SE we deserve an answer

[jeffanddane]

Why have SMN been getting the tail end of the stick. If you play the job you will know how bad it still is and many players have said it.... It's time for the beta on SMN to be over! Please do something your fans are begging you.

[Dallas]

You didn't like the fix. Can't fix an opinion.

[Saiken253]

I mostly want multiple JTs for my pets(and certain JTs all of them share) and no more global CD of BPs... that's all i really want...

[Sargent]

At least the gear options are infinitely better now then they were at 75. Even still, 90% of the new pacts suck.

[Malamasala]

I wouldn't call it "options". SE mostly just added another set (Empyrean) that you could upgrade to to avoid the previous trash armors.

Well, there are of course the augmented stuff, but it is way too much work to get those for the +2-3 MAB they'll offer.

[Meyi]

I think SMN had the best relic set of all the jobs. But the Empyrean gear takes the cake.

I'd like to see BP delay have no cap on how much can be reduced. And I would like to see more pet attack and pet accuracy on gear. I feel so pathetic on summoner when compared to my black mage.

[Sargent]

It's not just the empryean armour, there's a mass of upgraded gear via Synergy that can be obtained, for example:
H.Head - Pet:MAB (which is the 100% augment)
H.Hands - Pet:MAB
H.Legs - Pet:Atk, Crit Rate
A.Feet - Pet:MAB
Kirin's Pole - Summoning skill

Relic +2 also has great stats, there are so many other options to Empryean Armor nowerdays

[Tannlore]

It's not just the empryean armour, there's a mass of upgraded gear via Synergy that can be obtained, for example:
H.Head - Pet:MAB (which is the 100% augment)
H.Hands - Pet:MAB
H.Legs - Pet:Atk, Crit Rate
A.Feet - Pet:MAB
Kirin's Pole - Summoning skill

Relic +2 also has great stats, there are so many other options to Empryean Armor nowerdays

Yup yup! This is quite true.

[Tarage]

Tanaka and his cronies have no idea how the players actually play their game, or don't care. You'll never get a good game out of them.

[Malamasala]

It's not just the empryean armour, there's a mass of upgraded gear via Synergy that can be obtained, for example:
H.Head - Pet:MAB (which is the 100% augment)
H.Hands - Pet:MAB
H.Legs - Pet:Atk, Crit Rate
A.Feet - Pet:MAB
Kirin's Pole - Summoning skill

Relic +2 also has great stats, there are so many other options to Empryean Armor nowerdays

Well, that is one stat. I think it is rather poor when all you get is one stat fitting your job and then a bunch that is pretty useless. Imagine if WAR had to go synergy a pair of hands that had haste on, but sadly you didn't get STR, attack, accuracy, or any of those stats. Just +7 MP, +12 HP, fire resist +12 and haste +2%.

It is so utterly crap, and yet we cheer because this crap is infinitely better than previous crap.

[Dekusuta]

Clearly the answer is lvl 99 bloodpacts; uncapping merit 2 bloodpacts so we can unlock all of them and bring them to full power; new summonables; avatars getting treated 'fairly' when it comes to PDT trait/gear calculation instead of getting half of its benefit due to how the math is done;

All we've been getting is gimmicks. The last gimmick that was actually benefit us was elemental siphon and i think that was 2 years ago.

[Saiken253]

not true! Shock Squall is quite a useful gimmick! haha~

[Dekusuta]

right, shock squall is quite nice. It has vaulted Ramuh as a strong #2 for me though Titan can sometimes be my #2 as well with earthern armor working for the entire time its on.

Garuda really is the model for a great avatar now. Great all around damage/ability to self heal/ useful buffs.


Mostly though I'm talking about abilities. Mana Cede is nice, but timer is awful

[Zemarin]

Smn getting jipped because smn was the most powerful job in every FF incarnation.. SO FFXI SE made extra precaution to water down SMN until near uselessness, but keep it in game for the fan base.. That's why your avas are so weak, and no one cared about smn skill to make it matter till ur capped.