PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE......

[Clou777]

please add an npc to abyssea areas that will lower or remove a choice of light from your character for a small fee of some kind, im sure theres a lot of people that get pissed off when ur in an alliance for exp/cruor/time etc and some jackass is banging out WS's and piling ruby lights onto your character when all you want is pearl, azure and amber.

hell! im in an alliance right now farming cruor and someones been doin exactly that so alot of my kills are spawning pointless red chests that i dont want.

[Zagen]

So you don't want to cap EXP per monster in non-Heroes zones, or cap faster in Heroes zones? Or do you want them to slow down killing by holding TP so they don't get a ruby WS kill?

The only time having capped Ruby is a bad thing is when you've capped gold/slivery/ebon and no one else is leaving your group to dump merits, switch jobs, etc.

[svengalis]

Having capped Ruby is not a bad thing no matter what you do.

[Clou777]

its just for choice, i for one dont need exping as most of my jobs are capped so would be nice to get rid of ruby only to have the rest remain for blue/gold chest farming

[Zagen]

its just for choice, i for one dont need exping as most of my jobs are capped so would be nice to get rid of ruby only to have the rest remain for blue/gold chest farming

So now you're contradicting yourself:

im sure theres a lot of people that get pissed off when ur in an alliance for exp/cruor/time etc

You know how to compensate for red chests, kill faster it evens out assuming all lights are capped. Small tip: Ruby WS kills are a part of "kill faster"

[Aliekber]

Having capped Ruby is not a bad thing no matter what you do.

It's bad if you're Whisker cleaving for KIs. All you want is Pearl Amber and enough Azure to not time out.

[Alhanelem]

How about this: How about you just don't lasthit mobs with weapon skills if you don't want ruby? Gee, that was hard.

[Clou777]

How about this: How about you just don't lasthit mobs with weapon skills if you don't want ruby? Gee, that was hard.

this is my point, even when u tell ally members not to do it and they keep killing with ws, kicking them is a little unfair but it still annoys a lot of people

[cidbahamut]

If you're doing an exp party you shouldn't be worrying about ruby at all.

If you need to be murdering things and not racking up ruby then you should be targeting mobs that don't give ruby.

WS kills are going to happen. Period.

[detlef]

Yeah, if it's for xp don't even worry about it. If you are doing something else like building amber lights then you should have complete control over how and which mobs die.

[Reiterpallasch]

How about this: How about you just don't lasthit mobs with weapon skills if you don't want ruby? Gee, that was hard.
What happens when you're a good player on a DD job that doesn't suck in abyssea, and that "last hit" is with the mob at 100%?

[Alhanelem]

What happens when you're a good player on a DD job that doesn't suck in abyssea, and that "last hit" is with the mob at 100%?
then you don't weaponskill at all?

[Tsuneo]

then you don't weaponskill at all?
Wrong answer. Holding TP will result in a crap party. The correct answer is ruby is worth the increase in kill speed.

[Alhanelem]

Wrong answer. Holding TP will result in a crap party. The correct answer is ruby is worth the increase in kill speed.
I don't disagree. It was a sarcastic remark.

If you don't want a particular kind of light, you have complete control over that. If you're just EXPing, and you're killing with the kind of high kill speed you describe, it shouldn't be much of an issue that you are getting ruby light.

You can also choose monsters that don't give ruby light to EXP on.

[BorkBorkBork]

YAY another derp ruby is the devil thread.

[Saefinn]

Best Abyssea parties I've had have had all lights capped, including Ruby, in fact Ruby chests are very good - more cruor and more exp per kill is never a bad thing. You're gonna get gold and azure chests too. If the party's just starting out or you've got a massive influx of new members you might hold out on the Ruby lights for TEs and have somebody going mad with Azure lights.

Though I know the frustration of getting somebody to not Ruby, but instead of whining or throwing a hissy fit (as some folks do), you compensate instead, have a good BLM or SCH to come nuke the shit out of everything, cap Azure and kill stuff quick for more chests.

[noodles355]

Ruby lights are terrible for cruor farming parties. Last thing I want to find is a damn red box with a useless silver light.

[Alhanelem]

Ruby lights are terrible for cruor farming parties. Last thing I want to find is a damn red box with a useless silver light.

