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Cannia
03-14-2011, 11:39 AM
To all the trolls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgj33BlfGMc

from Green Lantern : First Flight

Character: Sinestro
Role: Main Villain

Volkai
03-14-2011, 11:44 AM
Aren't the servers in California? It's the electricity in Japan that is the problem. If people can't be disciplined enough to conserve their own electricity, then others shouldn't have to pay. Tragedies happen every day in the world, children die of hunger or aids, and yet we are all on the game complaining about something as trivial as not being able to get the empress hairpin to drop. What makes this tragedy any different?

NO, they are not. The servers are in Japan, where there is considerable instability in the power grid at the moment, which is why the servers have been temporarily taken offline.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 11:44 AM
SO here for all ur whiners bout servers here and servers there ANother power plant has exploded in japan so yeah you really think having there back up servers etc is important to them...

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 11:45 AM
all the main servers are in japan... yes but california is where there other headquarters are which im sure has all the back up servers etc data and all.

Guardian
03-14-2011, 11:47 AM
I offer my sincere condolences to SE employees and their families and the Japanese people as a whole. I 100% agree with your decision to suspend services. I was actually slightly surprised to have service the day of/after the quake. My brother works with the Red Cross in NYC and will be leaving for Japan on Monday so its kinda personal for me. My thoughts are to all involved. I am disgusted at the people who feel this was a bad move and SE's fault.

P.S. Good chance I will get flagged,ban,w/e for this but I don't really care, I hate heartless, self-centered individuals: Umbrion, Guardian, Gropitou and to a lesser extent a few others, your nothing but trash to me no explanation needed. If you individuals or anyone else who shares your opinion on this matter feels this is too much to deal with, feel free to contact me and ill gladly send ya nooses or let ya sit in my garage with the car running free of charge. FFXI and the real world don't need ya!

I posted without feeling really towards them turning off our service, or for those affected by the disaster. You respond with hate. This is exactly why I don't care in the slightest for humanity. So thanks again for validating the reason I feel that way. /goodbye

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 11:51 AM
I posted without feeling really towards them turning off our service, or for those affected by the disaster. You respond with hate. This is exactly why I don't care in the slightest for humanity. So thanks again for validating the reason I feel that way. /goodbye

Well that's why I got so pissed off today. I wasn't typing with selfishness in mind or emotion, yet people reacted to me with complete anger.

Volkai
03-14-2011, 11:51 AM
Well now, time to pray for those of us who believe in God...
Uhm, maybe those of us that pray should pray for everyone, not JUST the people who believe in a god?
It's the other way around. Marivell's phrasing was poor, but what was meant was:

The time for those of us who believe in God to pray has come.
Hopefully that phrasing is more understandable to you.



I posted without feeling really towards them turning off our service, or for those affected by the disaster. You respond with hate. This is exactly why I don't care in the slightest for humanity. So thanks again for validating the reason I feel that way. /goodbye
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. (Hey, if you have zero empathy, I have zero cause for reciprocation.)


Well that's why I got so pissed off today. I wasn't typing with selfishness in mind or emotion, yet people reacted to me with complete anger.
A lot of emotions are running raw right now, so it's easy for people to overreact, especially when given what appears to be a good target for negative emotion, such as someone who appears to care more about a video game than lives at stake -- regardless of the truth of the situation. It's unfortunate, but it's how it is.

Delani
03-14-2011, 11:54 AM
I posted without feeling really towards them turning off our service, or for those affected by the disaster. You respond with hate. This is exactly why I don't care in the slightest for humanity. So thanks again for validating the reason I feel that way. /goodbye

Let's hope this poor emo kid gets some help very soon. We should send him some aide in his time of distress. Afk going to store to get some razors, black eyeliner, and a bathtub stopper. ((*Please forgive my ugliness but some of his posts lead me to believe he is "emotionless" for the sake of being "emotional" if that makes any sense. (HURRY LOOK AT ME I AM EMOTIONLESS AND NOTHING MATTERS IN THIS WORLD)))

Guardian
03-14-2011, 11:55 AM
Did you not read the part where I said I saw many Japanese playing on the game yesterday too? Or did you conveniently leave that part out so you can make it look like I'm a complete idiot? Did you also see that if I had the money, I'd go out there right now and help? Life doesn't stop... even for the many people in Japan. After they've picked up the pieces, they will be trying to keep living life as normally as they can. Don't pretend they won't be. As I read deeper into the power situation, I do understand why SE did what they did today. But it still doesn't account for their lack of a backup by having servers elsewhere or whatever. I'm sure SE isn't happy about not collecting April's fees from millions of customers next month. I'm not blaming SE and I'm not a moron. I just think there's a lot of us that think SE could have been better prepared or done something differently. After all, if our service had been interrupted IMMEDIATELY from the earthquake, I don't think ANY of us would be on here mad about the interruption. It's that our gaming life seemed uninterrupted for THREE DAYS AFTERWARDS. Unless you spend your life glued to the TV media's nonstop coverage (which I'm not because I don't have TV), then you don't really realize a lot of what's going on over there, so it's hard to understand why after three days of continued service, the servers have to be shut down. It's because of people on here who are posting news tidbits about the power and nuclear facilities that I'm beginning to understand why.

THANK YOU. I wouldn't have said a thing if the servers went down same day. Them waiting 1-2 days to decide this was important enough to cancel is what really gets me.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 11:57 AM
Well that's why I got so pissed off today. I wasn't typing with selfishness in mind or emotion, yet people reacted to me with complete anger.

nothing i said was really directed towards u yeah some ppl do say things thats not ment to be selfishness or emotionalless but some do take that way, like What im sayin to zid is im not saying he's being slefish or anything im saying plan n simple im sure there's a back up server by that dude Umbrion or wtf ever yeah him he deserved what everyone said to him cause that was totally uncalled for. that was pure selfishness.


btw, jus askin anyone here from ramuh or alexander?

Guardian
03-14-2011, 11:57 AM
Let's hope this poor emo kid gets some help very soon. We should send him some aide in his time of distress. Afk going to store to get some razors, black eyeliner, and a bathtub stopper. ((*Please forgive my ugliness but some of his posts lead me to believe he is "emotionless" for the sake of being "emotional" if that makes any sense. (HURRY LOOK AT ME I AM EMOTIONLESS AND NOTHING MATTERS IN THIS WORLD)))

So your saying I should die because I don't feel the way you do for others? Odd. I thought the majority of the posts were from "decent" people. lol

azjazo
03-14-2011, 11:59 AM
I just came back from meeting my friends (read, I have no problem with the servers down, I have a life and whiners should do the same, that is, IF they have any friends) and tried to catch up on the thread and well the trolls keep being trolls it seems, but they seem to try to hide behind the "you are just saying that to be politically correct" ok, as movie bob said, you're not being "politically incorrect" you are just being a jerk....

for reference: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2783-Correctitude

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:00 PM
THANK YOU. I wouldn't have said a thing if the servers went down same day. Them waiting 1-2 days to decide this was important enough to cancel is what really gets me.

well Guardian... fact of the matter is yes they thought it was bad and maybe they should shut it down same day but no one new that there power plant reactors were gonna start blowin off leaving them with less n less power supply so there for not saying u were being selfish or anything but no one coulda really knew not even them. so truethfully them waitin a day or so was them relaly not thinkin they were gonna lose a power supply cuase they didnt start losing power supplys till some time saturday.

Volkai
03-14-2011, 12:01 PM
So your saying I should die because I don't feel the way you do for others? Odd. I thought the majority of the posts were from "decent" people. lol
Your utter apathy to the plight of people in Japan due to this disaster is found by many here to be in extremely poor taste. Due to this, many people here are inclined towards a disfavorable reaction to what you post.

It's not that you should die, it's that you should either stop posting and focus on relearning the meaning and purpose of empathy, or stop posting so as to cease drawing the ire of your fellow posters.

Otherwise you're painting a giant target on yourself for the rather significant amount of anger and negative emotion that natural disasters tend to generate yet tend not to give an adequate target for.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:01 PM
but jus curious if i knew any of you guys from Alexander or Ramuh server

Delani
03-14-2011, 12:02 PM
Look. It's already been said, but yeah. Lots of people are hurt/dead/dying. It's horrible. I'm sure lots of you feel for them and all, as do I. Just not as much as I do having my favorite time killer interrupted. My father died in Katrina, didn't really care about that either. He was a worthless womanizing hypocrite. It's not so much that I'm a cruel person, it's simply that I'm sick of humanity as a whole. I've seen pretty much the worst from people, so excuse me if I seem heartless in saying I care more about my game time than I do for however many lives are lost. That being said, good luck to all of those affected.

I mean seriously come on dude you said you care more about your game time than a human being's life. And no I don't want you to die. You however act like an emo attention seeking child, so I feel that you need your emo gear paired up with you, so you feel more comfortable in your world. I am a grown person, I do not wish death upon anyone. I could by this post picture you in a bathtub with red food die holding a razor in one hand an iphone in another hand and posting ur pic on fb so your friends would see how hardcore emo and cool you were.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:02 PM
THANK YOU. I wouldn't have said a thing if the servers went down same day. Them waiting 1-2 days to decide this was important enough to cancel is what really gets me.

I know a lot of people (including myself) felt the same way right after reading the news from SE before understanding how bad the power situation was getting over there. it's not wrong to feel that way. One person suggested that if I had the money, I'd be in Japan in front of SE picketing to turn our service back on. Uh..... NO.

Guardian
03-14-2011, 12:02 PM
Look, it seems you morons haven't figured out why I posted to begin with. I wanted to see exactly how many of you would go from bleeding hearts to DIE YOU MF'er HEARTLESS TRASH from one post to the next. It was amusing for a bit, but seeing your rampant stupidity gets old after a while. Take care our JP friends (in game and in RL) and do what you have to do SE. I'll wait as long as needed. Back to FFT.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:04 PM
Your utter apathy to the plight of people in Japan due to this disaster is found by many here to be in extremely poor taste. Due to this, many people here are inclined towards a disfavorable reaction to what you post.

It's not that you should die, it's that you should either stop posting and focus on relearning the meaning and purpose of empathy, or stop posting so as to cease drawing the ire of your fellow posters.

Otherwise you're painting a giant target on yourself for the rather significant amount of anger and negative emotion that natural disasters tend to generate yet tend not to give an adequate target for.

And I continue to think it's poor taste to keep berating people who don't feel the same way you do about... whatever.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:06 PM
Square isn't going to move their servers Naturebeckles, mainly because, they don't need to... You're an idiot from the start and you're continuing to remain one. Stop looking at this as some business perspective and realise that the servers are only located in Japan and deal with the fact that where they'll remain.

The servers are down because they're listening to their government to conserve power... Fukushima Daiichi reactor 3 -just- had a hydrogen explosion. For those who are unaware, this is the second explosion at the same plant but different reactor.

Volkai
03-14-2011, 12:07 PM
Look, it seems you morons haven't figured out why I posted to begin with. I wanted to see exactly how many of you would go from bleeding hearts to DIE YOU MF'er HEARTLESS TRASH from one post to the next. It was amusing for a bit, but seeing your rampant stupidity gets old after a while. Take care our JP friends (in game and in RL) and do what you have to do SE. I'll wait as long as needed. Back to FFT.
Oh, so you're a troll. Good to know.



And I continue to think it's poor taste to keep berating people who don't feel the same way you do about... whatever.
It's not because someone feels differently, it's because someone's acting like a jackass.
Coincidentally, Nice Job defending a troll. (See above.)

I replied to YOUR earlier post, by the way, but you probably missed it since my post was at the bottom of a page. ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1718-Temporary-Suspension-of-the-Services-Due-to-an-Earthquake?p=17286&viewfull=1#post17286 )

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:08 PM
Look, it seems you morons haven't figured out why I posted to begin with. I wanted to see exactly how many of you would go from bleeding hearts to DIE YOU MF'er HEARTLESS TRASH from one post to the next. It was amusing for a bit, but seeing your rampant stupidity gets old after a while. Take care our JP friends (in game and in RL) and do what you have to do SE. I'll wait as long as needed. Back to FFT.

I wanna play final fantasy Tactics but my PS3 said GTFO lol the mother board finally got fried so i gotta send it to sony /sigh

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:10 PM
Square isn't going to move their servers Naturebeckles, mainly because, they don't need to... You're an idiot from the start and you're continuing to remain one. Stop looking at this as some business perspective and realise that the servers are only located in Japan and deal with the fact that where they'll remain.

The servers are down because they're listening to their government to conserve power... Fukushima Daiichi reactor 3 -just- had a hydrogen explosion. For those who are unaware, this is the second explosion at the same plant but different reactor.



Exactly there GOvernment is the one doing this but No need to call nature a moron i understand what she is tryin to say but its not like she is sayin That if she wasnt there she wouldnt help all i can say is no one has said anything as wrong as Umbrion has with how he reacted yes we are all reacting in different bout this upset/mad they are shut down but some are reaacting careless to whats going on which is there own personal opinion and but Umbrion was jus wrong with his comment

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:14 PM
Exactly there GOvernment is the one doing this but No need to call nature a moron i understand what she is tryin to say but its not like she is sayin That if she wasnt there she wouldnt help all i can say is no one has said anything as wrong as Umbrion has with how he reacted yes we are all reacting in different bout this upset/mad they are shut down but some are reaacting careless to whats going on which is there own personal opinion and but Umbrion was jus wrong with his comment

I have Moink blacklisted, so I got to see what he/she said because you replied to it. He's not God, so he has no idea what SE is going to do, whether they move them or not. None of us know. SCORE!

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:15 PM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

THis is the worst post i have seen by far in this forum.. this guy needs to grown up
Zidian this is the main person who i was talkin bout when we were talkin i was jus saying i understand ur point but there are more things for SE to worry bout right at this moment in time.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:15 PM
Oh, so you're a troll. Good to know.



It's not because someone feels differently, it's because someone's acting like a jackass.
Coincidentally, Nice Job defending a troll. (See above.)

I replied to YOUR earlier post, by the way, but you probably missed it since my post was at the bottom of a page. ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/1718-Temporary-Suspension-of-the-Services-Due-to-an-Earthquake?p=17286&viewfull=1#post17286 )

Yeah, I saw that. And I've been reading early today and now the same anger attitude towards other people and I'm just sick and tired of seeing it... whether it be towards a troll or not.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:17 PM
I have Moink blacklisted, so I got to see what he/she said because you replied to it. He's not God, so he has no idea what SE is going to do, whether they move them or not. None of us know. SCORE!

Your absolutely right know one knows whats going to happen with the next few days or weather ff will be up in a week or a month no one can say for sure but they are gonna worry bout that when the time comes right now isnt the time for them to worry bout what there gonna do but i do get what ur saying.

