View Full Version : Bruiser's Earring at lvl 99
Just capped my h2h and wanted to confirm I understand how damage calculation works (it seems so easy that I'm thinking I'm doing something wrong).
Capped skill including 8 merits = 420
AF3+2 head skill bonus = 5
425 * 0.11 = 46.75 +3 = 49.75
So Bruiser's would add another 3 skill or .33 taking it to 50.08, is that correct?
Dfoley
12-28-2011, 12:56 AM
Correct, it adds an extra tier of dmg.
Brolic
12-28-2011, 01:09 AM
is that still the best damage option though? thought i read that the regain earring and the kick attack neck was the best
Zhronne
12-28-2011, 01:27 AM
Regain is better most likely, but Bruiser seems a good option, no?
Att+3, Acc~2.5, damage+1.
Looks ok, better than Aesir Ear Pendant I'd say?
It's kinda meh if you use Faith Torque instead of something else though, since Faith will bring you up a tier, and at that point Bruiser won't be enough for yet another.
For neck, when looking at pure damage output and nothing else, I think Rancor is still better even outside Abyssea.
If you're scared for damage taken/gearswaps, tonberry hate or just don't want to bother with that, then probably Faith is better than Cirque, as long as it adds another tier.
Anybody mathed it out? Too lazy to do it atm, but I think I got it more or less right.
Brolic
12-28-2011, 01:36 AM
i believe regain earring\calcitrant stole is still the best combo outside of rancor\regain, i may be wrong though
Zhronne
12-28-2011, 01:57 AM
Uhm, you're taking accuracy out completely as it didn't matter. Which is probably true when you're fighting low level stuff because of level correction, but on T+ things accuracy is gonna matter.
Faith adds +1d, +7att and roughly 6,5acc, doubt it's gonna be behind calcitrant
I'm not considering other buffs of course, just gear.
But yeah, Rancor is most likely ahead of any othe option.
Theytak
12-28-2011, 02:57 PM
Calcitrant stole is complete garbage unless you're using savateur's gaiters, since you know, pup doesn't get kick attacks naturally, and even then with only 3% ka, increasing kick damage is going to be very minuscule increase to your over all damage
Rancor Collar + Regain Moonshade wins for pure damage, in and out of abyssea
Faith+Regain Moonshade will win for high haste if you can't afford the +DT of rancor collar (such as in AoE heavy fights)
If you don't have either, Cirque Necklace + Bruiser's is probably the next best way to go, but bruisers loses a lot of it's luster if you've got faith torque, which is fairly even with cirque neck at low haste, and takes a decent lead at high haste.
Zhronne
12-28-2011, 05:33 PM
I approve Theytak's post! :p
Concerned4FFxi
12-31-2011, 06:34 PM
If you have faith but are using the wotg earring for something else (refresh, in my case) what would be the best two earring slots then for tp? brutal and... bruiser's or something else perhaps instead of bruiser's?
Theytak
01-01-2012, 09:18 AM
If you have faith but are using the wotg earring for something else (refresh, in my case) what would be the best two earring slots then for tp? brutal and... bruiser's or something else perhaps instead of bruiser's?
Aesir pendant (atk+7 conserve TP+3)
Kemas earring (str+2 vit+2 acc+4)
Bruiser's earring (atk+2 acc+2~3 subtle blow-10) (if bruiser's wont up you a damage tier)
Aesir probably wins most of the time given our generally low level of atk, followed by kemas and then bruiser's, but the difference between any of the three is fairly negligible so I'm not going to bother mathing it out. The gap between regain moonshade/brutal and any other earring combo is pretty massive, lol. I use kemas, because I don't have moonshade (only about 1/3~1/2 done with WotG), and I cba to get aesir. Kemas beats Aesir for ws that aren't shijin spiral, anyway, because of the str/vit mods that all other high level h2h ws have (ie: howling fist, dragon kick, tornado kick, asuran fists, stringing pummel, and ascetic's fury are all str/vit, final heaven is vit, and and victory smite is str. Yes, I know pup doesn't get AF/AF, and Heofon knuckles are lawl, but that's beside the point. Shijin Spiral is the weird outlier).
Concerned4FFxi
01-01-2012, 10:41 AM
thank you, i was considering etheral to conserve space, but i have kemas also and will use that to ws in and etheral to tp in. I have to make mild adjustments since im gearing all 20 jobs and i have a moghouse full of furniture that i refuse to abandon, lol. I could get the odin earring but again its a matter of storage space.
SE, if you like to add a second storage space to our moghouses, or pehaps a "mogvault", that is put in the mogsafe and can be displayed as furniture but also grants a new inventory space of 80 in your home nation called "mogvault", i'd be thrilled.
Heck, the mogvault could come in different colors and be a craftable item, would go well with the proposed throne of bones or the sandorian royal throne from the furniture thread.
Calcitrant stole is complete garbage unless you're using savateur's gaiters, since you know, pup doesn't get kick attacks naturally, and even then with only 3% ka, increasing kick damage is going to be very minuscule increase to your over all damage
Completely correct for PUP, but I will note that Calcitrant is excellent for MNK (which has native KA, KA merits, and gear to enhance kicks like AF3+2 legs/feet and set bonus). Rancor beats it from a pure damage perspective, but the downsides for a tanking MNK might make Calcitrant more appealing.
The reason I bring it up here is that a lot of the time the discussion you'll see about Bruiser's Earring is directed more at MNKs, so it doesn't really apply cleanly to PUP due to different skill plus these other gear considerations that are more applicable to a MNK. H2H skill in particular is often tied to discussions of both neck and ear slots, since Bruiser's and Faith Torque both affect the total skill (as do Cirque head and Tantra hands).
Brolic
01-17-2012, 11:53 PM
Calcitrant stole is complete garbage unless you're using savateur's gaiters, since you know, pup doesn't get kick attacks naturally, and even then with only 3% ka, increasing kick damage is going to be very minuscule increase to your over all damage
Rancor Collar + Regain Moonshade wins for pure damage, in and out of abyssea
Faith+Regain Moonshade will win for high haste if you can't afford the +DT of rancor collar (such as in AoE heavy fights)
If you don't have either, Cirque Necklace + Bruiser's is probably the next best way to go, but bruisers loses a lot of it's luster if you've got faith torque, which is fairly even with cirque neck at low haste, and takes a decent lead at high haste.
haha i didn't even notice this was the pup forums