Post your BLU builds

[Genralzod]

As a BLU enthusiast, I've been very impressed by all the changes so far to my favorite job and it was a bit overwhelming to figure out how to build the job at 90, since I spent so long at 75 and accustomed to those spells/traits/sc's.

So I spent some time & made an all around functional spell/trait/merit Build for BLU90.
This is NOT an end-all/be-all BLU90 build, but more a guide to aim for when your still leveling/farming. This build I use primarily and gives me a solid base for 'walking around' power. (of course this build may become obsolete by the time BLU99 comes around)

So I say add to this forum with your Builds and their function.

(I'm no elitist, & I'm all for the unorthodox methods [so long as they work] as well as the tried & true, so post away :)

Zod's All Purpose BLU90 Build (regardless of subjobs)

Merits:
Sword 8/8
Magic 8/8
Group1:
Physical Potency 5/5
Magical Accuracy 5/5
Group2:
Convergance 1/1
Diffusion 1/1
Enchainment 3/3 (Total +30% TP added to chain affinity)
Assimilation 5/5 (total +5 setpoints)

Spells: (Traits: Auto-Refresh, Double Attack, Dual Wield, Zanshin, & Skillchain Bonus)
Cost= 48/55 setpoints leaving room for situational spells/traits
Head Butt
Actinic Burst (Flash'ga)
Acrid Stream (Water AoE fan & M.DEF -10%)
Plenilune Embrace (Cure 4.5)
Animating Wail (Haste +15%, 5mins)
Battery Charge (MP+ 3/tic, 5mins)
Regeneration (HP+ 10/tic, 90sec)
Final Sting (suicide dont use, trait only)
Goblin Rush (3x blunt attack)
Whirl of Rage (circle AoE slashing dmg & stun'ga)
Benthic Typhoon (Fan AoE piercing dmg & DEF -10% M.DEF -10%)
Quad. Continuum (THE Big Gun. 4x Piercing Attack)
Empty Thrash (Conal AoE Slashing attack. cheap MP good DD)
Winds Of Promy (erase'ra, removes any party debuff not covered by a Spell'na)
Delta Thrust (3x Slashing Attack & TP-10/tic MP-6/tic Plague effect)
[DO NOT USE DELTA THRUST DURING LEARNING BLUE MAGIC)

Chain Affinity/Efflux (macro 2-4 of these depending on your style)

Savage Blade>Quad Continuum=Distortion (total dmg avg 6k-15k+)
Savage Blade>Goblin Rush=Light (the new Bones killer)
Expiacion>Benthic Typhoon=Darkness (very fun especially when you can line up mobs for the AoE)
Expiacion>Delta Thrust=Liquifaction (not too strong, but the added plague is nice)

[Djinnrb]

Pretty nice setup you got there... My blu is only lvl 16 atm. I just started a new account. I did have a 75 BLU. Now I have to go learn all these spells again.

[Genralzod]

if your on Fenrir look me up I always help BLUs farm spells since so many helped me on the way up.

[Djinnrb]

dang... im on bismarck

[Macrom]

Very nice set up indeed, i have still been working on my melee build as i am the guy in our LS that is the TE spammer i have more of a MaB build and it seems to work well.

Spells i always have set are:
Memento Mori
Fantod
Occulation
Battery Charge
Animated Wail
Dream Flower
Charged Whisker
Thermal Pulse
Quad. Continuum
and a few random spells for Attribute buffs and Job traits (mainly Dual wield and MaB)

Now Keep in mind i am normally BLU/RDM and have my gear build for MaB (AF3 +2 hands, feet, Morrigans body, Hecates blah blah. Emphatikos Rope is a great addition and saved my life many times (DEF: 5 MP +20, Spell interruption rate down 12%, Enhances "Aquaveil" effect) usually have 30-40 mobs beating on me at one time so that extra bit helps.

If you have a blm friend it helps alot also for pulling.

I duo alot with a BLM, while the BLM is out pulling spam Fantod as much as you can, when you see him coming in use Memento Mori > Burst Affinity > Charged Whisker (usually around 4k -4.5k dmg) then follow it up with Thermal Pulse and watch the massive amount of chests.

Blu is amazing if you learn the tricks to it, good hunting!!!

