New Weaponskill! Its not -Awful-

[Karbuncle]

So did all my Fellow Thieves give up and run away from the forums? Surprised no ones talking about it.

Apparently ,its an AGI Mod, and from my 3rd Grade understanding of what Byrth Said on BG, 5 hits, with 100%AGI Mod (with 5/5 Merits). I think.

Seems to out-perform DE and Evisc on Average unstacked, Rudras/etc Will still win Stacked.

But it looks like our new best Weaponskill Unstacked. Which is exciting for me.

[Delvish]

They were all chased away by the THF knife thread, considering it has been the only posted thread in a week.

[Babekeke]

Here's to hoping it's either a sensible number of ws to unlock it, or just a pure skill level. Please don't let it be floor 200 of Nyzul or 5 million ws points.

[FrankReynolds]

Its a merit ability. Has anyone here actually tried it? I hate sifting through 90 pages of posts on BG to find things.

[Greatguardian]

General consensus is that it's a clear win over DE/Evis for unstacked WS, but can't beat out Rudra's for SA WS. Decent for TA WS though, since it's an AGI mod.

Edit: This is at 5/5

[Insaniac]

It's a 4hit WS so 5 hits with DW. 1.0 fTP with a 100% Agi mod. I did quite a bit of running around and stabbing but very little recording of data so unfortunately all I have is eyeballs. The WS is really really nice unstacked with a sub par agi build. I think I was using +72 and the current highest possible is 86, i think. It certainly puts Evis and DE to rest outside abyssea. I didn't get to do any TA tests but with SA, mercy stroke and rudra's still win easily. Because of the nature of THF gear I think it could beat TA MS simply because there's not much STR/AGI gear. There's plenty of AGI/DEX gear though so RS should still easily win stacked with TA. Oh yeah. It has an Acc down effect which is nice I suppose if you find yourself tanking something that through some miracle doesn't have floored accuracy already.

[Vold]

I wish I could talk about it via 1st hand experience but I need to transfer first before I can register the add ons I swore I'd never buy that I bought via the abyssea collections download for my bst helm. So I have to rely on everyone else, and I must say that I have no complaints to hear about DE/evis losing their jobs outside Abyssea. I'll be cleaving overtime for those merits x.x

I think I've also given up on my TH trials so I've spent less time around here. I think it's obvious that the higher your TH, the better your drop rate is. I basically learned what I wanted to learn without going overboard with 10 hundred million kills(basically double whatever I've posted and you have my updated TH data), learned a particularly important need to know about certain monsters in zones being separated and having different drop rates(aura statues for example, of course), and Synergy augments got my foot into Synergy gear so I'm making infinitely more gil now.

So, yeah. My tricks up for sky aside from my own personal farming for my augment needs. I still need that perfect aug on a couple key pieces.

[Kitkat]

Messed around with this in abyssea some. At first I was a little unhappy with it as it didn't seem to really gain much damage at all from being stacked with sa or ta. Tweaked my gear for a split between agi/dex/att and used RR/GH/Apoc. Randomly it surprised me with several 4.6-5k outputs stacked. The only change between sa and ta sets was hands used: Raiders+2 for sa, Rogue+1 for TA.

Going to mess around with it outside of abyssea on thf a little bit before I log for the night, but my ta-whore logged off and for the life of me I can't find my fellow earring >.<

[Insaniac]

Yeah it's not an end all be all WS. Evisc easily beats it in Abyssea and rudra/mercy absolutely destroy it when stacked. Outside is where it shines.

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

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[Kitkat]

I'll agree that Mercy and Rudra destroys it. With appropriate atma/gear set it still does 4.6~5k but I remember seeing evis as high as 5.5-6k with supporting atma. Outside it definitely does far better than evisceration. In sky on Aura Statues I saw up to 3.3k Exenterator, but rarely broke 2.9k with evisceration. Mercy still went as high as 3.9k and I didn't bother comparing rudras after that since I already knew the outcome there also. Unstacked I saw 1.6~2.5k. Hard to love it, but at the same time I don't exactly hate it.

Anyone by chance notice the SC properties for this? I remember Requiscate>Exenterator doing fragmentation, but that was about all I had time to check out before my friend logged for the night.

[Byrth]

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Exenterator

I've been updating it as I go. The Skillchain properties are pretty unfortunate for Dancer.

[Karbuncle]

Yeah it's not an end all be all WS. Evisc easily beats it in Abyssea and rudra/mercy absolutely destroy it when stacked. Outside is where it shines.

Are we sure? I tested it, Seemed impressive even in Abyssea.

In retrospect, though, I think i made a mistake, And I'm prone to terrible mistakes.

I was in Abyssea testing it on my Brothers character... his Gear isn't amazing, just what we had on the Test server... no WS Gear either, but his WS were averaging 3.5k+, I think my peak was about 4.3k Or something with no SA/TA (he was THF/WAR) (EYEBALL GO)

4.6 or something with the SA, but it died before all hits landed

Was on the Mobs in Altep that wander around where Conflux 2 is, This is where i think i made the mistake, they take more damage when casting... I don't think they were all casting when i WS'd but that might be where I'm fudging the numbers, I'm leaning toward this heavily.

Either way, I was impressed with it in Abyssea, and out... What were your findings? I read all of Byrths, interesting to see yours

[Kitkat]

Well, I was fighting dolls and this is one of the WS I got with trick attack, but I think there was a ta proc in there. Outside of abyssea it was a fairly consistent 3.2k~3.3k stacked with SA against Aura Statues for me. Downside is, I think I read somewhere on bg that there may be less than desirable returns on high def mobs.

[Insaniac]

So far no one has found an attack penalty for exenterator.

I'm nowhere near as mathy as byrth and I was only comparing unstacked exent vs. evisc. Stacked they should be a bit closer. I don't have any concrete numbers unstacked but exent was doing 2.5-3k and that's a lowball for my eviscerations which can easily go up to 5k unstacked and average 3.5k. Both with Apoc RR and GH. I had +72 AGI in gear which is about 10-12 short of the max possible.

Also the Clionids you were messing with do take extra damage while casting and on top of that are weak to piercing.

[Karbuncle]

Also the Clionids you were messing with do take extra damage while casting and on top of that are weak to piercing.

That was my strong assumption.

I only toyed with it for a little while... Skyrim's got my attention. Fun WS, looks cool and all.

[Calatilla]

Slightly off-topic but has anyone managed to get the ws to work from a macro? So far I've only been able to manually select it. When i add it to a macro I get an error message.

[Insaniac]

I haven't had any problems.

[Kitkat]

/ws "Exenterator" <t>

Works just fine for me from macro unless misspelling it.

[Calatilla]

/ws "Exenterator" <t>

Works just fine for me from macro unless misspelling it.

That's how my macro is but for some reason it fails to execute. All other ws's work fine, just not this one.