Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake

[Moink]

I didn't noticed yeah... you're right.... :/

There goes my optimism.....

The few they say about Daii-chi is what I mentioned earlier, about the explosion that breeched the roof of reactor #4.... that's the latest official news we had from that plant.

I heard on tv a little earlier this morning that they called in a U.S specialized team... was about time, I think. I hope that altogether they can avoid the worst, now. For the sake of all.

Hang in there, please.... hang in there.

Fukushima Daiichi Reactors 1,2 and 3 have had explosions. Reactor 1 and 3 are the cause of a build up of Hydrogen then trying to release that pressure failed. Those explosions helped relieve pressure on the containment fields and allow them to eventually cool with the addition of sea water and boric acid. Leaving those two reactors with partial meltdowns.

Reactor 2 did have an explosion but didn't blow it's top like 1 or 3 and thats where the majority of the concern resides. Because the explosion wasn't similar it may have damaged the containment field and because pressure level have dropped within the core it is believed that a full meltdown that has occured and the addition of sea water and boric acid are failing because the core is too hot for the amount of water being added.

INES level is now to be believed to be level 6 "Serious accident" making it the second worst nuclear disaster within the plant but not the first level 6 disaster

[Moink]

The only thing to have happened to reactor 4 are two fires but that reactor was shutdown, as well as reactor 5 and 6, for safety inspections the day prior of the earthquake. Those reactors would be safe from any meltdown.

[RAIST]

Another quake detected...plant 1 evacuating more...man.. these guys just can't catch a break over there....

Raist

[Dreamers]

But it looks like the fires in Reactor4 may be where the spent fuel is stored which can be just as hazardous.

[Moink]

Another quake detected...plant 1 evacuating more...man.. these guys just can't catch a break over there....

Raist

Not to be negative but this is what TEPCO deserves for ****ing with not complying to safety at this site...

[Moink]

But it looks like the fires in Reactor4 may be where the spent fuel is stored which can be just as hazardous.

That is what has been told where the fires have occured... What makes that concerning is how those fires occurred

[RAIST]

found an online stream of NHK world news with english translation. It may be a bit delayed reporting, but some may be interested in following it, so thought I'd pass it along as well:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

Raist

[Dreamers]

Thanks for all the links and updates Raist

[Umbrion]

"players will not be billed for any PlayOnline service throughout the April billing cycle."

Think new or old you aren't gonna be paying for that month.

.. and really guys.. we can turn to any new channel to find out whats happening.. you don't have to repeat it here word for word.

[Moink]

You don't need to be a troll either ... but you are

[RAIST]

yeah..hoping to get more people more aware of what they are really going through over there...hoping it will cut back on some orf the whining thats running rampant here. Started a thread in the general forums with the links I've been checking on periodically myself. If I find more I'll just add them there. Maybe the mods will sticky it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2234-Sites-with-updated-information-on-the-Japan-Situation

Raist

[pasnger57]

I believe most of us FF players LOVE japan greatly for you culture Ida's and beliefs
in times of distress you only need to look to you friends and you have Manny here I'm positive even the insensitive people are not trying to be.... as they are just upset that there favorite place has suffered a devastation grater then ever expected and know not where to lash out

my 15.95 i normally pay will be donated to RED cross relief
hope it help

English to Japanese translation
私はFFのプレイヤーがあなたのために大幅に文化を井田さんや信念日本を愛し、私たちのほとんどを信じて
苦難の時代にあなただけの友人に見て必要があり、あなたは、私は小文字を区別しない人がすることとしているされていなくても陽性よここにマニーが....彼らはそこに好きな場所は、これまで期待荒廃のおろし金を受けたことではなく、ここで暴言を吐くを知って怒っているように

通常、お支払い私の15.95私は赤十字の救済に寄付されます
それは願っております

[Crimoir]

This is just speculation, but I would assume the not being billed for the April billing cycle would only apply to existing accounts, or those people who had paid for the month of March but are not able to play. You would have to ask somebody at SE, but I would guess a new account/reactivated account would be charged for April.

I bought a content id a few days before the shutdown, i haven't been billed for it yet... not sure if their just not gonna bill me till after april or what.

[Renesmay]

ty for the links

[Veratos]

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).] FFXI's servers are located in Japan, a country that has just had a large percentage of it's lands devasted by 3 disasters in the blink of an eye, Earthquake, Tsunami and now facing the second biggest Nuclear power plant crisis in earth's history,

[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

Although it saddens me to think about what the people of Japan are going through I for one am glad that the centre containing the FFXI servers was NOT destroyed along with so many lives, therefore the game can and most certainly WILL return,[Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

And to SE themselves, Thank You for the recent update about the world merge and version update, it was good to see that amidst the current situation you're still dealing with the planning and maintenance of FFXI.

You are all in my thoughts and I wish you all Good Luck.

[breau]

[QUOTE=Gropitou;15683]My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Japan and all those worldwide affected by the earthquake and it's tsunami.

I seriously doubt the game would grind to a halt had this calamity occured in the west coast of the the US (earthquake or volcano). No, they would have put out some cute sympathy article and everyone not in the affected areas would continue on without interruption.

of course it would not have come to stop, that would be another situation. what use has all this arguing, if the server would be in california and the energy crisis in japan they would not have stopped. but it is as it is, the crisis is in japan and the server is too. so we should be thankful they survived and think of the ones that died, got hurt or lost beloved ones. thank god they´ll be back cause this means: japan does still excest and will recover. this should be what we think about instead of nagging they should transfer to other servers. if they could transfer all that data there would be no need to do. i really pray all of you in japan don´t loose hope. we all think of you
breau, alexander/bastok

[breau]

people live and die, buisnesses strive and live on. the whole world didnt stop on 9/11, pearl harbor , ect ect
SE is large company and can afford to move to where the ground dont shake. and where power is stable. im almsot sure they can move to california where they have some sorta headqaurters, however i dont promise ground wont shake but you wont have to turn off power for a week. ive lost family friends from 9/11, pearl harbor, and current war in middle east so i do give you my condolences but as a company load that crap up put it on a plane sent it to where ever is stable and setup shoop.

yes i agree take a shovel, put it on a plane? do you really know what you talking about? if that easy they already would have done!!!!!!!!!!
breau, alexander/bastok

[VxdragonxV]

Thank you Raist for all your info. Alot of ppl do no realize there are over 5584 dead and still 9400 missing. Tthey have started spraying water on the #3 reactor but all the other reactors are heating up and if the situation does not get better soon there will be further power shortages. Rolling blackouts are reaching as far as Tokyo. S.E. is doing the right thing they are puting ppl before players. Alot of the people of Japan are running low on food and it is terribly cold. please be patient as this is somthing no one saw happening. They need our prayers not complaints.

[Sivart]

I would like to send my condolences to the people of Japan, all our hopes and prayers go out to you in your time in need.
Really wishing my <Teleport-Japan> was working so some of us could come over and lend a hand of some kind.

[Jakary]

My condolences to the people of japan who have suffered the past week's events, if i could i would set up a paypal donation button for a japanese earthquake/tsunami/nuclear crisis relief fund

[merlox]

the earthquake an tsunami were a horrible thing to happen and now the threat of meltdown(s) you are in my thoughts japan and all your citizens i truely wish i could help personally and on another note umbrion you should be ashamed of yourself how would you feel if you wew in their place seriously you are a cold heartless individual and i hope karma returnsd what you have coming

[Dinh]

I just had half an aneurysm trying to read that... But once again, I'm sure the Japanese are looking at the English forums to see if our thoughts are going out to them...

/endsarcasm

Send 5 bucks on the relief line through Yahoo! if you want to help.

[kingfury]

My utmost condolences go out to every victim of these horrible disasters both natural and un-natural. May the strength of your friends, family, and loved ones empower you all to pull through these incredibly tough times.

[Zeitzone]

Hello, im German and when i read this thread from begining to see what kind of respond do Americans give to the horrible things happen in Japan i first thought "oh, thats alot Posts in this thread, im happy that there is so much condolence from America"
But after i had read the first 20 Posts i just thought "Wtf? Are American really that ... by sending such horrible posts"
Some of the Posts in this Thread are disgusting, Japan is in pain right now and trying everything to stop the nuclear disaster, even 50 Japanese give them lives away to cold the Reactors down, to save Japanese and American lifes.(yes yours too, becouse the nuclear cloud can reach America)
And some of the American ppl here are complaining that the game isnt runing! WTF???
Wake up ppl, this is no cinema production, its real, and we only got one world, one place to live on.
Cant you see how far this can go if the Problem isnt resolved soon?
So instead of complaining give your Condolence or help!

And too in this Forum: My utmost condolences go out to all Japanese, to all who lost or will lose them Loved, Familiy Friends and existence. Its a hard time for you and we are all with you, even if only in our minds.
And we all will be hopeing for the 50 Heroes, that they will even after this have a chance for a good and long life.

[Rocman]

Hello, im German and when i read this thread from begining to see what kind of respond do Americans give to the horrible things happen in Japan i first thought "oh, thats alot Posts in this thread, im happy that there is so much condolence from America"
But after i had read the first 20 Posts i just thought "Wtf? Are American really that ... by sending such horrible posts"
Some of the Posts in this Thread are disgusting, Japan is in pain right now and trying everything to stop the nuclear disaster, even 50 Japanese give them lives away to cold the Reactors down, to save Japanese and American lifes.(yes yours too, becouse the nuclear cloud can reach America)
And some of the American ppl here are complaining that the game isnt runing! WTF???
Wake up ppl, this is no cinema production, its real, and we only got one world, one place to live on.
Cant you see how far this can go if the Problem isnt resolved soon?
So instead of complaining give your Condolence or help!

And too in this Forum: My utmost condolences go out to all Japanese, to all who lost or will lose them Loved, Familiy Friends and existence. Its a hard time for you and we are all with you, even if only in our minds.
And we all will be hopeing for the 50 Heroes, that they will even after this have a chance for a good and long life.

You can't Say its all Americans, just like every group there are idiots everywhere. It's not all Americans just some idiots that give us a bad name. Do i want the game to be up? yes of course. Am i going to bitch about it not being up? NO
I understand what is going on, and most other people do also.

[Babyj]

Yeah Kitykat jeeze... How dare you post your own opinion and feelings on a free public Forum. Lol (Sarcasm)

I may be wrong, but I do not believe this forum is free technically. Due too the fact you must have a Square Enix Security Token to log on to it, which just so happens to cost $10. But again i might be wrong.

[Vlaid]

I may be wrong, but I do not believe this forum is free technically. Due too the fact you must have a Square Enix Security Token to log on to it, which just so happens to cost $10. But again i might be wrong.

You actually don't need to have a Security Token to sign up/log in to this forum. While the method to input your security code is located beneath the two other log in requirements, it is only required to those who have their SE accounts sync'd with said token.

[Helel]

Just because there aren't any whiny Germans here to post doesn't mean that they don't exist lmao. Americans have a huge population in FFXI and thus you will get both sides of the coin. I feel stupid for having to explain this to you but here you go. I guess all German's are this narrow-minded since you're the only German poster here, therefore you represent the entire German race (sarcasm).

[Babyj]

You actually don't need to have a Security Token to sign up/log in to this forum. While the method to input your security code is located beneath the two other log in requirements, it is only required to those who have their SE accounts sync'd with said token.

Okay so I guess I was wrong, whatever.

[Babyj]

Just because there aren't any whiny Germans here to post doesn't mean that they don't exist lmao. Americans have a huge population in FFXI and thus you will get both sides of the coin. I feel stupid for having to explain this to you but here you go. I guess all German's are this narrow-minded since you're the only German poster here, therefore you represent the entire German race (sarcasm).

*Hands over some Aloe-vera* Damn....sarcastic or not that was a good one.

[Zeitzone]

Just because there aren't any whiny Germans here to post doesn't mean that they don't exist lmao. Americans have a huge population in FFXI and thus you will get both sides of the coin. I feel stupid for having to explain this to you but here you go. I guess all German's are this narrow-minded since you're the only German poster here, therefore you represent the entire German race (sarcasm).

Yeah, you show me right now how you are. Instead of understanding you just complain about wortless details, if i whould say "All American are great" you whould say "yeah we are"
But on other side you splitt.
First i thought, hey look how much they post becouse they are really worried, and i was disapointed that the german Posts in the german section arent at such high number.
But then I see that 50% of the posts are fumes or complains, and then i thought, better we dont say alot than complaining about such nonsense like alot of ppl do here.
The only bad excuse you give me is that you arent all the same, well an information for you "i already knowd that, IIIIIAAAAAA".
But those 50% show the world how Americans are(a high number of Americans is), becouse theyr bad behavior shows the low society status of America and that50% of the population dont even care for each other.
I dont say that all Americans are the same. But the high number of complainers here make it look bad.
Dont forget that you do not write with a person who can explain everything in your language as you can do.
So some of my verbalisations maybe arent very precisely.

And your behavior, instead of telling it nice, you try to insult me.

[breau]

Yeah, you show me right now how you are. Instead of understanding you just complain about wortless details, if i whould say "All American are great" you whould say "yeah we are"
But on other side you splitt.
First i thought, hey look how much they post becouse they are really worried, and i was disapointed that the german Posts in the german section arent at such high number.
But then I see that 50% of the posts are fumes or complains, and then i thought, better we dont say alot than complaining about such nonsense like alot of ppl do here.
The only bad excuse you give me is that you arent all the same, well an information for you "i already knowd that, IIIIIAAAAAA".
But those 50% show the world how Americans are(a high number of Americans is), becouse theyr bad behavior shows the low society status of America and that50% of the population dont even care for each other.
I dont say that all Americans are the same. But the high number of complainers here make it look bad.
Dont forget that you do not write with a person who can explain everything in your language as you can do.
So some of my verbalisations maybe arent very precisely.

