One week is too long bring back FFXI NOW [Archive]

Mirage

03-13-2011, 11:22 PM

Dear thread starter

Japan is currently not producing enough power. In order to keep important facilities and services operational, people and businesses are asked to reduce their energy consumption until they can get get the electrical grid up and running as normally, as well as negotiate energy import deals with neighbouring countries until their nuclear reactors are working again.

The three-day delay isn't hard to understand. At the start of the disaster, they might not have known how hard it was going to hit them. They might have said to countries they're importing power from that "hey can be use some more, just for a few days?", and that was fine. Now that they know it'll take a while until they get their own systems working again, they want to conserve as much as they can.

In addition to that, there are things known as after-shakes. These, as the name implies, occur after the initial earthquake, and can deal a lot of damage to the buildings that were already pretty messed up by the first quake. These most likely worsened the situation that Japan already was in significantly.

I don't understand why this is hard to understand.

Kjara

03-13-2011, 11:22 PM

This break gives us all a good chance to look around and see what's happening on Earth. Game will be back, no reason to cry over it.

Shiala

03-13-2011, 11:23 PM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

SE made the right decision. The energy is greatly needed to power hospitals and shelters. Losing a week or two of gameplay is a small price to pay.

Effilil

03-13-2011, 11:23 PM

I agree with the shutdown, that's power that can be rerouted to important services like hospitals...a week away from the game won't hurt us, and my thoughts and prayers go out to all the people in Japan who are being affected by this terrible disaster

Mirage

03-13-2011, 11:23 PM

Understand that if they weren't turning the servers off for a week that your playtime would be limited to whenever they had power during the rolling blackouts. I think you would have found being kicked off the servers over and over to be more frustrating.

Also a very good point.

HFX7686

03-13-2011, 11:29 PM

I'm surprised they didn't take the servers down sooner.

OP, you're a horrible human being.

Silver lining: all the people who were always short stones will have a weeks worth of stones when they come back.

samusaron

03-13-2011, 11:33 PM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

I am reading this and especially this Quote by "Hordecore" and some of the responses that you have made here By Randwolf (respect) Mirage (Respect) to say Totally agree with the Action SE has made to shut down Sever for Humanitarian Reason's for the Calamity that has taken place in Japan and my Heart goes out to those Who have Suffered in this recent Earth Quake. "Hordecore" Im sure you are by now regretting your comment or was it for a reaction? well for what ever the reason there is more to Life then Game , Go out there and open your Eye's and take a look around at the out side world ;-)

bearfoot

03-13-2011, 11:43 PM

I expected the shutdown right after the first desaster , to give us 3 days of gaming durin basically the worst desaster the country has faced is something i rather dont understand .
I think bout what would have happend if this hit another of the big nations , i think Japan is about the best prepared for such situations of any global player nation.
If this happend in the US or EU i think we could expect a downtime for a month easy (if it ever recovered)
As for stones collecting : servers are shut down , shouldnt continue to count stones on accounts and if u still would do gardening i think ur flowers wouldnt rott either XD

ps: i already went out , sun hurt my eyes , the wind felt strange on skin , i complained i want the AC to be turned off but no one replied , so i went to the ZOO to see a byakko to not feel alienated too much

HFX7686

03-13-2011, 11:56 PM

As for stones collecting : servers are shut down , shouldnt continue to count stones on accounts and if u still would do gardening i think ur flowers wouldnt rott either XD

Stones are collected by real time, not server time. When they bring the servers back up and reset the time you should have that number of stones on your character.

Nephilipitou

03-14-2011, 12:00 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

Dude your an idiot. The reason they are shutting down the servers is because their nuclear power plants are risking meltdown right now, people need electricity, and they can't have a bunch of servers sucking down a lot of power 24 seven as well as have in game support centers, etcetera. They have to do their part, and we have to do ours. Our part is finding something else to do with our time as we take (what is obviously something that you need) a break.

Do you know what's bull? The fact that you think you deserve to use Japanese electricity. The fact that you think your seals, or what ever it is you are doing, is more important than the Japanese having the electricity to make it through this week. Do you know what the biggest bull of it all is though?

That you never took a few minutes to read the stuff they put out last night, to find out what's really going on, before you started typing your greedy, selfish, uninformed, uncaring, and entirely irrational thoughts.

Please quit FFXI as soon as possible. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that we don't need uncooperative toads like you in this MMO. You're getting a break from FFXI and a free month so that the Japanese can attempt to keep their lights on, their street lights running, their NUCLEAR power plants from overheating and possibly melting down, etcetera.

While you complain that you can't a computer/ps2 game called FFXI, they will be worrying if having their computer on for too long will mean that they will lose power in their fridges, in their t.v.s, their radios, etcetera. Japan's having a crisis, you're getting a week off.

Grow the hell up dude.

Runespider

03-14-2011, 12:05 AM

Depending on a lot of things this could last longer than a week, possibly a lot longer.

Ilax

03-14-2011, 12:08 AM

I'm surprised they didn't take the servers down sooner.
If you follow the news from day 1 to now, they was under estimating the situation, also the problem with nuclear plan was still unsure, they lost control of 1 reactor that might end to melt down, and now another reactor is about to have same fate. I totally understand they huge need to save energy at this point. And i just pray that will not end in another nuclear disaster.