Delani
03-14-2011, 12:17 PM
Beckles I seriously wasn't berating for his opinion. I read all of your posts and never berated you or felt the need to. You never once said anything horrible about lives being less important than a game. And like I said this dudes a troll, and said what he said for the sake of getting attention. He is the type that has the i dont care type attitude in a public manner. People that really don't care arent going to waste their energy getting attention on a forum. I respect anyone's opinion. What I don't respect is someone acting like a monster to another human being for the sake of attention.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:17 PM
The government has them and many other companies to simply turn off items not needed to survive. Get off your high horse and understand the underlying business that has been adressed to both SE and other companies located in Japan.

Volkai
03-14-2011, 12:18 PM
Yeah, I saw that. And I've been reading early today and now the same anger attitude towards other people and I'm just sick and tired of seeing it... whether it be towards a troll or not.

It is this feeling that ought to be a red flag for you, that it is time to take a step back, close the forum tab in your browser, and focus on something else for a while. You'll feel better for it.

Selzak
03-14-2011, 12:18 PM
It doesn't matter if SE is racist, they only care about the Japanese, and they decided to take a moment of silence for the victims of the quake- It's still just a video game and some of you are weighing it against a real life tragedy. Even if you're right, you're still wrong. This game means nothing relative to the deaths of thousands of human beings. Even if SE just got sad and decided to kill the game forever, you all still need to grow up and gain some perspective.

The reality of it is that Japan needs to conserve power, so SE decided to shut down its FFXI servers to do just that. Does it suck for our selfish need to play FFXI? Sure. Should SE have servers in other locations? Maybe, we don't know the details of that situation. Regardless, it is what it is. The game needs to drain power in Japan to run, so the game has been suspended for a week or so. End of.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:19 PM
It doesn't matter how long it takes to get FF back up and running, what matters most importantly is that Japan gets back up and running. Luxury items such as FF can wait.

PizzaTheHut
03-14-2011, 12:19 PM
It gets worse, I just saw video on the news that their third unit has exploded but no radiation from it or something. And the new aerial videos of all the damage left over...where do you start to clean all that? Hate been powerless to help :(

Laotian_king
03-14-2011, 12:21 PM
Some people have no understanding how the world operates and if something were to out of the ordinary, they whine and complain. Today, I read a few posts from people who are so incredibly single minded that they disregard the respect for human life to fulfill their selfish needs of playing this game. It really saddens me to read of such things but I guess this is what makes us human, and when SE reads these forums those few bad apples will stand out even though a majority of the world sympathize the pain that mother nature can inflict. But I want to assure the people of Japan based on my experiences (and trust me I've been to many parts of the world) as a Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps that there good people in the world and they out weight the rotten ones by more than numbers can sum up, so please don't let these few ignorant individuals paint the wrong picture of how the majority of the world actually is.
To my friends, family and everyone affected by this: I pray and hope for your safety.
To my Marines stationed in Japan: You guys are probably working nonstop in the relief efforts since you normally respond to my emails promptly, so stay focused on the task at hand and know that you guys are doing a great thing. Semper Fi.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:22 PM
It is this feeling that ought to be a red flag for you, that it is time to take a step back, close the forum tab in your browser, and focus on something else for a while. You'll feel better for it.


Uh, I did. I colored my friend's hair, gave her husband a haircut and went out to dinner with them. Doesn't mean I can't get irritated at several people getting angry at others for their feelings/opinions.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:23 PM
It gets worse, I just saw video on the news that their third unit has exploded but no radiation from it or something. And the new aerial videos of all the damage left over...where do you start to clean all that? Hate been powerless to help :(

It was a hydrogen explosion similar to reactor 1, this was to be expected. The actual building is not the containment field and that itself remains intact and as long as it does so, there will be no disaster like Chernobyl.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:23 PM
Even if you're right, you're still wrong. .


I laughed really hard. this statement out of the whole thing is EPIC

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:25 PM
It doesn't matter how long it takes to get FF back up and running, what matters most importantly is that Japan gets back up and running. Luxury items such as FF can wait.

exactly. Yes, i agree with Selzak does suck i mean i jus finished masamune i wanted to play with it more but meh it can wait the more important fact is japan gets back up n running 1. cause thats what they need for them, 2. cause there one of US's number 1 trade suppliers. Japan goes down US takes another dive and right now US cant afford that so there for The US is gonna do all they need to help Japan out. both of the governments will be workin together and frist step for japan was shuttin down anything thats a major power supply "Final fantasy" i truely dont think SE wanted to but they have no choice

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 12:25 PM
Beckles I seriously wasn't berating for his opinion. I read all of your posts and never berated you or felt the need to. You never once said anything horrible about lives being less important than a game. And like I said this dudes a troll, and said what he said for the sake of getting attention. He is the type that has the i dont care type attitude in a public manner. People that really don't care arent going to waste their energy getting attention on a forum. I respect anyone's opinion. What I don't respect is someone acting like a monster to another human being for the sake of attention.

I"m cool with that. But, I don't view most people on here as "monsters"... that's a pretty emotionally charged statement. Trolls do what they do to laugh at others for their emotional reaction at the stupid stuff they say. It doesn't mean they're actually heartless monsters who feel no sympathy for other people. They're bored... on here to mess with people for laughs.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:25 PM
It gets worse, I just saw video on the news that their third unit has exploded but no radiation from it or something. And the new aerial videos of all the damage left over...where do you start to clean all that? Hate been powerless to help :(

Yes i have heard n saw, its only gonna get worse before it gets better we can only hope n pray they they can salvage n rebuild japan .

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:28 PM
Some people have no understanding how the world operates and if something were to out of the ordinary, they whine and complain. Today, I read a few posts from people who are so incredibly single minded that they disregard the respect for human life to fulfill their selfish needs of playing this game. It really saddens me to read of such things but I guess this is what makes us human, and when SE reads these forums those few bad apples will stand out even though a majority of the world sympathize the pain that mother nature can inflict. But I want to assure the people of Japan based on my experiences (and trust me I've been to many parts of the world) as a Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps that there good people in the world and they out weight the rotten ones by more than numbers can sum up, so please don't let these few ignorant individuals paint the wrong picture of how the majority of the world actually is.
To my friends, family and everyone affected by this: I pray and hope for your safety.
To my Marines stationed in Japan: You guys are probably working nonstop in the relief efforts since you normally respond to my emails promptly, so stay focused on the task at hand and know that you guys are doing a great thing. Semper Fi.

Yes the singled minded selfish need is only part of human nature yeah they can be blamed for the actions but what can u do. We are only human and its whats gonna make the world go around. but i get what ur saying. i have some friend in japan as well that i know from this game. and some that are in the military. and i wish them luck and know there working non stop

Altron
03-14-2011, 12:31 PM
Our prayers are with you and the city of Japan...I hope that you will get through and everything will back to normal soon.. God Bless

myrla-elphaba
03-14-2011, 12:31 PM
Im not going to say I don't care about what happened over in Japan, bc I do, and I'm sorry it happened, but America has had hurricanes hit the gulf, earthquakes left and right, the towers etc, and you don't see them suspending any activity over there for us. Its stupid of SE to even think that they would be able to just center FF11 in Japan and then cut them down bc of an event that affects them. They need to make more stations to help keeping their services going. Just bc your neighbor stubs his toe, doesn't mean he should come next door and make you stop doing something you spend your time on.

If SE has a time turner and 2001 miraculously became 2003-4 (which I believe is when XI came out originally in America) that would be a concern.

Also, No offense - 9/11 happened in a 3-5 state area on the East Coast. Not an entire country, like is what is happening in Japan right now. (and before ANYONE yells at me about this - I had a friend die in the Pentagon, it touched me even though I was living in the Midwest at the time - but it did not directly affect me, physically, in the Midwest of the US. This is what I am saying. Please do not flame me over this.)

Please do not continue to show your ignorance by comparing natural disasters (which cannot be stopped) to man-made ones (like 9-11). SE did something for people that suffered in Katrina, it has been said here by someone who actually was helped by it. We have not had an earthquake this powerful on the US Mainland in many, many, many years. (Excluding Alaska, we're talking New Madrid series of Earthquakes in 1811-12, and the 1906 in SF)

If people feel the need to troll, write your post then walk away for an hour. Don't push send. When you get back, read it, and think "Does this really sound like me? or is this just something to make the situation worse or better?"

Kraatos: I was on Alexander, and still have many friends on it.

Delani
03-14-2011, 12:32 PM
In my opinion if you seek laughter from anywhere on the basis of human suffering, that is a sign of sociopathy. Not to mention I am a mother, a woman, and have friends/family in Japan right now. In an earlier post, one of whom was missing until today. To be told his life was less important than a video game was a blow to , and that statement was a monstocity. I guess me being berated for my opinion of someone is okay, because it's important to take a troll's feelings into consideration? He may want to get some laughs at the expense of people who are really saddened by all events that have taken place. We are here for comfort. To offer it and get it by our fellow man. Not to troll a forum and get some laughs out of upsetting people by saying hurtful things. I guess we should all be okay with the trolls on Googles person finder going to loved ones posts and changing them from missing to confirmed dead falsely, and posting to people's granparents they "effed" their grandaughter's skull. So I guess irl those trolls really do feel sympathy and dont mean it bc it's done on the internet.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:33 PM
Yes i have heard n saw, its only gonna get worse before it gets better we can only hope n pray they they can salvage n rebuild japan .

Those reactors will never work again because of the salt in the seawater beaing poured into the reactor. Japan has 55 reactors and 3 of them will never work again because of that. A small price to pay but I do know that Fukushima Daiichi had planned for a reactor 7 and 8 to be built...

Reactor 1 was the smallest reactor (producing only 460 MW) to go and reacto 3 being mild (producing only 784 MW). Any new reactors being built would push 1380 MW each.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:36 PM
If SE has a time turner and 2001 miraculously became 2003-4 (which I believe is when XI came out originally in America) that would be a concern.

Also, No offense - 9/11 happened in a 3-5 state area on the East Coast. Not an entire country, like is what is happening in Japan right now. (and before ANYONE yells at me about this - I had a friend die in the Pentagon, it touched me even though I was living in the Midwest at the time - but it did not directly affect me, physically, in the Midwest of the US. This is what I am saying. Please do not flame me over this.)

Please do not continue to show your ignorance by comparing natural disasters (which cannot be stopped) to man-made ones (like 9-11). SE did something for people that suffered in Katrina, it has been said here by someone who actually was helped by it. We have not had an earthquake this powerful on the US Mainland in many, many, many years. (Excluding Alaska, we're talking New Madrid series of Earthquakes in 1811-12, and the 1906 in SF)

If people feel the need to troll, write your post then walk away for an hour. Don't push send. When you get back, read it, and think "Does this really sound like me? or is this just something to make the situation worse or better?"

Kraatos: I was on Alexander, and still have many friends on it.

Exactly do not compare whats going on in japan with what happen with 9-11 etc , i lost a friend due to katrina sucks yeah. As far as 9-11 no didnt lose anyone but i saw the plan hit the pentagon jus didnt know what to say. and if im not mistake this is the largest Earthquake recorded in history so far...?

ahh, i jus came to Alexander from Ramuh lol

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:37 PM
Those reactors will never work again because of the salt in the seawater beaing poured into the reactor. Japan has 55 reactors and 3 of them will never work again because of that. A small price to pay but I do know that Fukushima Daiichi had planned for a reactor 7 and 8 to be built...

Reactor 1 was the smallest reactor (producing only 460 MW) to go and reacto 3 being mild (producing only 784 MW). Any new reactors being built would push 1380 MW each.

Yeah, i get what ur saying.

Delani
03-14-2011, 12:41 PM
There are 3 now? I kinda turned off cnn it was so bad yesterday I have taken a small break from news today. Last I thought it was 2. I wonder how much worse that issue will get before it atleast levels out.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:44 PM
There are 3 now? I kinda turned off cnn it was so bad yesterday I have taken a small break from news today. Last I thought it was 2. I wonder how much worse that issue will get before it atleast levels out.

Yes there are 3 now, i think one jus went recently. i dont have paitence to listen to the news to be completely 100% honest im jus going from what my friend is tellin me .

Vinceroth
03-14-2011, 12:45 PM
Japan isn't as big of a country as the US. So it doesn't seem as large scale bc it doesn't take up a large portion of our country. I used those as a point of referance, not to bring up and cause arguement. If that earthquake hit Cali, and not Japan, do you think they would stop FF11 like they are now? or any other country for that matter. I sound selfless, but its just fact that you can't pause something bc its happening to you and not do it out of respect to others. I understand the not billing out of the fact they can't provide service, but many will expect, and including myself, a reasolution to stopping this from happening in the future if they don't plan on pausing the game for other countries plights.

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:48 PM
There are 3 now? I kinda turned off cnn it was so bad yesterday I have taken a small break from news today. Last I thought it was 2. I wonder how much worse that issue will get before it atleast levels out.

Fukushima Dai Ichi has 2 reactors with problems

Fukushima Dai Ni has 1 reactor with a cooling problem (What makes this one difficult to read is the water level gauges are broken and staff can't get an accurate reading. If any part of the core becomes exposed even for a brief second, the reactor can meltdown just like Fukushima Dai Ichi 1 and 3)

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Japan isn't as big of a country as the US. So it doesn't seem as large scale bc it doesn't take up a large portion of our country. I used those as a point of referance, not to bring up and cause arguement. If that earthquake hit Cali, and not Japan, do you think they would stop FF11 like they are now? or any other country for that matter. I sound selfless, but its just fact that you can't pause something bc its happening to you and not do it out of respect to others. I understand the not billing out of the fact they can't provide service, but many will expect, and including myself, a reasolution to stopping this from happening in the future if they don't plan on pausing the game for other countries plights.

Honeslty they prolly would since they have a Head quaters stationed in California... but NO one really knows and it hasnt happen yet, and people arent sayin ok maybe ur wrong for thinkin that there saying Right now ITS NOT bout us... Its bout them and why they had to do it... period. so weather ur thinkin logically its still a null n void point cause yet that is makin the situation bout u and ur need... thats what people are tryin to say weather ur not tryin to make it sound like that or not thats how it is coming out.
I mean Vince, take this in concideration. Do you realize if it got to the point that it ended up being No japan. 1 ff no one knows what would happen but think bout what would happen to our economy, are u still gonna sit there n be like omg no ff imma cry.... blah blah blah. or u gonna think oh shit i shoulda thought more bout exactly whats truely going on over there cause if them power plants start blowing and the radition gets out its gonna be like a nueclar explosion
so seriously people arent sayin your wrong for thinkin that cause right now ITS not bout us
But like u stated ur self japan is Small. and are u understand that this wasnt SE's desicion.... there Government MADE THEM DO IT...

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:53 PM
Are you going to be mad because Toyota isn't producing another Vehicle too? Or how about sony shutting dow a major Blu-Ray manufactirng plant? Seriously SE isn't the only company to close its doors and quite honestly I'm pretty sure most Japanese are going to know someone who was killed in this tragedy.

