View Full Version : New merit suggestion: Samurai Charge
DarkBass
01-19-2012, 07:21 PM
Since its been said that we will be getting a 2nd group of merits of some sorts, an idea I had for one of the new merits would be Samurai's Charge.
Samurai's Charge would work as follows: Grants your current overwhelm bonus to your next weaponskill regardless of where you face your target.
This type of ability was amazing for Thief with bully letting you sneak attack from anywhere. This might be right up our alley for the upcoming additions.
Saiken253
01-20-2012, 03:12 PM
That's... actually not a bad suggestion...
Delvish
01-21-2012, 05:41 AM
That or automatic Zanshin proc on next hit to fit with the multi-hit theme.
Dirtyfinger
01-24-2012, 09:04 AM
Or...
Ditch having to face the mob altogether as I really don't want anymore pre weaponskill job abilities.
Saiken253
01-28-2012, 11:21 AM
Or...
Ditch having to face the mob altogether as I really don't want anymore pre weaponskill job abilities.
Then make it so THFs no longer have to be behind the mob :< The JA he's suggesting could work similar to Bully, but It shouldn't be intimidate(though SAM or DRK should have gotten intimidate). Maybe have severe TP gain reduction(like 1tp/5 hits for the duration or something, idk) and while the mob is affected from it, Overwhelm will proc no matter which side you're attacking on.
Though, this could be fairly OP imo(alliance of SAMs okgo)
Karbuncle
01-28-2012, 02:18 PM
The Reason Overwhelm was given a Face-to-face Limitation is likely because back in the day, Overwhelm + Sneak Attack would have made SAM well, Even more over-powered.
Still, Today, I mean, I wonder if its as broken?
I like this idea though.
DarkBass
01-29-2012, 12:43 AM
The Reason Overwhelm was given a Face-to-face Limitation is likely because back in the day, Overwhelm + Sneak Attack would have made SAM well, Even more over-powered.
Still, Today, I mean, I wonder if its as broken?
I like this idea though.
I can agree with this 100%, but fighting styles have changed with everything so yea i figured this idea isn't too out of the park since it would be once every 5 minutes fully merited.
Ophannus
01-29-2012, 05:56 AM
Overwhelm is so broken already it's +24% WS damage for no reason just for standing in front of the mob I'd kill for that on DRG.
Overwhelm is so broken already it's +24% 19% WS damage for no reason just for standing in front of the mob I'd kill for that on DRG.
ftfy
are wyvern so weak that their breath does less than 19% of your WS dmg?
Saiken253
01-30-2012, 09:07 AM
@ hiko
Yes, yes they are
Transmit
02-06-2012, 06:49 AM
ftfy
are wyvern so weak that their breath does less than 19% of your WS dmg?
Even unresisted they do less than 19% of your WS damage, then go on anything worth a damn (heck not even worth a damn) and you're looking at double digit damage.
Ophannus
02-07-2012, 05:22 PM
unresisted and at full HP and with wyrm armet/glassblowers/lancer's torque, it does about 300ish. But the chances of it going unresisted on anything stronger than Easy Prey is laughably low. Usually on VW, assuming my Wyvern is at full HP(lol) it'll range from 20-110ish.
Cursed
02-10-2012, 11:28 AM
I have an idea for samurai.
How about SE gives it a job trait where no tp will be used during your next ws?
Make it a 10% proc rate.
oh oh oh wait, and another job trait where you will do 5% more dmg for every overwhelm merit you have.
this should be sufficient for now and keep us at bay. Lord knows Samurai doesn't get any attention. SE always beefing up PLDs and DRKS.
DarkBass
02-11-2012, 01:48 AM
I have an idea for samurai.
How about SE gives it a job trait where no tp will be used during your next ws?
Make it a 10% proc rate.
oh oh oh wait, and another job trait where you will do 5% more dmg for every overwhelm merit you have.
this should be sufficient for now and keep us at bay. Lord knows Samurai doesn't get any attention. SE always beefing up PLDs and DRKS.
Yea... you can take your sarcastic QQing back to your "remove this tanking thread because my pld has been rendered useless" post.
Cursed
02-11-2012, 06:26 AM
Yea... you can take your sarcastic QQing back to your "remove this tanking thread because my pld has been rendered useless" post.
I have many other emps, relics and jobs at 99. One of which is sam with masa and some other stuff.
nice quote in your sig. QQ
Cyprias
02-12-2012, 11:21 AM
The Reason Overwhelm was given a Face-to-face Limitation is likely because back in the day, Overwhelm + Sneak Attack would have made SAM well, Even more over-powered.
Still, Today, I mean, I wonder if its as broken?
I like this idea though.
There was a time when Sneak Attack was broken after an update and this was the exact case that happened. Let's just say SAM/THF was the best job combo for it's very limited time period. :D
Fupafighter
02-14-2012, 03:02 AM
Overwhelm isnt so broken lol...Alot of times the monster is turning and not allowing us to overwhelm >.<