I'm curious

[Arkant]

What is possible for this game if they removed PS2 Support... Is it only the PS2 holding it back, or is there out dated code doing it? Could we see better graphics or whole new continents? Does anyone really know?

[Symbiote]

Short answer: Everything.

[Arkant]

Short answer: Everything.
I don't want the short answer, I wanna know exactly what is possible, every little or big piece of info i could get..

[Ravenmore]

Short term, more armor, zones, one less reason for them to use reskins(wouldn't stop them though) AT term update. On top of less time going towards trying to fig out how to fit any new content onto the HDD of the ps2 and more time spent on coming up with new content.

They been creative with their fixes but you have to think how that time could had been better spent.

[Krashport]

"I Think" Final Fantasy 14 was made because of PS2 limitations which is holding back Final Fantasy 11, 14 feels like a remake. Then again Final Fantasy games themselves are a story that never is "Final" I feel, that's where its very tough to make another Final Fantasy Online game successfully.

Me being a Final fantasy 11 member for so long the 1st thing I said to myself Once I found out about 14 was.. Why are they making another Final Fantasy Online, There is nothing wrong with this one that I been playing for 7+ years. Second thing came to mind was.. I wonder how many members would jump to 14, If SE would let us transfer our Final fantasy 11 character to Final fantasy 14.

Sorry but playing an online game for so long no one wants to start over and that is where 14 fails... for the most part. I personally think if SE made Final Fantasy 14 exactly like 11 and left 14 graphics like they are, Also gave us the option to transfer our accounts, Final Fantasy 14 would have been more successfully.

Final Fantasy 11 has been going on for a very long time, Back when PS2 was sold in stores lets just say you will never see Final Fantasy 14 graphics if PS2 stays also things will never change if Members don't start speaking up.

[Kaisha]

I think the existing engine would implode if they tried to do anything 'modern' with it visually given how bad performance already is in group combat, along with visual effects that seem to wreck performance on a variety of hardware, including the haze used on flux, telepoints, and avatars.

New content can already be done on the PS2. There's enough hard drive space, and they've created workarounds for software limitations on the game before. Back in the day the concept of large-scale events like Dynamis was considered 'impossible', and that system is a joke compared to some of the even larger-scale stuff they've introduced over the years.......even if the framerate went to hell in the process (hey there Besieged!).


Most I would expect are subtle visual enhancements in the form of engine and shader tweaks. Expecting remodelled characters, zones, etc, is too huge a task for an MMO this late into its life.

[Arkant]

I hope they removed ps2 so any limitations that it brings are gone, I wanna see this game with more content.. Something more than zones with a re-skin...

[Gokku]

you do realize they are working with a skeleton dev team if they had removed it 4-5 years ago back when ps3's first came out and told everyone else to either get on 36- ps3 or pc THEN major improvements to the game its interface mechanics etc etc could have been made.

SE's track record for asking questions is pretty simple they ask something they already have an answer to. regardless of if they dropped it 10-1 they would then claim they dont have the man power to make changes. the changes that xi would require would be a COMPLETE overhaul of the basic game programing.

[Mirage]

They could fix everything regardless of PS2 support. What's holding them back is wanting to keep the clients functionality 100% the same for both platforms.

A different UI would be possible without changing the PS2 UI. More efficient graphics would be possible without changing PS2 graphics. Even more zones would be possible if SE just persuaded Sony to give them more HDD space.

[Kristal]

They could fix everything regardless of PS2 support. What's holding them back is wanting to keep the clients functionality 100% the same for both platforms.

A different UI would be possible without changing the PS2 UI. More efficient graphics would be possible without changing PS2 graphics. Even more zones would be possible if SE just persuaded Sony to give them more HDD space.

It has little to do with persuasion. The PS2 simply doesn't have the capability to update it's own code like the PS3 has, and no other game that uses the PS2 HD comes close to the HD usage of FFXI. Sony simply didn't expect any game to hit the 10GB limit assignable to a single game, and even FFXI took years to build up to that limit.

[Mirage]

Well correct me if I'm wrong, but I was of the impression that the allocated disk space per game could be chnaged by using one of those few servers Sony still keeps online. It would probably require a reinstall of the game, though.

[Tagrineth]

I suspect SE might have a little surprise in store for us when DX8 support falls, since they know they can't leave the PC version in Legacy Limbo for long before the playerbase starts vanishing.