And your behavior, instead of telling it nice, you try to insult me.

well i´m german too, but --------- i don´t think its 50% of americans, cause: as many we are, we ff players just a few, and only a few idiots are here. fools are everywhere, and most are not bad just foolish and not thinking it over. and the insultings, ok, not good but this is going right to emotions. and emotional afflicted people not allways act logical. and if my grammar, spelling or something else is weird i apologize.
breau, alexander/bastok

[Zeitzone]

Well in my first post never was an "all Americans are bad".
There was allways the word "some" infront of the word American.

And if a high number of ppl in a Post is bad you calculate that on the whole population.

Becouse FFXI Forum isnt a kind of hatred forum where bad ppls gather.

So i dont belive that from 10000 Americans the only evil 500 play FFXI, becouse FFXI isnt a place to gather bad ppl, so i logicaly thought, if here are so many bad ppl there must be alot more into the county. :(

If here whould be only 1 or 2 bad comments i whould have thought that there are just a very low number of bad ppl.
But the high number of bad comments really upset me and made me sad.
Its a high number of bad post in relation to the good posts.

I hope you understood what im trying to explain in my weak english.^^

[Coldbrand]

Why don't you go to the German forum?

[Tiduzs]

Well in my first post never was an "all Americans are bad".
There was allways the word "some" infront of the word American.

And if a high number of ppl in a Post is bad you calculate that on the whole population.

Becouse FFXI Forum isnt a kind of hatred forum where bad ppls gather.

So i dont belive that from 10000 Americans the only evil 500 play FFXI, becouse FFXI isnt a place to gather bad ppl, so i logicaly thought, if here are so many bad ppl there must be alot more into the county. :(

If here whould be only 1 or 2 bad comments i whould have thought that there are just a very low number of bad ppl.
But the high number of bad comments really upset me and made me sad.
Its a high number of bad post in relation to the good posts.

I hope you understood what im trying to explain in my weak english.^^

This form is not just for americans its for any one that speaks english. So how can you say that all the bad post are from americans?

[breau]

Why don't you go to the German forum?

i only can talk for Me: i don´t go to the german forum cause i love usa, usa citizens (espiacilally one, smile) and here is much more content, espiacially the infos from some members posting news links and explain a lot. most help raist gave. thanks and greetings, breau , alexander/bastok

[Chiibi]

Why don't you go to the German forum?

Same reason im not in the Japanese forum... English is fun ^.^b

[Sindar]

I give my condolence to everyone affected by the diaster in japan, as well as my friends who live there in and out of ffxi. Finally decided to post this while I eat and take a break from the quilting project I am working on. My church donates lots of relief items all over the world when things like this happen, but they are short some.

So if people want something to do while the server is down, go to the Red Cross or a Humaniarian Society you know who is helping out Japan in their time of need. Please don't just sit on a computer or just donate money, give your time I was raised that it is the best way to show you really mean the help.

[Zeitzone]

Why don't you go to the German forum?

Since when is it forbinden to write in two forums?
And i just wrote here becouse of the huge number of bad posts, i was curious how Americans feal about the sad things happen in Japan, and i hoped to find a thread with alot compassion, but after reading this thread i saw some good and alot bad posts, and that disapointed me.
Bad posts like bitching at SE, or posts like "im not complaining that i cant play ffxi but..." < that is complaining.


@Tiduzs: You are right, i cant be sure about that. It could be British ppl too, or ppl whos main language is english.

And now lets end this discussion, i dont want this Post to become a useless flaming.

[Zyeriis]

Well in my first post never was an "all Americans are bad".
There was allways the word "some" infront of the word American.

And if a high number of ppl in a Post is bad you calculate that on the whole population.

Becouse FFXI Forum isnt a kind of hatred forum where bad ppls gather.

So i dont belive that from 10000 Americans the only evil 500 play FFXI, becouse FFXI isnt a place to gather bad ppl, so i logicaly thought, if here are so many bad ppl there must be alot more into the county. :(

If here whould be only 1 or 2 bad comments i whould have thought that there are just a very low number of bad ppl.
But the high number of bad comments really upset me and made me sad.
Its a high number of bad post in relation to the good posts.

I hope you understood what im trying to explain in my weak english.^^

In the end, you're still stereotyping. You expect no one to be angry at you just because you are disgusted/angry at those that are saying offensive things? That's a pretty twisted logic. You may not be saying we're all like that but you are still connecting the word "Amercian" with those who are saying offensive things. That in and of itself, is offensive.

1) They may not be "American" just because they speak English (if you think about it: you're German, speaking English)
2) I hate labelists :/ You label people based upon a single aspect, from there that's all they'll ever be to you, skewing your point of view.
3) Arguments along the line of "If I say bad things about Americans they'll get angry but if I say they're great, they'll agree! What's wrong with them!" Would you rather our self-esteem to be so low to disagree with being called great? Ludicrous. Would rather our self-esteem to be so low to agree that we're horrible people? Completely absurd. Again, you can argue that you are only refering to "50%" (completely baseless) of us but, again, you are still tying those dickheads to the term "American" (falsely) which is unacceptable.

[Zeitzone]

@Zyeriis
At first the post schould wake up ppl to stop complaining about SE, thats what sucessed.
Noone is compalining about SE anymore.

Second ist that im labeling, but if you cant put ppl into groups, how can you complain? You cant!
You need to create a group, a label to even be able to say that they are good or bad.
If you cant name a group how will you say those are good or bad?
So if you say "a Ghost is good" then you are labeling all ghosts to be good.
Then a guy comes hey, dont label all ghost to be good. Wtf?
So how can i then say Ghosts are good without to label them?
Show me a way how to say Ghosts are good without to put ghosts into a group.
You cant.
If you want to complain about something you need to group it, becouse if i say "all bad ppl are bad" it kinda sounds redicioleus and still it is labeling.
"The policemans eat donuts" is labeling too. So how can i now say that the policemans eat donuts without to label/name/group them what they are?

[Selzak]

@Zyeriis
At first the post schould wake up ppl to stop complaining about SE, thats what sucessed.
Noone is compalining about SE anymore.

Second ist that im labeling, but if you cant put ppl into groups, how can you complain? You cant!
You need to create a group, a label to even be able to say that they are good or bad.
If you cant name a group how will you say those are good or bad?
So if you say "a Ghost is good" then you are labeling all ghosts to be good.
Then a guy comes hey, dont label all ghost to be good. Wtf?
So how can i then say Ghosts are good without to label them?
Show me a way how to say Ghosts are good without to put ghosts into a group.
You cant.
If you want to complain about something you need to group it, becouse if i say "all bad ppl are bad" it kinda sounds redicioleus and still it is labeling.
"The policemans eat donuts" is labeling too. So how can i now say that the policemans eat donuts without to label/name/group them what they are?
...Are you seriously saying that you don't understand how it might be possible to judge people individually and not as a group? If there is some kind of language barrier that makes this concept hard for you to understand then that is genuinely disconcerting.

How about: "This ghost is good."
Oh, and: "This poster is being inconsiderate."
Or you could say: "These posters [list of posters] are being inconsiderate."

Their nationality, or any group that they're a part of, should only be mentioned if it is relevant to what you're saying about them. There are people here (much less than 50%) who are more concerned with the game than the situation in Japan, but that's only because you're looking at a small group of people (many of whom live in this game) who may be young, immature, and/or disconnected from reality.

Here's some logic for you:
On a FFXI forum, you will see an abnormal amount of people voicing their opinions about FFXI. People who aren't concerned about the game being down (still the vast majority on this forum) will be less likely to post about it here and make their opinions heard in the first place.

[Zeitzone]

Your outlook on this has suddenly given me a better understanding of how the Holocaust happened. German people just like to lump people together into one sensationalized scapegoat. /irony

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

Well now i undestand why happened that the american nation killed nearly all native americans, why you put black ppl in slavery, why U.S.A. attacked and killed multyple vietnamese, why U.S.A.go down to muslime and try to kill them for oil.

Germany maybe did one mistake in hystory, America doing mistakes since they exist.

But for a better point of view, im just half german, other half is oposite site from Holocoust, i even grew up in a country that was once conquered by german force and where the Partisans fought for them right of freedom(yes partisan ist too labeling, omgim so horrible)
i saw both sites of the coint. i learned to hate germans and then to understand them, and i learned that its important to label everything inlife. Not labeling is just for layz ppl who are scared to set a point.
i Label my work, i label my friends, i label my own existence.

[Elysianne]

My hopes and prayers indeed go out to everyone affected by this disaster. This will affect all of our lives in one way or another.

It does make me chuckle however, to see everyone getting along so swimmingly!

[Zeitzone]

And now plz lets end this finaly becouse it becomes a useless flaming post only worth to be deleted.
Thats why i will not answer on any of following flaming posts

[breau]

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

Well now i undestand why happened that the american nation killed nearly all native americans, why you put black ppl in slavery, why U.S.A. attacked and killed multyple vietnamese, why U.S.A.go down to muslime and try to kill them for oil.

Germany maybe did one mistake in hystory, America doing mistakes since they exist.

But for a better point of view, im just half german, other half is oposite site from Holocoust, i even grew up in a country that was once conquered by german force and where the Partisans fought for them right of freedom(yes partisan ist too labeling, omgim so horrible)
i saw both sites of the coint. i learned to hate germans and then to understand them, and i learned that its important to label everything inlife. Not labeling is just for layz ppl who are scared to set a point.
i Label my work, i label my friends, i label my own existence.

germany made one mistake? deutschland hat einen fehler gemacht?
how do you count? - wie zählst denn du?
what about all the christianizing battles before? was ist mit den kreuzzügen?
what about our part on killing natural american´s? was ist mit unserer beteiligung and der verfolgung der amerikanischen ureinwohner?
how about looking at now, at what is coming , at what we can do in a better way instead of: you done this wrong, you done that bad? let´s work together for a better world for our children. hugs all people of good will
breau, alexander/bastok

[Selzak]

Your outlook on this has suddenly given me a better understanding of how the Holocaust happened. German people just like to lump people together into one sensationalized scapegoat. /irony

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

First of all, that was the joke. Try translating the word irony.

Secondly, this isn't even funny anymore because you aren't just making a logical mistake like I first assumed (and tried to explain), but you are a genuinely ignorant individual who is sincerely content to generalize people by their race, nationality, profession, etc. with baseless stereotypes.


e. Also, the American people have donated about $64,000,000 to Japan so far. The U.S. government has offered $35,000,000 not including tons of military aid. Although, judging by your attitude, I seriously doubt that your intentions when coming here were to drop by and figure out how much we care as you claimed. You obviously have many angry, unfounded opinions about America that you felt like posting about.

[Jwoods]

How about we just not worry about the whole labeling thing? I think the thread is about server suspension due to this huge catastrophic event that killed 5300 + HUMAN BEINGS and left many,mnay others in terrible discomfort... Remind yourself of this every day when you awaken compared to your own life and all this about labeling becomes minute and needless here... I think showing some compassion and offering aid is all this thread needs, right? I mean really? Really?

[Zyeriis]

First of all, that was the joke. Try translating the word irony.

Secondly, this isn't even funny anymore because you aren't just making a logical mistake like I first assumed (and tried to explain), but you are a genuinely ignorant individual who is sincerely content to generalize people by their race, nationality, profession, etc. with baseless stereotypes.


e. Also, the American people have donated about $64,000,000 to Japan so far. The U.S. government has offered $35,000,000 not including tons of military aid.
Outrage at being proven wrong is all that is happening now. (Note: Despite quoting Selzak, this post is a response to Zeitzone) When I said "Labelist" it was a deliberate poke at being ironic, to show the reaction one has when they are labeled something (even if that label is being called one who labels others or groups them with other individuals).

Zeitzone, you are right to be happy that the German forums have less posters, otherwise immature and insensitive and offensive German individuals would be doing the exact same thing as the immature and insensitive and offensive "American" individuals.

[Zyeriis]

Other than my previous post:

I'll continue on the Labelist subject. Actions are either good or bad (not necessarily the people who do them, there is good and bad to everyone, labeling some one bad or good over a single action is what it is to be a labelist) but when you go about labeling one person into a group that other people belong to (i.e. "Americans") you are proving that all you personally know is hate. You are throwing all the negativity of what single (or perhaps a few) individuals upon a single word, just to displace your anger on a single word rather than a single person. That is what stereotyping is, in essence. Concentrating your disgust upon a single label, disregarding that it is hardly proven that those words are common amongst the actual group of people you are associating that insensitive and offensive person with. We have every right to get angry, when you are comparing and intertwining us with something, we also, despise.

Those words don't even fully define that individual person let alone every person that has some minute detail in common with them. Do you like a particular sport? Let's say soccer for the sake of the example. What if that insensitive person also likes soccer? Are both of you as soccer fans, assholes by default because of one person's alarming words? I think not.

[Silvermane]

If the rolling power outages are continuing till at least 6th April as stated earlier in this forum do SE have any plans to move the Servers? I know its selfish but since the servers are down we cant suspend our accounts or anthing if the servers remaining down after the end of April, when the may billing period starts

[Zyeriis]

If that occurs Silvermane, I'm positive they'll extend the amount of time the game will be free.

