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svengalis
09-17-2011, 01:51 PM
It is really hard to get a static for Nyzul if you are like me and work the 2nd shift especially for practically dead content. It would be nice if we got credit for completing Nyzul floors that we have done and not in the order that we have to do them.

Would really love to join some of the random Nyzul shouts but I don't cause I know it won't count towards the floors that I will have to complete from 1-100 in that order.

katz
09-17-2011, 02:30 PM
Some people are really lazy and dont set up their own static group for Nyzul. It took a group of 3 people 3 weeks to get to floor 100. Didnt find anything a problem. Nyzul is fine as it is.

Rearden
09-17-2011, 03:13 PM
Took me 8 tags to get 100 with 4 people

svengalis
09-17-2011, 03:53 PM
Took me 8 tags to get 100 with 4 people

Nice! but here lies the problem Me =/= You. Already explained my situation in the OG post.

Shiyo
09-17-2011, 03:54 PM
Nice! but here lies the problem Me =/= YOU.
So you're admitting you're bad?

svengalis
09-17-2011, 04:00 PM
So you're admitting you're bad?

:confused:

Greatguardian
09-17-2011, 04:03 PM
He said he works a really crappy shift. Which is fair enough. JP prime is notoriously unfriendly towards English speaking players, and many servers don't even have an EU prime.

Honest advice? I'd try looking for other night owl NA players like yourself and static'ing up with them if possible. Nyzul is extremely easy these days, so you really don't even need to be picky.

Rearden
09-17-2011, 08:32 PM
ah yeah. you could duo 5-10 floors a night if you wanted to though, plenty of people need F100

katz
09-17-2011, 08:38 PM
So basically you are saying change nyzul because you cant find 2 or more players, when the ave number of players are 2-3k of people on the server who would help you.

Juri_Licious
09-17-2011, 08:46 PM
So you're admitting you're bad?

So you're admitting you don't read?

Aver
09-17-2011, 11:21 PM
So basically you are saying change nyzul because you cant find 2 or more players, when the ave number of players are 2-3k of people on the server who would help you.


It is really hard to get a static for Nyzul if you are like me and work the 2nd shift especially for practically dead content.

Do you know what the bolded part is? That's when most people are SLEEPING. Now go to the corner and think about what you've done wrong.

Kaisha
09-17-2011, 11:23 PM
Is the whole point of this thread mainly about obtaining your mythic WS?

What they could do instead is just not make the WS points requirement for the Unlocking a Myth quests ridiculously huge for anything but access to floor 95+.

2720 WS points needed if you only have floor 50 access. Really? Did anyone on the dev team think that one through? Floor 0 requires 16000 of 'em too.

Aver
09-18-2011, 12:03 AM
Is the whole point of this thread mainly about obtaining your mythic WS?

What they could do instead is just not make the WS points requirement for the Unlocking a Myth quests ridiculously huge for anything but access to floor 95+.

2720 WS points needed if you only have floor 50 access. Really? Did anyone on the dev team think that one through? Floor 0 requires 16000 of 'em too.

Ogawd, I unlocked Death Blossom while I was on FL76.

*twitch*

svengalis
09-18-2011, 04:15 AM
Is the whole point of this thread mainly about obtaining your mythic WS?

What they could do instead is just not make the WS points requirement for the Unlocking a Myth quests ridiculously huge for anything but access to floor 95+.

2720 WS points needed if you only have floor 50 access. Really? Did anyone on the dev team think that one through? Floor 0 requires 16000 of 'em too.

Really just wanted the monk weapon and weaponskill but I am only on floor 11 I think its kind of ridiculous the requirements for the Ws points needed from floor 10. Was just thinking it would be a lot easier to complete floors if I got credit from random shouts no matter the order I did them.

Yugl
09-18-2011, 04:25 AM
Move to Siren. That's all I can suggest.

Afania
09-18-2011, 07:43 PM
I feel your pain, it's really hard to find English speaking players to get shit done if you live in different timezone/have different work schedule etc, but it's not impossible to do.

You can try to find ppl that's living in Asia, or have same work schedule as you. You can try to /shout, to see if you can get anyone that plays the same time as you do, and slowly build your static pt for stuff everyone want to do(not just Nyzul, but everything else) If you happened to know any English speaking players, ask them if they want to make a static to help each other and complete each other's goals. So even if they're not on the same floor as you do, they may still be willing to help you climb.

Or you can just do your Nyzul climb on weekends. Which is usually a good time for all timezone ppl.

katz
09-18-2011, 08:30 PM
Do you know what the bolded part is? That's when most people are SLEEPING. Now go to the corner and think about what you've done wrong.

Ah I see, so what you see as you in your sleeping shift, means the rest of the world is also sleeping. Hate to tell you but we dont sleep at the same time as you are. Some parts of the world are awake and will even help if you ask.
Even the english speaking people are awake, if you try a little harder to speak with non English speaking countries, they too will help. Its the way you treat people that prohibits people helping.