With regard to dropping PS2 support, in general, what I'd expect to see if PS2 support was discontinued would be some new gear models, a radical expansion of the auto-translator (even the 360 has 16 times the RAM of the PS2), probably higher-resolution versions of most 2D graphics (some spell and JA animations are 2D objects, for example, and of course buff icons).

Also seems possible that a redone DX9+ engine might introduce other graphical benefits, like a better frame rate, but the above seems most likely.

[MojoJojo]

Maybe i'm just a negative nancy, but i think people are fooling themselves about things happening if SE ever decided to drop the ps2. Things will stay the same, only the "skeleton crew dev team" will have one less thing to screw around with.

[Vold]

Only way we'd ever see our dreams for this game to come true would be for the PS2 to be dropped or put on it's own server, code reworked from the ground up, and a much larger dev crew. Chances of all three of those miracles happening are slim. Not impossible, just improbable. At this point in the game's life the chances of that are even less. Shrug. I stay hopeful because the day I stop being hopeful is the day I might as well hang up the boots. But deep down I know the deal. I knew the deal the moment SE announced Rapture FFXIV, and then the interviews that followed where they admit to choosing a new game over upgrading FFXI graphics and such. SE is content with how things are. It's a travesty for this game but that's just how it is, I guess.

[Arkant]

I would like to see this game last longer, i don't wanna see it run into a wall cause SE is too lazy or cheap to hire a full dev team to keep the game going, I couldn't care less if they are pinning all their hopes on FFXIV, it ain't FFXI and it never will be... I have yet to see one person oppose the idea of dropping ps2 support...

[Mirage]

You can't have looked too hard, then.

[Atomic_Skull]

I knew the deal the moment SE announced Rapture FFXIV, and then the interviews that followed where they admit to choosing a new game over upgrading FFXI graphics and such. SE is content with how things are. It's a travesty for this game but that's just how it is, I guess.


Yep SE has basically taken an "all or nothing" approach with FFXIV. There is no Plan B for what happens if they can't get FFXI players to switch. They'd rather burn down the whole MMO division trying to make FFXIV work.

[CrAZYVIC]

What is possible for this game if they removed PS2 Support... Is it only the PS2 holding it back, or is there out dated code doing it? Could we see better graphics or whole new continents? Does anyone really know?

I lose my hopes with this, because FFXI have a very short dev team at the moment. I dont think they can make a graphic update with the actual number of people working in FFXI

Read this

riginally Posted by Hiromichi_Tanaka
Hello!

All I can say is that this is simply a difference in operational policies.

For FFXI, forum operation policy wise, we arranged it so that basically the community team answers and posts.

Compared to FFXIV, FFXI is currently being developed by an extremely small amount of people and because of this each team member’s work load is extremely high. Due to this, in order to prevent imbalances in responses on the forum due to individual developer answers, the community team looks over every thread and picks up on the high priority topics to report to the development team.

Actually, internally we operate a closed forum in exactly the same format as the forum you use and community reps create threads for us internally with the topics they have picked up on. The developers, QA team, community team, and other related personnel are then able to check it out and we can discuss the issues internally. Following this, after getting confirmation from the lead developer, a draft is put together and is then checked by the producer, director, and assistant director, then once the green light is given, the community team makes the response after a consensus has been reached.

Due to this kind of operational structure, depending on the development conditions, sometimes responses can be delayed a bit. However, we are currently operating so that we can relay information to you from the whole team.

Nonetheless, I think we are holding back a little bit too much, myself included, so in the future we will all try our best to unabashedly make some posts. Of course, these responses will reflect the consensus of the entire team as well.

P.S. Everyone makes sure to check Mocchi’s jokes.

[Economizer]

What is possible for this game if they removed PS2 Support... Is it only the PS2 holding it back, or is there out dated code doing it? Could we see better graphics or whole new continents? Does anyone really know?

While the PS2 isn't the main thing holding FFXI back (SE's stubbornness in not updating FFXI gradually over time for example), it is the major thing holding FFXI back, in both hardware and more importantly, symbolism.

The PS2 is currently more of a symbol of what SE desires for this game. When SE desires for this game to have long term survival over focusing on a probably unsavable game like FFXIV, the PS2 will be the first thing to go, even if it is gradually with a well thought out depreciation plan.

On the hardware side, the PS2 holds the game back in two major ways, and a third lesser way.