Edit: Unless you mean the servers remaining down the entire time until the end of April. If that's the case, you won't be billed regardless...as the servers will be down.

[Selzak]

If the rolling power outages are continuing till at least 6th April as stated earlier in this forum do SE have any plans to move the Servers? I know its selfish but since the servers are down we cant suspend our accounts or anthing if the servers remaining down after the end of April, when the may billing period starts
I doubt they'll be moving the servers, and you definitely shouldn't worry about any payment concerns. SE hasn't given us any reason to suspect an unfair billing since the game has been up, and I don't think any MMO provider would risk the wave of lawsuits that would likely follow something like that.

[Babyj]

The merger wont happen till May when they preform the update that was supposed to happen about this week. They will not bill for a service in which you can not you for that would be illegal.

[Zyeriis]

Actually I'm pretty sure they removed the merger from the update because of this, as well as moving it to May. The merger will likely happen in the next update after that.

[Babyj]

Okay, this is my disclaimer before you read this post: This can be taken as very insensitive, and rude, but it is just something I find very interesting. And that this is not intended to be a post about me not caring about the Japanese people, again it is just kind of interesting thing to think about.

In 30days before the 9.0 earthquake, Japan experienced 48 earthquakes ranging from 3.5 to the 9.0. They also had in January a Volcano erupt. I find this interesting because, how did they not know that the big one that hit them was coming? I find this very hard to believe that not one siesmoligost in there country happened to not notice this pattern. I do understand that natural disasters are very unpredictable, but at least a slight thought that this could possibly happen. And please before you go all flame-tactular on this post please think about it for a moment, you might see where I am confused how they failed too see this was coming.

[Kadara]

In 30days before the 9.0 earthquake, Japan experienced 48 earthquakes ranging from 3.5 to the 9.0. They also had in January a Volcano erupt. I find this interesting because, how did they not know that the big one that hit them was coming? I find this very hard to believe that not one siesmoligost in there country happened to not notice this pattern. I do understand that natural disasters are very unpredictable, but at least a slight thought that this could possibly happen. And please before you go all flame-tactular on this post please think about it for a moment, you might see where I am confused how they failed too see this was coming.

What pattern? The US has had 54 3.0+ earthquakes in the past 7 days alone. Now that counts the whole US, but also only over 1/4 of the time, so it seems like it'd be a fairly normal rate. How many earthquakes a month does Japan normally have?

[Babyj]

What pattern? The US has had 54 3.0+ earthquakes in the past 7 days alone. Now that counts the whole US, but also only over 1/4 of the time, so it seems like it'd be a fairly normal rate. How many earthquakes a month does Japan normally have?

That would be a good reply if it wasn't for the fact the US is like 30X the size of Japan. So stating the fact the US experienced these they could be spread acrossed the whole country, while Japans may have been acrossed the whole country, the country is only the size of California. And to the question about how many they have normally I do not know. And for the fact you did not see the pattern shows me you do not understand seismology, not being rude just stating a fact.

[Zyeriis]

Even if they had known (impossible to be certain), what could they have done? There wouldn't/isn't a way of determining where the earthquake would hit. Where would they evacuate to? Relatively impossible (and silly) to evacuate an entire country.

[Babyj]

Even if they had known (impossible to be certain), what could they have done? There wouldn't/isn't a way of determining where the earthquake would hit. Where would they evacuate to? Relatively impossible (and silly) to evacuate an entire country.

I am not arguing with that, it is a very stupid to assume they would know the EXACT location where the earthquake would hit at. But I do not think it would be stupid to have them take precautions before hand, I.E. turning of the reactors, or having a ready to go plan for when it did happen instead of taking 2 1/2 days to respond to the disaster.

[Kadara]

That would be a good reply if it wasn't for the fact the US is like 30X the size of Japan. So stating the fact the US experienced these they could be spread acrossed the whole country, while Japans may have been acrossed the whole country, the country is only the size of California. And to the question about how many they have normally I do not know. And for the fact you did not see the pattern shows me you do not understand seismology, not being rude just stating a fact.

If you don't know how many they normally have in a month, how can you say there's a pattern? If they average 40-50 earthquakes a month, then that would be normal. You'd have to look at the months before and see if that was an unusual number to see if there's a pattern.

[Zyeriis]

If they turned off the reactors, and no earthquake occured, then they would have been without sufficient power for no reason. The earthquake isn't even what caused the most damage, it was the tsunami.

[Babyj]

If they turned off the reactors, and no earthquake occured, then they would have been without sufficient power for no reason. The earthquake isn't even what caused the most damage, it was the tsunami.

.......What caused the tsunami I wounder....man this was on final Jepordy last night too....

[RAIST]

found some data tracking significant events (6.0) and they're pretty common I guess. Japan is touted as one of the more active areas, and leaders in the technology for construction and what-not for safeguarding against the damage.

http://www.world-earthquakes.com/index.php?option=hist&zone=JAPAN

The sesmic tracking for the US shows that there are virtually continual minor events though here...I imagine it's even more common in Japan. I've seen minor shocks happen in the middle of interviews and people just act like it's normal rumble from an L-train or something.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php

Raist

[Zyeriis]

.......What caused the tsunami I wounder....man this was on final Jepordy last night too....

No relevance to argument, there's not a country on Earth that has a decent plan on what to do should a tsunami occur. If a tsunami started in the Atlantic Ocean, the US would be fucked: NYC, Washington D.C., New Jersey, Maryland, Florida, would all be fucked.

[Babyj]

That is very true sir that's why I live in the mid-USA so I don't have to worry about Giant waves crushing my world. And yes I know that was a rude statement I just made, but honesty is usually jerk-ish

[Babyj]

If you don't know how many they normally have in a month, how can you say there's a pattern? If they average 40-50 earthquakes a month, then that would be normal. You'd have to look at the months before and see if that was an unusual number to see if there's a pattern.

Okay sorry if you take this as rude.......but congratulations you know how to make a pattern.

[Dreamers]

In 30days before the 9.0 earthquake, Japan experienced 48 earthquakes ranging from 3.5 to the 9.0. They also had in January a Volcano erupt. I find this interesting because, how did they not know that the big one that hit them was coming? I find this very hard to believe that not one siesmoligost in there country happened to not notice this pattern. I do understand that natural disasters are very unpredictable, but at least a slight thought that this could possibly happen. And please before you go all flame-tactular on this post please think about it for a moment, you might see where I am confused how they failed too see this was coming.

Even if there were an abnormal amount of siesmic activity leading up to this event, on 3/9/11 there was a 7.2 earthquake in Japan. That is a large earthquake in itself, and I dont think anybody would have thought it was just a foreshock for the strongest earthquake to hit Japan in recorded history, and the tsunami to follow.

[Silvermane]

My point about billing/servers was really if SE has any plans to actually move the servers if the rolling outages continue for signicantly over three weeks as has already been indicated. I find it remarkable that a global company suchas SE has had its MMO brought to a halt without any sort of longer term plan to relocate, if for example heaven forbid the reactor does go up. SE really seem to have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak, Imean other that for convience is there any reason the servers arent actually in the areas they serve? i.e a EU site, US site and a JP site. Especially when you consider that FFXIV is pretty much dead at least in the medium term and FFXV is apparrently in trouble too.

[Kadara]

Okay sorry if you take this as rude.......but congratulations you know how to make a pattern.

The problem is that apparently you don't know how to make a pattern. You look at one month's worth of earthquakes and ask why no one saw the pattern, when you can't go by one month alone. You need to look at the months/years before and see if the earthquake rate for that month was unusual.

[RAIST]

543 JAPAN 6.8 2011 2011-03-12
542 JAPAN 6.6 2011 2011-03-11
541 JAPAN 6.5 2011 2011-03-11
540 JAPAN 6.5 2011 2011-03-11
539 JAPAN 7.1 2011 2011-03-11
538 JAPAN 6.8 2011 2011-03-11
537 JAPAN 9.0 2011 2011-03-11
535 JAPAN 7.2 2011 2011-03-09
363 JAPAN 6.6 2010 n/a
358 JAPAN 7.1 2009 2009-08-09

Granted, this doesn't show the weaker seismic activity below 6.0, but I'm guessing three significant events recorded in about 18 months was not much of an indication that they would have 6 more over 6.0 happen within the next 48/72 hours.....

Raist

[RAIST]

My point about billing/servers was really if SE has any plans to actually move the servers if the rolling outages continue for signicantly over three weeks as has already been indicated. I find it remarkable that a global company suchas SE has had its MMO brought to a halt without any sort of longer term plan to relocate, if for example heaven forbid the reactor does go up. SE really seem to have put all the eggs in one basket so to speak, Imean other that for convience is there any reason the servers arent actually in the areas they serve? i.e a EU site, US site and a JP site. Especially when you consider that FFXIV is pretty much dead at least in the medium term and FFXV is apparrently in trouble too.

Again....because it would not be cost effective to have a multi-cultural, international playerbase with regional servers all in the same game world at the same time--not to mention the horrible lag that would be injected trying to synch up to 32 game servers in each of 3 or 4 regions in real-time to make that even possible. It would have had to been set up as a NA region with only NA players, a EU region with only EU users, a JP region with only JP players, etc--not a mix of all people playing together in the same game world. Or if not isolated competely region, and JP could sign up on the EU server and accept the additional lag vs. playing on one more local--they would only be able to play with the people in that EU region and not teamup with people on the JP region server. This way, all regions can interact together so long as they are homed on the same server.

Raist

[Zyeriis]

543 JAPAN 6.8 2011 2011-03-12
542 JAPAN 6.6 2011 2011-03-11
541 JAPAN 6.5 2011 2011-03-11
540 JAPAN 6.5 2011 2011-03-11
539 JAPAN 7.1 2011 2011-03-11
538 JAPAN 6.8 2011 2011-03-11
537 JAPAN 9.0 2011 2011-03-11
535 JAPAN 7.2 2011 2011-03-09
363 JAPAN 6.6 2010 n/a
358 JAPAN 7.1 2009 2009-08-09

Granted, this doesn't show the weaker seismic activity below 6.0, but I'm guessing three significant events recorded in about 18 months was not much of an indication that they would have 6 more over 6.0 happen within the next 48/72 hours.....

Raist

:Q where's 536!?

[RAIST]

was probably below 6.0 so it's not on that site's list. As I said, it's only showing events above 6.0.
Notice there's over 170 minor events that took place from 2009-08-09 to 2011-03-09.
Raist

[Silvermane]

It is a fact though that some servers have larger populations from various cultral groups though, and I may not have epxressed my point how I meant. I was more bothered about the servers not being all in the same place, have em in africa for all I care, but having all your chickens in one basket it kinda silly. Imagine if say 1/3were in japan, 1/3 in US and 1/3 in EU this would mean only 1/3 would be currently down and if they wanted to move em they could alot faster

[RAIST]

Yeah, it would be nice in theory...but again, there would likely be a lot more overhead with all the staffing and ISP costs and what not. A lot of their talent may have been homed in the JP region as well, so there's the whole relocation aspect too maybe. Guess this was the easiest way for them to do it. Would have been nice if they had chosen to do it in a different location, I agree... but for whatever reason here we are now and they've got to figure out what's best for them as a company.

no matter how much they may want and try to be considerate of the customer base's wishes--ultimately they are going to do what is best for the comnpany in the long run. It's not uncommon, Micro$oft is a prime example of that syndrome--how many WTF moments has that company had over the last 30 years....

Raist

[Silvermane]

ive noticed a new thread on weather servers will be back up in 2 months and I really think it will be a matter of days or weeks, ie if it isnt up by the end of march I dont expect it to be up till may or even june!

[RAIST]

an encouraging tweet from Tokyo Post stream:

because people cooperated so much in saving electricity, a large scale blackout around Tokyo area was avoided yesterday.

Need to see more good news.

Raist

[Babyj]

The problem is that apparently you don't know how to make a pattern. You look at one month's worth of earthquakes and ask why no one saw the pattern, when you can't go by one month alone. You need to look at the months/years before and see if the earthquake rate for that month was unusual.

Yet again, all you have posted in the last 3 of your posts is the fact you now how to make a pattern. But if the standard earthquakes they get over there range from 4.0~6.0 when the ones that where bigger then 6.0 happened I think someone should of had the Scholar light bulb emote happen and realized something bad was coming. And if they did not want to use seismology then they could of used the fact that 45% or more of japanese culture consist of farmers, and had a farmer tell them that something bad is coming. I mean did no one notice like every fish in 100 miles leave the area, or all the birds leave the island before it happened?

[Kadara]

Yet again, all you have posted in the last 3 of your posts is the fact you now how to make a pattern. But if the standard earthquakes they get over there range from 4.0~6.0 when the ones that where bigger then 6.0 happened I think someone should of had the Scholar light bulb emote happen and realized something bad was coming. And if they did not want to use seismology then they could of used the fact that 45% or more of japanese culture consist of farmers, and had a farmer tell them that something bad is coming. I mean did no one notice like every fish in 100 miles leave the area, or all the birds leave the island before it happened?

You're the one who said there was a pattern, with no evidence of one. Earthquakes in the 4-6 range aren't that uncommon, did they get an unusual number in the past month compared to other months? And I haven't seen any reports on the fish/birds leaving before the quake, got a link?

[Babyj]

You're the one who said there was a pattern, with no evidence of one. Earthquakes in the 4-6 range aren't that uncommon, did they get an unusual number in the past month compared to other months? And I haven't seen any reports on the fish/birds leaving before the quake, got a link?

