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[Mephie]

Both new bloodpacts are just marked by a "." and say "...A command error occurred." when you try to use them.

[Camate]

We are going to look into this and get back to you as soon as we can! :)

[Xilk]

The same is true for bst ready moves.

[Prothscar]

Still broken after today's test server update.

[Camate]

I checked to see if there was the possibility of a bug, but it doesn't seem like this is the case. I suggest to re-install the test server client and see if the problem is fixed.

[Alhanelem]

This seems to be happening to everybody though.

[Sharnak]

I test and use files check to check all files and it's seem not fix anything. All Bst's pet , New jug pet's name and SMN's BP all appear as "."

[Zubis]

Given that it's reported by ten or so people now I'm fairly certain it is a bug.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17105-New-Summoner-Blood-Pacts-don-t-work.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17089-new-update-bugs

[Kitkat]

I checked to see if there was the possibility of a bug, but it doesn't seem like this is the case. I suggest to re-install the test server client and see if the problem is fixed.

I hope you are talking about the updated content we aren't seeing on test server until next patch? Currently this and several jugs are not properly translated (November 25th patch) leading to command errors when trying to use them.

[Camate]

I will see what else I can find out, just give me a tiny bit of time. Apologies that you all are unable to test out these abilities.

[Kitkat]

I will see what else I can find out, just give me a tiny bit of time. Apologies that you all are unable to test out these abilities.

Well, just to be certain I'm also installing the test server on a secondary drive in a new directory just to be certain it isn't an problem where the patch made things wonky. If it ends up remedying the issue I'll post back, but this is going to be the 2nd time I've reinstalled the client and patched it up to 25th patch.

[Camate]

We are going to be updating the test server again tonight, so once that takes place, if this problem still persists I will hunt down some answers. In the meantime, just sit tight and please let me know what happens after you all update again. Sorry for the inconvenience!

[Kitkat]

We are going to be updating the test server again tonight, so once that takes place, if this problem still persists I will hunt down some answers. In the meantime, just sit tight and please let me know what happens after you all update again. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Sadly, after yet another fresh install, update, and all in a new directory location no change. Still only see "." for the new blood pact (see pic). Most certainly is not due to bad install unless the patch to us on the client has something significantly wrong from Dev's test client.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1452/brokestill.png


Edit: As a side note I am willing to believe it may be the patch itself too camate. This is only one of the various chat/text errors I have seen since that update. When I log out I don't see "Logging out" or /shutdown doesn't give "Logging out" message. Instead I see "Kaliyah gains 28800 experience points." Additionally, while I know magian trials were broke and noted on the server message, if you check them using our test client all of the items show up as something different. One Mandau trial I looked at said that the required item was "Fire sand" instead of "Mandau" and said I needed to perform 200 "Whisper of Ifrit" on an exp wielding mob and that my reward would be "."

Needless to say it seems as though there are several issues with the last update or two the test client has received.

[Alhanelem]

Just curious. If it is purely a client problem, perhaps using the /pet or /ja commands with the actual name of the BP in quotes might work.

[Vold]

Instead I see "Kaliyah gains 28800 experience points." I sure wish we'd see that go live someday :D

[Kitkat]

Just curious. If it is purely a client problem, perhaps using the /pet or /ja commands with the actual name of the BP in quotes might work.

Tried this just now, gave me a command error also as if the name didn't exist. Must be more than a simple text/chat error then. Since it is supposed to be a buff of some form I tried both <me> and <t> syntax. Know it wasn't an incorrect command macro since all other typed commands I use worked just fine as far as other pacts are concerned. Just not Heavenward Howl or Pavor Nocturnus.

[Rakshaka]

I've attempted to use the "/recast" command with the new blood pacts, but the game doesn't recognize the names. This is another way to help determine what's wrong. Try this after the upcoming patch.

[Xilk]

Just curious. If it is purely a client problem, perhaps using the /pet or /ja commands with the actual name of the BP in quotes might work.

