View Full Version : Square Enix has already revealed pictures of a completely new area.
Edyth
11-13-2011, 12:24 AM
I can't stand the stupidity and obliviousness around here anymore. Look under February. Enjoy.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16211-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-Roadmap-for-October-2011-%E2%80%93-March-2012
Alhanelem
11-13-2011, 12:29 AM
? you're posting this as if nobody knows about it already?
Kinda behind the times aren't we? What prompted this? AFAIK its the area for the dungeon crawl or whatever.
Edyth
11-13-2011, 12:36 AM
? you're posting this as if nobody knows about it already?
Kinda behind the times aren't we? What prompted this?
No one I've talked to in-game knows what I'm talking about when I mention this new area, and then there's this "hot" topic:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5429-Developers-SquareEnix-What-are-the-REAL-chances-of-us-seeing-NEW-areas
Combined with me apparently being the only person on Quetzalcoatl to have noticed the new area revelation, I felt it necessary to beat people over the head and put it in the thread title and first post of the thread, so even the most oblivious and ignorant players have a decent chance of noticing.
Alhanelem
11-13-2011, 03:03 AM
I suppose its possible people are mistaking it for a rehash of riverne, and TBH, it's still a possibility that it's still recycled and not really new. There's enough different about it that it could be more new than I and most people are likely giving it credit for. I suppose you're trying to show that sE fufilled it's promise that they can still add new areas. To be clear and fair, that 10GB allocation is not totally used up yet, but it reached a point where fragmentation on the hard disk was causing trouble for some console users trying to update.
Still if you want to call attention to something, better to do it in a less inflammatory way than you originally did before editing.
Lushipur
11-13-2011, 04:26 AM
i hope its not just an hub like WoE and that glowing like are teleport like riverne and not like woe conflux
Helel
11-13-2011, 07:19 AM
All I saw was that there was going to be 4 chapters of voidwatch... /wrist.
Urteil
11-13-2011, 12:10 PM
All I saw was that there was going to be 4 chapters of voidwatch... /wrist.
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Seriously Its a new Zone, yes. But until its released its just a recolored Cape Riverne.
I hope i'm wrong and its new but i wont get my hopes up until its there.
Tsuneo
11-13-2011, 09:26 PM
Even if it's a new zone, I don't see it being anything more than a second Walk of Echoes. I hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be a real zone, but I highly doubt that it will be.
Tamoa
11-13-2011, 09:36 PM
If it's a recolour of Riverne, it's not really new imo.
Even if it's a new zone, I don't see it being anything more than a second Walk of Echoes. I hope I'm wrong and it turns out to be a real zone, but I highly doubt that it will be.
I don't really view that as being a new zone either. A new zone to me is an area we can enter without restrictions and where there are normal monsters roaming.
Eurell
11-13-2011, 11:53 PM
It looks nothing like riverne aside from it's floating lol. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&d=1302264655&thumb=1
Nynja
11-14-2011, 12:43 AM
I can't stand the stupidity and obliviousness around here anymore. Look under February. Enjoy.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/16211-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-Roadmap-for-October-2011-%E2%80%93-March-2012
Looks like they took Riverne, and painted it with WoE.
Alhanelem
11-14-2011, 04:32 AM
It looks nothing like riverne aside from it's floating lol. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&d=1302264655&thumb=1
Riverne: a floating pile of rocks with some green grass.
New area: a floating pile of rocks with some ice or crystals.
Loralei
11-14-2011, 05:18 AM
It looks nothing like riverne aside from it's floating lol. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&d=1302264655&thumb=1
yea your right it looks more like the primal fight areas..... yay recolor
Riverne: a floating pile of rocks with some green grass.
New area: a floating pile of rocks with some blue grass.
Fixed that for you.
Alhanelem
11-14-2011, 10:40 AM
I'm not sure what I was looking at in the pics, but it certainly wasn't grass.
Selzak
11-14-2011, 10:41 AM
I think people mean something like Al Zahbi or Bhaflau Thickets when they say they want new areas, not the Abyssea-Konschat kind of "new" areas.
what we want is 100% completely original new zones that we have never seen before with all new monsters and layouts and for them to be sprawling in size with lots of content to make use of
not just another rehash or a zone we have seen before that is recolor'd or layed out in a different way to try to trick us
Tohihroyu
11-14-2011, 05:29 PM
The more jp ask for new zones the more we may get them! lets hope lots of jp want new areas!
Because it seems they only use ideas from the Japanese player base :/
Laraul
11-14-2011, 11:50 PM
Everyone wants the same thing... something that will never meet their expectations...
