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Hayward
01-24-2012, 04:41 AM
I'm posting this mainly because Fire and Light weather is almost non-existent and the drop rates of geodes/Avatarites are so pathetically low that it has opened the door to inflation. I also know some "white knight" (you know, the one who thinks S-E can do no wrong and how lazy NAs should have more discipline) will come to this thread talking smack about "easy-mode" this and "easy-mode" that.

We're talking about needing 55 geodes and 15 Avatarites to finish Elemental Magian trials. That's not a small number with the drop rates as they are. No one can just go anywhere and farm them in short order like crystals. On a good day, it can be considered lucky if one comes away with 2~3 geodes or 2 Avatarites per game day. That means 8 hours of waiting between days if the corresponding weather is not frequent or long-lasting.

I am wondering if there are any plans to increase the drop rates of these stones to ease the inflation and make these trials less dependent on luck.

Brolic
01-24-2012, 07:26 AM
it's 100% Light weather in nyzul

RAIST
01-24-2012, 07:31 AM
starting to get the feeling they are heavily influenced by moon phase or something. no hard numbers to support it, it's just starting to feel like the frequency goes in a cyclical pattern of sorts in abyssea, which would point to either season or moon phase I guess.

Dreamin
01-24-2012, 07:34 AM
Can't remember where I've read it from but I believed that it is seasonal in many zones.

Also, drop rate on these are similar to KS, which I believe is like 1 per 5min per party in an alliance. So the best bet, find someone who need a different weather then you and form up an ally with them and go do mass farming during differenting weather.

Meyi
01-24-2012, 07:40 AM
I believe Nynja posted on BG that Treasure Hunter might affect the drop rate of Avatarites, but not Geodes. (link (http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106262-Random-Fail-XII-dont-takl-me-small-fish?p=4950905&viewfull=1#post4950905)) Whether he did further research that weighed in or against the favor of TH I don't know.

I personally tried Decorative Weapons as SMN/THF, TH2. Didn't see a difference between TH2 from subjob and TH2+1 from Prowess. Weather was the main driving force behind any drop.

If these aren't affected by TH I think they should be. When it was 15 geodes it was no big deal. 40 after was a punch in the face, but it was doable with enough time or money. However, 55 plus 15 avatarites (if you didn't upgrade as level breaks came out) can be unpleasant to farm.

Other day I tallied up how much gil I'd need to finish the trials I had yet to complete. At the time I was 2/6 level 99 BLM, 4/6 95, and 2/8 +3 SMN, 2/8 +2. Was about 6.2mil. :(

RAIST
01-24-2012, 07:41 AM
The weather is seasonal. So that may be the influence in abyssea now that I think about it...the seasons where they would normally get the corresponding weather, but restricted by day.... who knows.

They should at least tweak the rates in abyssea since there is no weather there, and nothing drops crystals. With fewer items in the pool, it SHOULD have an increased drop rate versus non-abyssea with no weather up....but somehow, it just doesn't feel like it most the time.

Vold
01-24-2012, 07:49 AM
I have to agree. There just isn't enough geode supply to meet the demands of Goldsmiths AND trials anymore. It'd be fine if one or the other wasn't involved. Though some are far more expensive than others which are mega cheap and is the same case for rites.

Kristal
01-24-2012, 08:32 PM
I have to agree. There just isn't enough geode supply to meet the demands of Goldsmiths AND trials anymore. It'd be fine if one or the other wasn't involved. Though some are far more expensive than others which are mega cheap and is the same case for rites.

Goldsmiths need to stop buying geodes then, for the greater good of all players. Or they need to pay MORE, so people are more inclined to sell them and not buy/keep for trials.