I tried this on day 1, it gives the same error.

Oh, I see this was answered....

[Arcon]

Maybe a translation error? Missing translated names for these?

[Tarage]

Kinda sad when people are specifically reporting a bug and the dev's don't believe it.

What is the point of beta testing if you don't ever listen to the testers? Is this the level of customer support we can expect from SE?

[Kristal]

Kinda sad when people are specifically reporting a bug and the dev's don't believe it.

What is the point of beta testing if you don't ever listen to the testers? Is this the level of customer support we can expect from SE?

Seeing as you aren't testing yourself, why bother complaining? It's obviously a problem with (the English localisation of) the text resources, not the code itself.

[Sharnak]

Dear Camate actually it's very easy to track since many ppl already notice it's must occour form it's not have english text on these item yet. (Must be not translated or forget to put fixed dats files that have english detail in)
So many update so far how come still no any response form dev.team to fix it or SE not really willing to listen english player side response.?
Just JP player's response is already enough for SE?

and now it's happen to new WS as well, so what is really the point to have test server since everything that updated can't test?

[Rakshaka]

Tried to use the bloodpacts after the 11/30 update. They still have the same problems. They only show up as "." on the ward menus. Neither of the bloodpacts show up when using the "/recast" command. Also, all of the new weaponskills suffer from this same issue, they show up as "." and are unusable.

[Zubis]

Just confirming it still doesn't work for me either.

The issue seems to be only on the English Test Client - the Japanese and French versions seem fine apparently.

[Detoxy]

We are going to be updating the test server again tonight, so once that takes place, if this problem still persists I will hunt down some answers. In the meantime, just sit tight and please let me know what happens after you all update again. Sorry for the inconvenience!

still not workin camate think the english or NA players being left out

[sgtsagara]

yes still a problem cant use bst pet tp moves or the new weaponskills now. just keep getting command error.

[Camate]

We are aware of these issues and are escalating it to the development team. Once we hear concrete information, we'll be sure to post an update. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience and are working to get this resolved quickly so you can all try this new content out.

[Zubis]

Thanks Camate.

[Detoxy]

We are aware of these issues and are escalating it to the development team. Once we hear concrete information, we'll be sure to post an update. Again, we apologize for the inconvenience and are working to get this resolved quickly so you can all try this new content out.

Thank You Camate ;)

[Alhanelem]

This issue seems to be specific to the NA client. The other languages (french and german included) seem to be able to use the weaponskills (at least)

[Arcon]

For those who care, there's been a fix (two, actually) to this:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings?p=4915153&viewfull=1#post4915153

People make way too much of a fuss about this. Screaming racism because of a bug. Get over it.

[Alhanelem]

Just wondeirng: Is anyone else getting a crash when you go to the main menu and select Status then go to Profile?


People make way too much of a fuss about this. Screaming racism because of a bug. Get over it.Agree there.

So yeah; Camate: Let it be known-

The reason these things don't work is there are missing files that were not included in the test server version update.

after reading the above linked thread and downloding their stopgap fix, I went into the Final Fantasy XI Test Client/ROM/181/ folder and found that the file is not simply there but full of '.'s, but rather is completely missing. I see:
... 69.DAT, 70.DAT, 71.DAT, 73.DAT, 74.DAT ...

The problem seems to be simple: The 72.DAT file was missing from the version update file list.

[BenJuli]

Hello.

This will be a bit of a technical post, so for random readers on here, I apologize if you are not able to follow. Also, I am unsure if I am allowed to be posting this information on here, so if it's not allowed, I'm sorry, and please delete this post.

Anyway, with that out of the way. The actual problem here is that the dat file for the English Job ability names and descriptions have not been updated. (I can provide the exact file that's the culprit here if necessary, but I am refraining from posting it so that people don't try to modify it themselves.) All of the equivalent files for the other languages include the new names and descriptions, so there are no problems there.