OP, you're a horrible human being.
He is, he must be very ignorant and selfish. I just hope this 'free week of game' give him enough time to think about it. Also hope he will apologize of his ignorance and selfish person.

My sincere sympathy to japan

myrla-elphaba

03-14-2011, 12:29 AM

A friend suggested this last night:

Donate what you would have paid for April to a disaster relief fund. The Red Cross has been very prevalent, but there are quite a few places that are also offering relief. Or, you can wait until April 1 and do it then - they will need relief for more than just the immediate future.

~

I was a sackholder in a Japanese HNM on Alexander. I know that quite a few of my friends are still safe. I don't know about some of them. Most of them have quit, but stay in touch. I haven't heard from a few since the earthquake happened. My friends that live in Japan that can contact people outside Japan (cell phone networks are wrecked, the internet is spotty at best, rolling blackouts make things hard, etc) are doing so and relaying information as they can.

Anyone - and I mean ANYONE - who complains about not being able to play the game should be immediately shipped to a disaster-stricken area and forced to help with the cleanup. I cannot BELIEVE - well, wait, I can, unfortunately, having played this game for years - that there are some people that are so narrow-minded as to think this will impact their lives on a bad way.

Go outside. Go to a library. Volunteer somewhere. Clean your room like you've been saying you'll do for a while. Go to class instead of skipping it for HNM camps. Call your loved ones. Be very, very, very happy that this did not happen where you live, and thank your lucky stars.

This is a REAL tragedy, one that will have ramifications for YEARS to come - not just in Japan but all over the globe.

Again - this is a natural disaster. "Disaster: a sudden calamitous event bringing great damage, loss, or destruction; broadly : a sudden or great misfortune or failure"

~
Again:

Please consider donating even $10 via text message to the RC or a similar place. You already budgeted the money anyway - if every single person that played FFXI that wasn't Japanese donated, we could make a LOT of a difference - just think, your money could help some of those people that you've played alongside for years. (Many people seem to forget they are human beings as well, but not everyone, thank the gods.)

Sorry for the soapbox, and if you are the praying kind, or the kind of person to send good thoughts - please send them overseas for my friends - and everyone - that are missing. Thank you.

woie

03-14-2011, 12:30 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

and so what little faith i had left in humanity dies with this post ...please go jump under a truck

yes im miffed i cant play but if the power saved makes even the slightest difference to the people of japan then it is all worth it

all the FFXI communitys (well most of us) thoughts and prayers are with you at this time.

i saw somewhere a post sugesting an in game item that could be brought with the proceeds going to help with the disaster make it happen SE

Kaientai

03-14-2011, 12:34 AM

By all means. Let's tell them to bring the servers back up so YOU can play. This game was only made for YOU and YOU are the only person that matters in the game.

Seriously?

Since you now have some free time on your hands, I suggest you update yourself as to what is happening in the real world and not the virtual one you apparently have your only residence in.

The Japanese government made a request. SE is honoring that request. Most of us who have traits called "logic" have no problem with this.

It is now time for you to leave the confines of your basement.

azjazo

03-14-2011, 12:45 AM

wow, OP is a jerk, nuf said...

Lithera

03-14-2011, 12:54 AM

Maybe the OP is living in some Vault-Tech vault where the experiment is you don't have food and water access if you're not playing a game 24/7? Anyways be glad they have said that atm this is just for a week. Though I do personally doubt the electric shortages will mostly if not all be fixed after a week. SE is a company and know that they will be loosing money the longer the servers down and that those like myself who have a merge sometime down the line are having it pushed back even more now which for some causes some stress. So, yes the push back of the update and merge is a little annoying for some along with not being able to play; but I would rather have them take as much time needed to help out the power grid so that more important things can have the power they need. Along with SE knowing that there will be a higher chance of the servers not going down due to any black outs.
Oh and I would be 100% for an in game item that would be a sort of memorial type thing, that we could get to show our support. Especially for those who might not be able to donate money via other means at this time.

Savannah

03-14-2011, 01:01 AM

Atleast they're not being complete jerkfaces and putting out charges in April.

Wenceslao

03-14-2011, 01:02 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

Hell guy, they are in a difficult time now, there are more important things in live than Final Fantasy, if they are turning off the servers for a week, it is because the country has requested to keep electric power usage at minimun, playing a game is nothing important compared to other things they can use there with electricity, don't be a dumbass and try to get some emphaty to those there...

Koroma

03-14-2011, 01:13 AM

Unaisis

03-14-2011, 01:13 AM

This Thread should be locked and the thread starter banned.

Malulani

03-14-2011, 01:20 AM

I agree with the responses to this post. Being in emergency management, the most frustrating thing is trying to save and preserve life with inconsistent power sources! We all have lives outside the game. Use this time to get in touch with REAL life, go outside and thank your lucky stars that you can do this as an option, not because you have to.

Gropitou

03-14-2011, 01:21 AM

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Japan and all those worldwide affected by the earthquake and it's tsunami.

That said, what a crock to shut down the game!!! Calamities happen every day somewhere, some more devastating to the local population than others. However, we are told over and over in their own publicity that SE is a global enterprise with major centers to serve their 3 main areas of gameplay: Japan, North America and Europe. So how about proving it and transfering game control to your servers either in the US or Europe and allowing your paying customers to continue on with their gaming lives. I seriously doubt the game would grind to a halt had this calamity occured in the west coast of the the US (earthquake or volcano). No, they would have put out some cute sympathy article and everyone not in the affected areas would continue on without interruption. Ever hear of mirror servers so backup sites can take over the workload should the main site be affected?