Eurell
11-15-2011, 12:06 AM
lol, The only thing similar about that zone and riverne is that they are both floating. Thats like saying Cape terrigan and Valkurm dunes are the same because they are both beaches. Might as well get rid of xarcabard and ulegrande (sp) range, the glacier already has snow, so those other 2 zones are just copies.
lol, The only thing similar about that zone and riverne is that they are both floating. Thats like saying Cape terrigan and Valkurm dunes are the same because they are both beaches. Might as well get rid of xarcabard and ulegrande (sp) range, the glacier already has snow, so those other 2 zones are just copies.
Also we already have Bastok, we don't need Windurst, San d'Oria Jeuno, Kazham, Norg, Whitegate/Al Zabhi or any other cities for that matter :)
Tsuneo
11-15-2011, 12:44 AM
I don't think anyone was complaining about zones being similar. People are concerned with whether or not the zone will be Riverne with a different skin. Your analogies are of zones that look similar but are clearly different zones. If I took Riverne and made the whole zone a different color, that wouldn't count as a new zone.
I don't think anyone was complaining about zones being similar. People are concerned with whether or not the zone will be Riverne with a different skin. Your analogies are of zones that look similar but are clearly different zones. If I took Riverne and made the whole zone a different color, that wouldn't count as a new zone.
Even if it was Riverne, we already have Riverne A1 and B1, why can't we have C1 :P
Tsuneo
11-15-2011, 01:03 AM
As long as it wasn't physically the same zone, I wouldn't have anything to complain about. A01 and B01 look the same, but the 2 zones aren't identical to each other.
Eurell
11-15-2011, 02:26 AM
I don't think anyone was complaining about zones being similar. People are concerned with whether or not the zone will be Riverne with a different skin. Your analogies are of zones that look similar but are clearly different zones. If I took Riverne and made the whole zone a different color, that wouldn't count as a new zone.
But the thing is it looks nothing like Riverne lol, aside from them both being floating rocks.
Hashmalum
11-15-2011, 04:57 AM
No one I've talked to in-game knows what I'm talking about when I mention this new area, and then there's this "hot" topic:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/5429-Developers-SquareEnix-What-are-the-REAL-chances-of-us-seeing-NEW-areas
Combined with me apparently being the only person on Quetzalcoatl to have noticed the new area revelation, I felt it necessary to beat people over the head and put it in the thread title and first post of the thread, so even the most oblivious and ignorant players have a decent chance of noticing.That thread was first posted 7 months ago, and has since moved on to a new topic. Now, what's this you say about "stupidity and obliviousness around here"?
Xellith
11-15-2011, 08:48 AM
New Areas is stuff like....
Great Southern Empire and the Island of Tsahya
Western Continent Ulbuka
Orcish Empire to the North
East Aht Urghan + Far Eastern Empire in Aradjiah.
NOT stuff like....
Tahronghi v2.0
La Theine v2.0
Pashow v2.0
Uleugerand v2.0
ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC
Xellith has it completely 100% right that is what we expect brand new zones to explore and lvl in not rehashed lazy work
i mean come on SE geez even heros zones of abyssea its a hassle to skillup to 95 cap for combat skills we need new areas for lv99 exping and skillups and i am sure new notorious monsters and good gear would be a nice touch to it
Eurell
11-15-2011, 09:36 AM
But what is this http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&d=1302264655&thumb=1 a v2.0 of?
I get it if the complaint 1 brand new zone is not enough, but I do not get the complaint that this is a reskin of another zone, when the only thing it has similar to Riverne (which people are comparing it to) is that its flying.
Tsuneo
11-15-2011, 10:00 AM
No one said that was a duplicate of an existing zone. People said that it looked like Riverne. Like I said earlier though, I don't see that zone being a true zone. I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to Walk of Echoes.
Alhanelem
11-15-2011, 12:56 PM
But what is this http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=59&d=1302264655&thumb=1 a v2.0 of?
I get it if the complaint 1 brand new zone is not enough, but I do not get the complaint that this is a reskin of another zone, when the only thing it has similar to Riverne (which people are comparing it to) is that its flying.
That's the concept art, not a screenshot.
Winrie
11-15-2011, 01:56 PM
Looks like someone turned a lamp on in walk of echoes. I hardly call that a new zone. New box expansion with a new continent to explore that is unique and Fresh and not repainted, thanks
Leonlionheart
11-15-2011, 02:47 PM
I'd like some new landscapes but I don't think this new map is particularly bad. Has a very high level final fantasy feeling from the look of it. All that crystal.
Eurell
11-15-2011, 09:58 PM
No one said that was a duplicate of an existing zone. People said that it looked like Riverne. Like I said earlier though, I don't see that zone being a true zone. I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to Walk of Echoes.