So, because the files aren't updated, all of the new abilities are still using the blank placeholder "." name. Since this is the placeholder name for blank, unusable abilities, players are unable to actually use them, probably because the game is programmed to not allow you to use such blank abilities. (I assume. Or because /ja "." <t> errors out due to all of the blank abilities also being called ".", and it not knowing which one you're referring to.)

The easy way to fix this is to just update that one file with all of the names for the new abilities, so that they are usable. And for reference, this has been a common occurrence for all english files in the past few test server updates. Items are not translated, tons of quests, key items, pretty much everything, is untranslated. I realize some of this is due to constraints on your side, and that you want to get the content out for testing even though it hasn't been fully translated yet, but with abilities, it is a really big issue because untranslated ability names are not usable. (Although, this may actually not be intentional, because it seems that most of the time, the german and french files are all also updated at the same time, but the english ones aren't.)

Again, I apologize if this sort of information isn't supposed to be posted on here, and if it's inappropriate, please delete it. I am only posting this to help everyone out. You guys at SE, and all of the players trying to help test your new content.

-Julian

(I was actually going to post this in a new thread, but decided to just stick it in here. :))

[Alhanelem]

Oh please, don't crap up another thread. Shock and horror, it wasn't me this time!


Legitimate complaints are dismissed with 'working as intendedThat's because they ARE working as intended. The problem does lie in the fact that we might not have liked what was intended, but it's not like they're telling a lie or something.

On this specific issue, it was clearly an error made when the file list was sent to the content server for us to use to download the update files. Someone just made an error, and it was understandably difficult to find. Even if you knew it was a file missing (Many missing files cause crashes, the fact that this one didn't made it harder to catch), it would have been hard to trace down what file is missing, where it's located, etc. because most people wouldn't even think to look for a missing file. I must laud the efforts of the people who found a workaround.

But really Tarage: Are you just trying to get banned or something? Acting as you are and posting your anger in every thread you get your hands on is not any more of an effective way to express your current position than posting normally and allegedly being ignored. There is no racism. If they were really that racist they would never have released the game outside of japan in the first place.

BenJuli: Beat you to it, and a little more consisely. :p But at least for me, the file was just plain not there, rather than present but full of '.'s.

[BenJuli]

If those files weren't there for you at all, then there must have been some kind of error in your installation, because they were definitely included in the test server installation package. As for actually modified by the recent updates, probably not.

-Julian

[Alhanelem]

Downloading that file still fixed the problem for me.

The test server is going down now, so maybe they caught the problem finally.

[Rakshaka]

After the update this morning, the blood pacts are working correctly.

Heavenward Howl:
I tried this at 21% moon. My assumption would be that the buff given would be a "hp/mp drain" buff, and that the chance of HP absorption would be higher closer to full moon, and the chance of MP absorption would be higher closer to new moon. I buffed myself with it and proceeded to thwack crabs in Qufim. The only type of drain I ever got was MP drain. When I put the buff on myself, I got a single buff, but couldn't tell what it did because of there being no flavor text for the buff. It seems like the buff that I got wasn't an "hp/mp drain" buff, but just an "mp drain" buff because of the low moon phase. I can't be certain, but if this is the case then I think it's better than having a "hp/mp drain" buff that randomly drains either one; this would allow me to better plan when to use it. On the other hand, the MP drain side of this ability is worthless. I was getting 8-10 mp back per hit at 497 skill. I can only think of one job that would benefit from mp drain, BLU. PLD has enlight, and you cant have 2 enspells active. DRK has endark, the same thing applies. These jobs would prefer to have their enbuff over enaspir. BLU is the only job with mp that melees that doesn't have an enspell. It's the only job that this would be useful for in endgame situations (I'll say this so no one throws melee mage jobs at me as a counterargument). I would suggest removing the MP drain part of this ability completely, it's not strong enough (you'd think at 497 skill you'd get a decent return seeing as how ifrit's enfire does about 44 damage with that skill level), and it's not useful in endgame situations.