Selzak
03-14-2011, 12:55 PM
Japan isn't as big of a country as the US. So it doesn't seem as large scale bc it doesn't take up a large portion of our country. I used those as a point of referance, not to bring up and cause arguement. If that earthquake hit Cali, and not Japan, do you think they would stop FF11 like they are now? or any other country for that matter. I sound selfless, but its just fact that you can't pause something bc its happening to you and not do it out of respect to others. I understand the not billing out of the fact they can't provide service, but many will expect, and including myself, a reasolution to stopping this from happening in the future if they don't plan on pausing the game for other countries plights.
They aren't "pausing the game out of respect." It's a matter of energy consumption because the hardware is physically in Japan. They didn't even do this until days after the quake, so I don't understand how you could believe that it is being done out of some kind of favoritism.

If the game's primary server was in California, and California was struck by a natural disaster which forced the state to conserve whatever energy it had for essentials, then I have no doubt in my mind that SE would do the exact same thing.

Why are so many people so quick to jump to the most offensive possibility they can think of? Furthermore, why do those people just assume that they are correct to the point that they actually argue about it?

Moink
03-14-2011, 12:56 PM
Honeslty they prolly would since they have a Head quaters stationed in California... but NO one really knows and it hasnt happen yet, and people arent sayin ok maybe ur wrong for thinkin that there saying Right now ITS NOT bout us... Its bout them and why they had to do it... period. so weather ur thinkin logically its still a null n void point cause yet that is makin the situation bout u and ur need... thats what people are tryin to say weather ur not tryin to make it sound like that or not thats how it is coming out.
I mean Vince, take this in concideration. Do you realize if it got to the point that it ended up being No japan. 1 ff no one knows what would happen but think bout what would happen to our economy, are u still gonna sit there n be like omg no ff imma cry.... blah blah blah. or u gonna think oh shit i shoulda thought more bout exactly whats truely going on over there cause if them power plants start blowing and the radition gets out its gonna be like a nueclar explosion
so seriously people arent sayin your wrong for thinkin that cause right now ITS not bout us
But like u stated ur self japan is Small. and are u understand that this wasnt SE's desicion.... there Government MADE THEM DO IT...

The contaiment fields have held each meltdowns so far and reactor 1 is cooling down. Highly unlikely there will be a radiation fallout similar to chernobyl.

Kindra
03-14-2011, 12:57 PM
I agree with them shutting the servers down. I and I am also very ok with using Aprils fee for a relief fund. And the add on idea is a good one as well. :)

Myrla any word on Kami yet? I hope hes ok was glad to hear the Others were ok!! I haven't been on early mornings to see them around for a bit. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Japan.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:58 PM
They aren't "pausing the game out of respect." It's a matter of energy consumption because the hardware is physically in Japan.

Why are so many people so quick to jump to the most offensive possibility they can think of? Furthermore, why do those people just assume that they are correct to the point that they actually argue about it?

i dont think its so much people are arguing bout it its more that some people are saying to others there wrong. but the people there tellin that they are wrong are jus going BLAH BLAH BLAH its all bout me , but i get what ur saying

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Posts 36 Are you going to be mad because Toyota isn't producing another Vehicle too? Or how about sony shutting dow a major Blu-Ray manufactirng plant? Seriously SE isn't the only company to close its doors and quite honestly I'm pretty sure most Japanese are going to know someone who was killed in this tragedy.

exactly , its not jus Square-Enix that is effected by this or having to shut stuff down. .

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 12:59 PM
The contaiment fields have held each meltdowns so far and reactor 1 is cooling down. Highly unlikely there will be a radiation fallout similar to chernobyl.

Im jus more speakin worst case seniro is all.
cause at this point anything is going to happen but its not gonna get better so quick

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:00 PM
I agree with them shutting the servers down. I and I am also very ok with using Aprils fee for a relief fund. And the add on idea is a good one as well. :)

Myrla any word on Kami yet? I hope hes ok was glad to hear the Others were ok!! I haven't been on early mornings to see them around for a bit. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Japan.

As bad as i wanna say i dont agree with them lol i DO agree with them 100% my final fantasy withdrawls are going bonkers right now but ill survive.

Altron
03-14-2011, 01:01 PM
I"m sorry but why are you so pricks about this???GDI you care so much of playing the damn game that you could careless of other people. Making money is the last thing on their minds when they country is in devastation. F*** you piss me off just to even people like you play this game...I guess you are one of the stupid people who ruined the game by doing RMT also. (This message is to Vinceroth that get piss off because they had to suspended his damn game...DAMN IT GO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE!!)

Kindra
03-14-2011, 01:01 PM
You will make it Kraatos!! I have faith in you :). (Alustriel btw)

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:06 PM
You will make it Kraatos!! I have faith in you :). (Alustriel btw)

I know i will jus blows monkey butt, i've had the very frist PS3 60gb sicne they were released 5 years ago. And the defect problem they had finally goes up on it, so now i gotta send it to sony and there gonna send me a refurbished 60gb backwards compat. exact model of mine. but yeah sucks i have nothing to do but play on facebook, whild people are here crying n whining over no FF but ill makin.
what are you up too in ur FF bordem withdrawls?

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:08 PM
I know i will jus blows monkey butt, i've had the very frist PS3 60gb sicne they were released 5 years ago. And the defect problem they had finally goes up on it, so now i gotta send it to sony and there gonna send me a refurbished 60gb backwards compat. exact model of mine. but yeah sucks i have nothing to do but play on facebook, whild people are here crying n whining over no FF but ill makin.
what are you up too in ur FF bordem withdrawls?

i mean sucks cause i was lookin forward to salvage tomorrow too but lol salvage gonna be pushed back for a while =(

Altron
03-14-2011, 01:08 PM
wow. how self centered. You would rather see the electricity diverted to a video game rather thank...oh i don't know...HOSPITALS? I would like to say I'm shocked by this posters response but I'm not.

I hope all the Japanese FFXI players are keeping safe and well.

seriously you are a @#$@# pricks..i'm so pissed...you should get a new job..RMT over a game is really not worth it...I sure hope player are not so stupid to support you..really you need help...get some counseling. Sorry this is my first time in the forum..so my posting is kinda off...

this message is or going to the original post of Quote Originally Posted by Umbrion View Post
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

Delani
03-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Some people (myself included) aren't trying to call people wrong and blah blah. I think it's more of an overwhelmed feeling, and shock at some responses. I can totally get people wanting to play, or wanting to talk semantics of what shoulda coulda woulda. I have a hard time with trolls, and tend to get feelings hurt over nasty comments lol. Anyway as I said in my very first post here my heart goes out to all of you in Japan, and hope for you to find some peace and comfort in the coming days, weeks, and months. As for now it's bedtime. Good night all and take care. It was really good to read all of the posts expressing sympathy during such a distressing time for so many. I will also be praying (and I am usually not a praying kind) for my friend Joey (Shamaya) who is in Tagajo City. I am glad he got in touch with his mom, and last I heard all is well, and I hope he isn't cold tonite, and has some sort of heat.

Kindra
03-14-2011, 01:15 PM
@ Kraatos Just watching TV and spending time with Uneac :). Did pick up Dragon age 2 and will start that tomorrow lol. Other then that I have to clean house and such lol. See i am ok without XI i have other games and such i can play and other things I can do. WOuld be bad if I couldn't lol. Have PS3, Wii, Xbox, other comp games, DS, and the TV lol. Not to mention Uneac, Hes the best part :).

Altron
03-14-2011, 01:18 PM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

people like you should be ban from the game...really you don't belong in the street..get counseling...if attention you want..go get it from your parents...i'm sure they didn't raised you the way you are to not cared about anyone but yourself.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:20 PM
@ Kraatos Just watching TV and spending time with Uneac :). Did pick up Dragon age 2 and will start that tomorrow lol. Other then that I have to clean house and such lol. See i am ok without XI i have other games and such i can play and other things I can do. WOuld be bad if I couldn't lol. Have PS3, Wii, Xbox, other comp games, DS, and the TV lol. Not to mention Uneac, Hes the best part :).


well arent u jus a lucky chick i could say something else but lol keep that comment to my self. But yeah i dont even hav PS3 or PS2 for that matter ; ;

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:20 PM
people like you should be ban from the game...really you don't belong in the street..get counseling...if attention you want..go get it from your parents...i'm sure they didn't raised you the way you are to not cared about anyone but yourself.

i Agree
this is the worst post of all.

sasaya
03-14-2011, 01:23 PM
Hello. I was able to take communication with brothers and the relative whom at last a telephone restored, and was in the distant place and confirmation of the safety today.

I think that I am lucky now only by there being life.
Thank you:)

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

Kindra
03-14-2011, 01:24 PM
:) I am sure there are other things you can do to occupy your time with. :) I also read a lot, so books are a good option. :)

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:25 PM
Hello. I was able to take communication with brothers and the relative whom at last a telephone restored, and was in the distant place and confirmation of the safety today.

I think that I am lucky now only by there being life.
Thank you:)

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

glad all is well :)

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:25 PM
:) I am sure there are other things you can do to occupy your time with. :) I also read a lot, so books are a good option. :)


there are im playin face book lolol i dont like to read it bores me

Delani
03-14-2011, 01:26 PM
Hello. I was able to take communication with brothers and the relative whom at last a telephone restored, and was in the distant place and confirmation of the safety today.

I think that I am lucky now only by there being life.
Thank you:)


That is so good Sasaya! My friend that was in Tagajo is okay too! It is very lucky and very good! I am so happy for you that you received good news today. Take care, and bless you. It is also very good telephone's are being restored! :D:D:D

Kindra
03-14-2011, 01:28 PM
Hello. I was able to take communication with brothers and the relative whom at last a telephone restored, and was in the distant place and confirmation of the safety today.

I think that I am lucky now only by there being life.
Thank you:)

http://www.youtube.com/user/sasayaneko

I am glad your family is safe :)

Delani
03-14-2011, 01:28 PM
That is so good Sasaya! My friend that was in Tagajo is okay too! It is very lucky and very good! I am so happy for you that you received good news today. Take care, and bless you. It is also very good telephone's are being restored! :D:D:D

I also loved your videos. They were really good, and have really good meaning.

JagerForrester
03-14-2011, 01:31 PM
I think it's funny you keep trying to bash Umbrion when he's only posted 3 times. U guys know hisfirst post. Here's his others:


lol, this is just too funny

I hope all you guys Lying in some meaningless forum makes you feel good inside.

Serious guys. He ain't worth it. He riled us up good.

Naturebeckles
03-14-2011, 01:32 PM
I think it's funny you keep trying to bash Umbrion when he's only posted 3 times. U guys know hisfirst post. Here's his others:


Serious guys. He ain't worth it. He riled us up good.

That's what trolls love to do. It's not worth hating on them.

Asthesis
03-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Not just a JP issue!
Ok after reading post after post I see alot of sides here. The one that gets me is how almost everyone mentions Japan and SE, but only mentions California when they talk about servers. Has anyone taken the time to wonder or even ask.. IF SE is shut down in Japan, what about the other SE sites? I mean how many people in SE's Cali. office are currently out of a job? Seriously think about it. There is currently no need for GMs, SGMs, Acct. Reps etc etc. Maybe we should offer our support and prayers to these individuals as well, whereas most people in NA at the moment live paycheck to paycheck.
Just another post to put things in perspective. This disaster is NOT limited to Japan.
So on behalf of myself I offer my condolences and prayers not only to our Japanese friends, but also to our SE California workers.

Kindra
03-14-2011, 01:38 PM
there are im playin face book lolol i dont like to read it bores me

See i knew you could do it!!!! :)

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:47 PM
That's what trolls love to do. It's not worth hating on them.

HEY you spoke welcome back :) you got quiets!

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 01:47 PM
See i knew you could do it!!!! :)

shush it kindra before i poke u with my masamune when servers back up ^^

Kindra
03-14-2011, 02:01 PM
shush it kindra before i poke u with my masamune when servers back up ^^

Only get to poke me if your helping me get mine!!! hehehe

Vraelia
03-14-2011, 02:03 PM
I have read replies saying things awful to Japan for FF shutting down. How selfish are you guys? People > Game. Japan, I wish you the best in everything. I hope you all will get better. I am sorry this had happened to you all. ; ; I don't know if this will help but, /hugs /comforts. Please, be well. And you all are in my Prayers. Your lives are more important than some game, so please, take your time with reality.

myrla-elphaba
03-14-2011, 02:05 PM
I agree with them shutting the servers down. I and I am also very ok with using Aprils fee for a relief fund. And the add on idea is a good one as well. :)

Myrla any word on Kami yet? I hope hes ok was glad to hear the Others were ok!! I haven't been on early mornings to see them around for a bit. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Japan.

Nothing, but last I knew he was in Tokyo (I think. I hadn't talked to him in a while, but I'd see him on Xbox live, so...)

I am just hoping no news is good news.

Sasaya:

悪い翻訳を許しなさい。 私はあなたおよび家族が安全、健康であることを望む。 私はいつか会い、すべてに感謝するRagnarokのサーバーおよび希望にある。 安全にとどまりなさい。 投稿をありがとう。

Kindra
03-14-2011, 02:11 PM
Nothing, but last I knew he was in Tokyo (I think. I hadn't talked to him in a while, but I'd see him on Xbox live, so...)

I am just hoping no news is good news.

Sasaya:

悪い翻訳を許しなさい。 私はあなたおよび家族が安全、健康であることを望む。 私はいつか会い、すべてに感謝するRagnarokのサーバーおよび希望にある。 安全にとどまりなさい。 投稿をありがとう。

When the servers go back up i will keep an eye out and keep you informed.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 02:14 PM
Only get to poke me if your helping me get mine!!! hehehe

shit claimed help me get mine lol all tho a few people are butt hurt by it but not gonna menchin any names

Kindra
03-14-2011, 02:19 PM
shit claimed help me get mine lol all tho a few people are butt hurt by it but not gonna menchin any names

just jokeing lol. i am off to bed :).

Tazz
03-14-2011, 02:21 PM
I think its a terrible situation over there in Japan right now SE and our thoughts and prayers are with you, your families, and everyone who is living through such the extreme devastation. I would LOVE to see April's fee's, which you have already agreed to not collect, still be an optional charge where 100% of the funds collected for April would go to rebuild or help the people in Northern Japan and others whose homes, livelihood, and families were affected the most. I would gladly help out where I could :) If this is an option for us, please consider it SE! Could be a great way to allow the members of the vast gaming community a chance to help!!

Lithera
03-14-2011, 02:25 PM
So just reading in general or novels? Btw kraatos this is the same Lithera you know on the doomed to merge server of Alexander. :p also she just said a book, that dun mean novels only ya know. Again I hope that everyone in Japan is alright and that they get the power situation underhand as soon as possible, not just so I can go back to playing the game but so that all of the people effected by this disaster. IE companies outside of japan that rely on things from companies that are based in japan. Like the Japanese car companies other offices for other gaming companies, ect. can go back to work.

