farming.

If you can't do this, then don't friggin buy it and sell it all back to those who can instead of cockblocking. It's people like YOU who are causing the price inflation, when you have no way in hell of ever finishing yet you pay stupid ammounts for them.

I'll be done in 5-6 months of farming every day, so you are incorrect saying no one can finish one.

[detlef]

Another one of my pet peeves is that there are a ton of people out there that have 1k alex, 3k alex, 500 alex, and they aren't selling because they think they can finish. These are the people that aren't really actively working on it, just hoarding it.

It's odd though, people who have mythics and a vocal portion of people working on mythics don't want to make the quest any easier. I guess that's not odd. I'm not against the 30k. It's been that way for a long time and I'm okay with it (although storage becomes quite an issue). Just like with heavy metal plates, I don't think anyone would really complain if the availability was increased.

As I posted either here or in another thread, if they just balanced the 4 salvage zones so that the average amount of alex obtained per run was roughly equal it would help a lot. If you could get ~100 alex per run, regardless of zone, it might encourage people to do salvage runs for gil and put the alex they get on the open market. To do this, I would suggest the following:

BR: Make it so that for a given run, 2 out of the 4 possible ramparts are "on."
AR: Increase cotton pouch drop rate on all NMs slightly (100% isn't necessary since there are so many NMs).
ZR: Increase alex drop rate on archaic mobs to compensate for the lack of NMs.
SSR: This zone is probably okay as-is.
Overall: Increase Linen drop rate to ~50% or so with TH7/TH8.

[Yoky]

I'm noticing people are starting to give up.. the past week I have seen many bazaars with 1000-3000 alex

alot of people that were shouting are now selling,

we did have someone on our server just wrap up 60,000 alex for 2 mythics.

[macross]

Should just increase the stupid drop rates and make the boss drop 100% linen.
Also should allow you go in solo so the beasts can farm.
Heck even a proc system like dynamis to make them drop more would work for me haha.
I wish the hoarders would sell here on bismarck lol.

[Deathrose]

Like most have said building a mythic is VERY time consuming, and for the most part im ok with it, because of the fact that I dont want every stupid player to be walking around with my treasured dagger and have not clue how to even wield it(id be so livid). The only problem I have with it is #1 supply and #2 the amount of time it would take to even farm the alex. per month you would need to amass 3k alex to even be done in a years time, granted with enough supply I wouldnt mind spending gil to buy them, but spend 5+years on one item is way too long and unlike most ppl I have a job and a life on top of a ls that does events regularly. So the main thing I think should be changed is supply. As much as I truely hate fighting ppl over mobs in dynamis(God I hate when ppl steal mobs and horde mobs, Pisses me off soooooo royally) I suppose I can grit my teeth and do it. I hate ppl so much sometimes lol.

[Zamms]

You all act like it is hard to do a mythic, we did 2 mythics in less then 5 months time. stop whining and get busy. Do SSR everyday can get lots of alexs in that area. Bhaflau would be better if ramparts would spawn more nm but meh.

[Arciel]

the situation presents itself pretty clearly. base mythics are much "harder" to get than emps or relics.

I don't think there'd be this much of an issue if people could actively work on progressing through it on their own.
because legendary weapons are mostly self-benefiting, lotsa people are doing it solo or in very small man groups. gone are the days when an LS would starve themselves of currency to fund 1 guy who may or may not benefit the team.

If enough Alex drops from party events, or if players could solo/duo effectively for Alex, then this isn't an issue.
The problem with having another 'easier' event to make gil in (Dynamis) to buy Alex is that it merely makes it easier for people to buy (demand) Alex, but does NOTHING to its supply.

More than before, DD > SS. And this is why the prices are going up.

If people could solo Salvage for the puny number of alex it gives, a lot of them would, and this in turn would flood the market because people doing it for gil will pitch in and increase the overall demand.