More "."s and more rage....

[Insaniac]

So, there are no english descriptions for the new WSs so only JPs can use them. Thanks for yet another FU.

[Arylias]

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Nope.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/buzzsaw5k/pol2011-11-3005-25-13-42.jpg

[Insaniac]

No Sir. This shit is real. Not a single usable WS. Just a "." for the description too so we have no idea what they do until someone dat mines the JP stuff and we google translate them.

[Insaniac]

Agreed. I was pumped to test this stuff out and actually stayed up just to see it. I spent a good 30 minutes prepping before the update came too. Putting all jobs at 99, pulling +2s off the storage slips, and loading up with WoE weapons. Wasted. fucking. time.

[Arcon]

Well, it's a bug.. that's what testing is for. Not sure why all the rage. You'll still get to test it once they fix it.

[Arylias]

Well, it's a bug.. that's what testing is for. Not sure why all the rage. You'll still get to test it once they fix it.

It's not a bug, it's because they haven't translted them yet. Although they are sitting there in the merit menu, fully translated.

[Arcon]

Ok, so it's an "error" they made instead of a bug. Same difference, it's not like they did it intentionally to hinder testing.

[Theytak]

Well, it's a bug.. that's what testing is for. Not sure why all the rage. You'll still get to test it once they fix it.

It's not a bug. They did not translate the items. They only added the new ws for the JP testing client. They did this when they released the Relic armor+2 as well.

Seriously, if they want us to test shit, they need to either get their translators off their asses or not release it until it's actually ready. It took people what, 2, 3 hours tops to have all the relic +2 .dats translated from Japanese to english using Google translate and bablefish. That they can't have a bilingual person sit down with the +1 sets and the +2 sets, copy pasta the +1 sets, change all the relevant numbers since that's the bulk of the change, and add the few random snipets of new text is just inexcusable at this point.

And No, before anyone says anything, that cop-out crap they keep saying about "The names of the WS/Spells/whatever are not finalized" every time they do this is not an acceptable answer. Nothing on the test server is finalized, that's the whole point.

God, I'm so pissed off right now.

[Theytak]

I gotta be honest, I can't wait to see how they try to cover their asses over this. (I don't mean this as a shot at people like Camate, shooting the messenger isn't cool, I mean the dev team themselves) There's absolutely no reasonable excuse for them to say content is ready for testing and then release it, only for it to not be ready for testing at all. This is turning into the whole "The Devs only listen to JAPANESE feedback" again, and honestly, it's getting harder and harder for them to deny this fact.

[Insaniac]

The SMN BPs are still unusable too btw. Maybe the plan is to just not let us give feedback so they don't have to go through the trouble of not listening to it.

[Kaisha]

As I said in another thread, they need to start assigning generic debug label pointers to these abilities so the game can at least understand we're telling it to activate something it understands, other than a "." placeholder due to the item having no descriptor.

[Theytak]

On the upside, they did unbreak the magian moogles. They completely removed the placeholders for the Relic+2 trials, but they aren't shooting out sparks and smoke when you ask them a simple question.

[Arcon]

I'm the last one to defend SE's intelligence, their reasoning is usually pretty stupid, but why would they deliberately not translate it? It's the first time that I recall that something was not translated at all (there were always translation errors, but that's different). Something must have gotten lost in the development process. That's probably why they were hesitant to admit a mistake at first and suggested a mistake on the user side. I'm just not seeing how this rage is justified, you act like SE took a whiz on your face. They fucked up, they're bound to realize that now, and hopefully they'll fix it soon.

[Dew]

The relic +2 trials work now. Traded Duelist's Chapeau +1 to it and got 20 .s and the reward showed +2 and stats.

[Theytak]

I'm the last one to defend SE's intelligence, their reasoning is usually pretty stupid, but why would they deliberately not translate it? It's the first time that I recall that something was not translated at all (there were always translation errors, but that's different). Something must have gotten lost in the development process. That's probably why they were hesitant to admit a mistake at first and suggested a mistake on the user side. I'm just not seeing how this rage is justified, you act like SE took a whiz on your face. They fucked up, they're bound to realize that now, and hopefully they'll fix it soon.

No, it's pretty much every time they add new items or abilities. They did something similar to this when the level 95 and 99 magian trials were announced, and they've also done it with randomly added spells and abilities, and then the relic+2 and now the new WS. It's a really, really aggravating pattern.