Pavor Nocturnus:
Aka Death. My first thoughts on this are that it's awsome, and a long time coming, especially after how Odin's 2hr death is lackluster (e.g. blow a ton of mp only to have another mob walk in the way, screw with his accuracy and end up missing the mob you were targeting initially). The great part about this ability is that we now have useful offensive ward pact (sorry Somnolence, you just aren't cutting it), so when it's time to pick a ward pact to use, and nothing else seems useful, we can slam this down for a chance at a KO. I havent tested it on NMs yet, but I need to stress this: this needs to be able to kill lower level NMs. I'm not talking about abyssea pop NMs, or HNMs. I'm talking about the dime-a-dozen worthless fodder mobs that are considered NMs in salvage, einherjar, etc. Either that, or stop labeling fodder mobs as NMs. It's annoying when you can't use Odin against lower level NMs in tough situations, simply because they're labeled as "NM"s.

[Camate]

Thank for you patience everyone. As some of you may have already noticed, the bug where these abilities and weapon skills were only listed as "." has been fixed and you can now test them out :)

[Cabalabob]

hmm, i'm still having some trouble, the abilitys are now appearing but the ability description is still a '.' when i use pavor nocturnus it has the animation but the sound effect is of whirl of rage and it misses, heavenward howl has the animation and the sound effect but the effect says 'gains the effect of (none)' and the status for it says DEBUG: please report.
I'm also still only getting the '.' in the description bar for the weapon skills

[Rakshaka]

The dev team originally said that the description and everything else like that aren't final yet; these things are to be expected. The issue was with the abilities being unusable.

Heavenward howl will provide a buff that also has these issues. I'm assuming from testing that this is either an "endrain" buff or an "enaspir" buff seeing as how (so far) the buff has only let me drain MP (assuming that any moon below 50% is enaspir, and anything above is endrain)

Pavor Nocturnus is death with a low accuracy, so you'll see it miss sometimes. The sound effect for it is the sound of the Death spell. I agree this is similar to whirl of rage, but it is indeed the death sound effect.

[Alhanelem]

The descriptions are '.' in all versions I'm pretty sure. This isn't the English specific issue that the inability to use the abilities was.

Pavor Nocturnus seems to have a higher success rate if the target is asleep. It might also work more if the target is lower on HP, but I haven't really tested that. It also consumes TP, so it may or may not affect it

It's not too bad for a Ward, really. It's something you can use if someone has sleepga'd a bunch of monsters, to try to eliminate one of them quickly, without using a 2hour.

[BenJuli]

The descriptions are '.' in all versions I'm pretty sure. This isn't the English specific issue that the inability to use the abilities was.

No, the ability descriptions are actually available in all other languages: Japanese, French, and German. I do not understand why the English ones aren't being updated. At least, the names are translated now, so that they're at least usable and testable.

-Julian

edit: Thanks Camate for getting the issue resolved! I know my post here was probably too late to help resolve the problem in a speedy manner, but I hope that I may be able to help again in the future. =]

[Alhanelem]

For the record, on sleeping targets, I'm batting ~50% on monsters in sky. Don't know how much level of target plays in, though I know people have been missing on level 0 monsters as well, so it probably doesn't matter.

[Helel]

For the record, on sleeping targets, I'm batting ~50% on monsters in sky. Don't know how much level of target plays in, though I know people have been missing on level 0 monsters as well, so it probably doesn't matter.

Monsters in sky pretty much equal level 0 monsters in terms of testing magic accuracy... That's not very conclusive.

[Sevokevo]

Thank for you patience everyone. As some of you may have already noticed, the bug where these abilities and weapon skills were only listed as "." has been fixed and you can now test them out :)

Great Work Camate. One Less Thing people can stop raging about.