Yes I do it's on youtube.com, it was also on CNN. This random guy THE DAY BEFORE the earthquake hit, had filmed the birds leaving the area he was in, in massive groups. He also says in japanese "This is very wierd and out of season for them to be leaving like that."

[Kadara]

Yes I do it's on youtube.com, it was also on CNN. This random guy THE DAY BEFORE the earthquake hit, had filmed the birds leaving the area he was in, in massive groups. He also says in japanese "This is very wierd and out of season for them to be leaving like that."

Searching different combinations of bird/Japan/Japanese/earthquake didn't turn up anything like that in the first couple of pages of youtube, CNN, or google. Got an actual link?

[Zyeriis]

I don't want to get into an argument about this (as inevitable as it will be) but birds fleeing Japan could mean a lot of things.

[Silvermane]

they heard elmer thudd was coming and that he was bored of wabbits?

[Zyeriis]

they heard elmer thudd was coming and that he was bored of wabbits?
That is most definently the leading alternative.

[Silvermane]

Or maybe Dick Dastardly was coming and hes so old hes forgotten what pidgeons look like?

[Kadara]

they heard elmer thudd was coming and that he was bored of wabbits?

So does that mean we'll have rabbits mass fleeing from Wile E. Coyote since it seems he and Elmer decided to switch?? Or will they just need to hide out till he blows himself up/slingshots himself/falls a few hundred feet?

[Silvermane]

Maybe, does japan have alot of Rabbits?

[JagerForrester]

Just Ryo-oki

[Kimiko]

Nyao! =^_^=

[Preatius]

I wish to send my thoughts and prayers to all the families affected by this tragedy. May the stories of selfless bravery and unwavering resolve pave a road to your quick and safe recovery thru the difficult days ahead.

[Silvermane]

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Mar. 18, 2011 05:30 [PDT] From: PlayOnline http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/imgs/spacer.gif
Temporary Suspension of the Services: Follow-up http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/imgs/spacer.gif http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/imgs/info/infhr.gif
Below is an update regarding the temporary suspension of the FINAL FANTASY XIV, FINAL FANTASY XI, and PlayOnline services.

Originally, we announced that the services will be temporarily suspended for about a week starting on Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT). However, due to ongoing issues with the lack of energy, we have decided to extend the suspension until Mar. 22, 2011 (JST). We will re-evaluate the situation on Mar. 22, 2011 (JST) and provide everyone with another update regarding this matter.

We deeply apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your continued understanding of this unusual situation.

[Date & Time]
From Mar. 13, 2011 3:00 (PDT)

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XIV
- FINAL FANTASY XI
- PlayOnline

* The following services, normally accessible from the official PlayOnline homepage (http://www.playonline.com/), will be unavailable during this time.

- Friend List Plus
- FINAL FANTASY XI Linkshell Community Beta Version
- PlayOnline Friend List Application
- Community Site Link Registration: Owner Menu

* Additionally, the following types of support will also be temporarily unavailable:
- PlayOnline Password Recovery
- PlayOnline Account Cancellation
- All activities requiring the confirmation of personal information

[breau]

Yes I do it's on youtube.com, it was also on CNN. This random guy THE DAY BEFORE the earthquake hit, had filmed the birds leaving the area he was in, in massive groups. He also says in japanese "This is very wierd and out of season for them to be leaving like that."

ok bab, i see your point. but what do you suggest they should have done? put everything in a back pack and carry on a hill? sorry for sarcasm, but they done all that was possible i think, they not telling us we started backup, we checked generators and so on doesn´t mean they didn´t. when you know bad weather is coming you don´t runn around and shout "i´m going to close my windows", you just do.
breau, alexander/bastok

[Xgeneralx]

God with you ppl ; ; wish all friend in game or inlife they are safe ;; praying

[Sanjuu-Satsui]

If a Tsunami happened in the US we would be fine. We have Chuck Norris.

[leonorado]

i feel for all the families that have lost loved ones they are going through the worst thing to happen to them since world war 2 i really dont understand why ppl are worring about game i love ff11 but i love my family more and these ppl have lost their familys and homes. i dont think its all to do with electric that se has choosen to shut servers maybe it is because they have lost loved one too. my heart goes out to all those children that have lost their parents and all those parents that have lost their children.

leonorado of phoenix

[Silvermane]

I really hate to say this again, but id really like SE to tell us their long term stratergy, although they havnt actually said it, it seems they are just waiting for the power grid to return to normality

[Syoaron]

ok I read to much of this about people whining complaining and crying about FFXI being down. I love this game no doubt, But here is the thing Would you perfer the Servers to be down for 1 short little week or for 3 years? ask yourself if this is even possible ok.

Imagine this ok what if SE didnt turn the servers off? what if the electricity ran out? all source of energy would be gone and it will take a while to get back. now look at it this way

IF and i quote "IF" SE kept the servers running and the Power supply died out. The people in Japan who need the hospitals would probably die and for you Baby's about ffxi being down would have to wait like more than 3-5 months for the power to be back so that the servers can fully operate.

Now which would you perfer. playing for 2 weeks and not be able to play for 3-5 months or let the power go to those who need it most and sit and wait for servers to come back for a week or 2 and get to play for years to come?

sorry my grammer sucks but bare with me here. which would you perfer?

A. Play for 2 weeks. Server Dies because of Power shortage. wait until power is fully available 2-5 months later with the death of many people from this tragedy being the cause of your selfishness
B. Bare with the loss of 2 weeks of FFXI, and play for years to come.

Have your pick people. but ask yourself this or put yourself in that situation in Japan. How would i feel if i was in their shoes?

do note No disrespect to you all but I am tired of you all bitching about servers being down. Mind my language. Karma will bite you in the ass and you'll know it when it does trust me.

[RAIST]

Cem started a "petition" of sorts to try to get some info from SE. Everyone needs to hop over there and /sign it. Maybe it will work.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2743-Information-Submission-Request-to-Square-Enix?p=33153&viewfull=1#post33153

Raist

[leonorado]

ok I read to much of this about people whining complaining and crying about FFXI being down. I love this game no doubt, But here is the thing Would you perfer the Servers to be down for 1 short little week or for 3 years? ask yourself if this is even possible ok.

Imagine this ok what if SE didnt turn the servers off? what if the electricity ran out? all source of energy would be gone and it will take a while to get back. now look at it this way

IF and i quote "IF" SE kept the servers running and the Power supply died out. The people in Japan who need the hospitals would probably die and for you Baby's about ffxi being down would have to wait like more than 3-5 months for the power to be back so that the servers can fully operate.

Now which would you perfer. playing for 2 weeks and not be able to play for 3-5 months or let the power go to those who need it most and sit and wait for servers to come back for a week or 2 and get to play for years to come?

sorry my grammer sucks but bare with me here. which would you perfer?

A. Play for 2 weeks. Server Dies because of Power shortage. wait until power is fully available 2-5 months later with the death of many people from this tragedy being the cause of your selfishness
B. Bare with the loss of 2 weeks of FFXI, and play for years to come.

Have your pick people. but ask yourself this or put yourself in that situation in Japan. How would i feel if i was in their shoes?

do note No disrespect to you all but I am tired of you all bitching about servers being down. Mind my language. Karma will bite you in the ass and you'll know it when it does trust me.

i totally agree

[Anadosia]

My heart goes out to all who were affected by the earthquake and tsunami. I can't imagine how devastating and horrific it has been and still is.
To those who are disgruntled about the servers being down need to consider this: Everyone who works at SE has family and their homes potentially destroyed. That is more important than anything on earth! I think that it is very compassionate of SE to allow their employees to take care of what is most important....their families.

[Starcade]

I really hate to say this again, but id really like SE to tell us their long term stratergy, although they havnt actually said it, it seems they are just waiting for the power grid to return to normality

They don't have a long-term strategy, because there's a real chance the power grid will NEVER return to normality.

Has anyone with the damn May Wong Syndrome ("We need the servers up NOW! NOW NOW NOW!!!") even figured this out yet?

[RAIST]

Power is being restored to cooling systems of the reactors

From Tokyo Post Twitter feed:


NISA Press Conference: Power to 1-2 reactors today, 3-4 tomorrow, 5-6 today - pump at #5 functional and 1 diesel generator working

Hopefully a sign of good things to come!

Raist

[sasaya]

Please forgive translation by the site.

It is after a long absence. 　I am safe somehow.
At last the Internet restored today.

Water service is not yet recovered in my house,
but there is a more terrible place a lot in the other areas.

A blanket and kerosene and gasoline are short in a district of the
Pacific Coast side in particular.

I ask for contribution if I have it to spare by all means.
Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

[Silvermane]

article on BBC News Site about energy crisis in Japan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12793925

[RAIST]

Please forgive translation by the site.

It is after a long absence. 　I am safe somehow.
At last the Internet restored today.

Water service is not yet recovered in my house,
but there is a more terrible place a lot in the other areas.

A blanket and kerosene and gasoline are short in a district of the
Pacific Coast side in particular.

I ask for contribution if I have it to spare by all means.
Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

Welcome back Sasaya. Glad to hear your are still with us. Hang in there. Last night I saw reports of relief efforts getting further into more troubled areas, and efforts to contain the reactors were progressing and more plans for more power should be coming soon. Hopefully things will get better soon.

Best wishes from the US to you and everyone struggling in this time of great crisis.

Raist

Google Translated:

ささやおかえりなさい。聞いて喜んでお使い続けてくれています。頑張れ。昨夜、私は問題を抱えた地域にさらになって救援活動の報告、およびより多くの電力の詳細計画と進められてすぐに来る必要があります原子炉を含むように努力を見た。うまくいけば、物事はすぐにもっと上手に取得します。

あなたとみんなに米国からベストの願いは、大きな危機のこの時期に苦しんで。

Raist

[Zeitzone]

@ Sasaya: We are glad that you found your way back to us. ^^

@ Complainers about that FF isnt runing:

Im sure alot japanese who were hit by the Tsunami/Earthquake will not return to the game. ; ;

So before anyone here complains about that FFXI/FFXIV isnt runing, think about those ppl, players who lived in the suffering areas and will maybe not return. Becouse they are dead or lost them homes.
So if you ever had meet a japanese or have japanese friends into the game be aware of this.
Im very woried about a friend im not sure if shes safe.
I can only hope.

So stop complains about FF isnt runing. Noone cares about FF right now.
Mabye only the obsesed ones.

[Eisensword]

I'm from Florida we have our fair share of disasters too. None even remotely as severe as the one in Japan you have all our thoughts and prayers. And i hope you are able to make it through these tough and trying times.

[Sanjuu-Satsui]

I love how people act like thousands of people don't die everyday. YES what is happening in Japan is horrible. I guess when it isn't a lot of people all at once then it is easy to ignore and act like it isn't happening.

Yeah Zeitzone how did you know that everyone who wants to play FFXI right now is fat? You don't sound ignorant at all.

[RAIST]

Yeah Zeitzone how did you know that everyone who wants to play FFXI right now is fat? You don't sound ignorant at all.

WHAT??! I think you misread the misspelling of obsessed (obsesed).

LOL

[Zyeriis]

@ Sasaya: We are glad that you found your way back to us. ^^

@ Complainers about that FF isnt runing:

Im sure alot japanese who were hit by the Tsunami/Earthquake will not return to the game. ; ;

So before anyone here complains about that FFXI/FFXIV isnt runing, think about those ppl, players who lived in the suffering areas and will maybe not return. Becouse they are dead or lost them homes.
So if you ever had meet a japanese or have japanese friends into the game be aware of this.
Im very woried about a friend im not sure if shes safe.
I can only hope.

So stop complains about FF isnt runing. Noone cares about FF right now.
Mabye only the obsesed ones.

Don't think I've seen anyone complain that FFXIV isn't running.

[Zyeriis]

WHAT??! I think you misread the misspelling of obsessed (obsesed).

LOL
You didn't end with...

Raist

[RAIST]

You didn't end with...

Raist

hehe yeah yeah... pick on the old fart.. old habit I picked up long ago with boards that had minimum post requirements and such. Couldn't just post a lol or nod to a post, so got in the habit of signing posts to meet the minimum. Been trying to make myself stop but...

Raist

[Zeitzone]

I love how people act like thousands of people don't die everyday. YES what is happening in Japan is horrible. I guess when it isn't a lot of people all at once then it is easy to ignore and act like it isn't happening.

Yeah Zeitzone how did you know that everyone who wants to play FFXI right now is fat? You don't sound ignorant at all.

Its not that there isnt ppl dieing everyday, but if alot ppl die at one place its more tragic for those ppl there.
Thats the difference. Sure Million ppl die at a day, but if its 10per region it will not hurt the Region, but there die "tausand" ppl in 1 region, thats a very high number at one spot, that makes it horrible.

And i dont know where you seen a "Fat" in my Text Ö.ö
Obsessed http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/besessen.html
Looks like i forgott a "S".

[Zeitzone]

Don't think I've seen anyone complain that FFXIV isn't running.

Well maybe becouse this is FFXI Forum.^^
Im sure if you check FFXIV Forum you will find them.

[RAIST]

Well maybe becouse this is FFXI Forum.^^
Im sure if you check FFXIV Forum you will find them.


Actually, not so much....guess they just got used to it being down a lot. Drove me nuts during beta.

[Zeitzone]

Is FFXIV any good? I was thinking about to try it but i heard its kinda as cheap as WoW and there is no AH.
I thought maybe its just that way becouse the game is new and they didnt put much into it yet.
Some ppl say it has nearly no cutscenes, that whould be really sad, i need a thick storyline to play a game or i never touch it.
And Mithras/Tarus look very ugly in FFXIV.