[Genralzod]

I duo alot with a BLM, while the BLM is out pulling spam Fantod as much as you can, when you see him coming in use Memento Mori > Burst Affinity > Charged Whisker (usually around 4k -4.5k dmg) then follow it up with Thermal Pulse and watch the massive amount of chests.

That sounds interesting, I wonder what zone/mobs/atmas youre using? also couldnt triumphant roar > Efflux > Chain Affinity > Whirl of Rage work? along with other AoE's

[Alistaire]

Physical Potency merits are misleading, a while back SE confirmed each point adds 2 physical accuracy to physical spells. And 10 acc is less noticeable @ 90 than 75 and a whole lot less needed. I suggested a while back on BG it'd be better to max out Chain Affinity recast instead these days, to put it at a recast of just over half Efflux recast, to better use the 2 together when Efflux is up, and got a pretty good consensus that's the way to go.

[Venat]

lv90 blu

Equip

Head Mavi head+1
Body Mavi body+2/Morrgain Robe/Magus Jubba+1
Hands Morrgain hands/mavi hands+1
Legs Mavi legs+1/Enkidu legs/Aurum legs
Feet Denali Feet/Mavi feet+1
Neck Mavi neck/Fort Toque
Ear1 Suppa Earring
Ear2 Burtal Earring
Ring1 Epona's ring/Flame Ring aug+chr+2
Ring2 Raja's ring
Back Twilight belt/Warwolf belt aug+atk+5
Waist Atheling mantle/Boxer's mantle
Ammo Mavi stone
Sword1 lv90 Shimashir Str/atk+ sword ////(Almace in the works 15%)
Sword2 Khanla+1 double atk+10%//// (Tizona on hold 10%)

This is pretty much my basic overall gear for my BLU. I do have alot of other good pieces are equipment which arent added.

[Alistaire]

Oh, and looking at your build, a couple of notes:

Magic Fruit is generally better mp per hp cured, 1 less set point, and a lot less recast. With a good MND build it's definitely better overall.

Vorpal Blade > Delta Thrust also makes Liquefaction, and vorpal should outdo Expiacion. The other good thing about this SC is generally on an Easy Prey mob you'll still kill it with this SC and save yourself 50-70 MP in doing so.

Triumphant Roar only adds to your attack rating, which has no effect on blue spells.

As for BLU/RDM, I fully agree. Best mobs are ones that either agro or link that you can gather quickly. Frogs in La Theine/Misareaux, crabs in Misareaux, puks in Altep are my favorites. Charged Whisker > Whirl of Rage > Dream Flower with Atmas: of the Lion, MM, and Ultimate will work best for this. And aquaveil is very important.

I'd also move Winds of Promy to situational status. Plasma Charge, while not being useful to cast, is +3 STR/DEX, and if you're not fighting mobs with things to erase your only benefit from Winds are the stat boosts.

Though to Macrom, I don't normally set Battery Charge /RDM, the small boost vs refresh isn't really needed a lot of the time. 50 MP cost vs 80 for the same duration of refresh, so 30MP every 5 minutes gained. Definitely a no-brainer in Abyssea, depends how your MP goes outside.

[Macrom]

That sounds interesting, I wonder what zone/mobs/atmas youre using? also couldnt triumphant roar > Efflux > Chain Affinity > Whirl of Rage work? along with other AoE's

Honestly i have not come across a mob in abyssea that this doesnt work on, if its altepa i usually start at the Mandies near VC 6 then if we need pop items from any mob ill go to whatever mob and do the same. if a mob resist's a spell Whirl of rage will usually finish off what is left or just Dream Flower and finish off however you feel.

when doing this i use Atma of Beyond, Minikin, Apoc if im lazy and dont want to use RR item..... or any other MaB atma.

Also when in abyssea use the Ascetic temp items it helps if you after super quick kills and more than likely one of your chests that drops will give you more temp items. Im always testing different spells, gear and whatnot, so if any ideas plz add your thoughts.

[Genralzod]

boosts to attack rating do affect Blue physical spells, souleater, last resort, boost, plenilune embrace, fantod, warcry, berserk etc, even SATA. This is why Fantod is consumed after casting, and since Triumphant Roar is a stackable seperate attack boost, there's no reason to suggest it wont boost the physical spells. Unless there's a math wiz out there that can show me some testing. in my opinion ATK has a role in Physical spells, just like M.ATK has a role in the magical spells.
(side note: wierd how physical spells behave as physical attacks in every way except they proc Azure Lights?)

