View Full Version : Flying Mounts?
svengalis
10-30-2011, 10:35 AM
Are they even possible in FF XI or are we limited by the PS2?
Prothscar
10-30-2011, 10:42 AM
1/10 for effort
cidbahamut
10-30-2011, 11:50 AM
0/10
Would not read again.
Alhanelem
10-30-2011, 12:06 PM
Wouldn't even want if serious
MDenham
10-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Instead of mounts, post contained bobcats. Would not read OP again.
Limecat
10-30-2011, 02:48 PM
They could remove the chocobos' legs and put giant springs under them.
Krashport
10-30-2011, 03:05 PM
Topless Mithras! What... what did I say... (*'-')b
Reiterpallasch
10-30-2011, 03:06 PM
Flying mount? Sounds like something my wife and I need to try sometime.
Siviard
10-30-2011, 03:22 PM
World of Warcraft is {Over there}
This is Final Fantasy, don't be bringing that WoW crap here.
Atomic_Skull
10-30-2011, 03:27 PM
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/9486/troolf.png
Fixed that for you.
Insaniac
10-30-2011, 04:07 PM
I finally had a reason to post a picture and someone beat me. =(
Reiterpallasch
10-30-2011, 04:18 PM
World of Warcraft is {Over there}
This is Final Fantasy, don't be bringing that WoW crap here.
Sounds like:
"I've never played but I'm gonna say it sucks because someone else in FFXI said it sucks" or
"yeah I played it once, I got to lvl 2 and it was boring so I quit" or
"it looks like a cartoon because my PC is as powerful as a toaster and my FFXI looks like legos".
Take your pick.
Because we surely wouldn't want FFXI to become too much like WoW now would we? SE should get rid of:
quests, mobs, money, auction houses, buildings, swords, daggers, staves, bows, clubs, armor, crafting, parties, magic, dragons, GMs, players, pvp, zones, servers, cities, towns, boats, airships, trees, the sky, the ground, and the million other things that both games have in common.
Tsukino_Kaji
10-30-2011, 04:34 PM
Sounds like:
"I've never played but I'm gonna say it sucks because someone else in FFXI said it sucks" or
"yeah I played it once, I got to lvl 2 and it was boring so I quit" or
"it looks like a cartoon because my PC is as powerful as a toaster and my FFXI looks like legos".
Take your pick.
Because we surely wouldn't want FFXI to become too much like WoW now would we? SE should get rid of:
quests, mobs, money, auction houses, buildings, swords, daggers, staves, bows, clubs, armor, crafting, parties, magic, dragons, GMs, players, pvp, zones, servers, cities, towns, boats, airships, trees, the sky, the ground, and the million other things that both games have in common.One of the worst comparisons ever.
Tamoa
10-30-2011, 06:27 PM
With the access to outpost warp, abyssea warp and voidwatch warp as well as teleport earrings, I can count the times I need a chocobo in a month on one hand. And I'll still have some fingers left over. There is no need for a "flying mount".
Krashport
10-30-2011, 07:22 PM
Can we at least have flying pigs! ... or pandas!!!? o.o
Xellith
10-30-2011, 08:23 PM
No. Flightless chocobo's only.
Jamesy
10-31-2011, 02:18 AM
Are they even possible in FF XI or are we limited by the PS2?
you should be sterilized for saying this you want to play WoW go do so
Mirage
10-31-2011, 02:25 AM
World of Warcraft is {Over there}
This is Final Fantasy, don't be bringing that WoW crap here.
>implying flying mounts make WoW crap
Regardless, all trolling aside.
What's most likely to put a stop for this is each zone's level design. The zones are not designed to be accessible from the air, and SE is probably not interested in readjusting the zones for such stuff.
Delasol
10-31-2011, 02:27 AM
Are they even possible in FF XI or are we limited by the PS2?
Please go back to WoW.
xbobx
10-31-2011, 03:32 AM
Tarus can't even climb small bumps in the terrain, or even climb stairs in Ordelles and you think flying mounts are possible?