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 02:32 PM
I think its a terrible situation over there in Japan right now SE and our thoughts and prayers are with you, your families, and everyone who is living through such the extreme devastation. I would LOVE to see April's fee's, which you have already agreed to not collect, still be an optional charge where 100% of the funds collected for April would go to rebuild or help the people in Northern Japan and others whose homes, livelihood, and families were affected the most. I would gladly help out where I could :) If this is an option for us, please consider it SE! Could be a great way to allow the members of the vast gaming community a chance to help!!

By anychance ur not from Ramuh are you?

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 02:33 PM
So just reading in general or novels? Btw kraatos this is the same Lithera you know on the doomed to merge server of Alexander. :p also she just said a book, that dun mean novels only ya know. Again I hope that everyone in Japan is alright and that they get the power situation underhand as soon as possible, not just so I can go back to playing the game but so that all of the people effected by this disaster. IE companies outside of japan that rely on things from companies that are based in japan. Like the Japanese car companies other offices for other gaming companies, ect.

yeah yeah yeah :P to you too punk! ^_^ ill poke u with my masa too keep stickin ur tounge out!

Lithera
03-14-2011, 02:35 PM
Lol not if I trip you with my staff 1st

Kraatos
03-14-2011, 02:44 PM
Lol not if I trip you with my staff 1st

oh you wont im pretty good with Fudo quick draw :P ill one shot ur mithra butt!

Topdogg
03-14-2011, 02:50 PM
No2.
A taker needs the warmth most in the stricken area of present Japan.
But it seems that I do not mind a contribution.

All people looking at here, nice to meet you.
I am a Japanese.  I am in the stricken area of the big earthquake now.
People learn me in great regret for the cooperation to stopping of the
server by Japanese electricity shortage now.

With all a sole feeling, please watch an original animation of FFXI which I made.
And I ask for mercy to the victim.

EP1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUroyx1ezuc

EP2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KjSj0TCzCc

EP3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxvHZOhWNaE

Final EP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arODrDNcmbQ

I want to have an adventure from now on in all of you and the Vana'diel.:)
Thank you:)

great videos, watched all 4

Flash
03-14-2011, 03:09 PM
My compassion goes out to all the people affected by the quake and tsunami of Japan. This is the worse consecutive natural disaster I've seen. I'm worried about friends that I've lost communication with in Japan throughout the years and praying for their health and survival of their families and loved ones.

HFX7686
03-14-2011, 03:51 PM
I'm hope the best for Japan. The images and videos on the news are absolutely heart breaking.

I am not upset they decided to take the servers off line. I fully support the decision and commend them for doing so. Operation Yashima sounds like the whole country is pulling together.

If they need to be offline for a week or for several weeks, it will be okay. I wouldn't even be upset if they kept charging for the three accounts we have because it's not very much money and I was expecting to pay it anyway. I don't think that it will be harsh on me or any other player.

Shame on those of you who have stated they are angry about this.

Aymee
03-14-2011, 05:15 PM
I've been left without words to describe everything I've seen, heard and read about the current disaster in Japan.

Anyone here as a heartless human being to express anger, I'll even almost give you one benefit of doubt-- it's true that some escapism can be good in times of stress. When lives are still very much on the line, however, even that "excuse" is wholly selfish and disgraceful.

Personally, I would have understood if the servers were going down even for grievance purposes (and was surprised this didn't happen). Because this is out of direct appeal from the Japanese PM and Government on the whole to conserve energy in the wake of the catastrophe, I would hope all players would be understanding. The adjectives I'd most like to use when referring to players expressing anger are certainly a breach of forum rules, lol.


Like many others, I hope that some kind of donation feature can be included either directly, as a directory of charities that Square-Enix support, optional April billing-as-donation, or some in-game item for "purchase" to express solidarity. This could start off the official homepage even before the servers are turned back on, and hopefully it'll be available soon.

Ooh, how about something like a charity walk/run where people offer pledges and the entire player community could participate through some sort of in-game event of quests, monster defeating, etc.? Something like "$1 donation sponsored by _____ per Dominion Op completed". That could be done with some degree of creativity.

Sleven
03-14-2011, 05:24 PM
lmao. wow.....and here i thought trolls like this only existed on FA and SF!XD do you really think ANYTHING you say will piss me off? lmao.....i'm cracking up right now because you are pathetically trying to attack ANYONE who sides with others who don't like you. for the record:

THAT POST WASN'T DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU DUMBASS!

rofl....i still can't get over how stupid people can be at time....LMAO!!! i can't stop laughing!XD

Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your life than sit around flaming everyone who posts stuff on forums?

Mokatu
03-14-2011, 05:25 PM
The fact that the worst since the disaster may not even be over could put the servers out even longer than what they are planning. If they lose their reactors, what backup do they have? They should consider moving the servers to china or somewhere nearby if power would be lost for a long time.

I do wish Japan a speedy recovery. I'm with everyone here. Stay safe out there.

Babyj
03-14-2011, 05:33 PM
Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your life than sit around flaming everyone who posts stuff on forums?

You sir..............got a good point.....

Aniero
03-14-2011, 05:46 PM
I love when trolls expect not to get trolled for their trolling behavior.


Look, it seems you morons haven't figured out why I posted to begin with. I wanted to see exactly how many of you would go from bleeding hearts to DIE YOU MF'er HEARTLESS TRASH from one post to the next. It was amusing for a bit, but seeing your rampant stupidity gets old after a while. Take care our JP friends (in game and in RL) and do what you have to do SE. I'll wait as long as needed. Back to FFT.

Wow, he put the brakes on so hard I can see smoke! Also, Nietzsche would be ashamed, both at your failure to grasp nihilism and for backpedaling and claiming some kind of 'social experiment'. Pretty sure nobody sent you "DIE MF'er" death threats...but I am sure that a forum full of people called you an a-hole...and, rightfully so.

So...no.

Babyj
03-14-2011, 05:50 PM
Call me a troll all you like, i'm just saying only what people don't want to say because it's "politically incorrect". Anyone who places a game over human life should go play in traffic and take their own.

I will put this game over human life everytime.........if the human means absolutely nothing too me......I have friends over in Japan atm but what truly can I do........nothing.....so instead I would love to be playing FFXI, they are a business they should have of thought of contingency plan to not have the servers be dropped.

Aniero
03-14-2011, 06:43 PM
What truly can you do?

Ride a bike.

Kraggy
03-14-2011, 07:33 PM
but there are servers in Japan California and German(I think) why shutdown the ones that are not pulling the power from Japan.
There are NO game servers outside Japan!

Crimoir
03-14-2011, 09:13 PM
my heart goes out to the ones lost (execpt those that work for sony. Personal grudge.) and i understand the shutdown.

but i thought the servers were hosted somewhere in the US O-o but i think the game should be suspened more than a week. like till things are a-Ok down there in Japan.

ok I am a sony fan... but that has nothing to do with this post... WTF!?!?! did you just deny sympathy to the dead, injured, or affected, simply cause you a have a petty grudge against a company!? you may have been trying to be cute but its not funny. thats like saying "i dont care that your family died in a freak car accident, cause your a Lawyer and i hate Lawyers..."

Crimoir
03-14-2011, 09:16 PM
I will put this game over human life everytime.........if the human means absolutely nothing too me......I have friends over in Japan atm but what truly can I do........nothing.....so instead I would love to be playing FFXI, they are a business they should have of thought of contingency plan to not have the servers be dropped.

i hope you get hit in face by a tornado that miraculously only kills you...

Crimoir
03-14-2011, 09:16 PM
wait no i dont im not a dick like you... my bad

Kindra
03-14-2011, 09:28 PM
So just reading in general or novels? Btw kraatos this is the same Lithera you know on the doomed to merge server of Alexander. :p also she just said a book, that dun mean novels only ya know. Again I hope that everyone in Japan is alright and that they get the power situation underhand as soon as possible, not just so I can go back to playing the game but so that all of the people effected by this disaster. IE companies outside of japan that rely on things from companies that are based in japan. Like the Japanese car companies other offices for other gaming companies, ect. can go back to work.

I read just about anything lol. Stephen King, R.A.Salvatore, & True crime are my favorites with a few outside books here and there.

Crimoir
03-14-2011, 09:32 PM
The fact that the worst since the disaster may not even be over could put the servers out even longer than what they are planning. If they lose their reactors, what backup do they have? They should consider moving the servers to china or somewhere nearby if power would be lost for a long time.

I do wish Japan a speedy recovery. I'm with everyone here. Stay safe out there.

THIS IS A GAME!! There is positively NOTHING you can say to prove that shunting down the servers was wrong, cause it wasn't. case closed.

About being prepared for this kind of disaster... ARE YOU STUPID!?!?

point 1: Not cost effective to put redundant game servers in multiple countries for an international game. maintenance is easier if the servers are in the same place.

point 2: NO ONE goes over board to make sure a GAME (sorry if you have no REAL life) will still be running in case of disaster.

one more thing to point out is that the power plant aren't only no giving out power. there liable to EXPLODE and give off radiation fall out

read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393 (//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393)

Masekase
03-14-2011, 09:33 PM
APRIL FOOLS WE STILL CHARGING YOU LOL

Lijandra
03-14-2011, 09:41 PM
Read almost all posts. I can't describe l how I feel reading stupid things, provocations or nonsense jokes. I am italian and few years ago my country was hit by an earthquake that destroyed all the cities in the entire region. Play FF was my last thought. Wouldn't care if SE suspended the game for us...but if we had power necessity I hope they would. What hurts me is the thought you would joke about my friends dead and dying: does make you laugh my cousin was in the middle of disaster? This is offensive to life, is a lack of respect for those whom died and those suffering, whoever they are, even if you don't believe what you wrote in your post.

That being said:

すべての日本人の友人のために私は、ゲームを介して出会い、その家族や友人、私の心は、私の祈りと私の考えはあなたに専念しています。私たちは、すぐに回復する望んでいる明日は良いです。私はスクエアがあなたの国を助けるために私たちのお金を提示願っています。
誰がこのフォーラムにナンセンス書く人を許してください。彼らはこのようなひどいことには笑って、または戦いを引き起こすの書き込み時にはとにかくばかげている。
申し訳ありませんが日本かもしれない間違っているのが、私はイタリアだと私は、翻訳者によって助けられた。

For all the Japanese friends I met through the game, their families and friends: my heart, my prayers and my thoughts are dedicated to you. I wish your country will recover soon and that tomorrow goes better. I hope Square presents our money to help your country.
Forgive those whom write nonsense on this forum: in this tragic moment when they write such things to laugh or provoke fights is stupid anyway.
Apologize for my Japanese, maybe wrong, but I'm Italian and I had to use a translator.

Fincat
03-14-2011, 10:29 PM
The miserable people in this thread make me wish the servers had been in one of those towns that was destroyed by the disaster. Then what would you be doing? Crying more, no doubt.

Everything we have in life is fleeting, and can be taken away at any time. Be glad you're alive and able to post your whining, and not one of the thousands of people who have been without food and water for the past 3 days.

Best of luck and quick healing to those in Japan. (To Mitia, the original WARCAT, I hope you and your family are well. "Chance time")

Komori
03-14-2011, 10:42 PM
Look, like most people here. I'm not happy that the servers and games were shut down. But I would much rather some family, who's freezing, cold and probably trying to help nurse wounded friends and family have the little power they can by me not playing the game for a week or so. Would I have loved for them to have had a back-up plan so we could have continued playing to keep our mind off of this terrible disaster? Yes. But will I go pout and cry because I can't play an online game so that people can be helped and Japan won't face FURTHER problems? Not likely, as someone said before, if this is helping at least one japanese family then I'm fine with it.

Qrushkil
03-14-2011, 11:05 PM
I do not intend what I say next to in anyway compare with the horrific devestation of Japan, our loss was a pittance compared to what the people of that ravaged land are going through. My heart and soul go out to the people of Japan.

Last summer, our house caught fire, burning to the ground in hours and taking almost everything we owned with it. All we had left were the clothes on our backs, and what few possessions we had on us at the time, which include my laptop and my oldest boys Xbox. All five of us play FFXI (Qrushkil, Yippie, Shadowstep, Alkeon, and Javon for those of you in Ramuh who may have seen us around) and we all took turns on the laptop and Xbox playing our games. SE provided us a measure of relief through a very hard time. Now they and the rest of Japan need our help as they pick up the pieces of thier devestated land. Be patient; SE is as loyal to its fanbase as we are to it's games. Give them as much support as you can, however you can; whether through donations or encouraging words, let them know the world is there for them. Give them the courage to go on, to keep hope alive in thier hearts.

I'd like to send out a big "Hiya!" to my peeps in Ramuh; hope you all are doing okay. I would also like to say "Hello" to my soon to be peeps in the Ramuh swallowing server Bahumet. Hope you guys got room for a few nuts, cause we got more than our fair share :)

Hope to see you all on the game real soon.

Qrushkil
03-14-2011, 11:12 PM
I read just about anything lol. Stephen King, R.A.Salvatore, & True crime are my favorites with a few outside books here and there.

Just finished reading Stephen King's Under the Dome. If you have not read it yet, it is definitely worth the time.

Anethia
03-14-2011, 11:14 PM
It's only been a day since the servers were taken offline and I'm already suffering the withdrawal symptoms. But I would rather see the people of Japan get the help they need from the power saved by me not playing than get my last 4 seals for my drg. Am I inconvenienced? Yes I am. But my inconvenience is small beans compared to the disaster our friends across the ocean have suffered and are still suffering. I think SE's decision was the right one (never thought I would say that) and I applaud them for thinking beyond the pocket book. Good work SE, our thoughts and prayers are with you.

To those of you complaining about the servers being offline, that's pretty selfish and uncaring. They are not even going to charge you for april and yet you still complain? How about taking that money your going to save and put it into a emergency relief fund to help with recovery efforts. Thats my plan and it should be yours too. Doing something useful with money, not something hurtful with your words.

Delani
03-14-2011, 11:22 PM
Just finished reading Stephen King's Under the Dome. If you have not read it yet, it is definitely worth the time.

That was a good one. The beginning was mind-blowingly graphic. Very nice ending, and it really made you think! I like Dean Koontz too, even though he tends to do the "happily ever after" in almost every book he writes. The Frankenstein books were pretty decent.

mystery
03-14-2011, 11:23 PM
I totally agree with the option to pay service fee and it being taken to help ppl in Japan. I have 3 accounts and would love to have them take my payment and apply it to a fund for the ppl in need

Jalonis
03-14-2011, 11:47 PM
A week is fine, no big deal. This is an emergency of such a scale that standard disaster planning would have simply been too expensive for too little ROI. However, it has now happened. SE is an international business and needs to be prepared to move servers to a location that can support them if it looks like things aren't going to be operational at the end of the week.