[RAIST]

I'll give it another year before my final decision on it...FFXI had a buttload of things wrong with it at startup too.

But as it is, it just doesn't hold enough for me to pay for two services when they finally start billing it, even with the discount. If I ever finish all the crap on my to-do list in XI--might be a different story. For now, just sticking to the one I would be playing the most anyway.

[Zyeriis]

I'll give it another year before my final decision on it...FFXI had a buttload of things wrong with it at startup too.

But as it is, it just doesn't hold enough for me to pay for two services when they finally start billing it, even with the discount. If I ever finish all the crap on my to-do list in XI--might be a different story. For now, just sticking to the one I would be playing the most anyway.

Forgot again :cool:

[Jiriki]

My condolences to all who are affected by the earthquake, tsunami and subsequent nuclear accidents.
I found out, by now, that all my friends and their families in Japan are well and I can only begin to imagine what it must be like for those who hear different news about their loved ones.
As it is with disasters it brings out the best and the worst in people and I must say that the Japanese people have my admiration how resilient, disciplined and altruistic they are under these harsh circumstances. I can't imagine how those who put the issue of being unable to play for a week at the top priority see the world they live in but I wish that they will open their eyes and look around at some point. There is not only disaster that you miss with this point of view...

I will contribute as much as I can afford to help relief the suffering for a people and a culture with which I feel more connected than the one I was born in. I know that there are numerous issues, disasters, suffering people all over the world but you can't help everywhere and I just hope that there are people that choose to support those who need help in Libya, Africa, South America, Iraq... The list is way too long, isn't it.

I mourn for all the people and cultural heritage that was lost but I know we can rebuild it, as beautiful as it was before and, if nothing else, I welcome the renewed discussion about saving energy and the necessity (or unnecessity) of nucelar power!
That is an easy way to contribute, I'd say. Switch off the light if it isn't needed.

You will make it through, Japan! And you're not alone! :)


(If you want to use your monthly fee to help Japan, just donate that amount to the Red Cross directly, btw.)

[disturbed]

ya know, its been a week sence the tragady in japan. and ive been rather bored,so i started looking into all theese posts. i am a FFXI adict of the first degree, ive scheduald my first daughters birth via C-section around dyna , and lookd to my friends comfort after my 2nd daughters death,so as you can see i play this game alot more than alot of ppl, and even i can deal with the servers being shut down for awile. THERE ARE PPL DYING AND STARVING OVER THERE PPL!!!!!!! get over yourselves and get on with your lifes. SE..... take all the time you need and for gods sake donate 50% of the next 6 months game billing to your relife efforts. im a poor man and even i can aford to donate to the redcross. so i implore everyone who has 10.00$ in there pocket, under the coutch in your car whereever DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN thank you.

[Eligia]

ya know, its been a week sence the tragady in japan. and ive been rather bored,so i started looking into all theese posts. i am a FFXI adict of the first degree, ive scheduald my first daughters birth via C-section around dyna , and lookd to my friends comfort after my 2nd daughters death,so as you can see i play this game alot more than alot of ppl, and even i can deal with the servers being shut down for awile. THERE ARE PPL DYING AND STARVING OVER THERE PPL!!!!!!! get over yourselves and get on with your lifes. SE..... take all the time you need and for gods sake donate 50% of the next 6 months game billing to your relife efforts. im a poor man and even i can aford to donate to the redcross. so i implore everyone who has 10.00$ in there pocket, under the coutch in your car whereever DONATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN thank you.

So random strangers validate your downtime from FFXI more than the birth and death of your children? Wow.

[Hykiri]

Please forgive translation by the site.

It is after a long absence. 　I am safe somehow.
At last the Internet restored today.

Water service is not yet recovered in my house,
but there is a more terrible place a lot in the other areas.

A blanket and kerosene and gasoline are short in a district of the
Pacific Coast side in particular.

I ask for contribution if I have it to spare by all means.
Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

Peape is a good friend of mine and anyone that has a Japanese friend should be worrying over them and not over when the game will be back on. So remember that before being selfish.

Peapeはよい私の友人であり、ゲームがもどって来る時日本の友人があるだれでもそれらにないに心配し。 従って利己的があることの前にそれを覚えなさい。

[Gakaroth]

What alot of people are forgetting is, the employees and owners of SE are people. People in Japan at the moment are banding together in this time of suffering and panic among the people, NOONE wants to think about buisness, everyone is trying to help eachother out. We had similar things here in NZ when it struck Christchurch 2 weeks before Japan got hit. We're STILL cleaning up, and we're STILL mourning the loss of loved ones. At the moment, anyone who had a branch of a company around the country is trying to do all the work of the branch in Christchurch as they try to pickup thier lives.

People in crisis band together, and try to help out one another. People were arrested for trying to dive into rubble and help out complete strangers because it was endangering thier lives aswell as others, but they didn't think, they just wanted to help.

Do you not think they deserve the time to try help others as much as possible? Sure they're employees of a multi national megacorp, but they have feelings, they have been affected by this as much as anyone else, they have families, some may have lost friends and family members. In the end, FFXI is nothing more than a game. Please remember this. Sure it may have become a norm in your life, but, it's not worth people dying over.

In my opinion, I'd rather have the hospitals working at as high an effciency as possible over having a game up for the selfish people in the rest of the world who want to sit around in Jeuno doing nothing all day long.

Take this anyway you read it, I've said my part, and frankly am sick of the complaints.

~Gakakroth~

[Zarchery]

So random strangers validate your downtime from FFXI more than the birth and death of your children? Wow.

The people you spend a lot of time with in FFXI are no more "random strangers" than the people you spend a lot of time with out in the real world.

[Eligia]

I'm not referring to his friends online. I'm referring to him only being okay with not being in FFXI when it's other people in a serious situation. Don't try and white knight a dude that prioritized Dynamis over his daughter's birth.

[Vashel]

The official announcement about the FFXI suspension says that they will re-evaluate the situation in Japan on March 22nd Japan Standard Time.... but they don't specify a time. It's been March 22nd JST for 3 hours.... any news? I'm banking that it'll be suspended for at least another week or two, but I'm just curious.

[Jettauk]

I doubt they are in work to post an update at 3am, I think you can probably expect to wait at least another 9 hours before an announcement (Midday in Japan)

[Eligia]

Yesterday (Monday) in Japan it was a national holiday, so I doubt anyone was working anyway.

[Manicora]

as it was said on CNN and My Local News, The people of Japan are Strong, and Pull together when things are hard, We should be so lucky to have them as a reason to be strong and help in any way we can, If you dont like it, change it.
"Do not worry about the things you can not change, Do not worry about the things you can. There is nothing to worry about"

[Zyeriis]

Yesterday (Monday) in Japan it was a national holiday, so I doubt anyone was working anyway.

I'd like to think disaster relief trumps a national holiday :/

[krusnik213]

So random strangers validate your downtime from FFXI more than the birth and death of your children? Wow.

if you knew how to actually read he also states that he confided in the people he played online with about the death not that he ignored the death to hang out online, and in all honesty ur implying a "dude" schedualed kids birth around dyna, the wife could have said no... not entirely him you know.

[krusnik213]

I'd like to think disaster relief trumps a national holiday :/

did you ever think that maybe they wouldnt try to trump the holiday, but instead try to use it to ease the peoples minds and get them to think of something a bit more happy? even if it is for just one day

[Thuggy]

What alot of people are forgetting is, the employees and owners of SE are people. People in Japan at the moment are banding together in this time of suffering and panic among the people, NOONE wants to think about buisness, everyone is trying to help eachother out. We had similar things here in NZ when it struck Christchurch 2 weeks before Japan got hit. We're STILL cleaning up, and we're STILL mourning the loss of loved ones. At the moment, anyone who had a branch of a company around the country is trying to do all the work of the branch in Christchurch as they try to pickup thier lives.

People in crisis band together, and try to help out one another. People were arrested for trying to dive into rubble and help out complete strangers because it was endangering thier lives aswell as others, but they didn't think, they just wanted to help.

Do you not think they deserve the time to try help others as much as possible? Sure they're employees of a multi national megacorp, but they have feelings, they have been affected by this as much as anyone else, they have families, some may have lost friends and family members. In the end, FFXI is nothing more than a game. Please remember this. Sure it may have become a norm in your life, but, it's not worth people dying over.

In my opinion, I'd rather have the hospitals working at as high an effciency as possible over having a game up for the selfish people in the rest of the world who want to sit around in Jeuno doing nothing all day long.

Take this anyway you read it, I've said my part, and frankly am sick of the complaints.

~Gakakroth~



Bravo, well said

[Gnoir]

This is my first post in any forum. My prayers go out to everyone in Japan during this difficult time. I know I am a little late but, I felt I had to say something. I have lived in Japan and am a better person for having done so. Japan is one of the most beautiful places in the world, the people make it even more so. Words can not express the sorrow I fell for the lose lives and history that has taken places. FFXI is a wonderfully addictive game but, it is just that, just a game. We, I at least, can wait until you have everything in order with your lives before we start thinking about the game. God be with you all in your time of need.

[Evilbob]

Ok guess I'll toss my 2 cents in here.

Yea disaster in Japan sucks, I wish them all the best and a speedy recovery.

But I'm a FFXI ADDICT, seriously addicted, I've lost a girlfriend and a job over this game. I've skipped social events becouse Tiamat popped! I've done 8 hour long stretches of level grinding just becouse I thought, oh yea, having a 75 COR might be usefull someday (This obviously goes back awhile ^^) More recently, I would spend 5 hours farming up pops for Briareus, just so the next day after work I could spend another 5 hours to farm pops for it.

If there was a surgen generals warning saying this game has been shown to cause cancer, I would still play it. If this game could be boiled down and shot into my veins I'd be sharing needles to do so. If this game was illegal in all 50 states, I'd move to Canada. If there was a 12 step program for FFXI, I need it. Wheres my FFXI patch?

Some people smoke, some people drink, some people do far worse things. I think we all have addictions to one thing or another.

Anyway, let the flames begin... I just want my drug back.

[Korriri]

Ok guess I'll toss my 2 cents in here.

Yea disaster in Japan sucks, I wish them all the best and a speedy recovery.

But I'm a FFXI ADDICT, seriously addicted, I've lost a girlfriend and a job over this game. I've skipped social events becouse Tiamat popped! I've done 8 hour long stretches of level grinding just becouse I thought, oh yea, having a 75 COR might be usefull someday (This obviously goes back awhile ^^) More recently, I would spend 5 hours farming up pops for Briareus, just so the next day after work I could spend another 5 hours to farm pops for it.

If there was a surgen generals warning saying this game has been shown to cause cancer, I would still play it. If this game could be boiled down and shot into my veins I'd be sharing needles to do so. If this game was illegal in all 50 states, I'd move to Canada. If there was a 12 step program for FFXI, I need it. Wheres my FFXI patch?

Some people smoke, some people drink, some people do far worse things. I think we all have addictions to one thing or another.

Anyway, let the flames begin... I just want my drug back.

Look on the bright side. You get to spend more time with your boyfriend.

[Saenomo]

I would like to take a moment to direct the player base to the statement that PlayOnline will not be billing us for April due to the servers being down for this time and want to direct people to Paypal's website if you have an account.

Paypal is acting as a medium for several charitable organizations aiding Japan in this time of trouble. I felt it only right to take my payment that I won't be charged this month and put it toward one of them. If you have more, that is always great to, but I think it would be a rather wonderful thought if FFXI's players could send their April payments to one of those charities. It may seem small, but between all of us, it adds up quickly.

Thank you all. God Bless.

[russmnk]

How r u guys！
I personally take very heavily on this disaster. I myself are not under the direct damage. However, donations donated to imagine the feelings of people in affected areas. As a Japanese, as a fan of FF11 and hope to resume service as soon as possible.

[Tonberry]

If there was a surgen generals warning saying this game has been shown to cause cancer, I would still play it. If this game could be boiled down and shot into my veins I'd be sharing needles to do so. If this game was illegal in all 50 states, I'd move to Canada. If there was a 12 step program for FFXI, I need it. Wheres my FFXI patch?
k.

Shiny side up... chasin' the Fafnir

[svengalis]

It's 12pm I have been waiting all day for an update where is it?

[Deathbroker]

Turn the game on SE please.

[Deathbroker]

http://www.chatzy.com/144542738582 temp chatroom for those of you waiting on word from SE

[Anela]

Give us SOMETHING, PLEASE!!

[Silvermane]

chances of ffxi being back up tomorrow ZERO! but on the plus side ive bought wow and got lv29 in 4 days with 3 areas 100% complete

[kitykat]

Would be nice if they would at least open POL and let us all chat there =P (fingers crossed)


Time 12:20 a.m. Just had a mental image of everyone in this time zone opening POL and trying to log in just to see if they could...lolz

[Aymee]

Would be nice if they would at least open POL and let us all chat there =P (fingers crossed)

Actually, that would be kinda cool, but I wonder if it's even possible. When the game is being patched, POL stays up, but when there's true downtime to deal with hardware or critical problems, everything is turned off. I'm not sure what exact connection there is to powering up some things with or without others. You'd have to ask ^^;

[Odorf]

I kinda hope that those in charge of restoring server viability are sitting in their dark, cool rooms, rocking an old-school game of pong on a 240" screen... or that they translated some of these classy postings by self-centered miscreants... and by a feat of poor translation (a-la babelfish), believe that instead of ;_;<Save me square!>, they read a plea to keep the game down... so that poor players could have more time to finish their twelve-step programs and/or mainline some new-fangled drug called Canada.