Arlan
10-31-2011, 03:37 AM
I'm Sorry OP... the community here are a punch of Fanboys/noobs who don't know what's best half of the time.
I think SE needs to be MORE "CREATIVE" and come up with different mounts and ways of traveling other than sticking with "Chocobos" Onry. This game lacks creativity and those who praise the uncreative aspects of the game such as "Chocobos Mounts onry" are simply dumb fanboys...
While I'm at it, another thing this game truly lacks is how the "Armors" look.
Majority of the low/high lvl armor looks like the same armor you see but sometimes different color with different names. Makes no Sense, give us new designs for each armor not same designs with reskinned models... Soo.. UnCreative..
Also, Crabs, Worms, Crabs, Rabbits, Crabs, Fairies, Crabs, Demons, Crabs, ETC. seriously?
How come majority of the monsters are the SAME and only have different names!? RESKIN DOESN'T COUNT!
I want to see new models not just new names and status...
Names and Status means Nothing when everything looks and feels visually the same.
New pets, new armor designs, New monsters with different models and NOT same Models of reskinn crap that we have already seen before!
WE NEED SE TO BE CREATIVE PPL,
Thumbs Up for OP!
svengalis
10-31-2011, 04:24 AM
I'm Sorry OP... the community here are a punch of Fanboys/noobs who don't know what's best half of the time.
I think SE needs to be MORE "CREATIVE" and come up with different mounts and ways of traveling other than sticking with "Chocobos" Onry. This game lacks creativity and those who praise the uncreative aspects of the game such as "Chocobos Mounts onry" are simply dumb fanboys...
While I'm at it, another thing this game truly lacks is how the "Armors" look.
Majority of the low/high lvl armor looks like the same armor you see but sometimes different color with different names. Makes no Sense, give us new designs for each armor not same designs with reskinned models... Soo.. UnCreative..
Also, Crabs, Worms, Crabs, Rabbits, Crabs, Fairies, Crabs, Demons, Crabs, ETC. seriously?
How come majority of the monsters are the SAME and only have different names!? RESKIN DOESN'T COUNT!
I want to see new models not just new names and status...
Names and Status means Nothing when everything looks and feels visually the same.
New pets, new armor designs, New monsters with different models and NOT same Models of reskinn crap that we have already seen before!
WE NEED SE TO BE CREATIVE PPL,
Thumbs Up for OP!
I like your signature. I don't know why anyone would say flying mounts are crap or "go back to WoW" because I asked this question. Flying mounts are fun in WoW and eliminate a huge time sync in that game. I noticed someone mention all the different possible ways to teleport in this game. What they didn't mention is how much time it takes to get access to all those different teleports especially when most of them are from dead content. I think if we had access to something like flying mounts at any given time without it make things that much easier and eliminate a huge time sync for us all. I really don't see what is the problem with that.
The reason I bring this up is because the other day I was doing VW Zilart path and had to walk from OP to sky to find other party members. Someone got pissed at me because I was taking to long, and I was just thinking if I had a flying mount I could have got there that much faster.
Alot of people here hate on WoW but to me one thing Blizzard really got right with that game is that it can be fun. I love FF XI but I think SE could take some more ideas from Blizzard and make things that much better.
Soranika
10-31-2011, 04:30 AM
Trolling like a boss.
Tamoa
10-31-2011, 04:37 AM
I noticed someone mention all the different possible ways to teleport in this game. What they didn't mention is how much time it takes to get access to all those different teleports especially when most of them are from dead content.
Abyssea warp is dead content? Outpost warp is dead content? Teleport earrings are cheap and easy to make, if you don't have synergy leveled then I'm sure it's possible to find someone to make them for you. Only thing that can be tricky, is vwnm warps, since you need to actually do vwnm (and win) to gain access to those. But before vwnm was introduced into the game, I could still count the times I needed to use a chocobo in a month on one hand. I feel SE has done just about everything possible to make travel as easy as possible for us.