[Kwate]

I duo alot with a BLM, while the BLM is out pulling spam Fantod as much as you can, when you see him coming in use Memento Mori > Burst Affinity > Charged Whisker (usually around 4k -4.5k dmg) then follow it up with Thermal Pulse and watch the massive amount of chests.

Blu is amazing if you learn the tricks to it, good hunting!!!

Fantod is broken, as the next BLU spell no matter enhancing or enemy targeted will consume its effect :(

[Kwate]

SE really needs to fix that.

[Alistaire]

boosts to attack rating do affect Blue physical spells, souleater, last resort, boost, plenilune embrace, fantod, warcry, berserk etc, even SATA. This is why Fantod is consumed after casting, and since Triumphant Roar is a stackable seperate attack boost, there's no reason to suggest it wont boost the physical spells. Unless there's a math wiz out there that can show me some testing. in my opinion ATK has a role in Physical spells, just like M.ATK has a role in the magical spells.
(side note: wierd how physical spells behave as physical attacks in every way except they proc Azure Lights?)

I'd have to look it up but there's clear testing from back when BLU first came out that it doesn't. Easiest test is to go BLU/WAR and cast spells with Defender then with Berserk. And of course there's the bonus there that if you do anything BLU/WAR you can ride defender and it won't affect your spell damage.

Granted a few things in your list aren't an attack boost: Souleater isn't, it's a seperate factor that adds 5% of your HP to the damage regardless of attack/defense (subbed that is), Plenilune/Fantod give a MAB boost too which does work on magical spells. Sneak Attack is also not an attack boost. Trick Attack does nothing to damage with THF sub in any case.

And sure, they could have made physical spells proc pearl, or ruby even since they're more comparable to weapon skills than regular melee hits. Very glad they made it azure.

[Alistaire]

Atma of Beyond, Minikin, Apoc if im lazy and dont want to use RR item..... or any other MaB atma.

You should look into Atma of the Lion. Beyond is only 30 MAB for non ice/light spells, Lion is 40 MAB for thunder spells, -10% pdt for getting beat on and 10% triple attack for pearl light building.

[RaenRyong]

Lion/BlindingHorn/Ultimate for aoe burn is what I use.

Pull or have mobs pulled to you => CA Efflux Whirl of Rage => Dream Flower => heal yourself => Amplification/Sound Blast/Enervation => BA Charged Whisker for about 5.6k damage without Ascetic's. Combined with the earlier Whirl damage, not much survives!

For general BLU stuff I tend to use

Cocoon
Head Butt
Blank Gaze or Geist Wall
Frightful Roar often if NMs
Magic Fruit often
Disseverment
Actinic Burst
Exuviation
Plenilune Embrace
Cimicine Discharge
Animating Wail
Battery Charge
Goblin Rush
Vanity Dive
Quadratic Continuum
Dream Flower
Delta Thrust
Winds of Promyvion

with a few other situational spells thrown in here and there. Likely to make a more melee-trait orientated one when servers come back up.

[Kwate]

Lion/BlindingHorn/Ultimate for aoe burn is what I use.

Pull or have mobs pulled to you => CA Efflux Whirl of Rage => Dream Flower => heal yourself => Amplification/Sound Blast/Enervation => BA Charged Whisker for about 5.6k damage without Ascetic's. Combined with the earlier Whirl damage, not much survives!

For general BLU stuff I tend to use

Cocoon
Head Butt
Blank Gaze or Geist Wall
Frightful Roar often if NMs
Magic Fruit often
Disseverment
Actinic Burst
Exuviation
Plenilune Embrace
Cimicine Discharge
Animating Wail
Battery Charge
Goblin Rush
Vanity Dive
Quadratic Continuum
Dream Flower
Delta Thrust
Winds of Promyvion

with a few other situational spells thrown in here and there. Likely to make a more melee-trait orientated one when servers come back up.

Just curious, why both?