Will our monthly bill be reduced by 25% to compensate for this voluntary worldwide interruption of service, I doubt it as Final Fantasy customers outside Japan usually seem to be second class citizens. (ok didnt totally read SE notice b4 writing that part, my bad)

Furisouls

03-14-2011, 01:22 AM

Fully agree with Square Enix's actions here.

Furisouls' respect for SE skill rises 0.5

A friend suggested this last night:

Donate what you would have paid for April to a disaster relief fund. The Red Cross has been very prevalent, but there are quite a few places that are also offering relief. Or, you can wait until April 1 and do it then - they will need relief for more than just the immediate future.

Good idea indeed.

Lithera

03-14-2011, 01:23 AM

Raesvelg

03-14-2011, 01:26 AM

stuff

Do you people not READ or something? They've already come right out and said that they will not be billing for April.

shizbgby

03-14-2011, 01:26 AM

*Points to sig, if it shows*

Kimiko

03-14-2011, 01:27 AM

Fully agree with Square Enix's actions here.

Furisouls' respect for SE skill rises 0.5

Good idea indeed.

You know that is a damn good idea right there! I'd be in full support of this. =D

Mirage

03-14-2011, 01:29 AM

This topic is odviously one-sided, while i feel bad for the japanese part of me agrees with the OP.
If it were an american company and the gov "kindly asked" them to shut down power they would have told them to suck a rail-road spike were still getting paid.

The US can much more easily get access to power from other areas than Japan can. Japan is a small (in area) island nation who can't get power from other nations as easily as mainland nations. And for all we know, what they call "asked nicely to stop using power" in the official statements might have been something that was much more like a direct order from the government.

And you're still not taking into account that even if there was enough power to run the servers now and then, would you really want to play a game where you got DCed every half an hour because the SE servers lost power for a little while? This server park they've got might not boot back up and be ready to run in just a few seconds after complete power loss, after all.

It's not an issue of SE not being able to afford the power, it's an issue of there not being enough power in total to power the entire nation. It doesn't matter how much you tell the government to "stick it", you can't magically make electricity out of nowhere, and thus, you're going to get brownouts.

And yes, I do believe that if the US declared a state of emergency, they could take power from whoever they wanted to power hospitals and other critical infrastructure.

Lexin

03-14-2011, 01:36 AM

Solution for all you complaining about the servers going down. QUIT THE GAME! Honestly how are you going to complain about the servers being down for a week with what is going on over in Japan.

Slowly losing faith in humanity... >.>

Kimikryo

03-14-2011, 01:41 AM

The only thing were I agree with OP
3 days later shutting down. I really was surprised that I could log on.. and yesterday pissed at myself for going to bed instead of leveling some more.

I will miss the game, during the few free hours I will have this week, but I fully understand it.

Randwolf

03-14-2011, 01:43 AM

Will our monthly bill be reduced by 25% to compensate for this voluntary worldwide interruption of service, I doubt it as Final Fantasy customers outside Japan usually seem to be second class citizens.
Let me know when you feel like an ass. (Hint: read PoL's site for information about how we won't be charged April 1 for an entire month.)

SHARP-OAK

03-14-2011, 01:45 AM

Well mr. hordecore all i can say is "Open mouth insert foot" that is one of the most stupid comments ive ever seen , i really hope you are a kid 11-14 yrs old and dont truly understand what is goin on around you.After goin thru hurricane Katrina i know what its like to totally be without , i mean totally. I didnt even make the connection that we might have to give up the game for a bit , all i saw was devastation & my mind quickly went back to my experiences. Even after the initial shock i still didnt conn the two eathquake + Japan = loss of game.I play this game everyday & will miss it too but its not "MY WORLD" !!! Sounds like you need to go AFK for a bit. Go throw a football or frisbee hang w/ your family do something productive for a change. I know for me every night will be movie night w/ my kids not just "Saturday Night" movie night. They'll be happy so will I.

Randwolf

03-14-2011, 01:47 AM

Actually I think a US company could get in trouble law wise if the same thing happened on the west coast. Not sure what or how exactly but I'm sure it would be equal to whatever happen in the case you're burning a fire without a burn permit during a burn ban issued during a severe drought. Just that it would obviously be on a higher scale and maybe even more costly money wise
During a state of emergency, individuals and companies rights are temporarily placed on hold to ensure the good of the general populace. Not only would a company that refused to follow emergency decrees face serious criminal penalties, the backlash from consumers who found that company's behavior self-serving would more than cause them to lose more revenue in the long-run.

Lithera

03-14-2011, 02:15 AM

Thanks for making me sure that I was not making up laws that come in play during disasters. I knew something existed just was not sure exactly what that was or how it worked.

rog

03-14-2011, 02:15 AM

As someone who was more annoyed about Gosick being delayed than everyone who died, had their home destroyed, etc, i can't believe someone made this thread.

Fallenone

03-14-2011, 02:17 AM

OP you are 99.9% what is wrong with the world. You are a selfish self-centered little worm.

Why don't you take a look at this http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm and get a look at what's really going on over there. This is the worst disaster they've experienced since WWII.