HFX7686
03-15-2011, 12:05 AM
I just saw on CNN that the rolling blackouts will continue to at least April 8th.

Jwoods
03-15-2011, 01:00 AM
I wish to offer my condolences to the familes and friends of thos who's lives were lost in such recent events. As a resident in Louisiana at the time of Katrina and enduring it's wrath I could not better understand such a situation. It is times of such we must ignore the young and foolish who make heartless comments. As a community I see us as a caring bunch who should not be judged by our Japanese friends by the actions of few. I think allowing us to pay our April fee's in support of the victims is ingenious. I myself will always find a way to send aid as it is important we all do not wait on others to respond for us. As seen with Katrina, it was the common man, not the government who brought swift aid. I am proud to be a member of yet another responsive and good hearted community as seen in this thread by our fellow FFXI players....

IceCadaverX
03-15-2011, 01:46 AM
I'm relieved to find that my Japanese friends (and friends who were visiting here recently) are safe. Had me very worried. It's horrible to think something like this can happen and I hope everyone can pull through.

That being said, I see some people complaining about the game being shut down. For the addicts: shut up. Seriously. But I also noticed people complaining because they don't get to play much in the first place and it's an even bigger waste of money. You shut up too. I work two jobs, and spend time with my son when I can (and when my ex isn't being an idiot). I log in maybe once every few days for maybe an hour at a time. I only get decent game time in MAYBE once a week. Sometimes not even that.

But do you see me complaining? No. I have no problem with them shutting down the game. Because they DO need to save power and put it towards more important things. So what? It's just a game, and they said they won't charge us for April. No harm, no foul. Fine by me. Heck, i'd be fine to pay it anyway and have proceeds go to a relief fund or something.

Yes this game is my escape from reality when it sucks. Yes i love games, Final Fantasy, and MMOs. But there are more important things than games. Like a job. Spending time with your sweetie (if you even have one). Spending time with your kids (if you have them). If you're so sad as to not have any of these, then go play a console game. It's a week. Get over it. Big whoop.

I'm going to compensate what little game time I have by spending more time with my wonderful girl, and my son (as long as my ex isn't a total b*tch about it).


That being said, my gf and I wish everyone the best and our hearts go to those in the middle of this disaster.

Sincerely,

Andrev/Treymo (me)
&
Riimo (my lovely lady who just recently came to the game)

Server: Cerberus

Feel free to say hello anytime. Always up for lvling or questing.

Fayez
03-15-2011, 01:47 AM
I didn't know till yesterday about what had happened in Japan, and I've just been watching videos on Tumblr and wasn't expecting it to be as bad as it is. My condolences to everyone who has lost family and friends due the events of late and that Japan are able to recover from the disaster.

Being as I'm a new player to FFXI and still on my free trail for the game, I would still like to be given the option to pay the service fee to help the people that are in need.

IceCadaverX
03-15-2011, 01:57 AM
Dude, Fayez, just saw you couple days ago man. Sorry I wasn't able to help with your subs before service was cancelled. When we get back in i'll still help if you haven't gotten them already.

Fayez
03-15-2011, 02:03 AM
I was thinking it was you when I just read your post. I haven't had time to try and get them yet. Was gona try yesterday, but after what's happened I couldn't. Be a big help though, and I can learn more about the game from you to.

Dale
03-15-2011, 02:04 AM
SE, BAN THIS IDIOT OFF YOUR FORUMS, AND TAKE HIS INFO AND PERMANENTLY BAN HIS ACCOUNT, THANK YOU. Anyone FFXI player heartless enough to write this needs to be made to disappear from FFXI land. Please make it happen.

Will you relax, your post was more hostile than his. A lot of people are going to be dissapointed by SE turning out the lights for a week. MMOs become part of people's daily routines, and a move like this is predictably going to annoy and upset a lot of people - including a lot of the japaneese.

Of course if this is going to help save lives or keep people from losing power it was the right thing to do. If it was just a public relations move then less so - but either way ranting someone an "IDIOT" and having him "PERMANENDLY BANNED" just because he spoke his mind on a forum of all places is what is truly idiotic. Forums are suppose to be bastions of individual opinion and critiques, not say nothing controversial or i'll ban you zones.

IceCadaverX
03-15-2011, 02:12 AM
Yeah man been playing off and on since November of 2004. I'll help ya out.

Aquilla
03-15-2011, 02:15 AM
Me and my siblings have donated the money that would've gone to April's monthly fees to Red Cross for Japan.

I highly encourage everyone who is reading this thread and everyone who plays XI to do so. This is the money that we can all afford to give, and it's going to a good cause. BBC news has a link on their site to where people can go for information and to donate. That link is below.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/50294/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-2011-where-to-get-info-and-how-to-help/

Sleven
03-15-2011, 02:16 AM
Honestly I'm tired of reading posts about "I send my condolences to the ppl of japan etc etc."

It's annoying. If you want to show true sympathy for those lost and in danger then start a fund raiser or post something valid to the cause. Not "I feel bad for the ppl in Japan."

Reason 1: Most ppl in Japan are unable to read the forum d/t electricity.
Reason 2: Many of the affected people don't even play ffxi and would be unable to read the forums that are FFXI specific.
Reason 3: Lastly, if any of the ppl that are affected by this disaster CAN get online to check stuff. They wont be hitting the ENGLISH forums.

Have your sympathies. Just don't post them to make you feel better inside.

Babyj
03-15-2011, 02:19 AM
THIS IS A GAME!! There is positively NOTHING you can say to prove that shunting down the servers was wrong, cause it wasn't. case closed.

About being prepared for this kind of disaster... ARE YOU STUPID!?!?

point 1: Not cost effective to put redundant game servers in multiple countries for an international game. maintenance is easier if the servers are in the same place.

point 2: NO ONE goes over board to make sure a GAME (sorry if you have no REAL life) will still be running in case of disaster.

one more thing to point out is that the power plant aren't only no giving out power. there liable to EXPLODE and give off radiation fall out

read this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393 (//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12733393)

How is it stupid to prepare for the worst? I live where it is cold I went and bought a coat for when it snows. If I lived near a nuclear reactor I am buying an anti-radiation suit. So please tell me when you live somewhere that natural disasters can happen how is it stupid to have contingency plans?

JagerForrester
03-15-2011, 02:32 AM
Honestly I'm tired of reading posts about "I send my condolences to the ppl of japan etc etc."

It's annoying. If you want to show true sympathy for those lost and in danger then start a fund raiser or post something valid to the cause. Not "I feel bad for the ppl in Japan."

Reason 1: Most ppl in Japan are unable to read the forum d/t electricity.
Reason 2: Many of the affected people don't even play ffxi and would be unable to read the forums that are FFXI specific.
Reason 3: Lastly, if any of the ppl that are affected by this disaster CAN get online to check stuff. They wont be hitting the ENGLISH forums.

Have your sympathies. Just don't post them to make you feel better inside.

But when they do check the English Forums, SE mainly, they're going to see how many heart-felt players they have that really care about their well-being and the recovery of their country. Sure they won't read them all, especially the ones that are hate/upset posts and the replies to those. But it's better to let them know you care than not letting them know you care at all. I'd rather see you show your reaction than replying you don't want to read ours.

Sleven
03-15-2011, 02:38 AM
On a thread like this. I want to read about what our community of friends(FFXI subscribers) have actually done to help others. Not their emotional response to something. I personally lack the means to assist them so knowing there are ppl out there doing what they can for the better of other is truely uplifting. But when I have to sift through miles of dribble about how sad they are this is happening but yet do nothing to help it just gets annoying.

Dracaunt
03-15-2011, 02:48 AM
How is it stupid to prepare for the worst? I live where it is cold I went and bought a coat for when it snows. If I lived near a nuclear reactor I am buying an anti-radiation suit. So please tell me when you live somewhere that natural disasters can happen how is it stupid to have contingency plans?

It's risk management. Sometimes it's too costly to prepare for the absolute worst, because the absolute worst might happen once every few hundred, or even thousand years. Take for example The Thames River barrier in London, it will protect against high tides, but not against the floods that happen in that have a 1/3,000 chance happening (that figure was pulled randomly out of my head, I did it as a case study for a geography module like 2 years ago). It's not built to prepare for the absolute worst because it would cost more to built and far more to maintain. Sometimes it's not economically feasible. Japan is pretty much built to withstand strong earthquakes, but not something of this magnitude.

From your analogy, it would be like you buying a coat in your local shop and then trying to cross the Arctic during the coldest period with it. You don't buy a coat in the chance that a super-arctic bizzard is going to cover your area and kill off a large chunk of the population inhabiting the area. The odds of it happening are in the 1:1000's ratio. It would cost too much for you to buy equipment for that, for something that will probably never happen in your area, maybe never.

They have contingency plans for these kind of things, and we can see them being put in place, they did not have infrastructure to withstand this kind of thing. There was a video of a flood barrier with the flood water just going over it carrying boats like they weren't even there.

JagerForrester
03-15-2011, 02:56 AM
Well can't always get what you want. Sorry to say. People are free to express their concerns, as did you.

Babyj
03-15-2011, 03:14 AM
It's risk management. Sometimes it's too costly to prepare for the absolute worst, because the absolute worst might happen once every few hundred, or even thousand years. Take for example The Thames River barrier in London, it will protect against high tides, but not against the floods that happen in that have a 1/3,000 chance happening (that figure was pulled randomly out of my head, I did it as a case study for a geography module like 2 years ago). It's not built to prepare for the absolute worst because it would cost more to built and far more to maintain. Sometimes it's not economically feasible. Japan is pretty much built to withstand strong earthquakes, but not something of this magnitude.

From your analogy, it would be like you buying a coat in your local shop and then trying to cross the Arctic during the coldest period with it. You don't buy a coat in the chance that a super-arctic bizzard is going to cover your area and kill off a large chunk of the population inhabiting the area. The odds of it happening are in the 1:1000's ratio. It would cost too much for you to buy equipment for that, for something that will probably never happen in your area, maybe never.

They have contingency plans for these kind of things, and we can see them being put in place, they did not have infrastructure to withstand this kind of thing. There was a video of a flood barrier with the flood water just going over it carrying boats like they weren't even there.

Okay, I get that, about cost and time efficiency for something to work out. But, not having prepared for the worst cause it is unfathomable does not make sense. If it can happen it will, I mean Japan has some of the smartest people on earth and have none of them ever read/heard/experienced Murphy's Law? And I know that sounds rude and insensitive, but sometimes it takes hard truth. Also to the people that think I do not care about the people of Japan, please understand I do care but I know there is nothing I can do about the issue, so I do not see a point of getting upset about what is happening.

Naturebeckles
03-15-2011, 03:46 AM
How is it stupid to prepare for the worst? I live where it is cold I went and bought a coat for when it snows. If I lived near a nuclear reactor I am buying an anti-radiation suit. So please tell me when you live somewhere that natural disasters can happen how is it stupid to have contingency plans?


It's not stupid and my IT friend confirmed it for me. All smart companies have an IT contingency plan. My friend is part of such a plan for the company he works for.

Naturebeckles
03-15-2011, 03:47 AM
But when they do check the English Forums, SE mainly, they're going to see how many heart-felt players they have that really care about their well-being and the recovery of their country. Sure they won't read them all, especially the ones that are hate/upset posts and the replies to those. But it's better to let them know you care than not letting them know you care at all. I'd rather see you show your reaction than replying you don't want to read ours.


Right! If you don't want to read something... then DON'T READ IT.

Miera
03-15-2011, 03:59 AM
I am completely shocked to hear of all the natural disasters going around lately, I have heard of some heart wrenching strories that came from Japan. It breaks my heart. I hope that everyone is safe and I wish I could do something to help, it truely sucks. I wish many families and friends out there to be safe and to hang in there.

Haruka-Ash
03-15-2011, 04:29 AM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

what a freaking moroon dude i lost 4 ppl in japan already and im burning to go to japan and find the only one left there u think this game is their life? come on dude wake up and see the reality of this tragedy stupid kid
if they shut down the server is to save electricity and if a wuake hist america the game will run w/o i bet it
so go soak ur head on a toilet or something

HFX7686
03-15-2011, 04:32 AM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

Just saw that post. That is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. North America is huge. A quake or disaster in one part will only minimally affect other parts.

They're trying to save power. Do a Google search of "Operation Yashima".

JagerForrester
03-15-2011, 04:52 AM
You can stop bringing that post up. Umbrion has only post twiced after that, laughing at us. He was trolling, stop feeding.

Akujima
03-15-2011, 05:08 AM
It's good to see that they pulled the servers. It goes to show you where Japan's priorities are placed, in their family members, friends, co-workers and colleagues.

Hoping all gets well over there.

I <3 Japan

Darkren
03-15-2011, 05:08 AM
It's not stupid and my IT friend confirmed it for me. All smart companies have an IT contingency plan. My friend is part of such a plan for the company he works for.

SE would have a contingency plan. But this is not a service that needs to be available 24hrs a day, therefore there is no rush to get things online.

Kimara
03-15-2011, 05:31 AM
Some of the posts on here are shamefull.

SE stay safe and I hope you know where all your family and friends are and that they are all safe. Take as much time as you need I think my husband and I's $26 bill we get each month for XI can go to the red cross to help the disaster relief. Stay safe Japan. You're in our prayers.

Ethican
03-15-2011, 05:34 AM
Just for a little perspective. I was in the Katrina disaster that stuck South East Louisiana. It's now just past 5 years later and New Orleans still is not 100%. When I lost everything, it seemed to me like FFXI was the only thing stable in my life. That said, it was a great way to relieve stress. However, I back their decission to shut down the servers 1000% Even were servers down for a month, I would understand. It's like their disclaimer says, "Don't forget about your family and friends in the real world." Right now they need our support.
I originally had no plan to create an account on the forum, but I had to get that off my chest. I know the road will be long and difficult. I fully believe in the Japanese people and know they will rebuild stronger. I want to send my full condolences for those they've lost.
To Square-Enix, I would love for there to be a button similar to purchasing add ons on the pol browser where I could donate to relief efforts.

Heady
03-15-2011, 06:00 AM
I will put this game over human life everytime.........if the human means absolutely nothing too me......I have friends over in Japan atm but what truly can I do........nothing.....so instead I would love to be playing FFXI, they are a business they should have of thought of contingency plan to not have the servers be dropped.

No offense, but I really get the feeling your just trying to stir the pot with this post.

