Ballista on Undine~

[Evviva]

Hello everyone~


Ballista needs some love!
So, in regards to the huge influx of threads posted everywhere about ballista, we (BallistaRevolution from Lakshmi http://vyiv.wordpress.com/) have decided to step out of the shadows, and take it upon ourselves to promote ballista on the test server.

In fact, we have blasted the forums on ffxiah(http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28447/ballista-test-server/), killingifrit(http://killingifrit.com/forums/topic/184266-who-wants-to-ballista/) and we have even gone as far as live streaming the event(http://www.twitch.tv/upbeatglitch/b/308283307).

Join us~

And to everyone saying ballista is dead - http://youtube.com/Evviva3980

In regards to us, we play 60 cap only, and as of recently we have been playing 99 cap on Undine, but still largely prefer 60.

Thanks for reading!
See you out there~

[Alhanelem]

I enjoy ballsta, but don't care much for the serious competitive scene, thus I strongly prefer no level caps- it can be a little crazy sometimes, but that's part of the fun.

It's pretty difficult to promote it in its current state- I really wish SE would come out and polish the balance a bit more, especially accounting for new features both high and low level, remove some of the barriers to entry, and create some incentives. Ballista is stuck in the past, and cannot move forward without acknowledging what has come about in the game since its inception with some updates.

P.S. The videos would be a bit more enjoyable with thematically appropriate music. Your music selections seem very random.

Everything aside, the test server is the closest thing we're ever going to get to cross-server battlegrounds, so it most certainly is a good idea to take advantage of it.

[Tile]

Would be great to have another Ballista Royale, but couldn't people just get relic and stuff that they dont really have because they are on the test server?

[Evviva]

I enjoy ballsta, but don't care much for the serious competitive scene, thus I strongly prefer no level caps-
Elaborate please.


Would be great to have another Ballista Royale, but couldn't people just get relic and stuff that they dont really have because they are on the test server?
An official Ballista Royale is indeed overdue; roughly speaking, about 5 years overdue~
However, the remaining 60 cap enthusiasts have enriched the Ballista Royale experience, and made it something completely unforgettable.
Played on a regular basis.. it's something we like to call Hako.

I worked hard for my relic on Undine, it only took me 5 minutes to get a 99. Wooooohoooo~

[Evviva]

With so many ballista threads, and so many different topics.

Is there any possibility of a sub-forum being created for player vs player?

[Evviva]

For those of you who are interested in hosting individual cross-server Ballista games through the test server, here are some example of what we're trying to aim for. If you're interested, feel free to join us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkM6O23V7gI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6OS_bseOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-WPUcSgAQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBwj2zUpysU

[Evviva]

Bump~
All it takes is logging on to the test server and grabbing a pearl!
Everyone receives a pearlsack, so redistribution is simple~

Cheers

[Evviva]

The best course of action for this dream to come true will need to be in the form of official matches; 60+99 cap.

I'll try to keep updating this thread with official match times.

07/06/2012
--- 60CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 01:45AM PST
Match starts: 02:14AM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 03:40AM PST
Match starts: 04:09AM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 05:36AM PST
Match starts: 06:04AM PST


07/06/2012
--- 99CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 07:31AM PST
Match starts: 08:00AM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 09:26AM PST
Match starts: 09:55AM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 11:21AM PST
Match starts: 11:50AM PST


08/06/2012
--- 60CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 06:33AM PST
Match starts: 07:02AM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 08:28AM PST
Match starts: 08:57AM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 10:24AM PST
Match starts: 10:52AM PST


--- 99CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 12:19PM PST
Match starts: 12:48PM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 2:14PM PST
Match starts: 2:43PM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 4:09PM PST
Match starts: 4:38PM PST


09/06/2012
--- 60CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 11:21AM PST
Match starts: 11:50AM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 1:16PM PST
Match starts: 1:45PM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 3:12PM PST
Match starts: 3:40PM PST


--- 99CAP ---
Jugner Forest
Sign ups start: 5:07PM PST
Match starts: 5:36PM PST

Pashow Marshlands
Sign ups start: 7:02PM PST
Match starts: 7:31PM PST

Meriphataud Mountains
Sign ups start: 8:57PM PST
Match starts: 8:26PM PST

Please do not sign-up before 18:00 to avoid unbalanced job sorting by the herald, thanks!

Please respond to this thread if possible to acknowledge your participation(or PM me) - otherwise, show up at the times listed and we'll go from there. I won't personally be able to attend every match, however the stage is set, and everyone needs to do their part~

Thanks for reading!

[Zerich]

this is totally why we have access to a test server!

[Alhanelem]

this is totally why we have access to a test server!
It's on all the time, and there isn't always a pressing need to test something, so it's not like you can't have any fun with it. Unless you can argue that a couple people meeting on the test server for some ballista somehow infringes on other people's ability to test things, I don't see a problem here. It's not like the test server hasn't been used for official not-testing-related events more than once in the past.


Elaborate please.Though it was a while ago, I owe you an elaboration.

It's simple really, I just like a good dose of chaos (whilst still playing the actual "game" of ballista, not just random killing). Generally speaking most of the newer stuff is "cooler" and more fun to use, so even though the balance isn't quite as good (A simple "<=AF3 and no relic/mythic/empy rule keeps things from getting too messy) I find it more fun (though I agree it's not as good for a highly competitive game).