People are dead, people are trapped, some people are without food and/or water. They are dealing with rolling mandatory blackouts now. I would rather SE shut the servers down and the people of Japan could get electricty for cooking and heat and things they need. You are a horrible excuse for a human being.

MOST of us players would rather SE shut the servers down for a while for the better of humanity over there. Don't worry you'll see your damn tarutaru/Galka/Elvaan/Mithra/Hume soon enough. If you're worried about not being able to perform self-gratifying acts without seeing mithras running around... try real porn for a change.

Or better yet crawl back into the hole you came from.

Some of us have real live friends over there we are worried about and have not heard from. Some of us have real live friends over there we have heard from but they are still dealing with a lot right now, while you sit in your comfy house without a care in the world. I agree with a previous poster, you should be sent over there to help clean up.

To Be Honest...I would rather be there with them then here having to listen to total morons like you!!

Snowblower

03-14-2011, 02:22 AM

Wow. Your and idiot.

Mirage

03-14-2011, 02:24 AM

hey what's wrong with wanting to see mithras running around?

Moink

03-14-2011, 02:26 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

I think when the servers do go back online that your account remains inactive... However, I would think SE will be the better half of this and allow you to put that needle back in your vien so hard it bleeds... Step foot outside and get rid of some of that paleness.

Alhanelem

03-14-2011, 02:27 AM

I'm rather sickened by the OP; You really expect datacenter staff to stick around to push the off buttons and shut everything down when a natural disaster is in progress?

Use the next week to realign yourself with real life.

Gadanae

03-14-2011, 02:28 AM

FOR GOD SAKES SE PLEASE READ AND COMPLY WITH WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IN THIS POST.

We have to log into FFXI forums with our account info, so please, take the starter of this post and ANYONE else who even TRIES to whine about not being able to play this game for a week, possibly more, AND GET RID OF THEM FROM FFXI FOREVER. Thank you.

I honestly mean this, people like this are exactly like bugs when they hit your windshield. Their brains are in their ass. Please for the the love of God, get rid of these selfish, pig-headed, morons.

I think it would be an awesome thing if when they do turn the servers on.... "oops, you're Umbrion? sorry we lost your account info.... <click>". And the same to any other idiot who is angry with SE for placing human life over someone's game addiction.

Thank you.

Selzak

03-14-2011, 02:33 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

Dear OP,

Grow up.

Sincerely, Down to Earth.

ValronXI

03-14-2011, 02:39 AM

this actually works out... my girlfriend has the next week of work off for her birthday and i was trying to think of a way not to ignore her and play ffxi....

thank you natural disasters :P

you saved my relationship

Siviard

03-14-2011, 02:39 AM

To the OP, and Groupitou.......there will be a special place in hell for the both of you. Seriously, you two need to go step in front of a bullet train or something. The removal of you two from this plane of existence will make the world a much better place.

My sincerest sympathies to the people of Japan. I was amazed at the amount of destruction and the pictures/videos of the devastation. I fully understand the reasoning behind SE's decision to shut down the servers for a week, and I fully support the decision.

Zeo

03-14-2011, 02:55 AM

If they can ban someone from the game for "troll" posts on here, surely they can do the same for incessant QQing about the server outage. Though they could more or less fall under the same category.

People like this only serve to perpetuate the fallacy that we gamers are too far disconnected from reality to care about this kind of thing. If a period of downtime due to something beyond anyone's control, then you've got bigger problems than who beats you to claiming Gukumatz/Heqet/whatever.

JagerForrester

03-14-2011, 03:12 AM

Wah wah, you go live in the disaster. See how you like playing FFXI with a house on top of you, literally crushing your insensitive brain.

Runespider

03-14-2011, 03:12 AM

Most of you raging on OP have lead very sheltered lives, really he didn't even say anything bad. Just an addicted MMO player locked out of the game he wants to play, most of the people replying will be thinking the exact same thing by the end of the week when it's extended.

Slowly losing faith in humanity... >.>

If you lived in a country where you weren't babied and get pretty much everything you want with rights out the wazoo you would see just how horrible and harsh humanity really is, this post making you lose faith in it is a joke compared to what actually goes on every single day.

If this is the worst you've seen you ain't seen nothing, people are capable of the worst most horrible uncaring acts imaginable. Go live in a 3rd world country for a while, that'll give you a whole other outlook on how horrendous people can truely be.

Ilax

03-14-2011, 03:12 AM

Just wow you guy are horrible at life...

this actually works out... my girlfriend has the next week of work off for her birthday and i was trying to think of a way not to ignore her and play ffxi....

thank you natural disasters :P

you saved my relationship

Seriously go delete that shit, and hope we all forget about such of horrible comment.

Mojohand

03-14-2011, 03:15 AM

Either the OP was a troll (and I'm not taking the bait) or an imbecile (and I'm not going to lend credence to his post with a direct response).

The shutdown, to me, reemphasized the inarguable, immutable fact that FFXI is a game, an amusement and folly that exists nowhere other than SE's cluster of servers. Those who forget that fact, and cling to FFXI as though it were something real and meaningful, do so at their own peril.

Honestly, I felt creepy playing during the period between the earthquake and the shutdown, knowing that all hell was breaking loose outside the server on which my placid little fantasy world resided.

With an appropriate adjustment in billing, of course, I wouldn't mind SE shutting the game down for a week every quarter: players could reconnect with their lives and SE could work on the game and infrastructure without the pressure of five-nines uptime. The only downside I could see is that once some players are forced to find another diversion -- or, perhaps, rediscover reality -- they may not come back to the game.