Playing games is awesome. Playing a surrogate for life, which takes precedent in your mind/spirit/heart over people struggling to live their life, is not awesome. Too many of our brethren are in the grips of their Final Reality... and we're crying about Final Fantasy.

[svengalis]

3:43pm and still no word :(

[Anela]

3:43pm and still no word :(

any odds they will wait till 11:59pm till they post an update on the situation??

[Symbiote]

any odds they will wait till 11:59pm till they post an update on the situation??

you mean 11:59pm eastern time, just to add in that extra bit of rage when we read that the down time will continue another week.

[Anela]

you mean 11:59pm eastern time, just to add in that extra bit of rage when we read that the down time will continue another week.

No, I mean 11:59 JP time... still on the 22nd after all......

[Sesono]

I kinda hope that those in charge of restoring server viability are sitting in their dark, cool rooms, rocking an old-school game of pong on a 240" screen... or that they translated some of these classy postings by self-centered miscreants... and by a feat of poor translation (a-la babelfish), believe that instead of ;_;<Save me square!>, they read a plea to keep the game down... so that poor players could have more time to finish their twelve-step programs and/or mainline some new-fangled drug called Canada.

Playing games is awesome. Playing a surrogate for life, which takes precedent in your mind/spirit/heart over people struggling to live their life, is not awesome. Too many of our brethren are in the grips of their Final Reality... and we're crying about Final Fantasy.

Well... some are closer to the situation, some aren't ...after all, life moves on. There is no point in standing still since we can't change it! We surely share the same feelings about what happend, but most of us are just too far away to bothered any further ~ sounds hard, but thats life, thats reality.

Even some japanese players are hoping that the game will come back soon ~ so they have the opportunity to lay back, chill and just have a few hours off from all the mess around them.

[Symbiote]

No, I mean 11:59 JP time... still on the 22nd after all......

Mine was a joke. I meant that they would probably wait until then.

[Anela]

Mine was a joke. I meant that they would probably wait until then.

:) hehe okidokes... just a lil frustration showing thru....:(

[Cenz]

I kinda hope that those in charge of restoring server viability are sitting in their dark, cool rooms, rocking an old-school game of pong on a 240" screen... or that they translated some of these classy postings by self-centered miscreants... and by a feat of poor translation (a-la babelfish), believe that instead of ;_;<Save me square!>, they read a plea to keep the game down... so that poor players could have more time to finish their twelve-step programs and/or mainline some new-fangled drug called Canada.

Playing games is awesome. Playing a surrogate for life, which takes precedent in your mind/spirit/heart over people struggling to live their life, is not awesome. Too many of our brethren are in the grips of their Final Reality... and we're crying about Final Fantasy.

omg another self righteous *bleep* screamin of how they are somehow better people b/c they arent voicing they want to play this game as much of the rest of us.... lol... you are obviously checking forums... so honestly are u any different? i have said as little as possible ... im not one for virtual conflict... but damn man why hate on people that want to enjoy what they have for years ... you dont know why they enjoy it ... u dont know they dont have a life outside of ffxi ... so why make dumb presumptions ... this is a ffxi forum .. for people to voice content or discontent with game related issues... Why is that soooo hard for people to understand... i come to this forum to find usefull info and its filled by people crying about people crying... i just want an update ... or i want to read about a specific topic depending on the forum i select.... yet what i get is a heap of *bleep* like this ... lol okay ive said my piece... and i only picked ur post b/c it was the last one i came to .... take it for what it is ... deal wit it ;p

now on another note i hope we at least get an update soon ... def anxious to get back into the swing of things .. hope all is heading in the right direction SE... for game and country ^^

[Odorf]

I respect your opinion, and understand that it's annoying to hear people "hating on haters" or whatever you want to classify it as. However, we're both doing the same thing. I am disappointed at people's reaction and valuation of a game... and express it. You are disappointed that I expressed myself. Both are whining about something. *shrug*. My point is that I would find great humor and irony in the bleeding-bung antics of some of the "addicts" further perpetuating their problems via a language barrier / translation.

That being said, I visit the forums for the same reason as you, and my opinions don't make me self-righteous... they make me somewhat cynical.

[Cenz]

I respect your opinion, and understand that it's annoying to hear people "hating on haters" or whatever you want to classify it as. However, we're both doing the same thing. I am disappointed at people's reaction and valuation of a game... and express it. You are disappointed that I expressed myself. Both are whining about something. *shrug*. My point is that I would find great humor and irony in the bleeding-bung antics of some of the "addicts" further perpetuating their problems via a language barrier / translation.

That being said, I visit the forums for the same reason as you, and my opinions don't make me self-righteous... they make me somewhat cynical.

no def not the same thing .. and tbh simplify your opinions and u might not come off so much as i described.. enjoyment isnt an addiction its pleasure ... that in fact can be a number of things .. in this forum the "enjoyment is ffxi" ... lol im simply saying if u wanna bash people for the "addiction" as u so point it out do it somewhere else so i can hear the info i would, along with others, like to hear... not u preaching on/or making fun of people who state there game orientated opinons on a game orientated forum... do u understand what im trying to say? once again im not much for virtual confrontation so i will leave it at that ... i used you as an example ... just hoping people might get the sense to avoid bashing.. so im glad u feel all edumacated with the fancy ying yang ... but people want "enjoyment" back including myself and thats all the fella u blasted had in mind weather or not they voiced it correctly

[Cenz]

furthermore odorf maybe the ... "You know your addicted when...." forum might be more appropriate for your opinions

[svengalis]

Hello. The review session to restart services was held by the concerned parties this morning. The aggregate total of data dictacting how much power it would take to resume services is now being compiled and reviewed. We will let notify you when we match our findings with the current status of power supply (which is continuously being monitored/revised.Please give me a little more until a formal countermeasure is decided. My best regards.

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have been following the Japanese Playonline forum:

It was posted by a Dev Team member. - copied from alla

[Anela]

Hello. The review session to restart services was held by the concerned parties this morning. The aggregate total of data dictacting how much power it would take to resume services is now being compiled and reviewed. We will let notify you when we match our findings with the current status of power supply (which is continuously being monitored/revised.Please give me a little more until a formal countermeasure is decided. My best regards.

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have been following the Japanese Playonline forum:

It was posted by a Dev Team member. - copied from alla

*sigh* It would be nice if one of them would post it on the English forum... Thank You tho

[Cenz]

Hello. The review session to restart services was held by the concerned parties this morning. The aggregate total of data dictacting how much power it would take to resume services is now being compiled and reviewed. We will let notify you when we match our findings with the current status of power supply (which is continuously being monitored/revised.Please give me a little more until a formal countermeasure is decided. My best regards.

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have been following the Japanese Playonline forum:

It was posted by a Dev Team member. - copied from alla

Kinda of assumed but ty for taking the time to update us ... wouldve been nice to hear some sort of official report on the english forums lol .. still a lets wait and see situation ... hope for the best! ..... i think they should make raist a Dev team member.... his updates were phenominal ;p

[Zatch]

Hello. The review session to restart services was held by the concerned parties this morning. The aggregate total of data dictacting how much power it would take to resume services is now being compiled and reviewed. We will let notify you when we match our findings with the current status of power supply (which is continuously being monitored/revised.Please give me a little more until a formal countermeasure is decided. My best regards.

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have been following the Japanese Playonline forum:

It was posted by a Dev Team member. - copied from alla

yay an update ^^ glad to hear it.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

News service restart game (3 / 22)

With the tight electricity supply and demand caused by the earthquake off the northeastern Pacific Ocean, we have to conserve power for co-operation, March 13, 2011 (Sun) 19:00 server down temporarily from the game, this Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XI and PlayOnline service ("Service") that we have temporarily suspended because the service stood up the prospect of resumption will be announced.

Server power consumption is responsible for this service, the Company's total power consumption of 11.6% in Tokyo (February 2011 actual figures) are accounted for. Thus, the halt of the office air conditioning (8.8%), and lighting and other power saving efforts, 10 percent of total power and save more than worth it, we conduct today.

This allows saving measures, and the server can be running again was temporarily suspended so far, Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XI: March 25, 2011 and the PlayOnline service (Fri) 20:00 (Japan time ) will resume.

Much more for service and support operations on the part of the official PlayOnline web site and this service was suspended, will resume at the same time.

In the future, in case of power supply and demand situation to deteriorate further, again, it might pause to pause and Services server, please be aware beforehand.

The temporary suspension of the Service, you apologize for the inconvenience to our customers. As we guide you when you suspend the Service, Final Fantasy XI: With regard to the temporary halt due to this, you will be free and monthly charges for April 2011.

Group is unprecedented for this serious disaster, as well as actively supporting the reconstruction of the earthquake relief effort affected areas, we work to provide stable products and services, continue to thank you.

From:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/3367

That should be 6am PST Thirsday.

[Foxclon]

Sorry for the delay in bringing you this, but we have just announced that normal service will resume from 11am (GMT) / 4am (PDT) on the 25th of March. Please refer to the news post for further details:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/3374

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Sorry for the delay in bringing you this, but we have just announced that normal service will resume from 11am (GMT) / 4am (PDT) on the 25th of March. Please refer to the news post for further details:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/3374Foxclon something about your post being the 666th post in this thread makes me happy. lol

[Dantel]

News service restart game (3 / 22)
In the future, in case of power supply and demand situation to deteriorate further, again, it might pause to pause and Services server, please be aware beforehand.

That should be 6am PST Thirsday.

Might as well keep it down if SE cant work comfortable in their work enviroment why should we play!
SE should think about is it worth?
am sure if the server is just up for a weeken (friday to sunday) the majority of the ffxi would go crazy wanting it back up!
I i see leave it down untill you can run everythign at at least 100%

[Dantel]

Foxclon something about your post being the 666th post in this thread makes me happy. lol

Failed yours is 666 foxclon is 667

[Ordoric]

i shal be waiting. and omg i m soooo happy im actualy off thsat day wooooooot

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Failed yours is 666 foxclon is 667His was there and the front page only said 666. Interesting.

[RAIST]

667 is the 666th reply, as the inital post is #1. All depends on how you're looking at it I guess (posts vs. replies).

[Noitra]

An important announcement regarding the suspension of game service has been posted on the Information section. Please click the link below to view the official announcement.

Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake (http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news20541.shtml)

Please be advised that we will continue to operate the official websites, forums, and the SQUARE ENIX Support Center to be able provide our customers with updates on the current situation.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and thank you for your understanding of this unusual situations.

During the Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake , Can we change our race or names in the game ?
I would really like to... This will cheer other players too, because some people chossed a race without knowing the gameplay.
I took Hume race 5-6 years ago, and after few years from registerd in this game, I was hoping that we get an option to that once every 2-3 years. People like the change itself.
I think SE should let us do that when they operate the game.
Also SE isn't really going to lose anything when they let us change our race or names. They are just files...

[Darksavage]

I agree with Dantel, all thought it does sound like the the electric company in japan has a good plan to get the power going as i seen yesterday they will be around 80% at the end of April, but i do not think it is so important that we play our game if the people running it are having to sit in uncomfortable conditions. also over all wont the servers over heat without the AC? I really like the fact SE is willing to do this and i really with at the end of his post he would have been like and a lot of you people say we don't care. I guess that just isn't the Japanese way. I just hope that when the United States goes though something like this we have the ability to be as calm as the Japanese people. I truly have a unbelievable amount of respect of the people and how they are handling this situation. My work may be sending me over to help (I work for the government) and we they called me in there office yesterday and asked me i could say yes fast enough.

[RAIST]

During the Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake , Can we change our race or names in the game ?
I would really like to... This will cheer other players too, because some people chossed a race without knowing the gameplay.
I took Hume race 5-6 years ago, and after few years from registerd in this game, I was hoping that we get an option to that once every 2-3 years. People like the change itself.
I think SE should let us do that when they operate the game.
Also SE isn't really going to lose anything when they let us change our race or names. They are just files...

They've been really reluctant to allow such changes. Not sure just what their hangup is. Maybe I just got spoiled by the old Java/SQL camp I used to work for. It can get pretty complicated depending on the type of database and connectors being used. Regardless though, I would expect the GUID would be bound to either your POL ID or toon's name, so it should be easy enough to change it if that's the case. If they are using something like a SQL compliant engine, it SHOULD be a simple enough task--kind of a script that says basically where field xyz=old name update xyz=new name. But who knows just how they have the data laid out--they could be doing some funky view of an AS/400 style file/field layout that winds up complicating things more than need be, but was necessary for the speed.

[RAIST]

I agree with Dantel, all thought it does sound like the the electric company in japan has a good plan to get the power going as i seen yesterday they will be around 80% at the end of April, but i do not think it is so important that we play our game if the people running it are having to sit in uncomfortable conditions. also over all wont the servers over heat without the AC? I really like the fact SE is willing to do this and i really with at the end of his post he would have been like and a lot of you people say we don't care. I guess that just isn't the Japanese way. I just hope that when the United States goes though something like this we have the ability to be as calm as the Japanese people. I truly have a unbelievable amount of respect of the people and how they are handling this situation. My work may be sending me over to help (I work for the government) and we they called me in there office yesterday and asked me i could say yes fast enough.