Hard Drive space.
RAM
Graphical Processing Power


If we had more hard drive space, we could definitely have a new expansion with a new continent. At the current time, doing this would take a lot of work, but with more hard drive space, this would be more possible. On the hard drive front, the Xbox 360 version and possibly the PC version also have risks in this regard, since some 360 users may be on a 20GB hard drive (and would either need to upgrade or lose the hard drive to FFXI only, and even then this would only be temporary), and some PC users may have limited space (easier to upgrade however).

On the RAM front, eliminating the PS2 would bring definite gains, but unless we plan on upgrading the graphics (which would require a bigger revamp of code and definitely more hard drive space) universally, it would mainly be a way to add more gear, items, have more NPCs and objects in zones, and have more auto translate phrases. On the graphics front however, SE could just release a high definition pack for PC users only if they really wanted to, but even this might require some major coding work.

On the graphical front, unless improved graphics were optional, this might alienate some lower end PCs and make the game harder to run so smoothly on older hardware. Personally, I think that graphics are the least important part of moving this game forward, but it is an option some people may want. Still, this would require the most coding work - I'm not looking for a new game, just new expansions, and maybe for PC users, a high resolution texture pack.

[Arkant]

While the PS2 isn't the main thing holding FFXI back (SE's stubbornness in not updating FFXI gradually over time for example), it is the major thing holding FFXI back, in both hardware and more importantly, symbolism.

The PS2 is currently more of a symbol of what SE desires for this game. When SE desires for this game to have long term survival over focusing on a probably unsavable game like FFXIV, the PS2 will be the first thing to go, even if it is gradually with a well thought out depreciation plan.

On the hardware side, the PS2 holds the game back in two major ways, and a third lesser way.

Hard Drive space.
RAM
Graphical Processing Power


If we had more hard drive space, we could definitely have a new expansion with a new continent. At the current time, doing this would take a lot of work, but with more hard drive space, this would be more possible. On the hard drive front, the Xbox 360 version and possibly the PC version also have risks in this regard, since some 360 users may be on a 20GB hard drive (and would either need to upgrade or lose the hard drive to FFXI only, and even then this would only be temporary), and some PC users may have limited space (easier to upgrade however).

On the RAM front, eliminating the PS2 would bring definite gains, but unless we plan on upgrading the graphics (which would require a bigger revamp of code and definitely more hard drive space) universally, it would mainly be a way to add more gear, items, have more NPCs and objects in zones, and have more auto translate phrases. On the graphics front however, SE could just release a high definition pack for PC users only if they really wanted to, but even this might require some major coding work.

On the graphical front, unless improved graphics were optional, this might alienate some lower end PCs and make the game harder to run so smoothly on older hardware. Personally, I think that graphics are the least important part of moving this game forward, but it is an option some people may want. Still, this would require the most coding work - I'm not looking for a new game, just new expansions, and maybe for PC users, a high resolution texture pack.

That is very detailed :D

...

I'm not overly fussed about a graphical upgrade to the game, i just want more content that isn't rehashed zones. I wanna keep playing FFXI, I have loved the game since i started in 2004 and i don't wanna give it up...

[Feynman]

I think the rehashed zones are more a reflection of the slim dev team rather than any limitations. My opinion though.

I played on the PS2 since it came out and only switched to PC in the last few months. Why? Because SE does NOT CURRENTLY support the PS2. Oh sure they do on paper. Sure they include updates for it as well. But what most, if not all, PS2 players can tell you, the game does not run properly on PS2 at all anymore. SE has not fixed the problem and refuses to acknowledge that it is a problem. I switched to PC when I realized I couldn't teleport to whitegate from sandy, I couldn't OP warp from sandy, I could not continue the CoP, ToAU, WotG, or ACP missions because the cutscenes did not work. I never bought abyssea because other PS2 users often complained of zoning into maws crashing their systems. So no missions, no abyssea, sketchy interactions with NPCs. This is the result of no support.

What would we get by dropping the ps2? Probably an even further reduced dev team that can't implement any new features.

Major graphics overhaul will not happen. If SE drops the ps2 they will lose some players. Maybe not tons but some at least. If the do a major graphics update they will lose even more from the number of people that can no longer play because they are on older PCs that can't handle the new updates. Sure new graphics might draw in new people but if there is one thing SE (at least in the USA) is horrible at, it is advertising. And remember they are still hoping FFXIV will take off. They aren't trying to attract new players to this game.

Plus enjoy all my typos because I have to run and don't have time to read through this again!

[Zarchery]

Probably not much is my guess. The Playstation 2 is the convenient scapegoat for everyone's frustrations. Bring up Playstation 2, and suddenly everyone is an expert on exactly how the game is designed.