[Kwate]

My general set:

WoP (Auto-refresh)
Actinic Burst (Auto-refresh)
Animating Wail
Cocoon
Occulation
Zephyr Mantle
Blank Gaze
Battery Charge
Dreamflower (M. Attack)
Soundblast (M. Attack)
Acrid Stream (DA Trait)
Regeneration
Magic Fruit
Empty Thrash (DA Trait)
Head Butt
Delta Thrust (DW)
Benthic Typhoon
Quad Cut (DW)
Whirl of Rage

-I keep M. Attack their for Sanguine Blades (also via SB build set), i average ~800+ saved my ass several times and conserves mp.

[RaenRyong]

Just curious, why both?

Err, wups; was actually a typo. Used Exuviation a bit in the past and I was just going through a spell list and taking out which I used often in order; guess I brainfarted there and listed one I used to use.

[Harmless]

We all know that BLU's versatility is obscene but I thought I'd post a couple of my most used spell sets. I'm only adding my current TP gear set since posting every different spell swap ect... would take ages.

My current TP set is:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205174

Generally for spells I set:

BLU/WAR (Double Attack Trait Not Required)
Actinic Burst (4) - AOE Flash & Auto Refresh
Goblin Rush (3) - Skillchain Bonus
Animating Wail (5) - Haste & Dual Wield
Quad. Cont. (4) - DMG & Dual Wield
Delta Thrust (2) - Low Mp Dmg, Plague & Dual Wield
Blazing Bound (3) - Dual Wield
Battery Charge (3) - Refresh
Winds Of Promy (5) - Aoe Erase & Auto Refresh
Occultation (3) - Blink
Head Butt (3) - Stun
Auroral Drape (4) - Aoe Silence & Blind & Fast Cast
Benthic Typhoon (4) - Darkness Closer with CDC & Completes Skillchain Bonus Trait
Cimicine Discharge (3) - Slow
Plenilune Embrace (4) - Cure & Attack Up
Sub-Zero Smash (4) - Paralyze & Completes Fast Cast Trait

Some of the enfeebling type spells are taken out depending on party/solo and replaced with spells like:
Triumphant Roar (3) - Attack Boost (For CDC)
Fantod (1) - Attack Boost
ect...

BLU/NIN (Replace Dual Wield Spells with Double Attack)

BLU/THF (May require only setting 1 Tier of Dual Wield if Double Attack is to be set as well)
Vanity Dive (2) - SATA/CA/Efflux DMG

BLU/RDM
Charged Whisker (4) - AOE Nuke
Occultation (3) - Blink
Dream Flower (3) - Sleepga & MAB Trait
Thermal Pulse (3) - AOE Nuke
Fantod (1) - Magic Boost
Battery Charge (3) - Refresh
Animating Wail (5) - Haste
Leafstorm (4) - AOE Nuke
Acrid Stream (3) - Conal Nuke & MDB Down
Plenilune Embrace (4) - Cure & Magic Attack Boost
Actinic Burst (4) - AOE Flash & Auto Refresh
Amplification (3) - MAB (If Memento Mori is on recast)
Enervation (5) - AOE MDB Down
Memento Mori (4) - MAB and MAB Trait
Sheep Song (2) - Sleepga
Cocoon (1) - Defense Boost
Whirl Of Rage (2) - AOE Physical Dmg (Macro in a sword if staves are equipped from nuking)

These are my 3 most used setups. I didn't add a full /THF set because I generally use a hybrid of /WAR & /NIN spells. I have been experimenting with BLU/MNK lately (the last week before servers were shutdown) and may edit this post with my conclusions from that at a later date. Feel free to comment and discuss ^^

[Kykusho]

Hey fellow blus
Am kinda lost as to what to use merits on.
I have the main ones capped.
Sword
Blue Magic
Physical Potency
Enchainment
Diffusion 1/1 (I got just to have another JA i don't use it that much)
Assimilation
Cirt Hit (Also from my other DD jobs)
I have all those capped but, i get lost as to what to spend the other 20 merits i get when am bored and join a Aby pt.
Any advice?

[Harmless]

Hey fellow blus
Am kinda lost as to what to use merits on.
I have the main ones capped.
Sword
Blue Magic
Physical Potency
Enchainment
Diffusion 1/1 (I got just to have another JA i don't use it that much)
Assimilation
Cirt Hit (Also from my other DD jobs)
I have all those capped but, i get lost as to what to spend the other 20 merits i get when am bored and join a Aby pt.
Any advice?