And even if flying "mounts" were added to the game just for uhh... creativity and fun - how long would that be fun for? I'm thinking it's a lot of work for the devs for something that the majority of people won't be using after the novelty wears off.
Greatguardian
10-31-2011, 05:03 AM
How do players seriously not have the bloody sky warp in 2011?
Tamoa
10-31-2011, 05:16 AM
How do players seriously not have the bloody sky warp in 2011?
Heh, I didn't even think of sky warp - but yeah, only reason not to have it now is sheer laziness, and that is a poor excuse.
And if you've done CoP, you have Tavnazian Ring, and you can also teleport and go via Al'Taieu.
Soranika
10-31-2011, 05:46 AM
If all these forms of warps make travel by chocobo and airships irrelevant, why is there a serious discussion about this?
Mirage
10-31-2011, 07:34 AM
I noticed someone mention all the different possible ways to teleport in this game. What they didn't mention is how much time it takes to get access to all those different teleports especially when most of them are from dead content.
Most of the warps work independently of whatever is "alive content" at any given time. Nowadays you don't even need to wait for your own nation to get rare OP warps, you can just change to whatever nation holds the region any given week, and get it, then have it carry over to your original nation when you change back.
Can you get every single OP warp in one week? Probably not. Can you 90% of the OP warps you'll be using on a regular basis over the course of two weeks? Unless you were incredibly unlucky, yes.
Quests for warps to aht urhgan can be done at any time you wish too, without help from anyone.
Aeonk
10-31-2011, 08:31 AM
I'm Sorry OP... the community here are a punch of Fanboys/noobs who don't know what's best half of the time.
I think SE needs to be MORE "CREATIVE" and come up with different mounts and ways of traveling other than sticking with "Chocobos" Onry. This game lacks creativity and those who praise the uncreative aspects of the game such as "Chocobos Mounts onry" are simply dumb fanboys...
While I'm at it, another thing this game truly lacks is how the "Armors" look.
Majority of the low/high lvl armor looks like the same armor you see but sometimes different color with different names. Makes no Sense, give us new designs for each armor not same designs with reskinned models... Soo.. UnCreative..
Also, Crabs, Worms, Crabs, Rabbits, Crabs, Fairies, Crabs, Demons, Crabs, ETC. seriously?
How come majority of the monsters are the SAME and only have different names!? RESKIN DOESN'T COUNT!
I want to see new models not just new names and status...
Names and Status means Nothing when everything looks and feels visually the same.
New pets, new armor designs, New monsters with different models and NOT same Models of reskinn crap that we have already seen before!
WE NEED SE TO BE CREATIVE PPL,
Thumbs Up for OP!
I think you don't know the meaning of the word "creative" if your idea of creativity is to blatantly rip off another game.
In a day and age where nearly every MMO out there is trying to be a WoW clone, one of the few things FFXI has going for it is that it's NOT WoW. Why would you want to ruin that?
MDenham
10-31-2011, 09:40 AM
I think you don't know the meaning of the word "creative" if your idea of creativity is to blatantly rip off another game.Clearly originality is uncreative.
Dohati
10-31-2011, 10:36 AM
a black chocobo would be kind of neat for going up cliffs and stuff, but flying to ru'aun etc wouldn't work in vanadiel. SE would have to add sky space for us to fly in that we dont currently have. main point though, it's definitely not something we need, and would take a ton of SE's time and our PCs' memories that could be used for much more useful stuff.
svengalis
10-31-2011, 12:16 PM
How do players seriously not have the bloody sky warp in 2011?
I don't know maybe they are on new accounts and didn't bother with Rise of Zilart because it's dead content now. That's just a guess though.
Greatguardian
10-31-2011, 01:36 PM
I don't know maybe they are on new accounts and didn't bother with Rise of Zilart because it's dead content now. That's just a guess though.
Such a bad troll. Are you really that bored?
Zones don't scale on the Z axis so it probably be pointless. What is a problem with FFXI is how your chocobo is limited to certain areas. Like can't even use them in the past.