[Yinnyth]

If memory serves, a while ago they had a severe problem in which suddenly PS2 HDDs couldn't fit the update until they retooled the coding. There have been updates (and even expansions) since then, but it should have served as a humbling reminder that the PS2 is quickly reaching full saturation on ffxi. There will be a time in which they simply can't fit anymore game on it, and that has become a part of the development process.

So, no, it is not a scapegoat. There is a real process which goes on when the development team designs an update in which they at the very least spend time making certain it can work on PS2 and at the very most actually spend time changing things specifically so they can work on PS2. If PS2 were dropped, it probably would not be an opening of the flood gates like many people think... ffxi won't suddenly have ffxiv graphics and 50 new zones to explore. But PS2 support has been holding back the game for a long time. If you really, truly love FFXI and want it to have another 10 years of meaningful updates, do it a favor and find something beefier than a PS2 to play it on.

[Economizer]

I'm not overly fussed about a graphical upgrade to the game

Nor am I. Aside from the possibility of a high resolution texture pack for the PC, I'm not really thinking we'll see an "upgrade" to the game's graphics aside from some tweaks. The graphics in this game can look very good, or somewhat bad, depending on what you are looking at. This game could even be consider to have a "look" of sorts. Characters fit this look. The background occasionally does and occasionally does not.

Although, on the "graphics" front, the biggest impact we'd have by loosing the PS2 is the possibility of way more mob variations and gear variations since the RAM would be increased from whatever the PS2's is (I think that's like 32MB?) to the 512 that the Xbox 360 has, assuming that the Xbox's hard drive would be able to handle it (this would be the next limitation unless SE was also willing to straight up tell 360 users they couldn't use the 20GB hard drive).

[FrankReynolds]

Im more concerned with all the mechanics that they say they can't fix, like Item Storage limits and Macro Lines.

[Krashport]

Here's a thought, If FFXIV is free-to-play cause of updates/Fix's Shouldn't FFXI be also after all we are playing a beta it seems, Maybe at least a price cut. I mean come on the game is totally out dated, Also Square Enix is catering to the Casual players and Hardcore players, What about the ones that are "Fans" that has been playing FFXI for a long time. (6~9+ years)

[Arkant]

Here's a thought, If FFXIV is free-to-play cause of updates/Fix's Shouldn't FFXI be also after all we are playing a beta it seems, Maybe at least a price cut. I mean come on the game is totally out dated, Also Square Enix is catering to the Casual players and Hardcore players, What about the ones that are "Fans" that has been playing FFXI for a long time. (6~9+ years) Free would be nice....

[FrankReynolds]

UMmmm your on crack.

[Tagrineth]

Im more concerned with all the mechanics that they say they can't fix, like Item Storage limits and Macro Lines.

This is the #1 problem with continued PS2 support, and the main thing I pointed out in my last post too (though less directly...). The 80 slots per inventory limitation is a PS2 RAM limitation. The auto-translator dictionary stopping halfway through TAU is a PS2 RAM limitation. And the macro lines? Screen resolution limitation - PS2 is the only platform that cannot exceed 640x480.

[Arkant]

This is the #1 problem with continued PS2 support, and the main thing I pointed out in my last post too (though less directly...). The 80 slots per inventory limitation is a PS2 RAM limitation. The auto-translator dictionary stopping halfway through TAU is a PS2 RAM limitation. And the macro lines? Screen resolution limitation - PS2 is the only platform that cannot exceed 640x480.

Is this the right time to chant "Down with PS2!!!" ???

[illusionist]

LIke I (JP player)surprise there are so many XBOX player outside Japan,You'll be surprised there are so many PS2 only players in Japan.
PS2 with HDD is already discontinued,so it's possible Square Enix quit support for PS2.

At the same time,I wonder they can abandon oldest players or not.

It will be taken "impolite",and it affects Japanese company..It may sound weird,but for us,it's very common.

(As usual,sorry about my less skilled English)

[Arkant]

LIke I (JP player)surprise there are so many XBOX player outside Japan,You'll be surprised there are so many PS2 only players in Japan.
PS2 with HDD is already discontinued,so it's possible Square Enix quit support for PS2.

At the same time,I wonder they can abandon oldest players or not.

It will be taken "impolite",and it affects Japanese company..It may sound weird,but for us,it's very common.

(As usual,sorry about my less skilled English)

I found that very understandable, good english^^

[FrankReynolds]

LIke I (JP player)surprise there are so many XBOX player outside Japan,You'll be surprised there are so many PS2 only players in Japan.
PS2 with HDD is already discontinued,so it's possible Square Enix quit support for PS2.