The relic +2 trials work now. Traded Duelist's Chapeau +1 to it and got 20 .s and the reward showed +2 and stats.

That's odd, they didn't show the trials when I pulled up the trial listings. They must've added them in a way that you have to check each piece individually... oh boy

[Insaniac]

I just got booted from the test server for trying to check a JP lol.

[Sharnak]

They didn't deliberately not translate it to piss us off. They just simply didn't give enough of a shit. The same reason the new SMN and BST tp moves have sat untranslated for 2 weeks now.

But you know form my topics
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17508-New-weaponskill-appear-on-list-as-.


It seems only the english version is affect, tested it on the french version and ws works fine. I tried on english version too and got the "." in place of ws name.

I have nothing to say...

[Theytak]

I give up, I'm going to sleep before I rage my teeth out and say something I might actually regret

[Halycon]

I give up, I'm going to sleep before I rage my teeth out and say something I might actually regret

I second this.

[Lessina]

By far the most disappointing update ever...

[xiozen]

As everyone has said, can confirm, as of 7:06 AM EST time, the new weapon skills are UNUSABLE at least for NA's. Description in menu appears as a ".", a wonderful... ".", very descriptive "."... period!!

GREAT... going to work now.

[Detoxy]

I foresee this thread getting shutdown LOOK MA I POSTED IN Here. But on a side note im just as pissed.

[Rakshaka]

At the very least, the test patch should be tested by someone on SE's side before they update the server. Is no one looking at the English version on SE's side? Or, are there people checking the English patch that don't run into this issue? If it's the latter, then seeing these issues is understandable, because in that case even SE doesn't know what's going on. If it's the former, then that's just irresponsible, seeing as how they hype up all the test server updates before releasing them, only to give us nothing to test.

[Mirage]

"Oh no, the test server isn't 100% perfect! I'm going to slit my wrists now!"

[Kitkat]

I think the point is that an SE rep posted about the 14 WS being available to everyone yesterday for this update and once again we are finding out this is not the case. For some reason translation to english is seeing repeating problems leaving those using the english client at a loss.

[Zubis]

From Wikipedia: A software bug is the common term used to describe an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result.

So yes, the fact that this stuff isn't working means it's a bug. However the bug lies with the transaction rather the content developers. Yes it's highly irritating, but try not to be a twelve year old and pull the "rawr JP Button" stuff, seriously.

Hopefully it'll be fixed soon and a greater amount of QA will be assigned to all Test Clients.

[Mirage]

I think the point is that an SE rep posted about the 14 WS being available to everyone yesterday for this update and once again we are finding out this is not the case. For some reason translation to english is seeing repeating problems leaving those using the english client at a loss.
Of course, but the amount of rage in this tread is really uncalled for. Do you really think the developers are gonna fix this faster just cause 5 people called them a bag of dicks?

[xbobx]

"It's not a bug, it's because they haven't translted them yet. Although they are sitting there in the merit menu, fully translated. "

Merit menu? Are these weaponskills unlocked with merits?

[Fredjan]

"It's not a bug, it's because they haven't translted them yet. Although they are sitting there in the merit menu, fully translated. "

Merit menu? Are these weaponskills unlocked with merits?

They are. You need 15 merits just to unlock the category (Nomad Moogle by Maat).

10>15>20>25>30 merits to max them (they go to level 5). Only 15 merits allowed in the category.

I suppose I was probably one of the few that expected the English version to have a bunch of "." given their recent history with SMN BPs. >_> The only case here is they aren't properly translated; there's nothing wrong with our clients.

[Delvish]

so that is the reason for 30 merit increase. Any idea what the limit is on WS? only 3 or so Maxwell out?

[Arcon]

so that is the reason for 30 merit increase. Any idea what the limit is on WS? only 3 or so Maxwell out?

They said it's 15 max in the category, 5 max per item. So can only do 5 per WS max.

[Bayohne]

As Camate recently posted in the Test Server thread regarding SMN bloodpacts, we are aware of the issue and are escalating it to the dev. team. I understand the frustration about not being able to check out the new content immediately, and we apologize for the trouble caused, however this is simply the result of an unintended issue.

That said, I will be locking this thread as there are numerous inappropriate comments being made. As I mentioned, I understand the frustration but please try and keep the tone and content of the comments constructive.