MDenham
10-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Such a bad troll. Are you really that bored?Meh, I don't have the sky warp because (1) good luck soloing ZM5 on WHM; (2) my LS never has anyone interested in doing the ZMs; and (3) leveling another job (say, PUP) to 95 just to get Sky access is a waste of time that could be more productively spent doing... well, pretty much anything else.
Seriha
10-31-2011, 02:18 PM
I think you don't know the meaning of the word "creative" if your idea of creativity is to blatantly rip off another game.
In a day and age where nearly every MMO out there is trying to be a WoW clone, one of the few things FFXI has going for it is that it's NOT WoW. Why would you want to ruin that?
Just for curiosity's sake, elaborate how FFXI is so different and better as a result.
Off the top of my head, I'd say the art styles and emphasis on PvP/Factions are the biggest differences. From the mathematical standpoint, however, I'd say WoW and many of its "clones" are more robust and flexible, particularly when it comes to spells/abilities and things monsters do in battle. And for those who want to see Campaign done right, play Rift.
Juri_Licious
10-31-2011, 02:53 PM
How do players seriously not have the bloody sky warp in 2011?
Heh, I didn't even think of sky warp - but yeah, only reason not to have it now is sheer laziness, and that is a poor excuse.
And if you've done CoP, you have Tavnazian Ring, and you can also teleport and go via Al'Taieu.
There's so much content in this game that devours time. So saying everyone who doesn't have sky warp is lazy isn't quite right.
And sky isn't really a necessity these days.
Krashport
10-31-2011, 02:55 PM
hmm 9+ year old game, Your not going to see much of a change. Going to have to get over it people.. all we/your paying for is updates nothing more besides networking. Where there is a lot of games you can just buy and play online for free! =/
Also if SE would ever add flying mounts it would be a Choco, But seeing you can't even jump w/in FFXI, That is cause of the um Y Z plain there isn't any. They would have to revamp the whole games eng.
Greatguardian
10-31-2011, 03:22 PM
There's so much content in this game that devours time. So saying everyone who doesn't have sky warp is lazy isn't quite right.
And sky isn't really a necessity these days.
Go get sky warp if you plan to do Zilart Voidwatch.
Is that a more reasonable expectation?
Babekeke
10-31-2011, 03:27 PM
I saw a peanut stand,
Heard a rubber band,
I saw a needle that winked its eye.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
I saw a front porch swing,
Heard a diamond ring,
I saw a polka-dot railroad tie.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
I seen a clothes horse he r'ar up and buck
And they tell me that a man made a vegetable truck
I didn't see that I only heard
But just to be sociable I'll take your word
I heard a fireside chat
I saw a baseball bat
And I just laughed till I thought I'd die
But I'd been done seen about everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
Krashport
10-31-2011, 07:44 PM
I saw a peanut stand,
Heard a rubber band,
I saw a needle that winked its eye.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
I saw a front porch swing,
Heard a diamond ring,
I saw a polka-dot railroad tie.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
I seen a clothes horse he r'ar up and buck
And they tell me that a man made a vegetable truck
I didn't see that I only heard
But just to be sociable I'll take your word
I heard a fireside chat
I saw a baseball bat
And I just laughed till I thought I'd die
But I'd been done seen about everything
When I see a Chocobo fly.
10 out of 10 very nice!! :D
Laraul
10-31-2011, 07:56 PM
Are they even possible in FF XI or are we limited by the PS2?
400 posts... and you ask this? You even used to word "mounts" and not Chocobo? They do have wings you know...
Oh and then you bring the PS2 into it.
Yes they are possible. Much more so than it's possible to take such a question seriously.
Runespider
10-31-2011, 09:02 PM
When they allowed you to use flying mounts in basic areas of wow they had to remodel a lot of the maps, because before they were made just for ground transport and there were holes/blank areas in the landscape everywhere. Not gonna happen.
What I would like to see is more use made of the chocobos you can raise yourself, so the choco you have in your stable is the one that you get to use whenever you pay to use a choco anywhere (make the choco whistle unlimted use and the choco better than normal ones too).