Also, a small part of it is the jobs I like to play seem to perform better in uncapped than in 60 due to a lack of certain abilities that are (in my opinion) vital to those jobs (e.g. PUP: Role Reversal, Merit BPs on SMN (because they ignore shadows, which at least when I played ballista more heavily, were critical because everyone and their mother would sub NIN)). This has changed somewhat recently however. The helixes, a part of what makes sch unique (even if they're a bit lackluster in PvP), are now useable in 60 cap when they weren't before. PUP got Deus-ex Automata, which meant that people gang-raping your automaton wouldn't cripple you for a third of the match. SMN is still a problem though. pretty much the only reason I would take it to 60cap would be for astral flow.

[Evviva]

Though it was a while ago, I owe you an elaboration.

It's simple really, I just like a good dose of chaos (whilst still playing the actual "game" of ballista, not just random killing). Generally speaking most of the newer stuff is "cooler" and more fun to use, so even though the balance isn't quite as good (A simple "<=AF3 and no relic/mythic/empy rule keeps things from getting too messy) I find it more fun (though I agree it's not as good for a highly competitive game).

Also, a small part of it is the jobs I like to play seem to perform better in uncapped than in 60 due to a lack of certain abilities that are (in my opinion) vital to those jobs (e.g. PUP: Role Reversal, Merit BPs on SMN (because they ignore shadows, which at least when I played ballista more heavily, were critical because everyone and their mother would sub NIN)). This has changed somewhat recently however. The helixes, a part of what makes sch unique (even if they're a bit lackluster in PvP), are now useable in 60 cap when they weren't before. PUP got Deus-ex Automata, which meant that people gang-raping your automaton wouldn't cripple you for a third of the match. SMN is still a problem though. pretty much the only reason I would take it to 60cap would be for astral flow.

I understand, I too love a good dose of chaos, thank you for elaborating!
I agree with your opinion that a multitude of jobs perform better in uncap as opposed to 60 cap :D

I recently played a small(6v6) level 60 cap match as SMN/BLU. I felt the job combination to be fairly busy, ranging from support :ward BP(noctoshield/earthern ward etc) to :rage BP(IV spells, thunderspark etc) all while juggling support job abilities. I likewise doubled up as a very effective damage sponge, which was incredibly exciting lol. However, you're absolutely right, a summoner in an uncap evironment has a multitude of additional toys for the occasion - and consequently astral flow would just be icing on the cake.

Cheers, I enjoyed reading your post.

[Alhanelem]

The addition where BPs dont use up your timer when out of range really helped a lot, now we just need the "don't use up BP timer when target dies before BP goes off" feature.

PUP has also improved a lot in lower level PvP, but it's still at a bit of disadvantage because you have literally no melee gear until lv70+ (though with some practice, I can keep up with the other players, just not usually a top scorer) and before PUP's HTH skill cap increase, they didn't have access to a weapon skill worth using. Not that it's any real measure of performance, but I have a very strong record 99PUP 1v1 against many other jobs. And when I think about it, it makes me really feel like DRG should have a deus ex wyverna, even though the wyvern is not as critical to the job as the automaton is to PUP. When I duel, if they target my pet, I can just call it a second time after they switch back to me and usually get a spell off (if mage frame) or take down his shadows for a WS (if melee). The biggest challenge in a real match with PUP and DRG is their pets are much more squishy than avatars and call beast pets, so you have to be really careful with them to not give out an easy gate breach even while never dying yourself.

I really hope that when PvP comes to FFXIV that it's not thrown to the wind by the team as Ballista was.

[Scudo]

Following is the official match listing for 3 days in advance. If you're unable to participate on the test server, I hope this schedule helps de-mystify match times. ;)

---60CAP ---
Jugner Forest 10/06/2012
Entry: 4:09PM PST Match: 04:38PM PST
Pashow Marshlands 10/06/2012
Entry: 06:04PM PST Match: 06:33PM PST
Meriphataud Mountains 10/06/2012
Entry: 08:00PM PST Match: 08:21PM PST
Jugner Forest 11/06/2012
Entry: 08:57PM PST Match: 9:26PM PST
Pashow Marshlands 11/06/2012
Entry: 10:52PM PST Match: 11:21PM PST
Meriphataud Mountains 12/06/2012
Entry: 12:48AM PST Match: 1:16AM PST
Jugner Forest 13/06/2012
Entry: 1:45AM PST Match 2:14AM PST
Pashow Marshlands 13/06/2012
Entry: 3:40AM PST Match 4:09AM PST
Meriphataud Mountains 13/06/2012
Entry: 05:36AM PST Match: 06:04AM PST

---99CAP---
Jugner Forest 10/06/2012
Entry: 9:55PM PST Match: 10:24PM PST
Pashow Marshlands: 11/06/2012
Entry: 11:50PM PST Match 12:19AM PST
Meriphataud Mountains: 11/06/2012
Entry: 1:45AM PST Match: 2:14AM PST
Jugner Forest 12/06/2012
Entry: 2:43AM PST Match: 3:12AM PST
Pashow Marshlands 12/06/2012
Entry 04:38AM PST Match: 05:07AM PST
Meriphataud Mountains 12/06/2012
Entry: 06:33AM PST Match: 07:02AM PST
Jugner Forest 13/06/2012
Entry: 07:31AM PST Match: 08:00AM PST
Pashow Marshlands 13/06/2012
Entry: 9:26AM PST Match: 9:55AM PST
Meriphataud Mountains 13/06/2012
Entry: 11:21AM PST Match: 11:50AM PST

[Scudo]

I think the only way for people to see the complexities present in Ballista is to come out and play, at least once.

[Evviva]

Official matches today starting with 60 cap begin in 7hours~
Join us :D