campaign.

[abbazabba]

I think that campaign needs to be changed so its easier to win the end zone. northlands, castle, la vule etc etc. the gear ( besides the cure earring) isn't that great anymore and so it would just be for completions sake to want to fight them. mabye it might get people out campaigning again to if it was a bit easier to win those zones.

[RAIST]

eh.. the campaign battles themselves are pretty easy to do now....just not much of any incentive for people to keep doing them. The recent XP bump was a nice gester, but not enough to draw people in. Don't get me wrong, I love being able to run in and nab 17-20k on a fight solo, but that is just for people who want to solo xp. There really isn't much reason to do it otherwise--Union drops are kind of /meh now, so all you are getting is safe/easy xp. As a group activity, it's got nothing on newer content, and provides no reason for people to group up and take over areas.

Kinda the same goes for Beseiged...it's fun to run around and whack stuff for a little distraction and nab 15k xp and possibly a few skillups if you still need some on a weaker skill (I do this a lot for WHM still), but if you have a big group in there it ends pretty quick. We ran Undead Swarm out of Dodge in like 30 minutes the other night. Loved every minute of it as a WHM/SAM spamming Hexa/Halo....but it's not something everyone is teaming up to do and then go raid MtZ or something. When it ends, everyone starts warping out almost immediately after the CS ends.

They need a REAL incentive to draw people into Campaign again. One thing that has been lobbied heavily for is to let us skill up. Granted, for the most part you'd only get to about 70-72 caps via the DC tweak, maybe higher on the Bosses--but it would get you into a decent range to get skillups flowing better in Abyssea. Another thing they could do is maybe add some of the new spells to the Union spoils again (but with better chance to get them). That idea could kill two birds with one stone--maybe get some more people doing Campaign, and help fight the inflation on the new spells.

[Kriegsgott]

actually Campaign is ok so far....
the only main problem is SE does NOTHING! for people which really like to spam Campaign!

3 years a long time and i asked for different stuff

like to fix Xarcabard's S china dragon of course this was where we all had only lvl 75 but he sucks still
Campaign only mobs link with NON campaign mobs
more Campaign OP tiers
easier to get Funding upgraded for no reason this dosn really happen
More or probably unlimited Campaign OP's for Holding the Medal of Altana or doing some bonus stuff for it !
and the main reason why i'm very pissed is
wtf is wrong with Bastok?
i joined many battles in sandy > bastok > windurst
never saw a nation sucks a lot like Bastok!
almost each Unit from Sandy has buff/self heal skills
Bastok has a high get killed skill
Windurst is almost the samy like sandy

if you ar going for Northland Wins dont care about Bastok just try to get the Area for Sandy or Windy

[Ryce]

The incentives are really missing, though the Shadow Lord gear is still sexy ^^.

I wish they would either reduce the requirements for capturing zones (to scale it down to the number of active participants) or add in some new incentives to bring people back into it.

I KNOW! Trial of the Magians! /sarcasm

[Concerned4FFxi]

I'd do more campaign for shadowlord gear access if they added skill ups to campaign mobs and just had zero skill ups on fixed structures.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Speaking of Fortifications, having the reward from hitting them nerfed makes defending far more advantageous than attacking for players. I wouldn't be surprised if that alone was what is keeping the Northlands stagnant.

[FrankReynolds]

I'd do more campaign for shadowlord gear access if they added skill ups to campaign mobs and just had zero skill ups on fixed structures.

This. Allow skill ups in campaign. Maybe add auto-re-raise like WOE too, but on a 5-10 minute timer to stop the abuse.

[Concerned4FFxi]

you can alreeady get a rr scroll from the outpost npc, please not more auto-rr, but if the issue is people not getting xp/allied notes because they are ko'd after campaign then give everyone the raise effect at the end of campaign that needs it, and give 25% less allied notes and xp to those players still ko'd at the end.

