[dev1102] Job Adjustments: Black Mage

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I am not asking blm's for their opinion about blm. I am talking about the implementation of the spell metor. Therefor this is not an issue for the blm duscussion forum. Please do not move it again as the traffic there is terrible. If you feel the need to delete a duplicate thread, delete the other one and stop being so hasty and/or on the fly in these types of actions.
~Thank you.

Now again.

[dev1102] Job Adjustments: Black Mage
•New magic spell
•Meteor (Lv.99; Elemental Seal must be in effect)
•Deals non-elemental damage to enemies within area of effect.
*Casting the spell simultaneously with your party members will enhance the visual appearance and potency of the Meteor.
*Sound effects for this spell have not yet been fully implemented.

[Test Server Only]
•The spell may be cast without Elemental Seal in effect.Ok so my question is thus; In light of the fact that Elemental Seal is required to cast this spell, I am assuming it it so, but is it then subject to enhancement from such still?

[Dallas]

I think it's high time BLM get an upgrade to Elemental Seal. I'm thinking it's time for Elemental Walrus!

[Shipp]

Now again.
Ok so my question is thus; In light of the fact that Elemental Seal is required to cast this spell, I am assuming it it so, but is it then subject to enhancement from such still?
As a 99 BLM, this is something I was wondering also. Liking so the devs will hopefully take a look and this can be answered soon-ish.

Another thing, since this is non-elemental damage, and we obviously don't have a non-elemental magic skill, would this automatically go to Dark Magic skill for the accuracy, or is it still using our Elemental Magic skill for accuracy, despite being non-elemental damage?

Sorry if this has already been answered, but it was something I was also wondering along with Tsukino's question.

[Krashport]

I am not asking blm's for their opinion about blm. I am talking about the implementation of the spell metor. Therefor this is not an issue for the blm duscussion forum. Please do not move it again as the traffic there is terrible. If you feel the need to delete a duplicate thread, delete the other one and stop being so hasty and/or on the fly in these types of actions.
~Thank you.

Now again.
Ok so my question is thus; In light of the fact that Elemental Seal is required to cast this spell, I am assuming it it so, but is it then subject to enhancement from such still?

This topic is in the wrong area and should be moved to the Black Mage forums. Terrible traffic is not a reason it should not be. Also Job specific side of the forums are not just for opinions, You can talk/chat there as well. Just don't start answering yourself..

[Infidi]

Here's the thing, like Krashport said , the job forums are not JUST for opinions. That being said, I would assume it does effect it. Be kinda dumb if it didn't. This IS SE we're talking about though lol.

[Malamasala]

Should be based on skill over cap, just for the hilarity of spreading the SMN disease to other jobs.

[Metalgod]

Testing Meteor atm and provided some feedback, its base dmg in relation to cost of spell for solo blm isn't really worth it. Since there usually isn't enough ppl around on test server to test simultaneously casting potency SE will not get accurate testing results. Do like the visuals

[Alhanelem]

The community team looks in the appropriate sections for job-specific issues. You should not be concerned with the amount of "traffic" your thread gets. It's not like it's a petition or complaint thread, you're just asking a question.

Threads get moved for a reason- and it's not to punish you.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Testing Meteor atm and provided some feedback, its base dmg in relation to cost of spell for solo blm isn't really worth it. Since there usually isn't enough ppl around on test server to test simultaneously casting potency SE will not get accurate testing results. Do like the visualsHave you been testing with and without ES?
The community team looks in the appropriate sections for job-specific issues. You should not be concerned with the amount of "traffic" your thread gets. It's not like it's a petition or complaint thread, you're just asking a question.

Threads get moved for a reason- and it's not to punish you.That's not the point I was making. The rep moved it without any acknowedgement of what the thread contianed. Probably without even reading and/or comprehending the point it was trying to make. They simply saw blm in the title and moved it without thinking. Actions like that put the forum in dissaray.

[Zinato]

This topic is in the wrong area and should be moved to the Black Mage forums. Terrible traffic is not a reason it should not be. Also Job specific side of the forums are not just for opinions, You can talk/chat there as well. Just don't start answering yourself..

I think you are incorrect, the question asked was about the spell itself and has nothing to do with BLM as a job. The fact the information came from the BLM adjustment is the only linking factor. While the OP did make a comment about low traffic that fact is irrelevant since it doesn't belong there in the first place. Also there is no magic or spell forum so here is as good a place as any.

On the topic, chances are the ability will still rely on elemental skill and the way I see it is like this. As with black and white light (Black being absence of and White being presence of all color) Non-elemental is either a form of all or no elements when dealing damage, in either case it still draws power from the elements just on different levels. (I've always imagined Non-elemental as a form of all elements since it's generally more powerful then individual elements, as well as the fact that it is not resisted by any mob with exception of enemies that take reduced magic damage.) This is further shown by the need for elemental seal for casting, thus drawing all elements together before the cast. My only question then is how the staves come into play, Magian or Prism both come to mind.

[Alhanelem]

That's not the point I was making. The rep moved it without any acknowedgement of what the thread contianed. Probably without even reading and/or comprehending the point it was trying to make. They simply saw blm in the title and moved it without thinking. Actions like that put the forum in dissaray. That might be your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's actually what happened.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Oh hey, test server people. I'm siding with elemental, but I just wanted to double check that this isn't dark based.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Originally posted by Byrth in regards to Meteor:




* This Spell Cannot Resist. We cast it a lot. Not a single thing that could be called a Resist.

* This spell really is non-elemental. Pluto's and the Dark Affinity damage+ Magian stave both did nothing for it.

[Alhanelem]

Meteor is nonelemental, and categorized as dark magic.

The spell is basically worthless when cast alone, but incredibly powerful (and I mean holy s**t powerful) when cast by a party of black mages.

Some details in case you can't be bothered to actually read the test feedback forum:

413 MP (currently)

own experience:
~1200-1500 dmg solo (depending on target and equipment)
~18500 dmg w/ 5 BLMs
Some have reported over 60000 dmg w/ 6 blm in Abyssea. (Note that no elemental atma affect it- only MAB / INT is useful)

When cast by multiple players, it really does combine into one spell with a single damage total (it's not like ja spells where each spellcast does its own damage)- Players don't have to start casting at the exact same time, the casting for the first person won't finish until the casting for the last person finishes. The first person to start casting gets credit for the damage/kill. It says in the log when cast by a group: "Soandso leads the casting of Meteor. Target takes # damage."

The animation is completely totally different from monster meteor. It's amazing, this is probably one of the most badass things ever to be added to the game. You really can MEE TEE ORR just like the chebukkis :p

[Tsukino_Kaji]

So now, who ever it is moving thread read your last one and moved it to tactics.... This is getting rediculous. If a mod moves a thread, he should not be able to move it covertly and without reason like this one keeps doing. I'm assuming it's the same one because this is getting moronic.