Arlan
11-01-2011, 01:32 AM
When they allowed you to use flying mounts in basic areas of wow they had to remodel a lot of the maps, because before they were made just for ground transport and there were holes/blank areas in the landscape everywhere. Not gonna happen.
What I would like to see is more use made of the chocobos you can raise yourself, so the choco you have in your stable is the one that you get to use whenever you pay to use a choco anywhere (make the choco whistle unlimted use and the choco better than normal ones too).
That's so uncreative and boring.
We need new pets for different types of players.
Chocobos are nice but boring when that is all you get as a pet that transports you places.
Hell, They need to create different ridable pets that are JUST LIKE Chocobos just so players have more OPTIONS to actually enjoy riding different mounts or pets or w/e you want to call them.
If they gave me an Option to ride a Dragon or a Giant Wolf, I would choose them only because it doesn't look like a chocobo and it is not a chocobo. Why? Because it is something "Different" to look at while traveling.
They don't NEED to be extremely useful for getting to places, they just need to be there for "different options" of pets other players want to ride.
With more "OPTIONS" of different kinds of pets to ride, the more better it is overall cause lets face the truth, we all like having options.
I played this game since 2006 and I'm sick of chocobos.
Give us other options of riding different pets.
It doesn't HAVE to be for special transportations.. It can be the same as riding a chocobo but with different style.
lol
Greatguardian
11-01-2011, 01:34 AM
Not sure if serious.
Goobbue Racers were always pretty damn dope, though.
Arlan
11-01-2011, 01:51 AM
I think you don't know the meaning of the word "creative" if your idea of creativity is to blatantly rip off another game.
In a day and age where nearly every MMO out there is trying to be a WoW clone, one of the few things FFXI has going for it is that it's NOT WoW. Why would you want to ruin that?
That is an "Excuse" for motivating SE to stay Uncreative for this matter of subject.
If SE creates different mounts, and different kinds of mounts for FFXI other than the Chocobo, then that DOESN'T MEAN they are ripping off from other games. NOPE... That only means they are embracing their creativity. They can create many different kinds of mounts for different styles of players and that is awesome if they do. But they don't.
If being creative is "Limitations" and less "Options" then I call "BS" on that one.
If being creative is "stay with what you got" and "Don't add anything new" then you are clearly a fanboy.
Here is an Analogy:
Microsoft created a PC, a computer made for more average people
And Now, Apple created MAC, a whole different style of computer.
They all got their own OS that makes them unique, now, did Microsoft and Apple Rip each other off?
They took ideas from each other that worked sure, but they made their own OS and it is the individual's preferences of which OS they like to use.
I prefer using MAC so I do.
Apple and Microsoft are original because they both have their own different style of OSs.
You cannot say SE isn't going to be original if they added different mounts to ride on... They can come up with their own mounts, give players options and preference to ride on pets they want to ride instead of having NO CHOICE but to ride a big fat chicken...
Imagen living in a REAL world where EVERYONE drives 1 Model car.. The only thing that can change is the color of the same Modeled car... You tell me, would it be boring to live in that world due to "RL Limitations?" or live in today's RL world where we all have different preferences in cars and different styles of cars such as, Toyota, Lexus, Mercedes, and Ford, etc.
Think about it.
svengalis
11-01-2011, 03:46 AM
Heh, I didn't even think of sky warp - but yeah, only reason not to have it now is sheer laziness, and that is a poor excuse.
And if you've done CoP, you have Tavnazian Ring, and you can also teleport and go via Al'Taieu.
How do you get to sky from Al'Taieu?
Babekeke
11-01-2011, 04:36 AM
You can get to Tavnazia via teleport and go through Al'Taieu.
You can get to Sky via teleport then sky warp in the crag.
2 separate statements, not linked.
Tamoa
11-01-2011, 04:47 AM
You can get to Tavnazia via teleport and go through Al'Taieu.
You can get to Sky via teleport then sky warp in the crag.
2 separate statements, not linked.
This.
I guess the obvious wasn't so obvious.