Because seriously, how hard is it to bring a rr scroll/earring and purchase an additional one from the npc, it's a temp item after all so you can hold both scolls. In fact, I buy one for 30 notes, use it, buy another, and I carry the one from the conquest points in my satchel. That's so easy, even a caveman can do it. If they can't do that, then they should please go do WOE.

With the added raise effect at the end of campaign, this I feel rewards the prepared players, and also gives less fortunite people who can't get a raise but still fought rewards and the players standing more rewards than the ko'd people whose rr effect wore/whatever and needed the auto raise effect at the end of battle.

[FrankReynolds]

you can alreeady get a rr scroll from the outpost npc, please not more auto-rr, but if the issue is people not getting xp/allied notes because they are ko'd after campaign then give everyone the raise effect at the end of campaign that needs it, and give 25% less allied notes and xp to those players still ko'd at the end.

Because seriously, how hard is it to bring a rr scroll/earring and purchase an additional one from the npc, it's a temp item after all so you can hold both scolls. In fact, I buy one for 30 notes, use it, buy another, and I carry the one from the conquest points in my satchel. That's so easy, even a caveman can do it. If they can't do that, then they should please go do WOE.

With the added raise effect at the end of campaign, this I feel rewards the prepared players, and also gives less fortunite people who can't get a raise but still fought rewards and the players standing more rewards than the ko'd people whose rr effect wore/whatever and needed the auto raise effect at the end of battle.

I figured that the ten minute thing would keep people from getting screwed at the end, but still encourage them to use the scroll instead. It would be mainly just for people who get stuck in the middle of a bunch of mobs, and die after rr the first time. Every once in a while you get that annoying mage NM that spams Sleepga --> Firag IV or something like that.

[RAIST]

yeah.. and let's not forget the lovely death squads in the necro....15 mobs hovering around the brazier...shoot one from max distance and run like hell to the next room, hoping the NPC's MIGHT engage the mob(and usually DON'T). Stupid AI's keep pounding on a fort when the mobs are right beside them--sometimes even in front of them. If you can't get them to fire off an AOE to get the NPC's attention, you are dead meat.

[Tohihroyu]

This. Allow skill ups in campaign. Maybe add auto-re-raise like WOE too, but on a 5-10 minute timer to stop the abuse.

Yes Auto Reraise in CB would be great...no need to have to sub whm or sch...or waiting for ages to get a raise...only to get a raise long after its ended & the spoils already lotted & distributed (I know I know "lololo who dose union anymore?!" )

[Limecat]

I like campaign and can think of all sorts of neat things they could do with it, but ultimately there just really aren't enough people hammering it anymore to put much effort into expanding it. It would be nice if they would undo the fort nerf though, there's no way in hell I'm going to smack one for ten minutes for 50 exp. Any potential people had for getting easy exp from forts has long been eclipsed by Abyssea and book burns.

[FrankReynolds]

I like campaign and can think of all sorts of neat things they could do with it, but ultimately there just really aren't enough people hammering it anymore to put much effort into expanding it. It would be nice if they would undo the fort nerf though, there's no way in hell I'm going to smack one for ten minutes for 50 exp. Any potential people had for getting easy exp from forts has long been eclipsed by Abyssea and book burns.

True. There really is no need for the fort nerf anymore.

[Dudelsack]

I like campaign and can think of all sorts of neat things they could do with it, but ultimately there just really aren't enough people hammering it anymore to put much effort into expanding it. It would be nice if they would undo the fort nerf though, there's no way in hell I'm going to smack one for ten minutes for 50 exp. Any potential people had for getting easy exp from forts has long been eclipsed by Abyssea and book burns.

so true thats why SE can and should remove the fortification nerf shit

[Charilyn]

More Campaign OP Credits would be nice too ( i guess i post it to all the other Campaign threads too...)

[Kriegsgott]

so true thats why SE can and should remove the fortification nerf shit

true words dude

[SharMarali]

Just a suggestion: If you have some new ideas for how campaign could be adjusted, please post them instead of necrobumping every single campaign related thread with a "me too" reply. One method is far more likely than the other to get positive attention from the community reps and by extension, the dev team.