Most server farms have a seperate cooling system for their server rooms. One common practice is to have a "false" floor installed, and a seperate AC system pumps air under the floor that is then vented/pulled up into the cabinets to assist in cooling.

[Honshiriuru]

I read that post.Thank you employees of Square Enix for this sacrifice,so we can play your wonderful game.It is greatly appreciated.I only wish the best for you,your families and your country,in this time of great hardship.

[Manicora]

leave the game off till you can run everything at 100%
Why suffer more?

[Vlaid]

Yeah, regardless of their current comfortability; Square-Enix stock has plummeted during this past week. A lot of their investors need to see that the company is still going to be moving forward. They've already cancelled the production of "Gun Loco," a game which they've already sunk a considerable amount of time/money into. I'm sure they can't afford to keep putting servers down.

[Samunai]

Operating the servers for these services makes up 11.6% of the total power consumed by our Tokyo office (based on February 2011 records). We have shut down our air conditioning system (8.8%) and enacted other power conservation measures, such as reducing lighting in our offices, to achieve over 10% in energy usage reductions. With these energy saving measures in place, we will be able to bring our servers back online and restore service to FINAL FANTASY XIV, FINAL FANTASY XI, and PlayOnline on Mar. 25, 2011 11:00 (GMT). All other services, such as those offered on the PlayOnline website, that were temporarily suspended will also be restored at the same time. Please be aware, however, that we may once again be required to suspend services in the event that the power situation worsens.

DUDE, deep respect for you guys! seriously :D lets /cheer for SQEX! :D

[Kitheren]

SE shut down air conditioning and adjusted their lighting to bring our games back.

I hope everyone appreciates this.

Thank you, SquareEnix.

[Kitheren]

Wait... is there some sort of cooling system specifically to keep the servers cool or did that just poof with the A/C going?

[RAIST]

Wait... is there some sort of cooling system specifically to keep the servers cool or did that just poof with the A/C going?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1718-Temporary-Suspension-of-the-Services-Due-to-an-Earthquake?p=47445&viewfull=1#post47445

[Kitheren]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1718-Temporary-Suspension-of-the-Services-Due-to-an-Earthquake?p=47445&viewfull=1#post47445
Ahh, that makes sense. But we do not have word from SE that they do that so we can only guess until they confirm it.

[Cenz]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1718-Temporary-Suspension-of-the-Services-Due-to-an-Earthquake?p=47445&viewfull=1#post47445

Raist your back! ... I do have to say i agree, giving all i have read i have a whole new respect for all of japan... not just b/c of the servers coming back on and the sacrafice nec to do so... but b/c of how they have dealt with everything. I cannot say i would have been able to do the same. I hope in the end this will not cause further distress just so we can play. I will show full support for further adjustments and am excited to continue with ffxi for a long time to come. thankyou everyone at SE.

[Bunni]

That's good news! I say this because it would mean that electricity would be somewhat stable at least. It may not be fully but at least it's a start! I've been watching the news from TEPCO's website about the Daichi reactors and knew they were slowly getting things back (with outside power) I just didn't think it'd be this quick. Certainly some good news. :)

[Alistaire]

SE shut down air conditioning and adjusted their lighting to bring our games back.

I hope everyone appreciates this.

Thank you, SquareEnix.

Yeah anyone else feel what they wrote was worded in a way implying they could have done this from the start?

[Topdogg]

http://www.chatzy.com/144542738582 27 ppl here atm

[leonorado]

thankyou SE but isnt it snowing out there why would they have A/C on anyway lol

[Exellius]

TBH SE thtas amazing that you guys are trying everythign possible to get our game bk online even with everything that has happened, i was expecting atleast 1-2month being down idc how long is sad whats going on over there

[exe]

To our friends and moderators at SE:

In response to the general opinion on this forum as well as several others in regaurds to the current situation in Japan would it be possible to build an "opt-in" button" on the POL or FFX main screen to donate the waived April billing fees to the Red Cross or Other humanitarian organization currently helping in Japan. Thus making a one time mass contribution from your customer/fan base shortly after your servers come back online.

[Thiront]

Greetings from Carbuncle! Let me just say I returned to FFXI after taking a couple month break from the game. I am a veteran player and left and returned with bitter-sweet feelings. I enjoyed my time off but, but missed my friends and the COMMUNITY feeling that SE has provided us with in playing the game WE choose to pay for. If you aren't happy with their decision, BOYCOTT them then. To the people at SE, I hate abyssea, I think it ruined this game, but please take care of yourselves and families and don't rush anything on behalf of some of the idiot americans I'm sorry to have to share this country with. So to all of you selfish, simple-minded fools, I hope SE decides to cut service till June just to give you all time to seek the professional help you need. It is disgusting to see players of a game that relies on teamwork and community to show such childish behavior. It is disappointing to see what I thought seperated us from WoW players seems to be a bunch of BS.

[svengalis]

Wow thank you SE. No AC and your still in your offices never heard of anyone doing that.

[Thiront]

Let me also add, I took some advice from a couple fellow posters on here and contributed my April monthly fee to the American Red Cross for the disaster relief effort. Exe, you a good guy and had a great suggestion with your "opt-in" idea. I encourage other players to show what kind of community we really are and help Japan move past this and continue to prosper and create the games we love to play.

[mysiam]

thank you SquareEnix for sacrificing your own comfort in the Tokyo offices to be able to bring the FF online severs back up! I always thought you were the best game developer and this confirms it! Good luck and love to all in Japan!

[Bilonn]

thankyou SE but isnt it snowing out there why would they have A/C on anyway lol

Just imagine how many computers are running in that building. Everyone working there has at least one, and they're on constantly for them to do their jobs. Printers, scanners, copiers, and all other electronics too.

Electronics generate heat. In office buildings with that much tech running, you generally keep AC on almost constantly to keep it all cooled.

Even if it is snowing outside, they'll be a bit on the warm side inside in certain spots.

[Drivont]

why does FFXIV's forum say 4pm and FFXI's say 4am? :9

[Gakaroth]

why does FFXIV's forum say 4pm and FFXI's say 4am? :9

because A: FFXI is better B: FFXI has a larger fanbase and C: was most likely a misstype.

[Vlaid]

Just imagine how many computers are running in that building. Everyone working there has at least one, and they're on constantly for them to do their jobs. Printers, scanners, copiers, and all other electronics too.

Electronics generate heat. In office buildings with that much tech running, you generally keep AC on almost constantly to keep it all cooled.

Even if it is snowing outside, they'll be a bit on the warm side inside in certain spots.

I'm fairly certain that a company as well established as Square-Enix would have the forsight to purchase a few box fans in order to keep crucial systems cool during brown-outs/black-outs =P

[Tsukino_Kaji]

because A: FFXI is better B: FFXI has a larger fanbase and C: was most likely a misstype.I vote for D: All of the above.

[Vold]

Greetings from Carbuncle! Let me just say I returned to FFXI after taking a couple month break from the game. I am a veteran player and left and returned with bitter-sweet feelings. I enjoyed my time off but, but missed my friends and the COMMUNITY feeling that SE has provided us with in playing the game WE choose to pay for. If you aren't happy with their decision, BOYCOTT them then. To the people at SE, I hate abyssea, I think it ruined this game, but please take care of yourselves and families and don't rush anything on behalf of some of the idiot americans I'm sorry to have to share this country with. So to all of you selfish, simple-minded fools, I hope SE decides to cut service till June just to give you all time to seek the professional help you need. It is disgusting to see players of a game that relies on teamwork and community to show such childish behavior. It is disappointing to see what I thought seperated us from WoW players seems to be a bunch of BS.

Yes, keep judging the entire NA player base because 10 of them here show no passion for Japan. Also let's forget about every english speaking person here who has shown passion for Japan.

[Thiront]

@ Vokl:I know it's easier to quote me and see a flaw in me challenging our spirit of community. I am not judging you, you are judging me friend. If you are offended in what I say then perhaps you should re-read what you actually posted. I challenge people to think and my comments were simply to have them question their own selfish priorities. One player on a later post was commended by me for sharing that same idea of community, to help prove me wrong....so prove me wrong bud. Make a donation to a charity to support Japan with the 12 bucks or w/e SE is saving you instead of attacking me for trying to send a positive message to people with entitlement issues they have. If you are showing sympathy for Japan, then I wasn't talking about you in the first place bud.

[Haglaz]

i've personaly donated my aprils FFXI payment and lots more. I love the community of this game, played it since PS2 NA beta. And it's the one thing i've seen slip into nothingness in the recent years. Kudos Thiront!

[Thiront]

Four years ago we wouldn't even be debating this lmao! People would just enjoy the break and kick some money to Japan to lend a helping hand. Unfortunately most of them quit and now the people we have brag about level 90 jobs they leveled AFK in abyssea so I'll let you figure out my point XD. And Haglaz, me too bro, I started the same time you did, thanks for showing me that there is still hope left!

[Tsukino_Kaji]

There was just another quake in Ibaraki-ken.

[Cruentus]

Sorry for the delay in bringing you this, but we have just announced that normal service will resume from 11am (GMT) / 4am (PDT) on the 25th of March. Please refer to the news post for further details:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/3374

Are you sure that's enough time? After all, Japan's disaster relief needs come before our fun.

[RAIST]

Are you sure that's enough time? After all, Japan's disaster relief needs come before our fun.

getting the impression that the power supply may be improving soon. Latest overview of TEPCO's sites:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032218-e.html

If some of these sites that are down for inspection/repairs can come back on soon, things will be looking better.

[Anela]

@ Vokl:I know it's easier to quote me and see a flaw in me challenging our spirit of community. I am not judging you, you are judging me friend. If you are offended in what I say then perhaps you should re-read what you actually posted. I challenge people to think and my comments were simply to have them question their own selfish priorities. One player on a later post was commended by me for sharing that same idea of community, to help prove me wrong....so prove me wrong bud. Make a donation to a charity to support Japan with the 12 bucks or w/e SE is saving you instead of attacking me for trying to send a positive message to people with entitlement issues they have. If you are showing sympathy for Japan, then I wasn't talking about you in the first place bud.

/nod ... The original post was clearly only aimed at the "anti-social" types..

[Strife]

We have shut down our air conditioning system (8.8%) and enacted other power conservation measures, such as reducing lighting in our offices, to achieve over 10% in energy usage reductions. With these energy saving measures in place, we will be able to bring our servers back online and restore service to FINAL FANTASY XIV, FINAL FANTASY XI, and PlayOnline on Mar. 25, 2011 11:00 (GMT).

Lol SE squinting & sweating for their players! Thanks guys & thanks for the update I'm glad to see things are improving enough for services to resume. My thoughts & best wishes to you & to all of Japan for a quick & full recovery.

Quake info:
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html
Please donate if you can^^

[Vlaid]

Lol SE squinting & sweating for their players! Thanks guys & thanks for the update I'm glad to see things are improving enough for services to resume. My thoughts & best wishes to you & to all of Japan for a quick & full recovery.

Quake info:
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html
Please donate if you can^^

LOL. Its 43 degrees Farenheit in Tokyo atm. I doubt anyone is sweating in the office <____<

[Thiront]

You guys need to stop having earthquakes! I know it seems kinda tough but lets get you all fixed up instead!

[Alhanelem]

http://www.chatzy.com/144542738582 27 ppl here atm
We at FFXIclopedia also have an IRC chat network with many users, you can simply point your favorite IRC program to irc://irc.ffochat.com

Popular IRC clients include mIRC, chatzilla (just google 'em) and many others. www.mibbit.com provides a web-based IRC client, but using a dedicated application is ideal and gives you a lot more options. There are people online at all hours of the day. Come chat with us! :D

[BurnNotice]

Damn, that was a tough call. Personally, I would rather for you guys (SE) to get some sort of stability first. Besides having to conserve power by cutting backing on things, including the usage of the A/C, there is a possibility that the servers may go down again. Well, I hope this idea was well planned. Not saying the servers should stay down longer, but I hope there isn't any gray spots in this idea to be over looked.

[Sethimothy]

Yay! Looks like the energy crises has found a way to keep its head above water and the servers can go back up. Everything is going swimmingly.

Never mind the fact that blackouts continue to be a problem, and even more energy could have been saved with these new energy cutting methods plus keeping the servers down another week.

Ah well, if I see any Japanese players on, I'll be sure to greet them warmly. Just not with a /wave, they hate that for some reason.

[cnedra]

try a /bow

[Ronalas]

Working with no ac half lighting to go to a shelter afterwards doesnt sound great to me. But i can see the other side of the coin. Going to work would allow some sort of normal activity and allow people to take there minds off the disaster. I say take your time and dont rush the servers back up just to turn them back off.

[Guardian]

Greetings from Carbuncle! Let me just say I returned to FFXI after taking a couple month break from the game. I am a veteran player and left and returned with bitter-sweet feelings. I enjoyed my time off but, but missed my friends and the COMMUNITY feeling that SE has provided us with in playing the game WE choose to pay for. If you aren't happy with their decision, BOYCOTT them then. To the people at SE, I hate abyssea, I think it ruined this game, but please take care of yourselves and families and don't rush anything on behalf of some of the idiot americans I'm sorry to have to share this country with. So to all of you selfish, simple-minded fools, I hope SE decides to cut service till June just to give you all time to seek the professional help you need. It is disgusting to see players of a game that relies on teamwork and community to show such childish behavior. It is disappointing to see what I thought seperated us from WoW players seems to be a bunch of BS.