At the same time,I wonder they can abandon oldest players or not.

It will be taken "impolite",and it affects Japanese company..It may sound weird,but for us,it's very common.

(As usual,sorry about my less skilled English)


I have a character that I started back during the JP only realease. The japanese customer support refuses to help me with adding it to my NA account, and the NA support says that they know what needs to be done, but only JP support can do it. They don't care how old the character is or how long I've been a customer. I've been calling japan about once a week since august billing changes. They have no problems hanging up on me when I ask them "Why would you just effectively cancel my account when I have been such a long time customer?". Don't put anything past these guys.

They also frequently delete any posts made in the JP forum by non JP customers. I know because i tried posting in there to get someone to help me with contacting JP support. I've never seen a company go so far out of their way to make it hard to give them money. I really would't be surprised if they got some sort of kick back for cutting PS2 and forcing people to buy the Vita version.

[illusionist]

I have a character that I started back during the JP only realease. The japanese customer support refuses to help me with adding it to my NA account, and the NA support says that they know what needs to be done, but only JP support can do it. They don't care how old the character is or how long I've been a customer. I've been calling japan about once a week since august billing changes. They have no problems hanging up on me when I ask them "Why would you just effectively cancel my account when I have been such a long time customer?". Don't put anything past these guys.

They also frequently delete any posts made in the JP forum by non JP customers. I know because i tried posting in there to get someone to help me with contacting JP support. I've never seen a company go so far out of their way to make it hard to give them money. I really would't be surprised if they got some sort of kick back for cutting PS2 and forcing people to buy the Vita version.

I'm so sorry what you experienced.I know some overseas(from me,and most of them are Asian)players were playing with JP version,but never heard such a thing.It's "impolite".I'm so sorry about my ignorance.
When I contact GM,always Japanese GM answers my question.Support is divided,and before JP and NA account matter,We cannot combine two account.
If I ask same thing to NA support,(I once had a NA account short time,had to delete it)Maybe they say same thing.
They(NA,JP,all other)don't combine two account.
In my heart,I feel so sad same old player had to delete old account,But it's other problem.
Square enix just don't combine 2 or more account.

And I have to send a question about JP forum.Did they delete NA player's post!??!!
I'm so shocked.I'm not sure they'll answer me,But I have to say.What they do is wrong.

[illusionist]

FrankReynolds,I have only one thing ask you,JP forum have regulation "Write in Japanese only".
And my post here is written in English.(even crappy one)

Did you write your post in Japanese?

I already made a thread in JP forum asking forum admin that "Did you really delete Non-JP player's post?"

p.s I might get into trouble^^;I should have wait your reply ,"your post was written in Japanese or not"

[SpankWustler]

Not really relevant to the topic, but might be of interest to Frank.

I've made one or two posts around those parts in, I assume, extremely awful and broken Japanese that haven't been deleted as far as I know. It sucks, but you'll probably have to mess with Google Translate, probably Rikaichan (http://www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan/) if you use Firefox, and maybe something else more serious if you really intend to bother them.

That, and if some of the Japanese-speakers here are as horrible with Japanese as some of the English-speakers here can be with English, I'm sure you'll blend right in even with the word salad that Google vomits forth. Rikaichan or something might help with making sense of the reply, which I assume is the important part for you.

Sorry if this isn't helpful, which it probably isn't.

[FrankReynolds]

I've been afraid to post using Google translate, because when i use it on the JP threads, it frequently spews out vile curse words that I know the poster didn't use. I'm afraid if I do I'll end up saying something that will get me banned entirely. I've pretty much given up on ever getting my character back. I already made another character and I suppose I will get all the quests and stuff done on him eventually. I didn't want to come in and make a sob story though. Just wanted to point out that SE has a really bad track record for customer support, and killing off a portion of their original player base seems right up their alley.

Thanks for all suggestions though. I wish SE support was half as helpful as you guys. I did actually finally get a NA support guy who told me exactly what needs to be done, I just haven't had any luck getting a JP support person who will speak to me. I really should try and get in touch with one of my JP friends from high school, and ask em to help me.

[Olor]

Expecting remodelled characters, zones, etc, is too huge a task for an MMO this late into its life.

Uh, tell that to Everquest 2 and Wow.