Just my $0.02...

Pixiehawk

03-14-2011, 03:17 AM

Some facts here.

Size of Japan : 145,925 square miles
Size of California : 163,696 square miles

So the country is a little bit smaller than the state of California, and they can not just drive across the border into another state, or borrow electricity from their neighboring states easily. I'm sure they can do so, but I'm sure the grid across country lines is no where near as extensive as it is over state lines.

Populations:

California : 37,253,956
Japan : 127,360,000 (yes, that's almost over 3x)
Tokyo : over 30,000,000 (so yes, almost as many people as the entire state of California, in the city and it's suburbs)

With those numbers just imagine how much more power Japan uses than California does. I'm sorry, my time in FFXI is in no way, shape or form more important that a hospital that I'm sure is overwhelmed in Japan right now. Nobodies time in a video game is more important than that.

The quake that hit Japan on the 11th was a 8.9 or a 9.0

The Northridge earthquake in 1994 was a 6.7 (the quake in japan was over 100x more powerful) and caused $20 billion dollars damage. 11 hospitals had to move their patients elsewhere and overburden the hospitals that were still operational. Freeways were collapsed making travel difficult (but not impossible). And there was no Tsunami after.

Japan needs every bit of power it can get to help those hurt in the quake and tsunami - and then to help make sure something like the Valley Fever breakout that happened after the Northridge quake does not happen there.

If it turns out they need to keep the servers down longer than a week I'm fine with that. Until they can say for certain that my playing time will not cause a power outtage due to the disruption caused by the quake/tsunami where a single person would be hurt in any way I say keep the servers down.

Ilax

03-14-2011, 03:19 AM

Most of you raging on OP have lead very sheltered lives, really he didn't even say anything bad. Just an addicted MMO player locked out of the game he wants to play,

OP do not deserve any kind of service from japan in any near of future, also note the lack of apologize from him after this post... He clearly show no sympathy to anyone except his own self-person.

I really hope his account get ban and make him find the time to discover the real world around him.

most of the people replying will be thinking the exact same thing by the end of the week when it's extended.
Even if game would die due to this disaster, i would not complain... Seriously, i hope this week break will set back people mind...

FFS, can any MOD lock this thread.

NightDagger

03-14-2011, 03:26 AM

WOW, All I can possibly think is that the OP is an RMT & afraid that he will not make enough money selling Gil in two of his games that he will not be able to pay his bills. It is the only reasonable explanation for him to think this way. I could care less if I can't play FF for a month cause of the current situation. take you time coming back SE we will all be here for the return & understand that there is alot of more important things going on then worrying about getting your servers back up & running.

Psykotic

03-14-2011, 03:32 AM

i have no problem with them shutting down for a week, there is more important things to power then some silly server like hospitals and temp housing for displaced families. besides when they do bring servers back i should have atleast 21 more traverse stones to waste farming in they crack zone of abyssea.

Alhanelem

03-14-2011, 03:40 AM

(the quake in japan was over 100% more powerful)Each whole number increase in the Richter scale is a tenfold increase in power over the number before it (it's a logarithmic scale). a 8.9 is a lot more than 100% more powerful.

Nicholiathan

03-14-2011, 03:48 AM

Isn't the OP the troll also known as Chinafarmer over at the zam formus?

Pixiehawk

03-14-2011, 03:48 AM

6.7 -> 8.9 is just over 2 whole points.

10X then 10 X again is 100 x right?

it's been a hella long times since hs. ; ;

Hyperon

03-14-2011, 03:51 AM

To anyone who things Japan is being selfish, dumb, or any other negative comment about shutting down FFXI for a while

Yes your right, bad things happen everyday to a lot of people who do not deserve it and no1 say anything from JPs side or whatever you think they should do because of said horrible thing. So your right on that one small, very small sense.

Now how wrong you are goes as followed. They are having mini earthquakes repeatedly still going on, they have no stable and true functioning power grid, their nuclear power plant is getting coolant from other nations, to my knowledge a lot of places are still underwater, also to my knowledge more water is coming in, and a lot of people are missing and I do mean a lot.

I think they deserve a break, a pat on a back, and someone to say "You need some help?"

P.S. Also I am sure there is a lot more that has been happening but I have been busy myself for 2 days so I am sure I missed the most recent updates for whats going on atm.

Hoshi

03-14-2011, 03:54 AM

Depending on a lot of things this could last longer than a week, possibly a lot longer.

I heard some people saying that XI might be down for a month? I do wonder how likely that will be.

Hyperon

03-14-2011, 03:56 AM

Geebee

03-14-2011, 04:05 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

Why does it not surprise me that yet another sad pointless CRETIN cannot fathom the devestation caused by this event, I cannot begin to imagine the trauma and worry the people of japan are going through right now my heart goes out to you............... I just hope that one day this poor sad and lonely individual as well as anyone else who feels the same will reflect on what has happened, just for a moment................ and realise how fortunate they are not to be a victim.

HAVE SOME RESPECT YOU F#=@ING LOWLIFE!!!

Gaspee

03-14-2011, 04:06 AM

Square Enix's decision to shut down the game servers is bold, courageous, and worthy of respect. I urge my fellow players to embrace this decision, and allow Square Enix to assist Japan in any way it can. Criticizing a decision to shut down a game so others can have electricity during a natural disaster is absolutely incomprehensible.

hiko

03-14-2011, 04:07 AM

6.7 -> 8.9 is just over 2 whole points.