I guess it all comes down to how you prefer to play the job, as for my merits they look something like this:

Sword: 8/8
Blue Magic: 8/8
Physical Potency: 5/5
Magic Accuracy: 5/5
Convergence: 5/5
Assimilation: 5/5
Crit Rate: 4/4
Spell Interrupt Rate: 4/4

I at one point had Diffusion unlocked but decided to change it due to short duration of many enhancing BLU spells as well as me being a selfish bastard =P The great part about abyssea is that you change your merits on a whim as man people are sitting around with everyhting capped and 20 merits in the bank. I think many people overlook Magic Accuracy in Group 1 because they automatically think it's only nuke related but I enjoy the reassurance that the stun from head butt will proc or the slow from Cimicine Discharge.

[Kwate]

Evasion 4/4
STR 5/5
MP 8/8
Sword: 8/8
Blue Magic: 8/8
Physical Potency: 5/5
CA recast 5/5
Convergence: 1/5
Assimilation: 5/5
Crit Rate: 4/4
Spell Interrupt Rate: 4/4
Diffusion 1/5
Enchainment 3/5

I initially didn't have CA recast, but man that 20 seconds saved is a godsend, seems like CA is always back up when I really need it. Also had emnity capped, since I tank alot, however decided to move the points elsewhere since I seem to yank hate anyways.

[s_white62]

with levels up to 99 and merits have increase also.
what is
HP/MP?
Attributes?
Combat Skills
Sword=8
Magic Skills
Blue Magic Skill=8

[Tashan]

I have:

MP = 8/8
Sword = Max
Club = Max
Dagger = 7
Evasion = Max
Parry = Max
Blue Magic Skill = Max
Healing Magic Skill = Max

[s_white62]

In attributes merits I have
STR 0
DEX 8
VIT 0
AGI 0
INT 0
MND 0
CHR 0

any suggestion on this?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Maxed Str, useful for pretty much every job that melees.

[Alistaire]

STR and blue magic skill are also the only things that boost your attack rating on physical spells. (and defense down effects on your target)

[s_white62]

what's everyone favorite traits that they have set from solo to farming to bringing down NM?

please I need your assistant

[Zadimortis]

what's everyone favorite traits that they have set from solo to farming to bringing down NM?

The Guide To Blue Maging That Everyone Ever Should Be Using And Will Answer All Of Your Questions. (http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/30626/the-beast-within-a-guide-to-blue-mage)

Read it, love it, live by it.

[Babekeke]

The Guide To Blue Maging That Everyone Ever Should Be Using And Will Answer All Of Your Questions. (http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/30626/the-beast-within-a-guide-to-blue-mage)

Read it, love it, live by it.

Assuming I'm ever allowed to play another job once I finish Daurdabla (or just go solo) I'm going to finish BLU off, try and decide for myself what are the best combinations of traits/spells, and then read the guide and see how close I got :) (and likely change accordingly).

Sometimes, learning is the fun part.

[Zadimortis]

To each his or her own. It also functions as a nice encyclopedia for spell info, job trait combinations, and subjobs/party roles, if you don't want to follow its instructions for various events and spell setups verbatim.

[Babekeke]

To each his or her own. It also functions as a nice encyclopedia for spell info, job trait combinations, and subjobs/party roles, if you don't want to follow its instructions for various events and spell setups verbatim.

There is, of course, a difference between someone who leeched the job to 99 and needs to read a guide on how to play the job, and someone who has pretty much solo'd exp while farming (all of, not just the ones required for procs/JTs) the spells, looking up job traits as new spells become available, playing around to see which spells work best with which WS for a self-SC and trying for the best combination of JTs and spells for the blue magic points and spell slots available.

Then doing it all again when you level up.

It's all very well looking up bits of information here and there to see where you're going wrong, what is everyone else doing, but if everyone wore the same gear, set the same spells and had the same merits... then what's the point in choice?

Then again, some people are designed to follow orders, and others are designed to be leaders. I see you linked to a 'guide', yet you see it as 'instructions'.

[Zadimortis]

Just tryin' to help. Don't know where all this berating is coming from. Use it or not.

[Xilk]

The guide on FFXIAH by Prothescar is a exellent guide for new, returning and experienced players alike.

It does not cover EVERYTHING, but almost.

Any inventive player will take ideas and synthesize them to their own liking.

Reading the guide motivated me to play blue mage more (its my 2nd job up) and update my gear and sets, which I haven't really done much with since level 90.