:confused:.......................

Really. If you're killing fast enough, it really doesn't matter if you have any ruby light or not. You're still going to get plenty of time/exp/cruor boxes.

[noodles355]

It was a sarcastic remark towards the OP, who suggested that getting red boxes was terrible for cruor farming, when silver lights from red boxes increase the amount of cruor per kill.

[Vold]

It is terrible for cruor farming. A lot of good the extra cruor does you when you're getting red chests instead of blue. UNLESS WE ARE TALKING CRUOR CHAIN PARTIES. If your only goal is to farm gold or blue chests, ruby is your #1 enemy. For everything else you better farm ruby light.

[cidbahamut]

It is terrible for cruor farming. A lot of good the extra cruor does you when you're getting red chests instead of blue. UNLESS WE ARE TALKING CRUOR CHAIN PARTIES.
There are people who try to farm cruor using something other than cruor chains? What sense does that make?

[Arcon]

There are people who try to farm cruor using something other than cruor chains? What sense does that make?

Cruor farming as a secondary goal, or side effect? I've accumulated over 8M cruor so far, and I only ever went cruor farming one single time, and I promise you, it's not from that. I believe for the vast majority of people the vast majority of cruor comes from other things than purposefully cruor farming runs.

I wouldn't mind an option for this, as Azure, Ruby and Amber can all be annoying, but I don't think it's necessary. Anything other than EXP you shouldn't do with people you don't trust. And seal farming, although that doesn't require lights anyway.

[cidbahamut]

Yes but the context presented was cruor farming, and if you're going out specifically to farm cruor the bulk of your cruor is going to be from the alternating chain kills and most assuredly not from blue chests.

[Alhanelem]

If you want to cruor farm via blue boxes, then just fight monsters that don't give ruby light. It's not like ANY abyssea trash mob is hard for an elite player with all jobs to 95.

[Xellith]

I'd be happy if they just made it so you could lock your lights so you don't gain any more of any category. But really I'm fine with the current system and would rather they be doing better things with their time.

[scaevola]

my victory smites one shot worms

sorry dude :(

[Winrie]

While were on the subject of requests, how many Moogles do I have to kidnap (/stares at camate) to get an abyssea npc in whitegate or al zhabi lol, srsly add one lol

[noodles355]

It is terrible for cruor farming. [...] UNLESS WE ARE TALKING CRUOR CHAIN PARTIES.If you are farming specifically for cruor ("cruor farming" would suggest this), then you should be making a "Cruor chain party"...

[scaevola]

To be fair, cruor chain parties actually require some concentration and communication to keep going, and don't generally benefit from more bodies. Maybe I've just run into bad luck/am terrible at this game, but if I'm specifically targeting cruor I tend to do way better solo than even with one other person working through another camp. More cruor is good, for sure, but I'm totally 100% satisfied with 30-40k an hour from worms if it means I don't have to pay attention.

[Babekeke]

I generally do an exp pt > cap lights > solo cruor with cruor chains. Ruby doesn't hurt any, though it would be nice to drop it to 0 after I leave the exp pt, even though I wouldn't hold off on ruby kills while soloing. TBH I'd probably drop all my azure too if I had enough time built up, and farm KIs while I was there :D

[scaevola]

For that, capped ruby is actually not too bad, though I wouldn't go out of my way to build it; those 50-cruor box breaks are quick and add up.

[Zumi]

A lot of WS will take 100% of a mobs HP so yea thats pretty dumb not WSing because you don't want ruby light.

[noodles355]

The joys of Corsair. No one complains if I OHKO things from 100% because it gives amber light.

[Arcon]

The joys of Corsair. No one complains if I OHKO things from 100% because it gives amber light.

Actually, amber can also be annoying in certain circumstances, namely EXP, even more so in random parties that are slower than normal already. But yeah, in many cases it's really not an issue, just like ruby isn't.

[noodles355]

You miss the point. Point is retards don't go shouting "omfg stop rubying!!1"

[Tsukino_Kaji]

YAY another derp ruby is the devil thread.I never seen any other ones. >.>

[scaevola]

We should flood the forums with "ruby is awesome; please WS more" threads.