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Fupafighter
03-06-2012, 10:16 AM
Why don't you look at the gear. God atleast I attempt the event over and over without bitching about how I can't achieve 100, when I know I can. TAKES TIME. The gear is the best in the game for the slots, why the F would it be achievable faster than VW gear lol?
FrankReynolds
03-06-2012, 03:28 PM
Why don't you look at the gear. God atleast I attempt the event over and over without bitching about how I can't achieve 100, when I know I can. TAKES TIME. The gear is the best in the game for the slots, why the F would it be achievable faster than VW gear lol?
LOL because they are about to release new VW gear too? and salvage upgrades? and legion gear? and einherjar? and and .... This gear will probably be the top gear for less time than it takes to build a set of it.
Fupafighter
03-07-2012, 01:10 AM
K you lemme know how that turns out.
What byrth said. Some people have zero understanding of basic stats. If your good, you will get stuff faster because you can weather more bad luck than a bad group. A bad group needs once a millennium star alignment of perfection to get to 100. A good group will be far more successful.
Originally: Only people that could get to 100 regularly had a chance in hell to get the best gear.
Now: Anyone that can get to floor 80 can get some 100 gear. People that can reach 100 can get it faster.
How is that NOT an improvement? This increases the availability of this gear exponentially (literally).
Fupafighter
03-08-2012, 12:04 PM
Nyzle Isle is kinda like all other events, you have to have a job that can perform better at the event.... Can't expect go go in there with like a kannagi nin and think your going to get floor 100 gear.
Alkimi
03-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Kannagi NIN probably wouldn't be too bad in there, for us anything that's self-sufficient works since I'm usually left at the rune on SCH. 3/5 of our setup can heal themselves fine (BLU, Apoc DRK, THF) and the SAM and WAR destroy most mobs so quickly that they take little damage and the BLU can heal them at a pinch.
wish12oz
03-09-2012, 03:45 AM
NIN is good on EP content such as this. It's not nearly as useful as WAR which can 1 shot a single mob with ukkos or clear 2 rooms worth of stuff in 5-10 seconds with fell cleave, but it's not horrible.
Starry
03-09-2012, 10:58 AM
I honestly can't believe your letting someone named FUPA troll you this bad...forsrs guys..
Fupafighter
03-09-2012, 11:24 AM
Ok ninja does not have the damage output to help benefit people in nyzle isle. Even my dancer can do 2x the damage lol... I have gone with ninja's and they just kill slooooooooooow. It's like a thf without sneak attack.
Fupafighter
03-09-2012, 11:37 AM
NIN is good on EP content such as this. It's not nearly as useful as WAR which can 1 shot a single mob with ukkos or clear 2 rooms worth of stuff in 5-10 seconds with fell cleave, but it's not horrible.
Think you just proved my point. Your not going to make it to 80-100 with slow killing nin's when you could have a ukon warrior or a shoha sam or a good blu or a good dancer or a good (anything that can SC).....
FrankReynolds
03-09-2012, 01:08 PM
Think you just proved my point. Your not going to make it to 80-100 with slow killing nin's when you could have a ukon warrior or a shoha sam or a good blu or a good dancer or a good (anything that can SC).....
Are you really putting your dancer up there with war as a DD? for real realz? not for play playz?
Fupafighter
03-09-2012, 01:09 PM
Are you really putting your dancer up there with war as a DD? for real realz? not for play playz?
In nyzle isle yes lol...Dnc/war is pretty epic. VW...abyssea...no. Just saying ninja is nowhere near these jobs.
Tinuviel
03-13-2012, 02:11 AM
I can't imagine SE will reduce the # clears required on nyzul 2. They need to slow us down with grind so they don't have to generate new content! Going from 25 down to 20 is actually a big deal for their dev team...
Neisan_Quetz
03-13-2012, 02:32 AM
What the hell is this crap about Nin slow killing in Nyzul, do you fulltime pink/evasion gear on Nin or something equally stupid. It's no heavy DD but a good Nin isn't a total slouch either.
Concerned4FFxi
03-13-2012, 07:56 AM
Its supposed to be difficult for a skilled group to reach 100, so yes, a group with under geared or wrong jobs wouldnt make it to 100 and I'm fine with that.
Note: I havent reached 100 yet and that hasn't stopped me, it just makes me work harder and smarter, I hate when people complain they can't have everything but are unwilling to work or level and gear jobs specifically for certain functions in order to accomplish their goals.
Before the COP uncap nerf, I leveled ninja JUST to do cop 2-5. That was the solo purpose of leveling, gearing, and skilling the job at the time. With the introduction od abyssea it seems some people are not willing to go the extra mile in order to get what they want, then post on here for SE to lower the requirements in order to make everything easy access. I don't agree with that logic.