[saevel]

Assuming I'm ever allowed to play another job once I finish Daurdabla (or just go solo) I'm going to finish BLU off, try and decide for myself what are the best combinations of traits/spells, and then read the guide and see how close I got :) (and likely change accordingly).

Sometimes, learning is the fun part.

I'd be slightly careful, Proth is a good offensive BLU but absolutely hates the idea of a BLU casting a support spell.. ever. If all I expected from a BLU was offensive power then I wouldn't be using BLU and instead would of brought a WAR / SAM / DRK / MNK / ect. BLU's real strength is that it has high offensive power and utility / support in a single package. They can go /WAR for bergressor and DA while still having aoe erase, cheap heals, stuns and sleeps. Requiescat and Sang blade while being weaker then CDC both are powerful vs things that other melee's would be crippled on (PDT).

Great guide for how to build a melee set, severely lacks the support side (he never once mentioned healing).

[Prothscar]

YOu need to read it a little better chap, there's an entire section about healing.

I've even included a cure potency set and support spells in every spell set there. Not sure what you're on about

[saevel]

YOu need to read it a little better chap, there's an entire section about healing.

I've even included a cure potency set and support spells in every spell set there. Not sure what you're on about

Bulvine Scatology.

You've since added those sections. When I read your "guide" it was DD and DD onry. This is reflected in section VII which doesn't include the healing aspect at all yet the previous sections have since been amended.

[Prothscar]

I've done nothing of the sort. The only things I've changed or added to the guide were errors and updates to gearsets, the merit section, the job abilities section, and breaths in the calculation section. I haven't edited it in a few weeks now, and I actually have to edit the PDT set at some point. There are even suggestions on editing the cure potency set as early as page two.

You need to try harder to defame me, and I have to remind you that not everyone is so genuinely stupid that they'll believe your nonsense.

[saevel]

I've done nothing of the sort. The only things I've changed or added to the guide were errors and updates to gearsets, the merit section, the job abilities section, and breaths in the calculation section. I haven't edited it in a few weeks now, and I actually have to edit the PDT set at some point. There are even suggestions on editing the cure potency set as early as page two.

You need to try harder to defame me, and I have to remind you that not everyone is so genuinely stupid that they'll believe your nonsense.

You can toss insults as much as you want, it won't change anything. It's pretty well known that you believe a BLU should never cast cure or any form of support and only exists for dealing damage, supporting itself and the occasional tanking scenario. Your guide is pretty straight forward on this issue.

[Prothscar]

That's well known? Really? Because you're the first person to ever base these accusations. Not sure why you constantly feel the need to stir the shit pot, but it gets old real fast.

Few points:

A) I don't see any direct or indirect insults in there, unless you're referring to the people who can't read being stupid, which would be accurate in a by-the-dictionary definition.

B) I don't see the section in my guide that specifies not casting a Diffused Haste or some such at some point during a lowman fight, or curing someone in low HP in an emergency. However, I also don't go out of my way to tell people to waste their MP and time casting spells that other people should be doing, as it's their job, in events with more than 3~4 people, or when the extra cures are necessary.

C) Have I mentioned how hilarious it is that you think I'd bother editing my guide and putting in extraneous sections just to appease you or attempt to prove you wrong?

[saevel]

B) I don't see the section in my guide that specifies not casting a Diffused Haste or some such at some point during a lowman fight, or curing someone in low HP in an emergency. However, I also don't go out of my way to tell people to waste their MP and time casting spells that other people should be doing, as it's their job, in events with more than 3~4 people, or when the extra cures are necessary.

Pretty much proves exactly what I said. If I wanted pure damage I wouldn't be bringing a BLU and instead would bring one of the more specialized jobs. Thus if a BLU is in a group their there for a combination of damage and support, refusing to do support functions just goes to show your really just playing a gimp sword wielding WAR.

Funny thing is I didn't insult you guide one bit, it's an excellent piece of work and should anyone ever have questions on how to most effectively inflict grievous damage onto something I would gladly point them in your direction. My only qualm is that you were arrogant enough to claim it as the "definitive" guide yet as you've so proudly demonstrated you disagree with everything remotely related to the support functions of BLU. This means any guide you write would be missing those aspects and thus not be definitive.