Seriously Its a new Zone, yes. But until its released its just a recolored Cape Riverne.
I hope i'm wrong and its new but i wont get my hopes up until its there.
Looks like they took Riverne, and painted it with WoE.
Riverne: a floating pile of rocks with some green grass.
New area: a floating pile of rocks with some ice or crystals.
yea your right it looks more like the primal fight areas..... yay recolor
I think people mean something like Al Zahbi or Bhaflau Thickets when they say they want new areas, not the Abyssea-Konschat kind of "new" areas.
what we want is 100% completely original new zones that we have never seen before with all new monsters and layouts and for them to be sprawling in size with lots of content to make use of
not just another rehash or a zone we have seen before that is recolor'd or layed out in a different way to try to trick us
I don't think anyone was complaining about zones being similar. People are concerned with whether or not the zone will be Riverne with a different skin. Your analogies are of zones that look similar but are clearly different zones. If I took Riverne and made the whole zone a different color, that wouldn't count as a new zone.
New Areas is stuff like....
Great Southern Empire and the Island of Tsahya
Western Continent Ulbuka
Orcish Empire to the North
East Aht Urghan + Far Eastern Empire in Aradjiah.
NOT stuff like....
Tahronghi v2.0
La Theine v2.0
Pashow v2.0
Uleugerand v2.0
ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC
Xellith has it completely 100% right that is what we expect brand new zones to explore and lvl in not rehashed lazy work
Looks like someone turned a lamp on in walk of echoes. I hardly call that a new zone. New box expansion with a new continent to explore that is unique and Fresh and not repainted, thanks
I would also be upset if this zone was just another WoE, but thats not what 90% of the complaints in this thread have been.
Eurell
11-15-2011, 10:00 PM
That's the concept art, not a screenshot.
In the screenshot for Heroes of Abyssea, some people were arguing over if one of the screenshots was from Altepa desert or bibiki bay. Those 2 zones are completely different from eachother. Calling this zone Riverne or an avatar fight area, or anything else, over one little screenshot where the only thing you can see is a floating crystal, makes 0 sense.
I totally get that this zone may suck, or might just be another WoE that we can't actually explore, but theres no way to get to that conclusion based on what they have released of the zone so far.
Zagen
11-16-2011, 08:49 AM
Calling this zone Riverne or an avatar fight area, or anything else, over one little screenshot where the only thing you can see is a floating crystal, makes 0 sense.
The screen shots that have been released look more like riverne zone reskins than the concept sketch but then again that's why concept sketches are merely for reference.
Eurell
11-16-2011, 08:42 PM
The screen shots that have been released look more like riverne zone reskins than the concept sketch but then again that's why concept sketches are merely for reference.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=905&d=1319106632&thumb=1
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=906&d=1319106638&thumb=1
What looks like Riverne aside from floating rocks? I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but if floating rocks = same zone, then we might as well call the glacier and xarcabard the same zone because they both have snow.
Zagen
11-17-2011, 09:36 AM
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=905&d=1319106632&thumb=1
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=906&d=1319106638&thumb=1
What looks like Riverne aside from floating rocks? I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but if floating rocks = same zone, then we might as well call the glacier and xarcabard the same zone because they both have snow.
Floating rocks is exactly right. To be more specific floating islands, such as riverne had. Different heights like riverne had.
The concept sketch implies a large singular floating island/rock with debris rocks around it. Though I did preface concepts are merely for reference purposes so holding the exact look of the place to the concept shouldn't be done.
Could it be a completely unique zone that just happens to go with the floating island theme? Sure.
Could it be a re-skin of riverne zone or models? Sure.
Either of these could be true. No one knows what SE defines as a new zone as the question was ignored in another thread. To them Abyssea re-skin/model removal/tweak type zones count as "new" for all we know at this point.
Alhanelem
11-17-2011, 02:54 PM
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=905&d=1319106632&thumb=1
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/attachment.php?attachmentid=906&d=1319106638&thumb=1
What looks like Riverne aside from floating rocks? I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but if floating rocks = same zone, then we might as well call the glacier and xarcabard the same zone because they both have snow.
all riverne is, is floating rocks. That's all this new area is, with some crystals sticking out of the ground and a big one in the middle.
Leonlionheart
11-17-2011, 04:53 PM
That is CLEARLY different from riverne, not a reskin. Similar in many ways? Also obvious. But La Theine is similar to West Ronf too.
just for reference...
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8756/awesomeviewjy8.png
About as similar to this new thing as sauromogue is to meriphtaud
Now don't get me wrong this shouldn't be a scapegoat for SE's laziness, because I too want more defined zones (far east + phoenix plz)