Karbuncle
03-13-2012, 08:05 AM
Neo-Nyzul is not impossible, I've seen a few 100 Screenshots myself, It may be less than legitimate, But it shows you can reach it. Though, the circumstances to reach said goal are unreasonably high. Some people in this thread genuinely fall unto the category of lazy you attempt to display, However, very many do not.
Every person has a unique view on what they consider a Goal. However, theres a fine line between Refusing to attempt something that is clearly unfair and unreasonable, and not attempting anything ever. Its not always about doing whatever it takes, sometimes there are trials that are just so unreasonable, you have to stand up and defy those giving the challenge.
Blindly attempting to do something that is unreasonable and Being super lazy and attempting nothing are just two sides of the same coin. One is pure laziness, the other Is a fools errand.
saevel
03-13-2012, 08:24 AM
The only thing I don't like is that floor 100 is only obtainable by 6 people of certain jobs with emps using questionable methods that had luck favor them. Kinda goes against SE's statement of not wanting to create content that is designed to require the best gear to participate in. No one is going to do nyzule isle for level 30~60, their only going to want level 80 and 100 which means their only going to accept the best people on a very small set of jobs.
SpankWustler
03-13-2012, 09:33 AM
I don't mind the set of jobs needed for Nyzul Isle much, because it can be drastically different from the set of jobs that does best in Abyssea or Voidwatch. Yeah, some jobs are needed for all three or two out of the three, but there's a lot of change as well.
Dancer and Scholar perform very well in Nyzul Isle, for example, and they've had nothing unique to offer in other recent content. Blue Mage is actually desired for being Blue Mage rather than Proccy Von Proccington the !! of the Unique Proc Dynasty. Warrior is put on the same level as everything else that does a lot of damage since a ton of weapons aren't needed for procs.
Fupafighter
03-13-2012, 01:49 PM
What the hell is this crap about Nin slow killing in Nyzul, do you fulltime pink/evasion gear on Nin or something equally stupid. It's no heavy DD but a good Nin isn't a total slouch either.
No duh...But does it compete with a 5 hit sam running around doing 3k shoha every 10 seconds? No lol. Unless there is some magical way for ninjas to double their damage, they won't keep up with a sam, war, blu, dnc in the new nyzle isle. And i could probably get a shitton of 90 kannagi people to verify that nin is only good at doing damage in abyssea haha.
Fupafighter
03-13-2012, 01:53 PM
Yeah SE is wrong to make the game favor certain jobs to kill certain content, but it has always been that way. I just suggest leveling atleast one job of each category lol, or you will not get very far in this game. It's not like the game is favoring jobs, it's favoring jobs for content. We have the option to lvl 20 jobs for a reason.
FrankReynolds
03-13-2012, 01:56 PM
No duh...But does it compete with a 5 hit sam running around doing 3k shoha every 10 seconds? No lol. Unless there is some magical way for ninjas to double their damage, they won't keep up with a sam, war, blu, dnc in the new nyzle isle. And i could probably get a shitton of 90 kannagi people to verify that nin is only good at doing damage in abyssea haha.
HA HA good thing there's a lot more to Nyzul than just whacking shit huh?
Fupafighter
03-13-2012, 01:59 PM
HA HA good thing there's a lot more to Nyzul than just whacking shit huh?
K we know your're a kannagi nin in denial....It's almost like me saying sam is good in abyssea before shoha...it wasn't. And yes, yes nyzle isle is basically whack shit and floor hop. And if you can't solve lamps within 3 minutes, your retarded.
Karbuncle
03-13-2012, 02:03 PM
HA HA good thing there's a lot more to Nyzul than just whacking shit huh?
I should direct you to the Pages of reasons why THF isn't useful in Nyzul. Nothing a NIN brings to the table will outweigh what a SAM or WAR will.
FrankReynolds
03-13-2012, 02:03 PM
K we know your're a kannagi nin in denial....It's almost like me saying sam is good in abyssea before shoha...it wasn't. And yes, yes nyzle isle is basically whack shit and floor hop. And if you can't solve lamps within 3 minutes, your retarded.
Dude, it's 2012, most people have like 10 jobs leveled. Your not special cuz you got tachi shoha. I have it too.
Fupafighter
03-13-2012, 02:12 PM
I should direct you to the Pages of reasons why THF isn't useful in Nyzul. Nothing a NIN brings to the table will outweigh what a SAM or WAR will.
TY carbuncle. Ninja and thf offer nothing but a waste of a slot. And damn frank...then go sam to nyzle isle and stop talking bout how ninja is good for it haha.