Naturebeckles
03-15-2011, 06:03 AM
Just for a little perspective. I was in the Katrina disaster that stuck South East Louisiana. It's now just past 5 years later and New Orleans still is not 100%. When I lost everything, it seemed to me like FFXI was the only thing stable in my life. That said, it was a great way to relieve stress. However, I back their decission to shut down the servers 1000% Even were servers down for a month, I would understand. It's like their disclaimer says, "Don't forget about your family and friends in the real world." Right now they need our support.
I originally had no plan to create an account on the forum, but I had to get that off my chest. I know the road will be long and difficult. I fully believe in the Japanese people and know they will rebuild stronger. I want to send my full condolences for those they've lost.
To Square-Enix, I would love for there to be a button similar to purchasing add ons on the pol browser where I could donate to relief efforts.

Thank you for your perspective. It is well appreciated.

Lithera
03-15-2011, 06:05 AM
Okay, I get that, about cost and time efficiency for something to work out. But, not having prepared for the worst cause it is unfathomable does not make sense. If it can happen it will, I mean Japan has some of the smartest people on earth and have none of them ever read/heard/experienced Murphy's Law? And I know that sounds rude and insensitive, but sometimes it takes hard truth. Also to the people that think I do not care about the people of Japan, please understand I do care but I know there is nothing I can do about the issue, so I do not see a point of getting upset about what is happening. that is like saying you should have a plan for if/when the supper volcano under Yellowstone park goes off and distroyes everything up to ~8 states in circumference. Or that people should have a plan for mount Raineer goes off that if it is anything like Mt. St. Hellens where people all the way in Minnisota had to deal with tons of ash. Let me ask you this do you have a plan for those? Or a plan for a meteor strike? After all we get them burning up in our atmosphere almost every day.

Heady
03-15-2011, 06:11 AM
Honestly I'm tired of reading posts about "I send my condolences to the ppl of japan etc etc."

It's annoying. If you want to show true sympathy for those lost and in danger then start a fund raiser or post something valid to the cause. Not "I feel bad for the ppl in Japan."

Reason 1: Most ppl in Japan are unable to read the forum d/t electricity.
Reason 2: Many of the affected people don't even play ffxi and would be unable to read the forums that are FFXI specific.
Reason 3: Lastly, if any of the ppl that are affected by this disaster CAN get online to check stuff. They wont be hitting the ENGLISH forums.

Have your sympathies. Just don't post them to make you feel better inside.

And you are here, and posted that waste of text because?? Sorry at a loss here...

Crimoir
03-15-2011, 06:14 AM
How is it stupid to prepare for the worst? I live where it is cold I went and bought a coat for when it snows. If I lived near a nuclear reactor I am buying an anti-radiation suit. So please tell me when you live somewhere that natural disasters can happen how is it stupid to have contingency plans?

I did not say it was stupid to prepare for the worst i was calling some idiots suggestion stupid... i stated that his ideas weren't cost effective for something as menial as a game, a quite old game i should mention. and your comparison isn't valid. tornadoes happen but most people don't build their house under ground.

Naturebeckles
03-15-2011, 06:16 AM
I did not say it was stupid to prepare for the worst i was calling some idiots suggestion stupid... i stated that his ideas weren't cost effective for something as menial as a game, a quite old game i should mention. and your comparison isn't valid. tornadoes happen but most people don't build their house under ground.


People may not have their houses underground, but they have basements in tornado prone areas! Back in the old Cold War Nuclear scare days, people often turned their cellars into nuclear fallout shelters, stacking them full of canned food goods.

Crimoir
03-15-2011, 06:18 AM
And you are here, and posted that waste of text because?? Sorry at a loss here...

i just read this. LOL he was upset by the usual words of empathy that he didn't have to read, and then he wasted time writing a post to say how upset he was making his point invalid. also in coparison to how many americans can speak japanese, WAY more Japanese can speak english...

HFX7686
03-15-2011, 06:18 AM
People may not have their houses underground, but they have basements in tornado prone areas! Back in the old Cold War Nuclear scare days, people often turned their cellars into nuclear fallout shelters, stacking them full of canned food goods.

SE obviously should have had an earthquake-proof power plant in their basement so they could have the servers online in the event of a major catastrophe in Japan, just so the players not in the catastrophe zone could continue to play.

Heady
03-15-2011, 06:29 AM
SE obviously should have had an earthquake-proof power plant in their basement so they could have the servers online in the event of a major catastrophe in Japan, just so the players not in the catastrophe zone could continue to play.

Yea and don't forget enough diesel to keep it running for at least 6+ months pending a drawn out grid recovery. Hmm possibly a tank farm next door. Should be well within budget.

Ailes
03-15-2011, 06:29 AM
Best wishes out to the nation and people affected by this terrible tragedy.

Avina
03-15-2011, 06:52 AM
I was a little bit bummed to hear the servers were going down, since I worked 64 hours last week which with my work schedule means that I only have to work 16 hours this week. Was planning to do a lot of stuff in the game this week.

But not for one second did I question SE's reason to take the servers down, nor do I feel any animosity towards them for not having a backup. I'll gladly endure a minor inconvenience to ease the burden at least a little bit over there.

Xikeroth
03-15-2011, 06:59 AM
My thoughts are with the people of Japan, if I could go there personally and help clean up the mess caused I would without a problem or hesitation.

On the other hand...

Ok, seriously those of you complaining about no FFXI time, the only words I can say to you is... Get a life. Go outside and play something, get some sun. There are PLENTY of other video games you can play that have been launched since FFXI has been, play those!

All the servers are in japan, why? Because its where the company is. Its more expensive to keep those kinds of machines running in other regions of the world then it does in japan (i am quite sure anyways. Why wouldn't they shut down servers for a natural disaster in the US? Because there is no need to do so. In this case there is a HUGE need to so, which means I respect their decision and will keep playing the game when it comes back.

The reason they shut servers down is for survival, not because they don't want to work or something. Its a very important reason. The thing you should think of here is... SE TRIED to keep things running during AND after the quake but due to the situation in Japan right now they HAD to shut servers down to help out others. I'll GLADLY take the money I save on the service fee to make a donation to help the cause since I cant go help cleanup myself

Think about this. just wrap it around you brains a little. There is MAJOR tension on the plates under California which is where all (if not the vast majority) of WoW servers are. If the earthquake that Scientists are 90% positive will go off in the next 5-10 years, goes off... you can be VERY sure WoW will be shut down for a while too.

Fayez
03-15-2011, 07:14 AM
I can't say I questioned SE's dission to turn off the servers. I was a little upset about it at first, but after I found out about what had happened I knew that it was reason enough to turn off the servers, and surprised they were kept running for as long as they were.

I can't personally say I know want people are going though because I live in a place that as far as I know has never had a quake or tusmai. We've had mini tornado's that rip some slates off the roofs but nothing major, and they happen once every 10 or 20 years. But I do feel sorry for everyone who has lost loved ones.

That may seem like a totally pointless post to some people but yea.

Bunni
03-15-2011, 07:17 AM
My deepest condolences to the people of Japan who were affected in the quake and the aftermath. I liked someones idea of making April payments as a donation. I understand that payments won't be taken in April, but I wouldn't mind paying at least half, if not the full amount of our monthly payment. I mean for my husbands and my account it's only about $25-$26. That's definitely not much to ask for.

That being said, all the people complaining about the game being down needs to get a life and realize that disasters happen. Go play your console games or something, it won't hurt you. It's these people who complain that would probably make S.E. not want to turn Aprils payment into a donation. I mean it'd hurt them helping victims of disasters and all! Who would have thought... people wanting to help people in a disaster!

Silvermane
03-15-2011, 07:22 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with all those in Japan, however this seems to highlight to me the Japan centric nature of FFXI, mantaince schedules etc always seem to favour Japan with us EU players getting royaly xxxx wiping out our gaming time for the whole day. Again, my thoughts are with all those who have lost friends and love ones as well as those of any lost or ingured

Magnum
03-15-2011, 07:25 AM
I'm lost for words. After reading over 40 pages of Q_Qing, all I feel is a revulsion at those people, who are selfish enough to only think of their own personal gratification in this situation.

Final Fantasy XI brought people together, to co-operate towards a common goal, and to enjoy the global community for what it is.

Now is the time to help our fellow community, be it players or those in the real world.

My thoughts, prayers, go out to all of Japan, but that is not all.

I am a Carpenter by trade, I offer my services, if needed, in the rebuilding of a proud nation. I cant offer much money (which I have donated already), but if my services as a craftsman can help, please let me know.

VxdragonxV
03-15-2011, 07:32 AM
To all the players in Japan. The TWISTED LS on Fenrir sends it's best wishes to you and your familys. Japan is a great place full of incredible people. You will come back from this disaster stronger as you always do. Our hearts are with you and your familys. Gods speed to you all.

p.s . Dont let the post of fools {Umbrion } get you down. True FFXI fans will wait any amount of time.

RAIST
03-15-2011, 08:25 AM
Good grief... so many threads all over the place about people upset about servers being down. People really need to step back and look at the big picture here. If they love thier toons so much, they whould realize this move HAD to be done to preserve integrity of the DATA if nothing else--regardless of all the other social/political/economic issues. There is a closed thread where a poster cited details about the practical complications of having a system in place that would have allowed FFXI to stay up just before it closed. It really puts things in perspective about why SE would have had to shutdown eventually, even if the government hadne't asked the community to conserve power. Gonna copy/paste a post I made on that topic...hopefully it will make some of these Q Q people understand the complexity of the issue:


to continue Midnitelouie's point fromn a recently closed thread on this issue...

SE owns two complete subnets, and have 4 DNS servers to manage their own network. ie... It's a MASSIVE network. There are a BUTTLOAD of servers dedicated to running just FFXI. Your client taps at least 2 servers at all times while online. I have run netstat in the background to track IP's when having connection issues to help out with support and seen mine hitting as many as 4 servers at once when changing areas.

The point is--to have full redundancy to an offsite location would be a logistical nightmare, and quite frankly not cost effective for what we pay. They would likely have to be running their own private Fiber lines to keep the bandwidth up. This game relies heavily on UDP for data transfer, so there is no store/forward mechanic like what is built into TCP/IP (hence the skipping you get when running sometimes...packets are lost and people blink when a new packet is recieved showing them in a different location). The data loss recieved as is running across the current T1/T3 backbone shows how problematic redundancy would be. They would need a MASSIVE transfer rate to keep duplicate servers running in full time with instant failover support. This is just not practical.

Bear in mind, they have taken radiadion readings at the sites and they are equivalent to roughly 1 year's worth of normal radiation leaking out roughly in 1 hour at the plant. They have had to evacuate a 12 mile radius around the reactors having problems. As dense as the population is over there, thats around 200-300 THOUSAND PEOPLE being displaced. They are having to secure power for PRIMARY SERVICES first (health/emergency/communications services), putting them under the threat of rolling blackouts for secondary services--not a good thing for "nonessential" servers and networks. Your server might be up, but the ISP's routers could go down. Redundancy would be broken. Redundant networks could be caught in a loop of continuous failovers, and eventually the forest of servers will no longer be in synch. With the reduced manpower and reduced reliability of both the outside and internal network structures--it is best for ALL INVOLVED to go offline and try to find a better way of doing business. It's just the way things HAVE to be for now.

For all we know, they are already in the process of bringing a new datacenter online offsite somewhere. But we are talking about terabytes of data per server, and it will take time to set it up. Be patient...it will happen. They wiill be back on line somehow, some way, somewhere.

Raist

Terrigenesis
03-15-2011, 08:31 AM
To all the people saying that SE should have backup servers in California because Japan is supposedly a "hot zone" for tsunamis, that solves nothing. California deals with tsunamis and earthquakes just as if not more frequently. Yes, Japan is in a precarious place being near a fault line but so is California. The San Andreas Fault is part of the same fault line as Japan, look up the Pacific Ring of Fire. It's a gigantic fault line that extends around the Pacific plate. Putting servers on the other side of the plate serves nothing. The earthquake that caused the tsunami appears to be right along where the Pacific plate and the north eastern part of the North American Plate along with the Filipino Plate come together. If you want something to blame, blame plate tectonics. Then again, if it weren't for those very forces, there wouldn't be life on this planet. Even though it's a natural occurrence, it's still a disaster. Stop bickering about what should of happened or what could have happened and find solace in the fact that people survived. Anyone that blames SE is equally at fault. If you knew it would happen, like you imply SE being stupid for not knowing it would happen, you are equally at fault for not doing anything about it. Neither we nor SE are gods, though I wish some of us were sometimes, it is not within human ability to be able to predict every event that will happen. Not even humanity as a whole would be able to defend against every possible occurrence. On top of that, Japan has the best tsunami warning system in the world. They have been dealing with them since before recorded time, they are the experts. As it stands, this is the limit of human technology and knowledge. If it weren't for the fact that Japan is so prone to tsunamis, the effect could be even more devastating.

RAIST
03-15-2011, 08:39 AM
rolling blackouts schedule announced by power company...3 hour blocks for each zone:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11031406-e.html

Raist

deckerd
03-15-2011, 08:47 AM
My thoughts and feelings go to everyone in Japan, the villages, the towns, the families, the families who have lost a loved one or a friend. I want you to know that everyone in the other countries are thinking of you all and that this should never happened to anyone.

To SE it is completely understandable why you'd shut down the service for a week, hell even if it was longer, its completely understandable, and my thoughts go to the SE Crew and their families, for giving up the power from the servers for the better of your country.

Don't listen to any of these hateful comments, they are rude and disrespectful. All this talk about "You should have backup servers" I find absolutely disgusting, the thought that people can think that even thought Japan have had a huge natural disaster and that lives have been lost, they should still have the servers up just so the other countries can get away from their "harsh" realities whilst you are living in hell right now.

Though its a global company which means everyone can use it internationally, the company is originated in Japan and it would be respectful for people to understand that even though it is "Global" company, they should be able to wait a week just so they can understand what is going on in Japan and not care about a week from their "Virtual Life."

P.S - The "Virtual Life" comment might be disrespectful, but I'm only disrespecting people who have made such comments.

People who understand this disaster and why SE had to make this decision, I'm glad to see some people still have hearts and can see sense.

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-15-2011, 08:50 AM
I think this thread has gone in a circle at least twice.

Everyone who is donating: You rock^_^b GL Japan with recovering from this shity situation.

deckerd
03-15-2011, 08:54 AM
I think this thread has gone in a circle at least twice.

I'm not sure if this was aimed at me. But...

I don't want to dig up old dirt, I just wanted to SE to know that even though people are saying heartless things, and even though they are saying sorry. They've said what they've said. It's still hurtful.

I just want SE to know that I respect their decision

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-15-2011, 09:04 AM
No no Deckerd it wasn't haha ^_^ I just finished reading through the whole thread. Unfortunately Half of it wasn't even on topic so I skipped most of the Hate Bashing.

I'm just curious how people KNOW SE-Japan has ALL of the game servers. Even if SE-Cali has back-ups would it really make a difference? Doubt it. Might cause servers to come back online sooner I guess.