You want to give any particular examples, or you just posting to be insulting? And the -entire- game isn't built around co-op play, or they wouldn't have made a solo oriented job like BST. Frankly, I hate dealing with people 90% of the time, because of people's 'childish behavior'. If I ever seem hateful towards others in game, just think of this. Been on since 2002, on three servers, with at least 30+ dyna LS's. And I STILL DON'T have Windy OR Jeuno wins! Some fkin idiot ruins the run towards the end EVERY time. So yeah, I get sick of people easily. Ok, off topic, going back to bed. Later. ~.~

[Namo]

cool game! for gukumatz from japan

http://www.usamimi.info/~minifla/Gukumatz.swf

[IT_76]

With all of the flaming and sympathy going on, I believe there are some things being overlooked. SE is a multi-million dollar corporation. The company I work for is also. SE is down. My company is not. My company is based in Hong Kong. While I understand that Hong Kong isn't in Japan, that certainly isn't the point. The point is that a global company that relies 100% on its servers for revenue should have backups in other countries. For most educated IT leaders, that's just 'common sense'. I think SE just realized that perhaps the costs involved with disaster recovery might be worth it, and they currently look like amateurs. They haven't updated anyone on the current status. Their main site still says it's down for maintenance. The Playonline portion of the application still tries to connect without any appropriate feedback about the earthquake. If we measured their company by the rule of nines, I wonder where they would fall this year? Is there any idea on when it's going to come back up?? They said a week and it's been longer, but I guess looking as if they have an idea of what's going on would be too much to ask?

http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=it_management&seqNum=90

With that said, I do feel bad about natural disasters happening. It's a horrible thing.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

With all of the flaming and sympathy going on, I believe there are some things being overlooked. SE is a multi-million dollar corporation. The company I work for is also. SE is down. My company is not. My company is based in Hong Kong. While I understand that Hong Kong isn't in Japan, that certainly isn't the point. The point is that a global company that relies 100% on its servers for revenue should have backups in other countries. For most educated IT leaders, that's just 'common sense'. I think SE just realized that perhaps the costs involved with disaster recovery might be worth it, and they currently look like amateurs. They haven't updated anyone on the current status. Their main site still says it's down for maintenance. The Playonline portion of the application still tries to connect without any appropriate feedback about the earthquake. If we measured their company by the rule of nines, I wonder where they would fall this year? Is there any idea on when it's going to come back up?? They said a week and it's been longer, but I guess looking as if they have an idea of what's going on would be too much to ask?

http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=it_management&seqNum=90

With that said, I do feel bad about natural disasters happening. It's a horrible thing.

SE is not 100% dependent on their servers, and sorry but there was no way for a company to prepare for something like this, hell they did, but not to the degree of what really happened. Also we do know when the servers are coming back up, it is tomorrow.

[RAIST]

With all of the flaming and sympathy going on, I believe there are some things being overlooked. SE is a multi-million dollar corporation. The company I work for is also. SE is down. My company is not. My company is based in Hong Kong. While I understand that Hong Kong isn't in Japan, that certainly isn't the point. The point is that a global company that relies 100% on its servers for revenue should have backups in other countries. For most educated IT leaders, that's just 'common sense'. I think SE just realized that perhaps the costs involved with disaster recovery might be worth it, and they currently look like amateurs. They haven't updated anyone on the current status. Their main site still says it's down for maintenance. The Playonline portion of the application still tries to connect without any appropriate feedback about the earthquake. If we measured their company by the rule of nines, I wonder where they would fall this year? Is there any idea on when it's going to come back up?? They said a week and it's been longer, but I guess looking as if they have an idea of what's going on would be too much to ask?

http://www.informit.com/guides/content.aspx?g=it_management&seqNum=90

With that said, I do feel bad about natural disasters happening. It's a horrible thing.

I am guessing you haven't read a lot of the posts on this forum. All of this has been hashed out in exhausting detail in other threads...so here is a bit of a recap for you:

They've been working on a reduced crew, as a considerable portion of there staff left the area to be wtih family or went back to their home nations. They share power with critical systems on their same grid (practically neighbors with both a hospital and a police station). Government and power company requested they consume power in their 23 story building, so they complied. It was a decision reached in roughly two hours, not a whole lot of time to take action to replicate all their data on short notice. This has been the only incident to hit Japan on this scale since before SE was even an idea, much less constructed (many say the worst since 1923). They most likely did some sort of cost analysis towards off-site replication of their 4 divisions housed in that building, but determined the cost was too disproportional to try to replicate 30+ servers running two-way data transactions data gobally to 500k+ users at any given time off site in another country, and likely elected a localized backup strategy instead.


Oh, and by the way....they already announced two days ago that servers come back online on the 25th....in roughly 8 hours. They are going to be cutting off many features throughout the building--including the building's main AC system and reducing the amount of lighting used-in order to offset the additional electrical load folr running their servers.

[Neika]

I thought the servers come up in 11 hours... 7 am EST

[RAIST]

I thought the servers come up in 11 hours... 7 am ESTyeah.. brain fart... looked at my clock and forgot to add the time difference... point is, they announced a time if he/she would have just looked.

[IT_76]

I think you missed most of my post, if you think there's no way a company could be prepared for this... Should I support my stand more?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://www.disasterrecovery.org/
http://searchenterprisewan.techtarget.com/definition/disaster-recovery-plan

There's no reason for a company, that makes millions of dollars per month and has been established for years, to not have a disaster-recovery plan. That's my professional opinion, and I believe that most professionals in the IT industry would agree.

[Neika]

Oh ya definately! just making sure I had the time right :D

^ to Raist's post :D

[RAIST]

I think you missed most of my post, if you think there's no way a company could be prepared for this... Should I support my stand more?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disaster_recovery
http://www.disasterrecovery.org/
http://searchenterprisewan.techtarget.com/definition/disaster-recovery-plan

There's no reason for a company, that makes millions of dollars per month and has been established for years, to not have a disaster-recovery plan. That's my professional opinion, and I believe that most professionals in the IT industry would agree.

The RELIABLE low latency solutions required to support the real-time replication on the scale of both the FFXI and FFXIV projects were not even available until recent years--Infineta released theirs in 2010 I think, and that carries a HARDWARE cost of upwards of 250k per cluster you upgrade just to run the software. I and others have already looked at this extensively for the arguments in other threads.

Again, this has been debated to death in other threads... please stop. If you want to start up the debate again, please search the forum for threads on the topic and post there.

This is NOT the place for it.

[IT_76]

And again, I counter with... other companies are up... Are you honestly still suggesting that disaster recovery is out of the question? You do realize how fast fiber optic lines are, right? 500k+ users isn't very much, and having them spread out over 30 machines makes it even easier to handle the load... Have you ever considered how many people use Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft? Do you think they would go down for a week and a half, had the same thing happened at their primary site?

Stop defending the situation when there is really no excuse for it... other than greed... There's not a financial, technical, or otherwise-understandable excuse for the extreme amount of downtime...

[Strife]

...
SE isn't solely responsible to you, like all of us it's also responsible to the community in which it operates and to me shutting down the servers voluntarily & at cost to the company was very responsible & for the devastating scale of the disaster only being off-line for ~12 days seems more than reasonable to me. They've rightly waived your fees & kept us pretty well up to date -though of course we all would've liked daily updates because each day without FF stings like a snake bite. They're donating 1mil yen to the disaster relief fund & amidst trying to get their own house in order they've found time to put together fund raising projects across multiple platforms to help the community. To my outside opinion they seem to be fulfilling their obligations to all their stake holders pretty well.

Don't forget FF isn't a hospital or a school it's a game service SE sells you & just like your local supermarket that doesn't stock your favourite brand of peanut butter one month they're not obligated to sell it to you. You wouldn't start protesting outside your local store if they stopped selling your peanut butter for no reason, complaining “but they're a multi million dollar company they should sell my peanut butter!” So why are you complaining about SE suspending a game when they have a very good reason? Also SE does more than just FF XI & XIV both projects I'm sure would only be allocated a limited amount of SE resources.

Sure SE isn't just their servers just like your life isn't just your house but you have your neighbourhood levelled then see how many dinner parties you throw that week. If my friends came around while I was trying to help put my neighbourhood back together demanding dinner & drinks I'd tell them to either pick up a shovel & help out or gtfo of my rubble!

Why don't you use the time you spend lamenting your brief lose of FF doing something constructive to help the real victims of this terrible tragedy? Contact your local Red Cross I'm sure they can suggest something to fill up those hours of boredom.

Japan quake info:
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html
Please donate if you can or contact your local Red Cross & ask how you can help.^^

[Kailea_Nagisa]

And again, I counter with... other companies are up... Are you honestly still suggesting that disaster recovery is out of the question? You do realize how fast fiber optic lines are, right? 500k+ users isn't very much, and having them spread out over 30 machines makes it even easier to handle the load... Have you ever considered how many people use Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft? Do you think they would go down for a week and a half, had the same thing happened at their primary site?

Stop defending the situation when there is really no excuse for it... other than greed... There's not a financial, technical, or otherwise-understandable excuse for the extreme amount of downtime...

you are clearly a troll that is just trying to stir up crap, please leave, like RAIST said we have discussed this to hell and back, and again and again....... No company would have been prepaired for that kind of disaster, and I am sorry but they did have recovery plans, but their community was more important, as it should be.

we where out of access of a GAME for roughly a week and a half, boo friken hoo

[RAIST]

And again, I counter with... other companies are up... Are you honestly still suggesting that disaster recovery is out of the question? You do realize how fast fiber optic lines are, right? 500k+ users isn't very much, and having them spread out over 30 machines makes it even easier to handle the load... Have you ever considered how many people use Google, Yahoo, or Microsoft? Do you think they would go down for a week and a half, had the same thing happened at their primary site?

Stop defending the situation when there is really no excuse for it... other than greed... There's not a financial, technical, or otherwise-understandable excuse for the extreme amount of downtime...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2769-SE-you-have-a-Worldwide-Franchise-and-your-support-is-a-let-down.?p=34449&viewfull=1#post34449

from this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/2769-SE-you-have-a-Worldwide-Franchise-and-your-support-is-a-let-down.?p=33785&viewfull=1#post33785

Forum search is a wonderful thing. This is just one of the many threads where ALL of this has been researched/debated until our eyes bled.

Please, no more feeding this troll... one post already reported.

[IT_76]

SE isn't solely responsible to you, like all of us it's also responsible to the community in which it operates and to me shutting down the servers voluntarily & at cost to the company was very responsible & for the devastating scale of the disaster only being off-line for ~12 days seems more than reasonable to me. They've rightly waived your fees & kept us pretty well up to date -though of course we all would've liked daily updates because each day without FF stings like a snake bite.

They said it would be down a week, and posted an update 9 days later >.>


They're donating 1mil yen to the disaster relief fund & amidst trying to get their own house in order they've found time to put together fund raising projects across multiple platforms to help the community. To my outside opinion they seem to be fulfilling their obligations to all their stake holders pretty well.

They're donating 1 mil yen, but can't afford disaster recovery? Strange...


Don't forget FF isn't a hospital or a school it's a game service SE sells you & just like your local supermarket that doesn't stock your favourite brand of peanut butter one month they're not obligated to sell it to you. You wouldn't start protesting outside your local store if they stopped selling your peanut butter for no reason, complaining “but they're a multi million dollar company they should sell my peanut butter!” So why are you complaining about SE suspending a game when they have a very good reason? Also SE does more than just FF XI & XIV both projects I'm sure would only be allocated a limited amount of SE resources.

If my local supermarket gets hit by an earthquake, I can travel to another one... I don't have to do without for a week and a half...


Sure SE isn't just their servers just like your life isn't just your house but you have your neighbourhood levelled then see how many dinner parties you throw that week. If my friends came around while I was trying to help put my neighbourhood back together demanding dinner & drinks I'd tell them to either pick up a shovel & help out or gtfo of my rubble!

If I made enough in one month to pay for a house in another country and I could live there temporarily without losing my paycheck, I would pay to have the house rebuilt while relaxing in my other house.


Why don't you use the time you spend lamenting your brief lose of FF doing something constructive to help the real victims of this terrible tragedy? Contact your local Red Cross I'm sure they can suggest something to fill up those hours of boredom.

Japan quake info:
http://www.google.com/crisisresponse/japanquake2011.html
Please donate if you can or contact your local Red Cross & ask how you can help.^^

While it is certainly tragic, SE could have had servers up in another country while their primary servers were down in Japan (and thus still conserving power and helping out their community). As for helping out, I see that you are spending way more time here than I... Perhaps the community would be better served if you got a shovel, especially since you're protecting the interests of the company making the profits, rather than the interests of the stakeholders that are paying for the product. ;)

[RAIST]

@ IT_76
Unfortunately, this forum does not have a Private Messaging feature, so I am going to have to publicly ask you once more to please not troll this thread. There are plenty of other threads debating this issue. Again, I point you to the search feature. Search on a terms like Disaster Recovery Plan, Backup Plan, or even just Data Replication and I assure you, you will find more appropriate threads for these debates.

That's your last handful of peanuts. Please, everyone-no more feeding the troll.
Post reported.

[Strife]

@ IT_76
Please, everyone-no more feeding the troll.
/nod will do.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

@ IT_76

That's your last handful of peanuts. Please, everyone-no more feeding the troll.
Post reported.

I have to agree, will do.... or would that be wont do?.....

[Kraatos]

so, when exactly are the servers gonna be up?

[Anela]

so, when exactly are the servers gonna be up?

About 5 more hours

[Kraatos]

well jesus D:
i thought they said 11 am JP time on march 25th?