So after the adjustment to Group 2 Stratagems...

[Eric]

Did you change your merit setup at all?

I went from having:
5/5 Stormsurge
5/5 Enlightenment

to having:
5/5 Stormsurge
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Equanimity

But... Even with the new reduced stratagem cost, these merits still feel just as useless as before. Does anyone agree with me?

[Sotek]

5/5 Stormsurge
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Tranquility

Tranquility is going to be damned good after the Healing Magic adjustment, potentially a better choice for Cure Stratagem than Rapture.

Waiting on the Enlightenment changes too, though I doubt SE can ever make Enlightenment worthwhile.

[Raksha]

5/5 Stormsurge
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Equanimity

Didn't change mine at all.

[Yukichibi]

5/5 Stormsurge
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Tranquility

Tranquility is going to be damned good after the Healing Magic adjustment, potentially a better choice for Cure Stratagem than Rapture.

Waiting on the Enlightenment changes too, though I doubt SE can ever make Enlightenment worthwhile.

I really wonder, because with Heka's Kalasiris giving so much cure potency, you can cap cure potency and enmity -.
So is it really that good ?

5/5 Stormsurge
1/5 Enlightenment
4/5 Equanimity

I was 4/5 Equanimity, and just put it at 0 because i got a lot in voidwatch as a nuker, and had a bunch of erase to do, so Enlightenment 1/5 was not enough.
I'm still wondering which combinaison is the best among merit T2. :confused:

[TimeMage]

Still 5/5 Enlightenment and 5/5 Stormsurge. +10 to all stats (specifically enhancing magic) is very important for me, as I use Embrava quite frequently.

[Sotek]

I really wonder, because with Heka's Kalasiris giving so much cure potency, you can cap cure potency and enmity -.
So is it really that good ?

Tranquility and Equanimity pushed beyond the enmity cap from what I remember. Tranquility on Cure IV (which is going to be about 40% more potent after the adjustments) will effectively give it a similar, or even lower, enmity gain than Cure V/VI. Not to mention you have Regen V healing a small part as well. Rapture is becoming more and more like Divine Seal in my opinion.

[Dantedmc]

I currently still have 5/5 stormsurge and enlightment because I don't know what I want to change to yet. I was thinking either 5/5 tranquility or equanimity for the -enm and 5/5 enlightenment for +10 enhancing skill. Or 5/5 tranquility and 4/5 equanmity and 1/5 enlightenment. I'm really thinking about dropping stormsurge because the only beneficial one for mages is hailstorm int and I use thunderstorm unless im in abyssea. For melee, I think they will be ok without my +7(12) to stats. It's really a hard choice though because these are all good merits for sch and i'm unsure of what I want at the moment.

[Eric]

To be honest, all of the melees and 90% of the BLMs I've played with couldn't care less about whether or not I cast weather on them. Sometimes I feel like I'm just wasting effort making sure everyone's covered, and most of the time I feel like it doesn't make a difference anyways.

Maybe I just play with terrible players, but stormsurge seems just as useless as the rest of the Group 2 merits. After thinking more about what Sotek said, tranquility might be the only useful one after the update.

[Kokorololi]

1/5 Enlightenment, 1/5 Stormsurge, 5/5 Equanimity, which I already had before the change. All this changed is that I really spam Equanimity now instead of using it when I'm dangerously close to 100% enmity.

The other two didn't matter enough to me to bother putting more points into either. I'm thinking to just get rid of Stormsurge completely and put the rest into Tranquility.

[Eric]

The proposed Cure updates (as seen on the test server) have made me a very happy scholar. After seeing the new numbers for Cure IV, I think it's quite clear that the update will make Tranquility the must-have stratagem for SCH.

[Dantedmc]

I just realized that you can't use tranquility with minuo active. I currently have -50 enm with minuo up so I could either have -50 enm all the time or -70 enm (.5 * .6) some of the time. 20 more -enm some of the time doesn't seem as awesome now. What needs to be done is either:

1. Allow pax and tranquility to stack
or
2. Allow use of tranquility while excluding the effect of minuo

[Raksha]

I just realized that you can't use tranquility with minuo active.

http://files.sharenator.com/wtf_is_this_shit_the_post_of_reposts-s400x297-231018-580.jpg

Nice job SE.


EDIT: I guess a mod deleted my "WTF is this shit?" picture.

[Eric]

I just realized that you can't use tranquility with minuo active. I currently have -50 enm with minuo up so I could either have -50 enm all the time or -70 enm (.5 * .6) some of the time. 20 more -enm some of the time doesn't seem as awesome now. What needs to be done is either:

1. Allow pax and tranquility to stack
or
2. Allow use of tranquility while excluding the effect of minuo

:(

That's what I get for being too optimistic .

[Dantedmc]

So although we still can't use tranquility with pax there is some good news. In vw there is an atmacite that gives up to -30 enm thus allowing us to ignore minuo and in legion there is an earring (Cytherea Pearl) allowing us to recieve -20 (in legion) which would remove the need for minuo also. So we could atleast use it in those two events.

I also tried out cures after the update and cure IV was doing 970 ish while cure III was doing around 520. Very great update for sch.

[Yukichibi]

Someone told me that Tranquility stacks with enmity - from gear, thus bringing you potentially to -100 enmity.
Enmity - works as a percentage of enmity, -50 = -50%.
So now with the easiness of spamming 800ish cure IV, Tranquility seems a must have. (dunno if the atmacite's enmity - stacks with gear one).

[Raksha]

Someone told me that Tranquility stacks with enmity - from gear, thus bringing you potentially to -100 enmity.
Enmity - works as a percentage of enmity, -50 = -50%.
So now with the easiness of spamming 800ish cure IV, Tranquility seems a must have. (dunno if the atmacite's enmity - stacks with gear one).

Incorrect. Kaeko tested it to be multiplicative with gear -enmity. so .5*.5=.25 so you end up with only 25% of original enmity (or a 75% reduction if you want to look at it that way).