10X then 10 X again is 100 x right?

it's been a hella long times since hs. ; ;
yes but 100% more powerful is not 100 * more powerfull,it is 2*

Pufardo

03-14-2011, 04:09 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

I'm sure that there were procedures in place that led to this decision. They probably weighed their energy consumption to make sure that it was valid that they shut down the servers. You can't expect them to shut everything down with a split second decision.

For the OP: You seam like a little kid with too much time on your hands... and ignorant.

Pixiehawk

03-14-2011, 04:11 AM

yes but 100% more powerful is not 100 * more powerfull,it is 2*egads. I'm an idiot today.

ValronXI

03-14-2011, 04:12 AM

Just wow you guy are horrible at life...

Seriously go delete that shit, and hope we all forget about such of horrible comment.

im going to saythis quick and sum up alot of points in one short statement.

I live in america, we are sending support to japan.

when has ANY country sent support to help us? when has ANY country came to OUR aide in a time of natural disaster?

Hurrican Katrina? nah didnt think ANYONYONE sent aide to help us.

dont troll me over not being involved in any of this. i could give a care less what thier status of their nuclear reactors are.

for all i care let em meltdown and blow up.

they will have to learn how to plan for such other emergencies.

dont post anything saying i dont care. it sucks boo hoo move someplace else where your not affected so rebuilding can begin.

Just because it does not effect me, i dont HAVE to care.

I dont see anyone caring about my financial / personal problems when im in trouble.

GTFO and Grow up please.

EDIT: dont say i dont have any empathy either. i just could care less

Leknaat

03-14-2011, 04:14 AM

I was rather shocked that the game was still working after the quake. Amazing how resiliant the Japanese communication infrastructure is.

The reason why the servers were able to run is due to a few factors.
- Power reserves (which are now exhausted)
- It was the weekend so the power consumption via industries would not be so high
- They were expecting to be able to bring the reactors that had automatically shut down back up (not watch them overheat and inch towards a partial meltdown)

I'm going to be bored all week, but my boredom is pretty unimportant given what's going on in Japan right now. Earthquake. Tsunami. Nuclear disaster. Most nations would be overwhelmed with just ONE of those happening let alone all three. I say SE did the morally/socially responsible thing and respect them all the more for it.

Gadanae

03-14-2011, 04:15 AM

To those that call me a troll simply because it makes me angry that people even in a small way think a game is more important then real life, all you do is prove me correct. Block me if you like, but i'm a brash person and will speak my mind whether anyone likes it or not. Yes, I have suggested SE ban people that have whined about this server downtime, and for good reason. These people are more then likely the very same people that whine and cry when they don't get a drop in-game before others.... or when something doesn't go their way. People like this are a plague not only in the game of FFXI, but leeches that take what is good in life and destroy it for their own gain. It makes me angry that people put themselves before people that are dead, and the families that don't even know where their loved ones that are missing may be. The best punishment for you would be to be made to go through the horror of what they are going through right now. And I certainly wish that upon you.

They are selfish, ignorant jerks. And someone needs to tell em off.

So if I'm a troll because I stick my neck out to tell people off that NEED to be told off. So be it. I'm a troll then.

Pixiehawk

03-14-2011, 04:15 AM

im going to saythis quick and sum up alot of points in one short statement.

I live in america, we are sending support to japan.

when has ANY country sent support to help us? when has ANY country came to OUR aide in a time of natural disaster?

Hurrican Katrina? nah didnt think ANYONYONE sent aide to help us.

dont troll me over not being involved in any of this. i could give a care less what thier status of their nuclear reactors are.

for all i care let em meltdown and blow up.

they will have to learn how to plan for such other emergencies.

dont post anything saying i dont care. it sucks boo hoo move someplace else where your not affected so rebuilding can begin.

Just because it does not effect me, i dont HAVE to care.

I dont see anyone caring about my financial / personal problems when im in trouble.

GTFO and Grow up please.

EDIT: dont say i dont have any empathy either. i just could care lessWrong.

The Japanese Foreign Ministry said that it would provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina. Japan also identified needs in affected regions via the U.S. government and provided up to $300,000 in emergency supplies such as tents, blankets and power generators if they receive requests from the U.S. for such assistance. One Japanese individual, Takashi Endo, donated USD 1 million from his personal funds to Katrina relief efforts.[13]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

And Japan was not the only one, I only quoted their part because we are talking about Japan here.

ValronXI

03-14-2011, 04:18 AM

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

And Japan was not the only one, I only quoted their part because we are talking about Japan here.

touche~

not longer than ten characters......

and edit: i could care less about the servers being down.

rebuild / revamp / restore

go on with life.

:goes back to d2:

Gadanae

03-14-2011, 04:19 AM

ValronXI

03-14-2011, 04:22 AM

And this asshole proves the point of my last post.

<3 yooooou toooo

Amerlyn

03-14-2011, 04:24 AM

I think what SE is doing is right. I support them 100%. Even if the game never returns (completely unlikely) I will continue to support them in this.