[RAIST]

Just a suggestion: If you have some new ideas for how campaign could be adjusted, please post them instead of necrobumping every single campaign related thread with a "me too" reply. One method is far more likely than the other to get positive attention from the community reps and by extension, the dev team.

lol.. you do realize you yourself just bumped an almost 4 week old thread?

But, back to the thread's topics. They've bumped up rewards for ops and some other minor tweaks along the way and Campaign has gotten a LITTLE better I guess. But... they still have that stupid fort nerf in there I think? I general avoid fort thwacking unless I wanted to test out gear swaps/self-chain macros or something like that. Don't recall reading about any intentions to drop it yet.

[SharMarali]

lol.. you do realize you yourself just bumped an almost 4 week old thread?


Sorry about that. I saw about a half dozen campaign-related threads in the sidebar, saw that 1-2 people had gone through and bumped all of these threads from 2011, and, remembering how the community reps generally respond to bumping for the sake of bumping, thought I would let the persons responsible know that they are doing more harm than good. I just picked one of the threads to reply in, didn't realize it was weeks old. That was my mistake for not looking closer at the date.

And yes, campaign could definitely use improvements. Trying to take over beastman-controlled areas is unbelievably bad thanks to the fact that an entire battle can take place without the beastmen even showing up. Union rewards are dismal, at best. To me, the absolute worst part about campaign is the fact that the campaign map updates so slowly. It would be nice to have some kind of real-time ticker that told where a campaign battle was taking place or when one was expected to take place soon, similar to how areas are listed as "preparing" before an attack with besieged.

[Chuckytaru]

Just a suggestion: If you have some new ideas for how campaign could be adjusted, please post them instead of necrobumping every single campaign related thread with a "me too" reply. One method is far more likely than the other to get positive attention from the community reps and by extension, the dev team.

there is no positive attention from the community reps for almost over 1 year? i dont know the exactly date but i do know i'm paying monthly for like everyone else for this game and i get over 1 year ignore and you think i care about "positive attention" ?!

serously nothing against you but the DEVteam has to work with it just ignore the threads if you dont like campaign i do the same with other threads which i dont care

[Kriegsgott]

True. There really is no need for the fort nerf anymore.
go go SE make a statement will the Fortnerfshit never go away?

[Luvbunny]

This. Allow skill ups in campaign. Maybe add auto-re-raise like WOE too, but on a 5-10 minute timer to stop the abuse.

This!! Skill ups in campaign at greater rate when your country is owning the zone. And double rate when you are attacking beastmen zones. Auto reraise is a must have, a 60 seconds timer would be great.

[Luvbunny]

I like campaign and can think of all sorts of neat things they could do with it, but ultimately there just really aren't enough people hammering it anymore to put much effort into expanding it. It would be nice if they would undo the fort nerf though, there's no way in hell I'm going to smack one for ten minutes for 50 exp. Any potential people had for getting easy exp from forts has long been eclipsed by Abyssea and book burns.

If they are adding more gears and accessories at lvl 99, it will revitalize campaign faster than you can spin your head. If they are adding ancient currency trade up, exclusive to each cities/country, you will see hordes of people doing campaign to sell currency or supplementing their dynamis farm. If they created WoTG BCNM exclusive where you can get the 100 currency as one of their drops, more people will do campaign. So many ways to make it more attractive and appealing, yet they refuse to do ANY changes. Instead of creating half assed new content with barely any thoughts behind it other than zerg it with embrava + Pd or you are dead - they could make the current content more attractive. Especially when you see so many post requiring these changes and improvement.

[Dudelsack]

SE WAKE UP! updates please!
so call me maybe ?

[Kriegsgott]

SE WAKE UP! updates please!
so call me maybe ?

looooooooooool !

[Chuckytaru]

SE WAKE UP! updates please!
so call me maybe ?

lol this made my day