[Olor]

LIke I (JP player)surprise there are so many XBOX player outside Japan,You'll be surprised there are so many PS2 only players in Japan.
PS2 with HDD is already discontinued,so it's possible Square Enix quit support for PS2.

At the same time,I wonder they can abandon oldest players or not.

It will be taken "impolite",and it affects Japanese company..It may sound weird,but for us,it's very common.

(As usual,sorry about my less skilled English)

I appreciate the comment. It is good to hear the perspective. Are there lots of Japanese players who are also frustrated by the lack of completely new lands to explore?

[Creelo]

Curious?

...Are you bike-curious?

[illusionist]

They also frequently delete any posts made in the JP forum by non JP customers. I know because i tried posting in there to get someone to help me with contacting JP support. I've never seen a company go so far out of their way to make it hard to give them money. I really would't be surprised if they got some sort of kick back for cutting PS2 and forcing people to buy the Vita version.

Sorry about late reply,this is only for FrankReynolds.
Japanese Community rep Foxclon answered the question "I've heard non-JP player's post will be deleted in JP forum,is it true?"
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/17158

I use auto translate http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/ to keep objectivity.(and much better than My English)

"Since the forum is divided for every language essentially supported, even if it comes by how many words, there is a situation that OK, can shake ! and a major company and it cannot say them, but it does not result in deletion for the reason of "since it found having only written in English."
However, for example by the correspondence at the time of a thread difference, etc., I think that there may be a possibility of originally becoming slightly severe compared with the case of language compared with the contribution in the language set up by each forum (a possibility of being deleted becomes high).
Although it does not delete blindly as above-mentioned, since the contribution of those other than Japanese is not recommended to a Japanese forum, the neighborhood hopes to set to you and to need your help.
Seeing it and account (region) information and erasing contribution does not have this by any means.
Judgment of deletion considers the contents of contribution, the circumstances which result in the contribution if needed, etc., and is judged."

Forgive me I can only post this,exhausted...

[Concerned4FFxi]

First, the game probably wont get a major graphics overhaul. It IS an old game, FFVII was loved by many and it didnt see a re-release on ps3 and XI isn't either. I love this game, it's the only game I've been playing the past two years, except when the server's down I play a FPS, lol. But you have to understand the cost/investment ratio on an old game like this it's just not going to happen.

Now, about the add-ons, this IS going to happen. They are going to add new zones, check out the following post, I shortened it to make it my tag. It was orginally posted in the following thread, go check it out for yourself if you don't believe what you see.

Forum Top>English Forums>COMMUNITY>General Discussion>Why Cant Final fantasy 11 get the same treatment?.


I understand your feelings about the differences between FINAL FANTASY XI and FINAL FANTASY XIV. Please understand that these games are very different entities and just as it was stated before, the operational policies as well as the size of the development team are very different as well.

Just to clarify one misconception I have been noticing for a while now...

"PS2 limitations" is not a factor for adding new areas to the game and we will in fact be adding new areas in the future, so please do not worry about this.

[FrankReynolds]

Unfortunately he didn't say what kind of new zones. I somehow think he was referring to new floors in Nyzul Isle Investigation, Einherjar, Salvage, and Possibly limbus. :/

[Concerned4FFxi]

I know what you mean, but I do believe that means really new zones, because he has stated that ps2 limitations are not a factor, so to me this says what we all are saying, give us brand spanking new areas. I think in about two years they will release the last add-on for this game.

The DEV know we want new zones, new areas, for them to say just relax we got you, which is basically what he's saying from the DEV, then that to me means they are going to because they know that's what the players are speaking of when we talk about new zones.

[Xellith]

It doesn't matter what you believe was said. It only matters what is actually said and can be shown with evidence. What Camate said is open to broad interpretation.

[Kaizersan]

One thing I would like to point out is if someone had enough time and skill they could clean up the textures in this game on there own through dats it would take a long time but it could be done to a certain extent.

[Alhanelem]

removing the PS2 would open up a lot of doors, but even without removing the PS2, there is a lot of things they could do to make the game nicer for PC and xbox users, if they were to invest the time in it.

(Supposedly, whatever extra time they have is going into a PS Vita port...)

[Concerned4FFxi]

(Supposedly, whatever extra time they have is going into a PS Vita port...)

This would be 100x more important than cleaning texturtes, I know the texturing would be fantastic, but if they are serious about opening up broader access with another port of the game than please, SE, by all means divert your manpower and get more people playing. If it is successful, that means 11 will live on longer and with a wider base of supporters, perhaps in the end we can get that texturing looked at.