I recently went through a disaster of my own (house fire on christmas). So I can somewhat understand what some people are going through in Japan. This isn't a time for people to be thinking of themselves (so to the poster and anyone else who agrees with him.. STOP BEING SELFISH!). SE is just thinking of what Japan NEEDs right now. They need to conserve power for hospitals, for shelters (for those who lost homes), for food storage units.. etc..

On a side note. I am not surprised at people's selfishness. I've seen them do it in game. I was hoping it was just limited to in game. I see it is not. But something for those people to think on, and SE somewhat notes it EVERY time u log in. Do not forget family/friends/job. In otherwords: This game is not EQUAL and never will be EQUAL in VALUE to a HUMAN life... So stop thinking about the game!

Sorry I am known for my ranting. And selfishness (especilly in a time like this) really sets me off. I could go on, but then I would lose topic (if i havent already).

JagerForrester

03-14-2011, 04:25 AM

I'll repeat myself. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you let a natural disaster that's happening on top of your house take your own life with a controller in hand? Personally I'd drop the controller immediately and find safety. My life's more important than this game, and the employees are reacting to the same reason I'd dropped the controller.

krazybean

03-14-2011, 04:27 AM

mother earth > your 90blm's ::end troll::

Hyperon

03-14-2011, 04:29 AM

Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

And Japan was not the only one, I only quoted their part because we are talking about Japan here.

To add this Mexico, a lot of central american, south america, and so many other countries sent aid to the US at that time.
Also if you have financial troubles, WTF are you doing playing and paying for FFXI!
To add to that as well. Your playing the wrong game if you don't give a shit about another country. As much as I liked FFXI. They cater to japans needs and japanese players because...the people who created and maintain this game...IS FUCKING JAPANESE!. If you want a game who caters to americans....I dont know...go play a game that is in america you retard. Go play WoW or runescape or Rift (I think thats US). If your pissed off that the japanese who maintain this game are worried about other japanese during a japan related nation problem, there is something wrong with you in the head that goes beyond empathy or not caring. Your just the next level of idiocy I am still amazed to see use a computer.

All this is directed at Valtron XI, not Pixiehawk. I just didnt want to edit out the quote, plus she made a valid point after she said wrong.

Go delete your character Valtron and +1Pixiehawk

CrystalWeapon

03-14-2011, 04:33 AM

From the posts in this thread I'm glad to see that 90%+ of the people posting actually understand that

(people > videogame)

I support se in this decision and hope that the worst is behind Japan. I agree with the previous posts, if you honestly are this outraged that you won't be able to play XI, go in and uninstall the game so I'll never have the displeasure of meeting you. Rationalize it any way you like, but the "I want XI now" mentality is selfish and ignorant.

Miitan

03-14-2011, 04:34 AM

Successful troll is successful.

myrla-elphaba

03-14-2011, 04:37 AM

I understand that your post said "I don't think" - I am just trying to educate you.

http://www.america.gov/st/washfile-english/2005/September/20050915165123ajesrom9.768313e-02.html

"If the saying "a friend in need is a friend indeed" is true, Japan is one of the best friends the United States ever could have to provide support while so many Americans are suffering in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.... Japan has pledged more than $1.5 million in private donations. The government of Japan has donated $200,000 in cash to the American Red Cross and some $800,000 in relief supplies -- from blankets to generators -- already are arriving to aid the most needy. Japanese firms with operations in the United States have donated some $12 million in total, including Honda Motor Corporation ($5 million), Hitachi ($1 million) and Nissan (more than $750,000). "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

"The Japanese Foreign Ministry said that it would provide $200,000 to the American Red Cross to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina. Japan also identified needs in affected regions via the U.S. government and provided up to $300,000 in emergency supplies such as tents, blankets and power generators if they receive requests from the U.S. for such assistance. One Japanese individual, Takashi Endo, donated USD 1 million from his personal funds to Katrina relief efforts.[13]"

~

I would also like to say - people wishing ill on other people, telling them to go off themselves and such is fairly morally repugnant as well. Education and understanding (ok, trying to spread them ... people have to want to learn) are more important at this time. I'm a big believer in Karma, and Karma will iron out problems on its own.

Canadian

03-14-2011, 04:48 AM

I tried logging into the real world today, it wasn't so fun. I attacked a raccoon in an attempt to learn some blue magic, it didn't go so well. After one day of FFXI shutdown, I am going crazy. :S

Chiibi

03-14-2011, 04:49 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

I took part in aid services today and yesterday how DARE you whine about a video game when people have died?

Ilax

03-14-2011, 04:52 AM

Rolling blackouts of three hours are expected to last until the end of April and will affect the Tokyo, Kanagawa, Shizuoka, Yamanashi, Chiba, Ibaraki, Saitama, Tochigi, and Gunma prefectures.

Expect more then 1 week. If you read info on wiki is terrible... I have feeling that is just the top of iceberg =( They still trying avoid melt down form 2 reactor. They keep evacuate citizen (they at 340,000 now) They already facing citizen contaminated by radiation =( They evacuated 12km(7mi) then 20 km(12mi) and 60km(36mi) radius.

As speed info get updated, the crisis is just going up....

Vangoh

03-14-2011, 04:52 AM

Ilax

03-14-2011, 04:55 AM

LMAO You guys....do you realize that whoever started this thread has no minimal interest to see what you have replied? He has not replied to his own post. So this thread was just a mere attempt to piss people off. We can all agree that what he said was very unappropriated so you're all just venting off your anger and despair about this matter to pretty much an invisible troll.

