New elemental spirits Plz, & Phys BPs

[radicaldreamer]

Kinda tired of seeing the same old elemental spirit scrolls in the AH. :eek:

How about those new elementals in Abyssea? (Baelfyr, Gefyrst, Byrgen, & Ungeweder) Would be nice if they had like a 1% chance to drop a scroll to summon them.
Or maybe even a job ability that let's you form a temporary pact with elementals wandering Vana'Diel and Abyssea, until it dies. (sort of like beastmaster's charm ability, but for SMN and only works on elementals)

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Also it would be nice if in the next uncap, smn could see a couple AOE damage blood pact Rage abilities, and new PHYSICAL Blood Pact: Rage attacks! I spent all my merits into physical str and acc for avatars, and none of the new attacks are physical. -_-

[JagerForrester]

As long as "Devivication" doesn't play a role, I can see summoning the abyssea elementals a possibility. And I think a temporary pact with elementals strays off the background of the job as well as how it is built.

Jager tosses 2 gil into the thread.

[Strife]

I have often thought SMN should be able to 'charm' elementals in some way how exactly it would work I don't know though maybe they could have a lower perpetuation cost during their associated weather or they could have a 0 MP cost but disappear if you loose the weather effect, that'd be fun half way through fighting a NM your pet goes POOF! lol.

The elementals in abyssia are just normal elementals with 2 elements -and a different model obviously- I'd prefer to stick with our current 1 element spirits so I can more easily target an enemies weakness & just buff their stats & increase their casting frequency & AI so they're actually useful because even though I did actively try to make use of them I quickly relented to the fact that they're only uses are for siphoning MP & distracting something that agros you while you run for the trees!


Also it would be nice if in the next uncap, SMN could see a couple AOE damage blood pact Rage abilities, and new PHYSICAL Blood Pact: Rage attacks! I spent all my merits into physical str and acc for avatars, and none of the new attacks are physical. -_-

I think SE did this intentionally to get SMN away from just using physical BPs & make the job a little more varied.

[Ezikiel]

being able to cast the melded elemental spirits would be a nice pace change for SMN i vote for this also

[radicaldreamer]

Yeah some people will like the standard elementals over the newer ones, but it's not like they'd replace the single-element ones. ;-)
I have a humongous list of spells for rdm/whm/blm and then let's see... like sixteen summon spells altogether right?

How about non-battle summons too?
Ex: Summon mystic cool-looking chocobo to ride on, with a 60 min recast timer. (works in Abyssea too)
And in case not everyone knows, Chocobos have been summon monsters before, so not completely out of nowhere. :P

Ex2: Cait Sith or Atomos, could be used to retrace-ga to your past home nation's nearest maw, instead of trying to figure out a battle setup for them. 30 min recast.


I need some FF time so I can stop thinking. :-)

[Malamasala]

Once upon a time I suggested that to make Summoner more party friendly, we should be able to summon party members to our location. I feel like this idea kind of trickled away into the coat SE released later with a much longer recast and job independent. Would have been nice to have though, so you could more easily invite new party members.

I don't believe in those hybrid spirits though. Remember that you'd most likely have a worse ratio of debuffs vs nukes on them, making you debuff more often than nuke compared to old spirits, and old spirits SPAM debuffs.

[Strife]

I need some FF time so I can stop thinking. :-)
rotfl! Me to I've had a headache all week! =P

I like the idea of non-battle summons just for a bit of fun though I doubt it'll happen. People have been hounding SE for summonable mounts like in other games for ages, they responded with the Chocobo whistle & I think that's as good as we're going to get. Off topic but I'd like to see them extend the zones the whistle can be used in.