Now should you swallow your pride and actually write in healing and support sections under roles and how to best utilize those abilities, well It would be a start.

Seriously though ... how can you dismiss a 36mp erasega on a low recast timer. That alone gives BLU's immense potential. Toss on Fruit / W.Wind with a corresponding cure sub / gear set and it's pretty impressive the amount of damage AND healing / support that can be put out.

[Prothscar]

That's where you're wrong, you did insult both my guide and myself by insinuating that I'm ignoring or speaking out against playing the job properly. YOu then go on to sya that I added in parts and sections of it after you "call me out"? Really? Do you think that highly of yourself? You're the last person I'd ever consider doing anything for, let alone changing my guide to make it look like I was right in your eyes/after you've said something about me.

That guide's been fundamentally the same since day one, and the sections and bits and pieces of it have all been in place since its inception save the parts I mentioned earlier. If you think otherwise, you can go ahead and... well, I don't want this post deleted, so use your imagination, you're already doing that plenty already.

Putting words into my mouth, attempting to steer people away from my guide because "HE SEZ NOT TO UZE HEALZ END CURE" and shit? Belitting my work and attempting to say that it isn't complete? That's fucked up.

Why did you do it? Beats me. You didn't have any provocation, just did it.

[Babekeke]

Why did you do it? Beats me. You didn't have any provocation, just did it.

There've been no posts in the DRK section for a couple of days now, so he went looking for active posts to troll.

[Xilk]

Prothscar: 3
Saevel: 0

[Scuro]

Pretty much proves exactly what I said. If I wanted pure damage I wouldn't be bringing a BLU and instead would bring one of the more specialized jobs. Thus if a BLU is in a group their there for a combination of damage and support, refusing to do support functions just goes to show your really just playing a gimp sword wielding WAR.

Funny thing is I didn't insult you guide one bit, it's an excellent piece of work and should anyone ever have questions on how to most effectively inflict grievous damage onto something I would gladly point them in your direction. My only qualm is that you were arrogant enough to claim it as the "definitive" guide yet as you've so proudly demonstrated you disagree with everything remotely related to the support functions of BLU. This means any guide you write would be missing those aspects and thus not be definitive.

Now should you swallow your pride and actually write in healing and support sections under roles and how to best utilize those abilities, well It would be a start.

Seriously though ... how can you dismiss a 36mp erasega on a low recast timer. That alone gives BLU's immense potential. Toss on Fruit / W.Wind with a corresponding cure sub / gear set and it's pretty impressive the amount of damage AND healing / support that can be put out.

I don't always back Prothscar, but when I do, its because he's f*cking right and a RDM thinks he knows something about BLU.

What Prothscar is getting at is yes a BLU should be ready to fill the role that is needed meaning if a dude is bleeding out his face, you don't just let him die, you throw a Moon Hug at him (WTF is dis shit about fruits? This isn't 2009 anymore bro) but a DD BLU isn't going to gimp his over all DPS just because people think he needs to main cure or even sub cure on BLU. The job is meant to facilitate other roles in a pinch depending on your set up, While I don't condone it and often look down upon it, there are those main Cure BLU's, Nuking BLU's, and those that try to make a Hybrid of Nuking and Physical, but as a physical BLU, I can tell you right now, I'm not going to go blow my limited MP on doing someone else's job. Which I'm assuming is what Prothscar is getting at, if your a BLU and you got a WHM, your going to let him cure and not waste your MP because I can't stress enough, it is limited in comparison to other mage jobs. If you want to be an affective DD, you don't do every role, you focus your role to what you chose to do. Being a little bit of everything makes you worthless because there is always a class that will do it better, AKA RDM's Dilemma.

What I believe Prothscar is trying to say, is that if you have other jobs that have a certain role, and the mobs act in a certain way, chances are, you used that thing called party chat, and discuss whats on the up and up so your not having spells that are really going to be just over all worthless to the party and waste your spells slots. The over all goal of what he is trying to say is how to conduct the most efficient BLU more so than the fix-it-all BLU that some people might think the job is. You can ask Prothscar we bump heads on a lot of shit, but there is also quiet alot I agree with the man, and I'll be first to say this is one top notch BLU so if your going to sht the f**k up sit down and listen to anyone I would say this is one dude to do so. Because it sounds like you need alot to listen to if those are your thoughts on BLU Saevel.