The people who really grind my gears are the ones who "have a life" yet spend time telling others to stop bitching and to get one of their own. I'll take this time to call them "special" lol.

deckerd
03-15-2011, 09:11 AM
The people who really grind my gears are the ones who "have a life" yet spend time telling others to stop bitching and to get one of their own. I'll take this time to call them "special" lol.

My "Virtual Life" comment was aimed kinda like that but for people who have said things disrespectful. No one like you my friend ^.^

Sleven
03-15-2011, 09:16 AM
And you are here, and posted that waste of text because?? Sorry at a loss here...

I am pretty sure I explained everything that is needing explanation in my posts. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines (http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=20&la=1).]

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-15-2011, 09:20 AM
^_^b
I was just gonna post the face but they said I had to have at least 10 characters! Hahaha

deckerd
03-15-2011, 09:22 AM
I did not wish to irritate anyone else. I was just expressing my point to SE of their decision and what I think of these people who are disrespecting SE decision and their disrespect towards Japans current state.

deckerd
03-15-2011, 09:24 AM
^_^a


Nice <(^.^)>

Superbeast
03-15-2011, 09:26 AM
Condolences to all effected by this, hang in there, best wishes.

Babyj
03-15-2011, 09:27 AM
that is like saying you should have a plan for if/when the supper volcano under Yellowstone park goes off and distroyes everything up to ~8 states in circumference. Or that people should have a plan for mount Raineer goes off that if it is anything like Mt. St. Hellens where people all the way in Minnisota had to deal with tons of ash. Let me ask you this do you have a plan for those? Or a plan for a meteor strike? After all we get them burning up in our atmosphere almost every day.

I do, I live about 4 hours from Yellowstone and if I hear its about to explode I will move far away from it. If Mt. St. Hellens ever goes to blow up again, I will go buy a gas mask so I do not breathe ash, same thing for Mount. Raineer. And about a Meteor strike, meteors strike the earth constantly but they do not have enough force to do any damage. If the meteor has enough power on it and size it wont matter sense everyone would be dead. Also America has a contingency plan for the volcano under Yellowstone Lake, I do not have any idea what it might be mainly because the odds of it erupting intensely unlikely (not saying it is impossible).

Helel
03-15-2011, 09:29 AM
For the love of jesus, stop complaining about the complainers. Honestly, it's more annoying to read people complaining about "heartless individuals" and "how on earth can people be so selfish during a time like this" etc etc than it is to actually read the selfish/heartless posts. Why do you feel the need the respond to people like that. Obviously, from the very fact that they are heartless/selfish, they don't care what you have to say about them so stop. State how you feel about the situation in Japan and move on like a big boy/girl. Plaguing this thread with bad posts and responses to those bad posts is not helping.

Babyj
03-15-2011, 09:30 AM
For the love of jesus, stop complaining about the complainers. Honestly, it's more annoying to read people complaining about "heartless individuals" and "how on earth can people be so selfish during a time like this" etc etc than it is to actually read the selfish/heartless posts. Why do you feel the need the respond to people like that. Obviously, from the very fact that they are heartless/selfish, they don't care what you have to say about them so stop. State how you feel about the situation in Japan and move on like a big boy/girl. Plaguing this thread with bad posts and responses to those bad posts is not helping.

Way to plague the forum! :D

Sleven
03-15-2011, 09:37 AM
For the love of jesus, stop complaining about the complainers. Honestly, it's more annoying to read people complaining about "heartless individuals" and "how on earth can people be so selfish during a time like this" etc etc than it is to actually read the selfish/heartless posts. Why do you feel the need the respond to people like that. Obviously, from the very fact that they are heartless/selfish, they don't care what you have to say about them so stop. State how you feel about the situation in Japan and move on like a big boy/girl. Plaguing this thread with bad posts and responses to those bad posts is not helping.

Aren't you plaguing the forum with a stop complaining about the complainers.....complaint?

deckerd
03-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Shit its gunna turn into a loop now T_T

Lithera
03-15-2011, 10:27 AM
Size for meteors doesnt really matter even the smallest one can do huge damage. Also shouldn't you by some of your logic already own that mask and not live where you do? Because you lean more towards the you know this could of happened so you should have had a plan before hand. Yes all of japan knows they will get hit with earthquakes, typhoons, and tsunamis, but until we are able to predict these things better nature is going to to catch people with their pants down.

Sleven
03-15-2011, 10:35 AM
UP to 44 pages. And it is now time bow out of this train wreck of a thread. What was this forum about again?
O right FFXI. Hmmm moving on.

Kyulili
03-15-2011, 10:37 AM
To the SE Team, and everyone around them,

Words cannot express the heartbreak I feel every day, watching the endless stream of images, listening to the stories of the survivors, and anticipating the terrible stories yet to come of those who could not be saved. Speaking for myself, my friends, and my family, we are all standing there with you now. Take as much time as you need. Take care of yourselves, and take care of each other. We'll come home whenever you're ready.

Kyu <3

Babyj
03-15-2011, 10:48 AM
Size for meteors doesnt really matter even the smallest one can do huge damage. Also shouldn't you by some of your logic already own that mask and not live where you do? Because you lean more towards the you know this could of happened so you should have had a plan before hand. Yes all of japan knows they will get hit with earthquakes, typhoons, and tsunamis, but until we are able to predict these things better nature is going to to catch people with their pants down.

Well said with the gas mask, very good point. And it is nice to know you do understand astro-physics to some degree. But with the not knowing when earthquakes and other things of that nature will happen it's called a Seismograph. And again sorry if this sounds rude.

Dreamers
03-15-2011, 11:13 AM
It looks like SE is taking advantage of the server down time and getting ready for the server merge, heres a sneak peak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABgSssFWeSc

Dreamers
03-15-2011, 11:41 AM
Yes, my last post was meant to lighten the thread up a little, But just now hearing the news that radiation is rising to serious levels around the power plants, I want to send my best wishes for everyone in Japan to remain safe. The whole world is living this along with you and my heart goes out to everyone who has lost someone close to them in this disaster. And to those who are still trying to find thier loved ones, don't give up hope.

myrla-elphaba
03-15-2011, 11:51 AM
For those of you wanting to donate your April fees, here are several places that are options:

http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/JapanTsunami2011.html

(Thanks Catwho)

Dreamers
03-15-2011, 12:03 PM
For those of you wanting to donate your April fees, here are several places that are options:

http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/JapanTsunami2011.html

(Thanks Catwho)


As a side note on donations, for donations made through the American RedCross, 91 cents of every dollar does go to Japan. I'm not sure how much of every dollar it is with other charities.

It may have been posted before, I haven't read every post, but if you text "REDCROSS" to 90999 a $10 donation will be made to Japan relief and added to your next bill.

BurnNotice
03-15-2011, 12:19 PM
To our friends and family of Japan, FFXI/FFXIV JP, and SE, our hearts, prayers, love, and strength are with you! In-game, we fight Notorious Monsters together; In real life, we will recover from this tragedy together. We will take this week to remind us of what is important: Family, health, friendship, support, and love. We are with you all the way. Stay strong.

Sincerely,

Your friends in South Florida, U.S.A.

Delani
03-15-2011, 01:54 PM
It looks like SE is taking advantage of the server down time and getting ready for the server merge, heres a sneak peak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABgSssFWeSc

Hey I was on teamspeak ages ago LIKE AGES AGO with the guys when they wrote that song! They werent even doing the show yet or anything. They played some other game with a guy we knew on ffxi.

Bunni
03-15-2011, 02:21 PM
The people who really grind my gears are the ones who "have a life" yet spend time telling others to stop bitching and to get one of their own. I'll take this time to call them "special" lol.

I'm sorry if my specialness hurts you in any way. :) Considering the end of my post has everything that seems to "grind" your gears (your post seems almost tailored for mine!), I'd like to offer my sincerest apologies in allowing my specialness to come out when I find posts insulting. I'll be sure to not let it happen again. :) While yes, I do have a life, I take breaks to sit down and relax which that's why I have FFXI to pass the time while my daughter naps or is self-occupied. I don't normally get online to tell people to get a life, I just had happened to get online tonight and read this thread and noticed people complaining about the game being down as if it's hurting them. But again, my apologies Sanjuu-Satsui.

Logandor
03-15-2011, 02:39 PM
BurnNotice:
I second that... But my friends and I are from the North West United States. We holding our hearts and prayers out here for everyone there and want to say we stand by in hopes everyone is able to get back on their feet.

JagerForrester
03-15-2011, 04:48 PM
I just sent $50 dollars to the recovery of Japan. It's not much, but I hope for a speedy recovery of your homeland. It's a country that has given me so much joy. Anime, manga, video games, music. Hate to see that all lost.

Yarly
03-15-2011, 06:24 PM
Hey I was on teamspeak ages ago LIKE AGES AGO with the guys when they wrote that song! They werent even doing the show yet or anything. They played some other game with a guy we knew on ffxi.

ah.. the purepwnage people! they played red alert 2 and wow, as far as i know...

Ajuk
03-15-2011, 07:24 PM
This moron from that locked thread can go jump into an active volcano. 97+ countries either offered aide or gave aide during Hurricane Katrina... I may not have read down enough, but I was so shocked by their total lack of education. How do you post something so blatantly not true on the internet without using some search forum to do a bit of research. It took me 2 minutes to find the information and count the countries, and what those countries offered us. One person from Japan alone donated a million dollars to the red cross during our hard time.

Hear, Hear!!!

Crimoir
03-15-2011, 07:52 PM
SE obviously should have had an earthquake-proof power plant in their basement so they could have the servers online in the event of a major catastrophe in Japan, just so the players not in the catastrophe zone could continue to play.


Yea and don't forget enough diesel to keep it running for at least 6+ months pending a drawn out grid recovery. Hmm possibly a tank farm next door. Should be well within budget.

haha... normally this would require a lmao from me but given the circumstances...

8sabaReg
03-15-2011, 09:42 PM
Thank you VERY much USA

Im not good at speak English,because im Japanese
but,want to say thank you for USAarmy and USApeople helping our nation

Fighting to earthquake and TSUNAMI and newclearblast will us

thank you

GERM
03-15-2011, 10:47 PM
*sigh* this sucks I can only play CoD:BO so much dear god please stop abusing japan with your wrath and let them fix their reactors and what nots because honestly glowing people just isn't cool... glowing animals on the other hand does sound cool but we will save that for another time.. why couldn't you just take out blizzard instead? WoW wouldn't lose too many fans most of em are in school majority of the day they probably wouldn't even know blizzard was taken out til summer anyway :(
Can I donate some gil to the cause? I mean its virtual currency and all but its the thought that counts, right?

vyhakeyo
03-15-2011, 11:57 PM
I'm originally from S. Cali, and went through many of the quakes including the Northridge one, and to the life of me, I can not twist my mind around what a 9 would be like. I'm now currently residing in the MidWest where my biggest concern is Tornadoes (Though the small quakes in Arkansas (1.4 to 3.5) and Oklahoma (3.2) shows there is no place you can go to get away from earthquakes)...My heart goes out to my fellow FF friends in Japan.

Kuraudo
03-16-2011, 12:35 AM
I hope Japan sees only the best of days from here on out. Be safe!

annewandering
03-16-2011, 12:39 AM
Worrying about you guys over there getting water and food and shelter from bad weather. /sad. If it helps just know there are people all over the world gearing up to help out. Hang in there.

varistor
03-16-2011, 12:40 AM
but jus curious if i knew any of you guys from Alexander or Ramuh server

you might know me :)

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-16-2011, 01:34 AM
I'm sorry if my specialness hurts you in any way. Considering the end of my post has everything that seems to "grind" your gears (your post seems almost tailored for mine!), I'd like to offer my sincerest apologies in allowing my specialness to come out when I find posts insulting. I'll be sure to not let it happen again. While yes, I do have a life, I take breaks to sit down and relax which that's why I have FFXI to pass the time while my daughter naps or is self-occupied. I don't normally get online to tell people to get a life, I just had happened to get online tonight and read this thread and noticed people complaining about the game being down as if it's hurting them. But again, my apologies Sanjuu-Satsui.

Hehe apologies accepted ^_^b. Although I agree some of the complaining is a bit ridiculous. Just goes to show how much this effects everyone. People just react to things differently. I'm worried about SE-Japan employees. Them not working is adding to families financial damages.

Quixote
03-16-2011, 01:57 AM
1st if you will like to do something about and help go to this link for the America Red Cross:
http://www.redcross.org/portal/site/en/menuitem.1a019a978f421296e81ec89e43181aa0/?vgnextoid=f9efd2a1ac6ae210VgnVCM10000089f0870aRCRD

2nd
how would SE had justify charging the fee for the moth of April to the Japanese community
3rd
would it had been fare if only Japanese community was not bill ? (in my opinion i would had been OK with it). while the rest gets bill and has no service?

4th
The most important reason why we don't have the server running.

As electricity is in short supply after its power facilities were damaged by Friday's powerful earthquake.
TEPCO called on companies and residents to save electricity

I guess SE only did what had to be done and about the server being down I don't really care much about it. I will keep on praying constantly for the families of those in Japan. It saddens me to no end but I know Gods able to protect & provide

Suteishi
03-16-2011, 02:12 AM
This is th mentality i'm talking about. Thank you for proving me correct that your idiocy surpasses your intelligence.

As for you not being able to "chat with your friends' on the game because the servers are down.... here's a tip.... do like I do and talk to your REAL LIFE friends instead.... if you even have any, you probably play the game too much and have lost touch with anyone that was your frend in real life.

So you can't chat in a game.... POOR YOU. My heart bleeds purple kool-aid for you.

lmao... bleeds Purple kool-aid. clever! :D


/applaud. Naturebeckles..... take a hint.

Exactly~ :) .. My prayers go out to all in Japan. Though I do miss FFXI already :D lol, I would much rather have the already limited power saving lives, and keeping the lives that were saved ALIVE!

Angrykitty
03-16-2011, 02:33 AM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

This guy is the biggest doucher in the world, and I hope when Canada has an earthquake they shut down hockey stadiums for two months!!

mamabandit
03-16-2011, 02:56 AM
Japan is in my prayers and thoughts. And have my condolences to all of those who have lost their lives in this tragidy. And would rather have no game when they can save others by conserving electricty. It was a very smart move to suspend FFXI and FFIV. And it was nice of them to give us April free being they are going to loose a lot of money by doing that when they are going to need the money for their economy more now than ever.

Fudiena
03-16-2011, 02:58 AM
ok i think that what happen was very bad but this is just dumb this is why i think there should be seaver in the usa for stuff like this we all pay lots of money every month and we get craped on by the way this game favors the JP players and when 9/11 happen i bet this game would not have done a thing so way to go SE way to GO

On behalf of the human race and citizens of the United States of America, I apologize for the ignorance of this jackass. What he probaly meant to say was "we understand and our thoughts and prayers are with you. Please take care of yourself and your families. We will keep you in our prayers."

