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Kakeshi
10-23-2011, 03:20 PM
Possible in the future to see empys/mithics/relics mailable winthin an account?
I think it would be a good option for players that decied they want to change race/sex since SE doesnt provide a race change option. That or actually provide a race change option for players that made a bad choice in race when they first started playing.

Having to start over again isnt that bad these days, but on the other hand doing a relic/empy/mythic a second time is redundant. So possible to see this in the future?
(Horrid spelling and spell check not working please forgive) :cool:

Ihnako
10-23-2011, 06:08 PM
And in a few month you start another character cause you don't like the new one anymore?
Bad idea - thumbs down

Mirage
10-23-2011, 09:42 PM
What's wrong with starting a new character and transferring the gear? How does it negatively affect you that others can do it?

Ihnako
10-24-2011, 01:00 AM
Think about it twice and you'll find the answer yourself.

Mirage
10-24-2011, 07:16 AM
Yeah, I did, and the answer is nothing.

Ihnako
10-25-2011, 12:11 AM
So you'r fashion addicted and all you want is to look alike the one trendy player.
Since there is no real difference/challenge between race and gender for a half brained player the only logical solution why someone want's to change his race/gender is cause he dislikes how his character looks with in his favored gear.

And in case I remember right - there are 3'rd party tools that would change it for you - only exception, you have to use a PC.

Other reasons, such as HP, MP, STR, DEX, aso doesn't count cause at higher levels they aren't that important anymore.
Even at the time when Lv.75 was max level - it doesn't played a role.
So we'r back to a "flavour of the month" reason and that isn't a reason SE od any other should spend time for.

Mirage
10-25-2011, 12:39 AM
Is there anything wrong with being fashion addicted? In a video game? Do you have something personal against me wanting to rather play a different race, but not wanting to spend all the time getting the gear a second time? Does it negatively affect you in any way? If so, please tell me how exactly this this affects you negatively. In terms of actual resources spent by SE, this is probably some of the easiest and fastest things to change.

And why should I use illegal third party tools? They don't change the appearance for other players, and they don't change stats. Also, there are issues with using certain race/gender specific gear when doing this.

Ihnako
10-26-2011, 12:17 AM
Sorry but obviously you don't understand what's going on nor do you have a clue of what it would mean to introduce such a system.

#1 You have to make sure that you can only deliver non deliverable items to an character bound by your account.
#2 You have to make sure that the system won#t be abused by a 3'rd party like gil sellers or other players that behave in an improper way to obliterate their traces.
#3 You have to make sure that you can only use the service once in a while and not every day or even every hour cause you just want to change race/gender but not your name.
#4 You have to make sure that the new character has to do all missions/quests to wear mission/quest equipment otherwise the item/gear could be sold at the AH or via bazaar.

These 4 poins alone mean that you'll have to rewrite more than just a ra/ex flag.
So the only solution for you is to use 3'rd party tools or bear with the fact that you have to live with the decission you made the day the character was created or make a new one and get all the fancy stuff again.

End of discussion

Mirage
10-26-2011, 12:28 AM
#1: This system already exists. It would only require an expansion of the current list of deliverable items.
#2: How could it be abused by third parties like gilsellers? The items in question would only be sendable to other characters on the same account. You won't be able to give them away to anyone else.
#3: What?
#4: You can't sell rare/ex gear on the AH, or in bazaars.

Who is it that doesn't understand what's going on, again?

Tsukino_Kaji
10-27-2011, 08:14 PM
What's wrong with starting a new character and transferring the gear? How does it negatively affect you that others can do it?Epic greifing. Change of handle and no one knows who you are.

Retsujo
11-05-2011, 08:24 AM
Nah, Ihnako is just a jerk that no one really likes that much. Has nothing but negative things to say about 90% of everything she replies to.

Ihnako
11-05-2011, 07:17 PM
Offending other people won't change the fact that the requested service isn't necessary nor (assumption) would SE consider such a service cause they would have to deal with the previous stated points.

Also IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE GAME AND YOUR CHARACTER >> FORMAT C:

Mirage
11-05-2011, 11:25 PM
Epic greifing. Change of handle and no one knows who you are.

SE would still know which account it belonged to. If they repeatedly got GM calls about griefing by different characters, and they all belonged to the same account, they should still be able to take care of the problem.

Ihnako
11-06-2011, 12:49 AM
That would assume that SE esp. the GMs would have a tool to trace the activity of an account and not only of a specific character.
As far as I know - GMs just track the activity of specific characters while the special taskforce could look into the activity of the whole acount.

Why should SE implement something that degenerates into additional work and does nothing else?
Even the "we copy all that's good" company that once was run by Bill Roper doesn't have such a feature and they know why.
The argument is that you do not like your character suddenly no longer traceable.
The taste of a person does not change from today to tomorrow, especially if one has been through so much with this character. So here lies another reason behind it and that can only mean the times when SE should get the idea to pimp one race at a time the very people who demand so insistently for this service here, just switch to this race is. And therefore we don't need the service - weak minded people shuld just suffer or quit.

Mirage
11-06-2011, 01:16 AM
As far as you know. Where did you read that GMs can't see which account a character belongs to?

Ihnako
11-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Hint: Ask your local GM

Retsujo
11-08-2011, 08:59 PM
If the case is serious enough, as in the case of extreme harassment or things that can be taken to court, they have the ability to look into things.


Offending other people won't change the fact that the requested service isn't necessary nor (assumption) would SE consider such a service cause they would have to deal with the previous stated points.

Offending other people doesn't change anything. I don't understand why you don't understand that.

Ihnako
11-09-2011, 12:43 AM
And again - they don't have the tools to trace account not character activity. Esp. in the event when certain circumstances will lead to the creation of a new character with all the items from the character you deleted cause it was well known for beeing the bad guy.

Therefore create a new character from the scratch and earn all again.
Otherwise such a service would just be abused and would lead in a more unbalanced world than it is right now.

Mirage
11-09-2011, 07:11 AM
Hint: Ask your local GM

That's no answer. It just shows that you don't really know either. You're assuming just as many things as you claim others to be assuming.