Zatias
09-18-2011, 08:36 PM
Ah I see, so what you see as you in your sleeping shift, means the rest of the world is also sleeping. Hate to tell you but we dont sleep at the same time as you are. Some parts of the world are awake and will even help if you ask.
Even the english speaking people are awake, if you try a little harder to speak with non English speaking countries, they too will help. Its the way you treat people that prohibits people helping.
You're saying this like he's a total asshole or something. A lot of people don't like to help with Nyzul, even moreso if you can't communicate during lamp floors. I sure as hell would get confused if I went with Japanese people.

Alhanelem
09-19-2011, 02:00 AM
It is really hard to get a static for Nyzul if you are like me and work the 2nd shift especially for practically dead content. It would be nice if we got credit for completing Nyzul floors that we have done and not in the order that we have to do them.

Would really love to join some of the random Nyzul shouts but I don't cause I know it won't count towards the floors that I will have to complete from 1-100 in that order.I don't think a person should be able to get credit for having cleared all of nyzul just because they know one other person who has. I think that's a bit too much of an easy button.

Mirabelle
09-19-2011, 03:30 AM
I think you should just have to clear 100 floors. 20 runs of 96-100 should count. Still would take you as long but would be far easier to find people to do boss floor runs.

Creelo
09-19-2011, 03:33 AM
Really what SE should do to help give a quick revive to old content in ToA is just add more rewards you can receive with the "currency" earned in that event. For Nyzul Isle, they could easily just add a NPC where you can exchange your Tokens in for R/Ex items. As long as the R/Ex items would have some use, something as simple as this would breathe a lot of life into Nyzul Isle.

The same goes for Einherjar too. Just add more rewards you can get with Ampoules! :/

Salvage I'm not as sure about... But Idk why SE just hasn't done something as simple as add more rewards like I mentioned above. x.x

Ritsuka
09-19-2011, 01:22 PM
So basically you are saying change nyzul because you cant find 2 or more players, when the ave number of players are 2-3k of people on the server who would help you.

to bad ppl are lazy and dont wonna help with anything old anymore.

Solonuke
09-19-2011, 06:20 PM
Nyzul took me many years to get from floor 1-100, it wasn't before they increased the level cap to 90 where I could do it with 3 people that I finally climbed to 100. The first time I climbed to floor 20 but quit since real life demanded more time, when things settled down I just couldn't find a group of 6 people to do this event. Just forget about making a pickup group unless it's the floors with bosses since the other floors don't give any relevant reward for mostly hard work. A static is static except real life isn't so there will always be times when at least one can't make it so the entire run is cancelled. The game doesn't help you out whatsoever when it comes to finding people that needs x floor.

Lamps will still screw you over if you go with less than 5 people as the amount of lamps that spawns is always 3-5 regardless of how many people are in your group.

noodles355
09-19-2011, 06:33 PM
If Nyzul Isle assault points could be used for Remnants Permits, I'd do much more nyzul.

svengalis
09-20-2011, 03:32 AM
I don't think a person should be able to get credit for having cleared all of nyzul just because they know one other person who has. I think that's a bit too much of an easy button.

I think you misunderstand what I said. I just want credit for floors I have completed. Lets say I am on floor 11. But I see a shout for floors 26+ and I join them. I just want to get credit for completing those floors, but I can't get credit because I have yet to get to those floors first. See the problem now?

svengalis
09-20-2011, 03:33 AM
I think you should just have to clear 100 floors. 20 runs of 96-100 should count. Still would take you as long but would be far easier to find people to do boss floor runs.

That would work to. I just did floors 1-11 then floor 100. I saw no difference in the floors really.

Alhanelem
09-20-2011, 03:42 AM
I think you misunderstand what I said. I just want credit for floors I have completed. Lets say I am on floor 11. But I see a shout for floors 26+ and I join them. I just want to get credit for completing those floors, but I can't get credit because I have yet to get to those floors first. See the problem now?
The game doesn't track every floor you've completed, only the highest floor. Also, since all floors other than boss floors are totally random, there isn't much significance to any specific floors being completed. All or none.

I suppose you could rework the system so that WS weapons factor the total floors completed instead of using the highest floor, but that might not be a simple change. I don't agree with repeating the same floors counting, because at a very minimum you should have to face each different boss floor.

MojoJojo
09-20-2011, 04:17 AM
It would be cool if it recorded your floors, and didnt matter what order. I'm actually on floor 21, but i used to do Nyzuls like crazy years ago, so i'd bet money i've done EACH floor....just in a stupid order. If i actually paid attention to my disc, and knew about the ws's (i always figured only the mythic weapon unlocked ws) i might have pushed for my climb as well as my friends. I'm not really griping for change because i was a dumbass and missed a run and didn't catch up, but it would make sense to record your total progress....

Mirage
09-20-2011, 06:19 AM
I too wish you were able to get progress even if you did them out of order.

Alhanelem
09-20-2011, 06:39 AM
I too wish you were able to get progress even if you did them out of order.
that i would be fine with, as long as you still needed to clear each floor.