Liselle
03-16-2011, 03:33 AM
On behalf of the human race and citizens of the United States of America, I apologize for the ignorance of this jackass. What he probaly meant to say was "we understand and our thoughts and prayers are with you. Please take care of yourself and your families. We will keep you in our prayers."

It's nice you translated it for us.
I happened to have misunderstood it as "I have no value whatsoever as a human being, please shoot me as soon as possible"

Tim
03-16-2011, 03:43 AM
My prayers go out to all the people of Japan. For all of my Japanese friends on the Ifrit server I hope the best for you and be safe.

Relinaa
03-16-2011, 03:49 AM
Well said Lise

Baroka
03-16-2011, 04:02 AM
I wish Se woulda taken april and donated it. My heart and prayers go out to everyone in japan. People will learn to live without ffxi and ffxiv. ITS just a damn game. get over it. go to school get a job or go outside.

Volckian
03-16-2011, 04:21 AM
Hmm... I bet SE could care less about all this pointless complaining, about them shutting the servers down. They have enough to worry about. A lot of the whiners are probably children with internet access. People need to grow up and realize that there is more to this world than FFXI. If I was the owner of SE, I would have shut down the servers a lot earlier. So that some of you may understand, SE didn't shut down the servers to tick you off. They did it because they had to... They could have left it up and running, and when the power grid went out they could have lost player data and would be unable to restore anything. In a way you all should be thankful that they decided to do the safe thing and shut them down. I know I'd be upset if I knew SE could have saved all my hard work by shutting the servers down and didn't. I don't know how many of you out there actually work with computers and servers, but when you get power surges; it could destroy your equipment.
(Best wishes to Japan and its people. God speed and my prayers are with you.)

BurnNotice
03-16-2011, 04:24 AM
BurnNotice:
I second that... But my friends and I are from the North West United States. We holding our hearts and prayers out here for everyone there and want to say we stand by in hopes everyone is able to get back on their feet.

Awesome.

I am glad you and the North West are showing some love for our peeps overseas. :cool:

JagerForrester
03-16-2011, 04:24 AM
I wish Se woulda taken april and donated it. My heart and prayers go out to everyone in japan. People will learn to live without ffxi and ffxiv. ITS just a damn game. get over it. go to school get a job or go outside.


Could of been a last minute decision in to say, "We're sorry!"

But if they took they April fee and donated it to the cause, I'm sure there would be plenty of heartless players who would say, "That's not fair. I'm not playing FFXI because of the earthquake. I want my money back."

At least by not billing us, we have the option to do something else with our money. Depends on the player if they want to put it towards helping Japan, or buy a shot for Japan.

Baroka
03-16-2011, 04:32 AM
God reading most of the posts in these threads just makes me wonder about ppl in the usa. Yes they wouldnt shut it down if we had issues here. Get over yourselfs guys. they have to save power for hospitals and houses. Id rather see ppl have the eletricty then them to power servers for a game. Yes it will cut into their profits. but god think about other ppl rather then yourself for once :)

@ jagerforrester Yeah true i never thought about that.

BurnNotice
03-16-2011, 04:38 AM
On behalf of the human race and citizens of the United States of America, I apologize for the ignorance of this jackass. What he probaly meant to say was "we understand and our thoughts and prayers are with you. Please take care of yourself and your families. We will keep you in our prayers."

Thanks for the translation bro.

And besides, if SE didn't shut down the server during 9/11, it wouldn't mean that they wouldn't care enough to contribute help, make donations, and waive fees. I have friends who were Hurricane Katrina victims and played this game and they had their subscription fees waived because of that natural disaster.

Umbrion
03-16-2011, 06:33 AM
Go Sleven Go!!

PS- Angrykitten the NHL is 80% US teams, so there will have to be one on both sides (affecting you too) to shut down hockey.

Oh and IF you are thinking of sending aid "money" make sure you don't send it to Fake site and probably shouldn't pick any of the ones posted here without looking into them carefully.

Don't be stupid.

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-16-2011, 06:48 AM
Umbrion.... Isn't that a name of a pokemon? Nuff said.

I could easily make a list of 20+ people who have post in this thread that are total ass-hats.

Umbrion
03-16-2011, 07:14 AM
lol Umbreon is the pokemon. second, you can't tell who's a jerk here cause really unless you know that person outside this then you don't know anything.

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-16-2011, 07:56 AM
You honestly believe people act more like themselves in real life than they would over the internet? People will say truely what they feel online WAY more often than in real life face to face with someone.

When I ask you that question.... it excludes the crazy people who like pretend to be little girls and shit.

Wenceslao
03-16-2011, 08:30 AM
This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean

what kind of i#$t post stuffs like this? this is more upseting that the servers shut down, how can be that kind of people around the world, so narrow minded...

Wenceslao
03-16-2011, 08:33 AM
my best wishes to all japanese people as well as my prayers

Darkpearl
03-16-2011, 08:53 AM
Hope all that disasters stop soon. Meanwhile ganbare Japan! Game can wait I don't care. First come real life and after the rest. Heart with you all and the victim of the disaster.

Juilan
03-16-2011, 08:59 AM
My deepest corners and worries to the citizens of japan, and to the ones staying within their that aren't nationals. I have donated the 10$ to the Japanese red cross but I still feel I'd be more at easy if I lent my body and back to the recovery/rescue effort.

I fulling understand, and I wish more people did, why the servers went down. I am more concerned over the people of Japan, then I am about the media they produce. Some of my longest last friend ships on Siren were with Japanese players. If they could call or IM me to say that they're fine I would love that. With the power issues that are happening I know why they aren't using the interweb. But more then the general displaced citizens living in horrific conditions for the time being my hearts and thoughts are going to the ones working to advert a nuclear disaster in Japan.

to the employees SE: make sure your family and relatives and friends are safe, and be at peace with your choice to have the servers down as long as they need to be. May we hope that the things return to a some what normal state sooner then later.

PS if the from FFXI are monitoring this site Xohpius I miss you man!

kitykat
03-16-2011, 09:09 AM
Go Sleven Go!!

PS- Angrykitten the NHL is 80% US teams, so there will have to be one on both sides (affecting you too) to shut down hockey.

Oh and IF you are thinking of sending aid "money" make sure you don't send it to Fake site and probably shouldn't pick any of the ones posted here without looking into them carefully.

Don't be stupid.

Hmm.. Don't say something stupid like feed back centers are going to be working overtime when they are not even powered? Like making insensitive comments about your "own" needs and concerns when so many ppl are dealing with a crisis? Don't do something stupid, like making myself look like the biggest "arse" to ever post a comment on a forum? ~.^ gotcha! I'll try not to any of those things.

Sanjuu-Satsui
03-16-2011, 09:15 AM
Yeah Kitykat jeeze... How dare you post your own opinion and feelings on a free public Forum. Lol (Sarcasm)

Payyn
03-16-2011, 09:23 AM
My thoughts are with you all, if I could go over to help I would; but i cannot, so I am donating to red cross for now.
Be strong! Take how ever long you need. People will just either learn to go outside of the basement or sit there and QQ.
Makes no sense someone would actually get mad because they *Had* to shut the servers down.
lolumad.
Anyway, Please take care Japan!!!!!

RAIST
03-16-2011, 09:29 AM
Looks like TEPCO is managing to get things under control again:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

Stating they've achieved cold shutdown of all 4 reactors. Now to focus on the containment issues, and hopefully things will turn around soon.

Raist

mysiam
03-16-2011, 09:48 AM
All people looking at here, nice to meet you.
I am a Japanese.  I am in the stricken area of the big earthquake now.
People learn me in great regret for the cooperation to stopping of the
server by Japanese electricity shortage now.

With all a sole feeling, please watch an original animation of FFXI which I made.
And I ask for mercy to the victim.

EP1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUroyx1ezuc

EP2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KjSj0TCzCc

EP3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxvHZOhWNaE

Final EP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arODrDNcmbQ

I want to have an adventure from now on in all of you and the Vana'diel.^^
Thank you :)

my best wishes for you and all Japan, i pray for your health and safety. i really enjoyed your movie of the "kitten lady"! thank you!

Marivell
03-16-2011, 10:17 AM
This guy is the biggest doucher in the world, and I hope when Canada has an earthquake they shut down hockey stadiums for two months!!

Please don't mix Canada in your fights with ppl here.... we are very heartfelt people and I'm sad to see that you think like that of us :(
First, we never experienced REAL earthquakes or natural disasters here or anything like that and yes, I do really feel lucky about that. We, from Québec and most parts of Canada, are the first to reach out to the world when in need...
Don't judge a whole nation by one person speaking. We are a peaceful country...

And, by the way, is this guy even a Canadian ? O.o

And, Umbrion, hockey is 80% USA teams, but 90% canadian money, thanks to Bettman. But I' m off topic, I know. Just wanted to say. So theorically, yes, shutting down hockey in Canada will be a major disaster for that sport. She had a very good point considering it strickly on the economical side of it.... all the money incomes are from Canadian teams.

Marivell
03-16-2011, 10:18 AM
Looks like TEPCO is managing to get things under control again:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

Stating they've achieved cold shutdown of all 4 reactors. Now to focus on the containment issues, and hopefully things will turn around soon.

Raist


Finally, good news...!

mysiam
03-16-2011, 10:29 AM
No3

To all FFXI users, I thank for the cooperation of the economy in power consumption.
Thank you:)
From the seismic center neighborhood
Peape.caitsith:)

youre welcome Peape! I hope for safety and recovery in your town soon!

RAIST
03-16-2011, 10:32 AM
Finally, good news...!

Thanks for quoting my post Marivell...was beginning to wonder if anyone noticed there was some POSITIVE NEWS on the situation there....

Raist

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

Marivell
03-16-2011, 10:35 AM
lol not only did I quote it, but I even looked at the reactors status.... seems they got the control back....

Do you happen to have news about the breech in the #4 reactor's roof? I don't see any mention of it on their webpage :/

RAIST
03-16-2011, 10:40 AM
lol not only did I quote it, but I even looked at the reactors status.... seems they got the control back....

Do you happen to have news about the breech in the #4 reactor's roof? I don't see any mention of it on their webpage :/

Not a lot of info just yet. They held a conference and said they were going with it being a hydrogen explosion. News reports that the fire is no longer visible, so I guess they have it under control now. Stinks having to wait for the English translations to come out.

Raist

Edit: there's a site frrom the UK that's keeping a pretty up-to-date account of what's been going on, including tweets from JP officials involved, if you want to follow it:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8375373/Japan-earthquake-live.html

Marivell
03-16-2011, 10:54 AM
Think about it.... I have to wait for the french translations here -_- and bad ones, too. We don't have a lot of specialists, here, we only have two nuclear plants so.... most of our energy is hydroelectricity, so I'm not very familiar with that kind of situation.

I guess we now have to wait for another press release, then :)

Dreamers
03-16-2011, 11:16 AM
Looks like TEPCO is managing to get things under control again:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/index-e.html

Stating they've achieved cold shutdown of all 4 reactors. Now to focus on the containment issues, and hopefully things will turn around soon.

Raist

Actually, the reactors they are refering to that have been safely shut down are at the Fukushima Daini Power Station. They are not the ones that were of the biggest concern. The problems are coming from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Power Station, which are still causing big problems.

I may have missed something in that link, but I saw very little about Fukushima Dai-ichi.

RAIST
03-16-2011, 11:19 AM
ahh.. good catch.. didn't spot the number differences at the end of the names. just assumed they would be posting about the more important ones, seeing how they've been releasing pressers every 2 or 3 hours all day.

Raist

Marivell
03-16-2011, 11:31 AM
I didn't noticed yeah... you're right.... :/

There goes my optimism.....

The few they say about Daii-chi is what I mentioned earlier, about the explosion that breeched the roof of reactor #4.... that's the latest official news we had from that plant.

I heard on tv a little earlier this morning that they called in a U.S specialized team... was about time, I think. I hope that altogether they can avoid the worst, now. For the sake of all.

Hang in there, please.... hang in there.

Dreamers
03-16-2011, 11:34 AM
For once, I wish I were wrong and had just missed something:(

RAIST
03-16-2011, 11:35 AM
Radiation levels spiked rapidly about an hour ago...evacuated workers. Waiting for more news... no more reporting radiation levels in microSeiver ratings (sp?), now reporting in milliSeiver ratings.

Raist

Neika
03-16-2011, 11:36 AM
as if the earthquake and tsunami weren't enough :(

Zyeriis
03-16-2011, 11:44 AM
I doubt this is entirely the right place to ask, however, as this thread is about the server shutdown following the earthquake/tsunami, I figured this would be a good place to ask. Does anyone know if the free from payment cycle in April will be in effect for people who have been away from ffxi for months, upon reactivating their account. Or does this only apply to those who had active accounts at the time of the servers being shut off? I'm on the fence about reactivating when the servers go back up because I can't say I was particularly happy with ffxi at the time I quit (2 weeks after the level cap raise to 80) but a free month would tip things in the direction of reactivating.

On a different note: I hope things get back to normal as quickly as possible in Japan. Both for selfish reasons and for sympathetic reasons alike. I say this in an awkward attempt to make those who are saying offensive things about the situation slightly more aware of the situation and what they are saying. It is quite easy to get irritated over something beyond your comprehension (or control) such as a double-natural disaster because you become so slightly disadvantaged by it, that part I can understand. The part I cannot understand is such people can say such offensive things, knowing full well that they are in fact offensive. I have no claim to say that I, personally, have any clue as to what it is truly experience such a disaster but, at the very least, know not to make a mockery of such a thing. I sincerely doubt that level of thought has once nor will cross your minds, even upon reading this but, I tried, much like you should to be more considerate.

RAIST
03-16-2011, 12:10 PM
they probably just aren't going to run billing in April, or maybe they'll run it but then credit it back so it clears any flags for non-payment that the system might automatically do.

Raist

Zyeriis
03-16-2011, 12:12 PM
Well that's mostly what I'm wondering, the actual specifics. From past experience, SE has always done things like "this only applies if you have had an active for the past 3 months". A good example is anniversary ring.

Dreamers
03-16-2011, 12:18 PM
This is just speculation, but I would assume the not being billed for the April billing cycle would only apply to existing accounts, or those people who had paid for the month of March but are not able to play. You would have to ask somebody at SE, but I would guess a new account/reactivated account would be charged for April.

Midnite
03-16-2011, 12:19 PM
Im so sorry for japans loss, i hope things get better.

RAIST
03-16-2011, 12:20 PM
some corrections on the radiation levels... was actually 600-800 microSv, but had spiked to 1 millSv and raised concern. Facility was not completely evacuated, a core group is still on-site. Stumbled on an interesting link to a custom twitter page running 3 feeds. Those wanting regular updates may want to bookmark it:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/103709/permanent/quake/jishin.html

Raist