Personally i am not only venting but also voice myself to get this tool ban of the game.

Angelsasuke

03-14-2011, 04:56 AM

In general,

If you have any hard feelings about shut down you should kill yourself instead of making other people tolerate your exsistence.

If you are complaining of not having anything to do maybe should try making some friends or connecting with family and leave FFXI alone alot longer than a week.

A week is just the estimated time and it can extend longer just sayin to all those who seem to be hurt by the week it could be longer. Its just a GAME, you know FANTASY.

As far as ingame item to help with donation for people who cant do it any other way i think that would be a awesome idea. Comon SE we all want(or at least most) flag for MH.

As and far as faith in humanity.... I havent had any for a longtime, so this post doesnt drop it any. Ignorance is the least painful of the things humanity does to dissapoint me, so i have to very much agree with that part that someone said earlier. This is not to be confused with saying there are no good people in the world, its just sayin when lumped together they aren't enough to raise faith in humanity to 1.0.

I hope people take the advice.

To SE: Take as long as you need the real people come before the Game.

To the people of Japan: you have my sympathy and condolences, may you find strength and the will to carry on.

Canadian

03-14-2011, 04:57 AM

LMAO You guys....do you realize that whoever started this thread has no minimal interest to see what you have replied? He has not replied to his own post. So this thread was just a mere attempt to piss people off. We can all agree that what he said was very unappropriated so you're all just venting off your anger and despair about this matter to pretty much an invisible troll.

Or maybe the starter of this thread has no interest about complications in Japan and just wants to play FFXI as badly as some of us do. Dare we all go play WoW?!? <.<;

Hyperon

03-14-2011, 04:58 AM

I am just killing time while I head to work. Which is what I am doing now. Still I like to think I can manage positivity to the internet reguardless of pointlessness.

Canadian

03-14-2011, 05:02 AM

If you are complaining of not having anything to do maybe should try making some friends or connecting with family and leave FFXI alone alot longer than a week.

To a lot of us, this is not easy. Some of us aren't lucky enough to have family. I don't know about everyone else but all my friends play World of Warcraft and hate FFXI. I'm the blacksheep of the friend circle cause I hate WoW and love FFXI. lol

To SE: Take as long as you need the real people come before the Game.

If you've been travelling throughout Vana'diel for three to nine years, it is no longer a game. You don't 'play' Final Fantasy XI, you live it! :)

Chiibi

03-14-2011, 05:06 AM

If you've been travelling throughout Vana'diel for three to nine years, it is no longer a game. You don't 'play' Final Fantasy XI, you live it! :)

.... its called an addicition. take this time to have that checked out.

JagerForrester

03-14-2011, 05:07 AM

If you've been travelling throughout Vana'diel for three to nine years, it is no longer a game. You don't 'play' Final Fantasy XI, you live it! :)

Doesn't make it any more real life than real life.

Fiarlia

03-14-2011, 05:08 AM

Anyone who's angry at this seriously needs to go die in a fire and get all burninated.

Freaking self-centered idiots.

deathgod

03-14-2011, 05:08 AM

we actually had a massive arguement in port jeuno on asura about this an hour before servers went down. some ppl are insesitve and very offensive. i will not name names but lets say they were so offensive that 80% of ppl in port jeuno made gms calls. infact there where so many that the gms couldnt even respond in tells. i got a messege saying that there were so many that the gms would have to handle w/o talking to me in tells. some ppl need to take thier heads out of thier rears and look around. the world does not revolve around you and your play time. there are ppl in japan that are dead and dieing, dozens of cases if not hundreds of cases of radiation posioning, possible multiple nuclear meltdowns, ppl in need of hospitals, and shelters. alll u care about is ur play time. ppl like you should be ashamed and SE should delete ur accounts when servers come back up.

Zener

03-14-2011, 05:09 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

You are an idiot. A moron. A selfish little beetle who does not deserve to be playing this game. If a week without FFXI is going to cause a personal armageddon, you need to sit back and reevaluate the way your live your life. Japan is going through one of the worse crisis in recent history and you are worried about not being able to play for a week. As far as I'm concerned, they need to keep the servers and related services/equipment down until they have enough electricity to properly serve them in addition to the emergency services and medical facilities that need the power more. Jerk.

Zener

03-14-2011, 05:13 AM

Pufardo

03-14-2011, 05:22 AM

The company I work for has, on more than one occasion, reduced electrical usage and even shut down if requested by our power supplier in order to prevent brownouts or rolling blackouts. We tend to look at the bigger picture.

And... I'm sure there's another monetary upside to that as well when re-negotiating their power contract and reducing their rates.

Cylla

03-14-2011, 05:24 AM

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

Cry a river.

Hate to see what happens when (and if. I'm pretty sure they'll be down for more then a week) SE says the servers are going to be down another few weeks after this week has passed. All the little anti-socials will cut themselves. Oh well, selfish people will be selfish people.

Zener

03-14-2011, 05:29 AM

And... I'm sure there's another monetary upside to that as well when re-negotiating their power contract and reducing their rates.

No negotiating power contracts. We pay the electric bill when it comes in no matter what it is. We use a lot of power but not enough to justify negotiating rates. I wish we could, but we can't. The thing that really kills us with the power bill is the fuel adjustment charges that go up and down based on the cost of the fuel needed to run the generators at the power generating plant. If we don't pay the bill, they turn off the power.