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Zirkk
12-03-2011, 04:43 PM
Hello, I am representing the 100 or so NA and JP players who play very serious competitive 60 cap Ballista. Many of us have been playing Ballista since it was first introduced, and now play it exclusively every day (no other FFXI content unless it will benefit our Ballista careers).

I need to stress again the competitiveness, all of us spend millions upon millions of gil augmenting every suitable/eligible item we can get our hands on for a chance at an extra STR+1 or other stats in a given gear slot for that extra advantage. These augments are actually essential to be able to keep up with the competition.

When level syncing was introduced, some gear which was level 75+ turned out to actually be the best gear available in some slots when scaled down to level 60. Many of us had to go out to the outside world to level our jobs passed level 60 just so we could equip this gear.

We have already worked out how items scale to level 60 with respect to many of the observable stats, such as defense, attack, HP, MP, attributes (STR, DEX, etc), and some less observable stats which can still be precisely deduced such as accuracy.

Other stats can be very problematic, however. For example, how much evasion would a Wivre Mask grant at level 60? We need to know the exact value, so that we can make the best decision as to which is the headpiece we wish to use in a given scenario. To be able to test evasion, for all gear slots, to a confidence level such that we can be sure we know the exact value, would take an immeasurable amount of time and effort to collect enough data, and evasion is just one of the "hidden" stats we wish to know.

We request if you could release this information to us. It would make a world of difference to those of us who play Ballista seriously on a daily basis, and I don't think this information being revealed would affect regular FFXI play significantly, if at all. If a full comprehensive list is too much to ask, just the sync values for evasion, ranged accuracy, and magic evasion will be sufficient.

Thank you for your time.

Evviva
12-03-2011, 06:35 PM
This seems just lovely for level 60 cap fights!
LOL PEOPLE PLAY BALLISTA

Scudo
12-03-2011, 06:38 PM
y do u waist ppplz tiem wit dis
ballstar is ded.

Tsukino_Kaji
12-03-2011, 10:07 PM
We could make a server with just the 100 of you on it and you can kill eachotehr all day. No, the rest of you cannot have a PvP server. It's only for the admited 100 people on all servers everywhere that that OP talked about that still want to play something that was nothing more then a passing fad.

Evviva
12-04-2011, 04:45 AM
We could make a server with just the 100 of you on it and you can kill eachotehr all day. No, the rest of you cannot have a PvP server. It's only for the admited 100 people on all servers everywhere that that OP talked about that still want to play something that was nothing more then a passing fad.

AMEN BROTHER!

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Ballista is amazing, its no surprise that any of the above people don't do it, they can't handle it anyway. The hatred is ridiculous when this man is simply asking for information that should be readily available, like many other "mystery" stats on armor.

However I wish they would add Ancient Currency or Alexandrite to Ballista rewards, or allow Ballista points to be converted into useful things like AC or Alexandrite, varying on cap with the higher cap giving more rewards.




However you are about to hate me, and I please ask for your forgiveness:

However with your approach to "I only PvP and nothing else." This is a very backwards way to go about trying to bring interest back into content (of any kind.) Its just as bad as the people who possess a giant ego and only pve-derp-am-i-a-badass-yet?

However asking them to cater to level 60 content is rediculous and claims of "balance" fall on deaf ears and only seek to worsen the gap between PvE and PvP. When PvE should allow you to get gear to be used in PvP and vice versa, making it holistic and improving interest.

PvE should intersect with PvP in the simplest fashion, in that rewards from one can be used in the other, most notably in trade able, sell able tokens of progress like AC or Alexandrite that give an alternative method to attaining great and powerful items to further your career in the rest of the game.

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:16 PM
Most people don't do Ballista because it's horribly implemented and certain job combinations have distinct advantages over other jobs.

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:20 PM
Most people don't do Ballista because it's horribly implemented and certain job combinations have distinct advantages over other jobs.

Such is any game, but the disparity is hardly as grievous and absolute as many would think and want to believe to give them an easy psychological escape.

Are you one of those ignorant people that believe that an RDM or BLU can kill everything with ease?

Most people don't do Ballista because they are terrible and can't think outside of a tissue-paper box.

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:26 PM
DRK, RDM, BLU and Ochain Prd are probably the worst jobs to have to deal with depending on situation, yes.

Rdm was never able to kill with ease... it just bores people to death.

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:33 PM
DRK, RDM, BLU and Ochain Prd are probably the worst jobs to have to deal with depending on situation, yes.

Rdm was never able to kill with ease... it just bores people to death.

Oh? How's the Dark Knight giving you troubles?
And the Blue Mages? Please elaborate?
And the Ochain Paladin deals with mages well how?




However -

RDM has DoT and access to Tier IV nukes doing well over 800 damage to unshelled targets, and with spontaneity Impact, there's nothing "slow" about the "fastest casting" job in the game.

Did you really just say that RDM can't kill anyone with ease? I was hoping to give you more rope but that shan't be necessary.
Thank you.

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:36 PM
I said kill with ease, kiting is a very boring battle. And I already mentioned depending on situation, I wouldn't want to be stacked against a Ochain prd on war for example. I did usually kill drks with nukes, yes.

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:38 PM
WAR has it rough not going to lie about that, it is basically DRK with no utility. However with mp merits /war (especially Taru) can easily push 400+ mp with the ability to sustain itself with the sub, and put the hurt on the PLD with dispel physical damage aspir/drain.


Bravura WAR with max PDT can fight a very long battle against the paladin and make them pay dearly with retaliation. Everytime the paladin goes to cast they are going to eat an Great axe in the back. The fight can go either way if the warrior capitalizes on their powerful physical offense with the right gear vs the PLD.

(And circles around the PLD to minimize shield blocks, and gets rid of enlight.)




It says "never able to kill with ease."
I bet you don't even have a Flawless ribbon.

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:41 PM
Kinda sad I could win without one yes? Ballista is mostly dead on my server... I think the biggest challenge I ever had was a Rdm friend of mine, and he still took 3 deaths to kill me once, and that was with a handicap.

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:44 PM
Kinda sad I could win without one yes? Ballista is mostly dead on my server... I think the biggest challenge I ever had was a Rdm friend of mine, and he still took 3 deaths to kill me once, and that was with a handicap.

Fight my DRK I always like to go against a good RDM.

Transfer to Phoenix right now, if you win I'll give you the 42,000,000G in Ancient Currency going towards my Ragnarok.

You sound like quite a formidable opponent indeed!

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:46 PM
I almost fell for that. Almost.

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:47 PM
I almost fell for that. Almost.

If by "fell" you mean turned down, or ran away or something else.
What a pity, and terribly unsurprising.

Well I believe that is enough rope for today, but if you get tired of holding it and want a shot at all the riches, feel free to come on down, or up.

I won't even request a handicap!

Urteil
12-05-2011, 10:49 PM
Ah I meant 43,000,000G I forgot a sneaky 2 100 Byne in my Satchel.


Essentially what we are looking at is 67 L. Shells, 21 M.Silvers and 12 100.Bynes. Whatever that is worth to you?

Should be easy right, you won with a handicap! No ribbon! On RDM!

Neisan_Quetz
12-05-2011, 10:53 PM
I happen to like this server full of idiots (okay my friends are here to), my allegiance will not be bought by the promise of riches. I will never fight under any other banner than this one!

Evviva
12-06-2011, 09:23 AM
I fight for my friends. :D