-Scuro, Out!

[Osmond]

The general spells I use for blu is:

Sudden Lunge
Delta Thrust
Benthic Typhoon
Actinic Burst
Winds of Promy.
Magic Barrier
Animating Wail
Acrid Stream
Demoralizing Roar
Empty Thrash
Quadrastrike
Heavy Strike
(Auto-Refresh/Triple Att./SC bonus)
......the rest is just random spells after that.

Merits:
MP 15/15
Blue Magic 8/8
STR 12/12
Crit. Rate 5/5
Phy. Potency 5/5
Magic Acc. 5/5
Assimilation 5/5
Diffusion 5/5

Im still playing on the builds.

[Babekeke]

I've been messing around with various spells, trying to get the max +STR as possible.

Then I took out some of the ones that either gave less STR, or added nothing useful in the way of traits or spells that might be used and added a couple to make traits. Then I realised I didn't have haste or refresh set, so removed a couple more to set them. I've mainly been using BLU for low-man or soloing, so some spells are situational... can remove sleep and dispel when doing group events, for eg.

Here's what I came up with:

Auto-Refresh:
Plasma Charge
Actinic Burst

Conserve MP:
Firespit STR +3
Zephyr Mantle (added for trait and usefulness)

Zanshin:
Final Sting (added for trait)
Whirl of Rage STR +2

Double Attack:
Heavy Strike STR +2
Empty Thrash STR +3

Skillchain Bonus:
Quadrastrike STR +3
Benthic Typhoon STR +2
Goblin Rush (added just for Light SC)

Store TP:
Fantod (added for trait and possible usefulness)
Sudden Lunge (added for stun)

No traits:
Plenuline Embrace STR +2
Triumphant Roar STR +3
Animating Wail
Battery Charge
Pinecomb Bomb STR +1 (added mainly for sleep, but just read that it's based on R. Acc... time to skill throwing!)
Blank Gaze (added for dispel)

[saevel]

You're missing some pretty big Job Traits, namely Dual Wield III and Triple Attack. Those two alone will outweigh any boost from additional STR you get. DW also gives you animated wail which is your +15% 5m haste. For your Auto-Refresh it's a choice between PC and WoP. PC has better +stats but WoP is a cheap erase-ga, not only removes the detrimental status effect (Slow / Bind / def-down / attack-down / gravity / ect..) but also anyone near you.

It's also my understanding that Zanshin doesn't work if your dual wielding, so kinda a useless job trait for BLU.

[Cabalabob]

I don't get where this Zanshin doesn't work when dual wielding came from, I've never seen this info anywhere. I've seen that it doesn't work on a double attack but double attack is not dual wield.

[Babekeke]

You're missing some pretty big Job Traits, namely Dual Wield III and Triple Attack. Those two alone will outweigh any boost from additional STR you get. DW also gives you animated wail which is your +15% 5m haste. For your Auto-Refresh it's a choice between PC and WoP. PC has better +stats but WoP is a cheap erase-ga, not only removes the detrimental status effect (Slow / Bind / def-down / attack-down / gravity / ect..) but also anyone near you.

It's also my understanding that Zanshin doesn't work if your dual wielding, so kinda a useless job trait for BLU.

You maybe confusing zanshin with hasso/seigan. They only work for 2H weapons. There is unconfirmed info on wiki that it doesn't work for H2H, but no mention of dual wielding. It's easy enough to test though, I just need something with high eva to test it on.

As for the missing traits, it really depends what sub I'm using. DW3 and triple attack are particularly useful if you're /war in a group situation and just going for all-out DD. For solo/low-man I usually /dnc, so I have DW 2 already, and there's not a massive jump between 7% DA and 5% TA (especially if Zanshin does work with DW). This spell set is based upon /DNC.

I was mainly just playing about with different set to see what was achievable with JTs while trying to get as much STR as possible. This gives +22 STR.

[Prothscar]

It isn't unconfirmed, people just don't know how to source properly. Effectively H2H and DW function in the same manner as well, so even if the test was done for just one of them it would be within reasonable levels of confidence that it's true for both.

[Babekeke]

Well, I'll test it anyway. I suppose that I shouldn't be shocked to find SE gave BLU a trait that's not worth using. BG wiki doesn't even mention it not proccing on H2H or DW either.